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:::* I only noticed after I'd written above that there was actually a gap in the middle of the transcript. (I'd been skipping around some.) I dare say you're inhuman to have transcribed even this much. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 05:28, 12 November 2009 (CET)
:::* I only noticed after I'd written above that there was actually a gap in the middle of the transcript. (I'd been skipping around some.) I dare say you're inhuman to have transcribed even this much. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 05:28, 12 November 2009 (CET)
::::* Whew. It's done. All y'all feel free to correct and link whatever, I'm sure I missed more than a couple typos. And if you can explain what the hell that "WARRIORS" shit means I'd love to know. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 09:05, 12 November 2009 (CET)
::::* Whew. It's done. All y'all feel free to correct and link whatever, I'm sure I missed more than a couple typos. And if you can explain what the hell that "WARRIORS" shit means I'd love to know. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 09:05, 12 November 2009 (CET)
:::::* Well done with the transcription. I cleared up some small spelling errors. Nothing big. --[[User:Hayate666|Hayate666]] 12:30, 12 November 2009 (CET)
I just want it to be known that I don't think I've ''ever'' hated Chris as much as I do now. [[User:Ayvuir|Ayvuir]] 04:08, 13 November 2009 (CET)


==Chris talks to Kacey and Liquid==
==Chris talks to Kacey and Liquid==
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&lt;hexbawx&gt;...Chris as Caboose and the Dad as Sarge, from Red vs. Blue? [http://roostertooths.com/transcripts.php?show=rvb&season=3&ep=39 The similarities are striking].&lt;/hexbawx&gt; --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 11:25, 12 November 2009 (CET)
&lt;hexbawx&gt;...Chris as Caboose and the Dad as Sarge, from Red vs. Blue? [http://roostertooths.com/transcripts.php?show=rvb&season=3&ep=39 The similarities are striking].&lt;/hexbawx&gt; --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 11:25, 12 November 2009 (CET)
:*Actually, I'd think of 'em more as Chris as GRIF or perhaps and unholy fusion of Grif and Caboose.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 18:54, 12 November 2009 (CET)
:*The difference being that Caboose is lovably dumb and funny, and Grif is a hilarious kissass, and Chris is Chris.  Chris lacks little things like "intentional hilarity" and "witty dialog" to make the comparison work better. [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 21:39, 12 November 2009 (CET)
:*I think Kasey's dad sounded like the new Batman from ''Batman: The Brave and The Bold'' to me. Come to think of it, he kinda sounded like Diedrich Bader in general. --[[User:UJ1985|UJ1985]] 07:30, 14 November 2009 (CET)
:* Am I right in thinking that Kacey's "Dad" and Liquid Chris are one and the same? [[User:Glorious Tentacularity|Glorious Tentacularity]] 15:45, 21 November 2009 (CET)
== Step 2 - wikify==
Great job on the transcription, now it needs to be wikified with links to appropriate articles. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:33, 12 November 2009 (CET)
:What for? Because of this blue text the links are practically invisible. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 20:53, 12 November 2009 (CET)
:*Should still have wiki links. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 14 November 2009 (CET)
*Seriously, this needs to be wikified. Fuck, I might end up doing this myself. But someone, please beat me to it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:00, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
== Fun Fact ==
The Chandlers have a riding lawnmower in their yard. If it actually works, mowing the lawn would be as easy as sitting on your ass and enjoying a cold drink. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 09:39, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*What's the source of that? If you can find it, then it'd be worth to make a note (maybe like a footnote) and point out that Chris is so lazy that sitting on his ass is a chore for him. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:18, 21 November 2009 (CET)
*You can see it in [[CWC Fighter]], its in the background and you can kinda see it next to [[son-chu|chris's car]] while Chris fails at imitating martial arts.[[User:Flyingdingo0827|Flyingdingo0827]] 05:23, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
* He walks past it in the yard tour too, I think. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 06:53, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
==Kacey's "father"==
Shouldn't we mention that Kacey's "father" is just another troll? Otherwise, if someone comes to this page and doesn't read the whole transcript or listen to the phone call, they'll probably think that Chris actually spoke with Kacey's dad. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 20:00, 21 November 2009 (CET)
*Why the fuck would someone think that 1) this guy is actually a 50 year old man who is actually Kacey's dad and that 2) someone's dad would actually bother talking to Chris for so long? Of course he's a troll, as is Kacey and 99% of the people Chris interacts with. What difference would it make? For canon purposes, Kacey's father talked to Chris and this is the call between them.
:The thing is, trolling Chris can be a bit theatrical at times. People establish personas, storylines, motives, etc. behind trolling Chris and people love it and people can't believe Chris actually falls for it (Chris once remarked how his life was a soap opera and I recall being amazed but not surprised given that he's delusional enough to believe that it's perfectly reasonable to be in a situation where he was in a love triangle with him, a girl from 5000 miles away, and a rapist meanwhile trying to get his game idea published with Nintendo). If we get too meta and go with the total truth, you'd just have an entire wiki about basement dwellers, weaboos, and [[User:CrassCrab|Internet sociopaths]] who get off to trolling a manchild. Of course trolls are trolling Chris but that's not canon. Not just targeting you Llort, but after your comment and seeing some "commentary" on the effectiveness of Jimmy Hill in the Jimmy Hill article, I felt this needed to be said. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:14, 21 November 2009 (CET)
*Is the reason for not revealing that it's a troll to prevent Chris from finding out if he ever discovers this page? --[[User:Doomknight|Doomknight]] 09:35, 30 November 2009 (CET)
*Kacey's dad's performance is good up to about the point he starts talking about being in Desert Storm onward. Carrying his dead/dying buddy all the way back to base? Seems fishy but okay. Digging his mother out of the 9/11 rubble? Uh, nah, don't think so. Not breaking a sweat from running ten miles? Come on, man.
He just starts stretching it thinner and thinner just to keep Chris talking. Fortunately, his complete and utter lack of a believable performance if anything increases the impact of the call. Not once does Chris make any call-out of the increasingly obvious bullshit, which either suggests he's genuinely naive (lol) towards literally ANYthing regarding the real world, or he's so desperate for a Sweetheart to Build from the Ground Up that's he's willing to eat up a solid 2:20 of demeaning insulting garbage just for a chance to hook up with a girl he met a single time who he's been told several times is already engaged.
:*The last post was written by [[User:CorbeauNoir]].  Please don't forget to sign your posts!!! --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 16:24, 13 December 2009 (CET)
:*The biggest giveaway that it was a troll was that the Dad already knew about Chris thinking standing up is exercise when Chris made no mention of it. --[[User:AntonImaus|AntonImaus]] 19:37, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:*What gave him away for me was when he said "Are you threatening an Ex-Marine?". No Devil Dog would ever call himself an "Ex-Marine". Once a Marine, Always a Marine. The "Ex" suffix is only attached for those who've received a dishonorable discharge. --[[User:Jerkop421|Jerkop421]] 03:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
<nowiki>I was able to work out from simply looking at the year he was born, and then calculating his current age, that it's incredibly unlikely that he was even slightly involved in the Gulf War, and his claims about his fitness are dubious, at best, so yeah, anyone that even glances at the top of the article could probably deduce that Matt isn't really who he's made out to be. Hell, even a lazy, autistic manchild could do it. ~TheManInBeige</nowiki>
==An Idea That Might Be Funny==
Based on the texture of Kacey's dad's voice (or the troll portraying him, but let's keep up decorum) I think it might be funny if we got a picture of Brock Samson from ''The Venture Brothers'' and put that on the article with the caption "Artist's interpretation of Mr. Devoria."  Seriously, he sounds like Patrick Warburton. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 2:27, 16 December 2009 (CEST)
*[[CWCki:DOITFAGGOT|DO IT, FAGGOT]]--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:39, 17 December 2009 (CET)
Done and done. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 12:49, 20 December 2009 (CEST)
== I reformatted the shit out of this. ==
I'll change it back if everybody hates it, but I won't apologize.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
*It's awful...AWFULLY GOOD. Seriously, more transcripts should be like this. Subheadings though, I have an issue with in general for reasons I won't go into now but nonetheless, this is a very good reformatted version. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
==Somehow this guy pisses me off more than BlueSpike==
Even knowing the "father" is a troll doesn't keep me from wanting to kick him in the balls. I guess he's just a little too close to the way arrogant old people with a bit of authority are in real life. [[User:Niggoducks|Niggoducks]] 05:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:* I think thats the genius of all this. Throughout his entire life, Chris has been lacking a firm authority figure to put him in his place (his parents pampered him, his teachers put him on the Honor Roll, etc.). The only closest thing to an authority figure in his life has been, appropriately, a group of mall security guards. However, this call definitely is one of the most interesting pieces of content out of all the material on this website. It proposes the concept of Chris actually being talked down to by someone he is required to respect (when people on the internet do it to him, he can just visibly ignore them, but when Kacey's Dad does it he is forced to act like he cares) and all of the hilarity that would follow. Needless to say, if Chris had actually grown up in the household of an arrogant ex-military republican, I would think that he may have actually become a much more mature and independent person than he currently is. --[[User:LiquidChrisForever|LiquidChrisForever]] 14:28, 15 August 2010 (PDT) <br />
::*Edit: After writing this, it dawned upon me that Chris' father actually is an arrogant ex-military republican, and yet somehow Bob has still bought into the idea that Chris is a poor soul tormented by the entire world for the sole reason of him being a very successful and creative superstar due to Sonichu. I honestly don't know what to think now. --[[User:LiquidChrisForever|LiquidChrisForever]] 17:18, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::: Old people with authority exert their authority authentically. I think it's worth noting that, because "Kacey's Father" had never actually had military experience, his attempt at feigning he did was far from the way an actual veteran would normally act. Off-topic here from what would be worth adding to the article: I think war heroes very much deserve to be as "arrogant" as they wish. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 20:46, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
==Fitness==
Not to defend Chris, but there is a serious lack of understanding about health in this article.  A pulse of 84 beats per minute is perfectly healthy, actually surprisingly healthy for someone with the lifestyle of Chris.  The healthy range for adults is 60-100 BPM, and 40-60 is usually associated with athletes.  Then we come to the 5 miles is a 2 hour jog?  Try again, that's 2.5 miles per hour, a walking pace at best.  I'm hardly the pinnacle of fitness, but even I can manage 6 miles per hour.  Kind of shows the poor health of the troll posing as Matt, no? --[[User:anonreb|anonreb]] 16:33, 6 December 2015 (EST)
== The Whispering In Between Talking ==
Okay, who is Matthew whispering to? He keeps repeating some of the stuff he says as whispers. Is he talking to himself, or is this an IRC or something? --[[User:Newwaveknight|Newwaveknight]] ([[User talk:Newwaveknight|talk]]) 03:29, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 22:30, 28 February 2016

Transcription

Easiest way to do it

Sign up for 5 minute intervals.

GO.

I will try and bash out the second ten minutes at least right now. Too caffeined to sleep. Dkaien 09:48, 11 November 2009 (CET)

  • Fuck it. 20-30 minutes it is as well. Dkaien 10:22, 11 November 2009 (CET)
  • Just in case anyone was looking for a second opinion, I can confirm that yes, he did indeed say "I don't like to leave an unfinished project finished." Also the stammering here is of an unprecedented magnitude. I give up until I can return to this shit while intoxicated. (Also for enterprising transcribers, I recommend Express Scribe, lets you set hotkeys for stop/start/rewind, pretty handy.) Dkaien 10:57, 11 November 2009 (CET)

Good article, bad name. Seriously, call it "Kacey's Parent Call" or something like that. This article should be about the call, not the dad. --Champthom 11:59, 11 November 2009 (CET)

  • Or we could just copy the transcript into its own article and use this page to write about Matt once the transcript gives folks some raw material to work with. Either way. (Also, apropos of nothing, I'm gonna hear "IT WAS APPLEBEE'S" over and over in my dreams once I finally get to sleep.) Dkaien 12:05, 11 November 2009 (CET)
  • If the transcript for this audio is done, go ahead and remove both the incomplete and transcription tags. And thanks for the tip about Express Scribe, by the way. Llort 05:13, 12 November 2009 (CET)
  • Oh, no, it's not done. I just started working backwards from the end a bit last night because somebody else was uploading stuff from the beginning at the time and I didn't want to repeat their effort. There's about 40 minutes left in the middle still, between the 50- and 90-minute marks. But that shouldn't be hard to knock off fairly soon. Dkaien 05:23, 12 November 2009 (CET)
  • I only noticed after I'd written above that there was actually a gap in the middle of the transcript. (I'd been skipping around some.) I dare say you're inhuman to have transcribed even this much. Llort 05:28, 12 November 2009 (CET)
  • Whew. It's done. All y'all feel free to correct and link whatever, I'm sure I missed more than a couple typos. And if you can explain what the hell that "WARRIORS" shit means I'd love to know. Dkaien 09:05, 12 November 2009 (CET)
  • Well done with the transcription. I cleared up some small spelling errors. Nothing big. --Hayate666 12:30, 12 November 2009 (CET)

I just want it to be known that I don't think I've ever hated Chris as much as I do now. Ayvuir 04:08, 13 November 2009 (CET)

Chris talks to Kacey and Liquid

Bryan Bash just dropped this on /cwc/. It's pretty insane.

http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/490.html --Beat 19:48, 11 November 2009 (CET)

  • If it's the call I think it is, make a new page for that. That's a new classic. --Champthom 22:48, 11 November 2009 (CET)

Category for phone calls?

I was just thinking, should there be a category for phone calls such as this, Kacey and Liquid Call and Kacey Phone Call? Or is there not enough of them for one to be necessary? --Lime Madotsuki.png 23:06, 11 November 2009 (CET)

  • Sure, why not? They'll be more phone calls in the future, I tell you what. Well, maybe not from Kacey but other trolls. --Champthom 23:10, 11 November 2009 (CET)

Who here thought of...

<hexbawx>...Chris as Caboose and the Dad as Sarge, from Red vs. Blue? The similarities are striking.</hexbawx> --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 11:25, 12 November 2009 (CET)

  • Actually, I'd think of 'em more as Chris as GRIF or perhaps and unholy fusion of Grif and Caboose.--Blazer 18:54, 12 November 2009 (CET)
  • The difference being that Caboose is lovably dumb and funny, and Grif is a hilarious kissass, and Chris is Chris. Chris lacks little things like "intentional hilarity" and "witty dialog" to make the comparison work better. Ensign disposable 21:39, 12 November 2009 (CET)
  • I think Kasey's dad sounded like the new Batman from Batman: The Brave and The Bold to me. Come to think of it, he kinda sounded like Diedrich Bader in general. --UJ1985 07:30, 14 November 2009 (CET)
  • Am I right in thinking that Kacey's "Dad" and Liquid Chris are one and the same? Glorious Tentacularity 15:45, 21 November 2009 (CET)

Step 2 - wikify

Great job on the transcription, now it needs to be wikified with links to appropriate articles. --Champthom 18:33, 12 November 2009 (CET)

What for? Because of this blue text the links are practically invisible. --Sonijew 20:53, 12 November 2009 (CET)
  • Should still have wiki links. --Champthom 07:18, 14 November 2009 (CET)
  • Seriously, this needs to be wikified. Fuck, I might end up doing this myself. But someone, please beat me to it. --Champthom 06:00, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Fun Fact

The Chandlers have a riding lawnmower in their yard. If it actually works, mowing the lawn would be as easy as sitting on your ass and enjoying a cold drink. --Anaconda 09:39, 20 November 2009 (CET)

  • What's the source of that? If you can find it, then it'd be worth to make a note (maybe like a footnote) and point out that Chris is so lazy that sitting on his ass is a chore for him. --Champthom 20:18, 21 November 2009 (CET)
  • You can see it in CWC Fighter, its in the background and you can kinda see it next to chris's car while Chris fails at imitating martial arts.Flyingdingo0827 05:23, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
  • He walks past it in the yard tour too, I think. --Anaconda 06:53, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Kacey's "father"

Shouldn't we mention that Kacey's "father" is just another troll? Otherwise, if someone comes to this page and doesn't read the whole transcript or listen to the phone call, they'll probably think that Chris actually spoke with Kacey's dad. Llort 20:00, 21 November 2009 (CET)

  • Why the fuck would someone think that 1) this guy is actually a 50 year old man who is actually Kacey's dad and that 2) someone's dad would actually bother talking to Chris for so long? Of course he's a troll, as is Kacey and 99% of the people Chris interacts with. What difference would it make? For canon purposes, Kacey's father talked to Chris and this is the call between them.
The thing is, trolling Chris can be a bit theatrical at times. People establish personas, storylines, motives, etc. behind trolling Chris and people love it and people can't believe Chris actually falls for it (Chris once remarked how his life was a soap opera and I recall being amazed but not surprised given that he's delusional enough to believe that it's perfectly reasonable to be in a situation where he was in a love triangle with him, a girl from 5000 miles away, and a rapist meanwhile trying to get his game idea published with Nintendo). If we get too meta and go with the total truth, you'd just have an entire wiki about basement dwellers, weaboos, and Internet sociopaths who get off to trolling a manchild. Of course trolls are trolling Chris but that's not canon. Not just targeting you Llort, but after your comment and seeing some "commentary" on the effectiveness of Jimmy Hill in the Jimmy Hill article, I felt this needed to be said. --Champthom 20:14, 21 November 2009 (CET)
  • Is the reason for not revealing that it's a troll to prevent Chris from finding out if he ever discovers this page? --Doomknight 09:35, 30 November 2009 (CET)
  • Kacey's dad's performance is good up to about the point he starts talking about being in Desert Storm onward. Carrying his dead/dying buddy all the way back to base? Seems fishy but okay. Digging his mother out of the 9/11 rubble? Uh, nah, don't think so. Not breaking a sweat from running ten miles? Come on, man.

He just starts stretching it thinner and thinner just to keep Chris talking. Fortunately, his complete and utter lack of a believable performance if anything increases the impact of the call. Not once does Chris make any call-out of the increasingly obvious bullshit, which either suggests he's genuinely naive (lol) towards literally ANYthing regarding the real world, or he's so desperate for a Sweetheart to Build from the Ground Up that's he's willing to eat up a solid 2:20 of demeaning insulting garbage just for a chance to hook up with a girl he met a single time who he's been told several times is already engaged.

  • The last post was written by User:CorbeauNoir. Please don't forget to sign your posts!!! --Fuckingstupid 16:24, 13 December 2009 (CET)
  • The biggest giveaway that it was a troll was that the Dad already knew about Chris thinking standing up is exercise when Chris made no mention of it. --AntonImaus 19:37, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
  • What gave him away for me was when he said "Are you threatening an Ex-Marine?". No Devil Dog would ever call himself an "Ex-Marine". Once a Marine, Always a Marine. The "Ex" suffix is only attached for those who've received a dishonorable discharge. --Jerkop421 03:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I was able to work out from simply looking at the year he was born, and then calculating his current age, that it's incredibly unlikely that he was even slightly involved in the Gulf War, and his claims about his fitness are dubious, at best, so yeah, anyone that even glances at the top of the article could probably deduce that Matt isn't really who he's made out to be. Hell, even a lazy, autistic manchild could do it. ~TheManInBeige

An Idea That Might Be Funny

Based on the texture of Kacey's dad's voice (or the troll portraying him, but let's keep up decorum) I think it might be funny if we got a picture of Brock Samson from The Venture Brothers and put that on the article with the caption "Artist's interpretation of Mr. Devoria." Seriously, he sounds like Patrick Warburton. --Manwithoutabody 2:27, 16 December 2009 (CEST)

Done and done. --Manwithoutabody 12:49, 20 December 2009 (CEST)

I reformatted the shit out of this.

I'll change it back if everybody hates it, but I won't apologize.--Beat 05:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

  • It's awful...AWFULLY GOOD. Seriously, more transcripts should be like this. Subheadings though, I have an issue with in general for reasons I won't go into now but nonetheless, this is a very good reformatted version. --Champthom 06:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Somehow this guy pisses me off more than BlueSpike

Even knowing the "father" is a troll doesn't keep me from wanting to kick him in the balls. I guess he's just a little too close to the way arrogant old people with a bit of authority are in real life. Niggoducks 05:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

  • I think thats the genius of all this. Throughout his entire life, Chris has been lacking a firm authority figure to put him in his place (his parents pampered him, his teachers put him on the Honor Roll, etc.). The only closest thing to an authority figure in his life has been, appropriately, a group of mall security guards. However, this call definitely is one of the most interesting pieces of content out of all the material on this website. It proposes the concept of Chris actually being talked down to by someone he is required to respect (when people on the internet do it to him, he can just visibly ignore them, but when Kacey's Dad does it he is forced to act like he cares) and all of the hilarity that would follow. Needless to say, if Chris had actually grown up in the household of an arrogant ex-military republican, I would think that he may have actually become a much more mature and independent person than he currently is. --LiquidChrisForever 14:28, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Edit: After writing this, it dawned upon me that Chris' father actually is an arrogant ex-military republican, and yet somehow Bob has still bought into the idea that Chris is a poor soul tormented by the entire world for the sole reason of him being a very successful and creative superstar due to Sonichu. I honestly don't know what to think now. --LiquidChrisForever 17:18, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
Old people with authority exert their authority authentically. I think it's worth noting that, because "Kacey's Father" had never actually had military experience, his attempt at feigning he did was far from the way an actual veteran would normally act. Off-topic here from what would be worth adding to the article: I think war heroes very much deserve to be as "arrogant" as they wish. --DawnDusk 20:46, 18 August 2011 (PDT)

Fitness

Not to defend Chris, but there is a serious lack of understanding about health in this article. A pulse of 84 beats per minute is perfectly healthy, actually surprisingly healthy for someone with the lifestyle of Chris. The healthy range for adults is 60-100 BPM, and 40-60 is usually associated with athletes. Then we come to the 5 miles is a 2 hour jog? Try again, that's 2.5 miles per hour, a walking pace at best. I'm hardly the pinnacle of fitness, but even I can manage 6 miles per hour. Kind of shows the poor health of the troll posing as Matt, no? --anonreb 16:33, 6 December 2015 (EST)

The Whispering In Between Talking

Okay, who is Matthew whispering to? He keeps repeating some of the stuff he says as whispers. Is he talking to himself, or is this an IRC or something? --Newwaveknight (talk) 03:29, 29 February 2016 (UTC)