Template talk:Da update

Three videos from the 12th

Why are they not here? We have Chris singing, Chris out in public with actual sunlight, and making a dumb as fuck comment, that is what an update is, my friends. You may be saying "But Champthom, why haven't you?" and I say to you "NO U!" Seriously, stuff should go on this template first before it ends up on the CWChronology. Srsly. --Champthom 03:30, 15 July 2009 (CEST)

Gardening

Did a little gardening by removing a few of the posts from this template. It was taking up quite a bit of room on the main page.

Remember to add to both Da Update and the corresponding month and vice versa, sometimes this doesn't happen. Granola 02:11, 16 August 2009 (CEST)

Da update versus CWCipediaTracker

People, please, given the status of the CWCipedia, all CWCipedia related updates belong in the CWCipedia Tracker whereas things like new videos, leaked material, etc. belong here in Da update.

Seriously, I am disappoint. --Champthom 02:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

• I think a lot of that is my fault. I didn't understand the difference; I assumed they overlapped. Sorry about that. - Liquid! 15:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

A book?

Chris is seriously writing a book? That can't be true. Also, he mentions that one of his "gal friends" is helping him write it. This has got to be one of Chris's lies. --BreadGod 02:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

• Maybe he's getting over Sonichu even if he promised a super-duper issue for the tenth anniversary of the Fail-Comic. As far as the "Lady-Friend" goes, we saw her in a previous video. (Hint; she's inflatable). Griffintown 02:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

I feel sorry for Kimmi. She is always dragged into Chris's bullshit and she is unable to object to it. --BreadGod 02:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

• Guys, CWCki is not a forum. Stuff like this doesn't belong here. There's other places to discuss this like this Krapple thread or something like that. --Champthom 03:20, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

It should be obvious but

Only Chris related updates belong here.

Shit like Sonichu: The Animated Series can go on the Fan:Index.

Srsly, don't pull this shit again or else someone is getting banned. --Champthom 21:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Important something which I will delete in a minute

Damnit, how do I get to the cwcipedia tracker? Mailbag 60 is up. Thelieisacake 23:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

• I got it covered. In future, when you edit the main page, it'll give a link to the templates used on the main page at the bottom. --Edward 00:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Suggested Update

Someone added Sydney getting busted to the months events, so did we want to add it here?

Suggestion: In a rare win for Chris, the manchild identifies and shoots down a troll based off information garnered from the troll forums.

--Ronichu 23:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I assume that you told nobody of your plan to pose as a girl with the intent of getting him to answer the Mailbag again. It wasn't any moment of clarity, he just had you mixed up with Jackie.--MoarLurk 00:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

• I am firmly 'No Comment'ing anything that relates to how, precisely, Sydney's cover was blown. Sorry mate. If you are desperate to know, you should know where to go to ask. PS <3 your rambles, FYI. --Ronichu 01:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

17 June

Chris just returned to Twitter. --BreadGod 01:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Is there a reason you're putting this on the talk page instead of the actual template? --T K 19 01:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Template's locked. Now for some reason it's open again. --BreadGod 01:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Template locked

For the mall waiting video I think we should take the 'money' part out to avoid suspicion and revert it to 'unknown reason'. - Liquid! 17:20, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

• Why? I thought CWCki was against censorship. Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs 17:27, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
  • You need to unlock the template... Clyde_and_Tito_PS3_E-mails needs to be added...
  • If we show that we know what Chris was waiting for, it could harm a very promising saga. I thought this was one of the things that we would keep quiet for now until it's safe to let Chris know that we be trollin'. - Liquid! 23:42, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
    • Ohh... I see. I GUESS that makes sense, but the article is definitely on the CWCki and linked from quite a few pages. He might just search for it and find it anyway... but knowing Chris, that's not too likely. --Noel Ari Paige 05:26, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

I found something.

As of now on the Rule 34 Pahael site they have the picture of sailor moon Chris-chan as the featured image. Is this notable? Anyone care? Written by this person. 15:30, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

It's already been uploaded and added to the Sailor Moon article. --Xanabit 15:36, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

Is there a reason for a lack of new update notices?

--Sonijew is back 10:43, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

I had a stab at it. With so many leaked documents recently, it's easy to forget about da update =) --Anonymax 12:06, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

Notability and Da update

What makes something worthy of being included in Da update? If something's worth mentioning on the monthly chronology, wouldn't it also warrant a mention on Da update? I'm thinking specifically of the entry "21 July: Chris reveals his identity in a Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia post." from here.

'Where no shit is too minor.'

Why was the phone message update deleted? It was quite relevant if you think about it, as he sounded legitimately unwell. It is worth at least some discussion. --I am tomgirlmanbearpig 06:48, 9 December 2011 (PST)

One word; Liability. I believe there's legal consequences in linking this material here. Now that the Virginian justice system is dealing with Chris, better not putting a lightning rod on top of this site. If Chris is dumb enough to not try to close the CWCki, Rocky is another matter. Download the audio and stash it, just don't post it here. Griffintown 07:53, 9 December 2011 (PST)

I think he means the answering machine thing. The reason that's not up here is just because it's not "big" enough. Quite a few people only check the CWCki to look at the update. What goes in the update should be big enough to pique their interest. "Chris says he's sick" isn't good enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 07:58, 9 December 2011 (PST)

What the heck did Griffintown thing he meant? Feel free to say you can't say... but what the heck was up here that would have been considered a 'liability'? --4Macie 09:42, 9 December 2011 (PST)

There's an audio file out there with Rocky talking about Chris. It's on the /cwc/ and I thought we were talking about this audio. As far as the answering machine's message goes, it doesn't fit on the update page. Griffintown 11:56, 9 December 2011 (PST)

We also lack an exact date of when he changed the message. It may have been that way for a while. The liability thing is not an issue - it's more than beyond the scope of the court proceedings. But yeah - the main point is - no shit is to minor re: the CWCki in general - but Da update bulletins are reserved for significant developments, such as the release of new material (by Chris or about Chris from true trolls) or events that involve Chris or a major actor in his life so far. A dry spell for Chris news is not an excuse to lower the bar of what's significant and what isn't. --Anonymax 11:35, 9 December 2011 (PST)

I was the one who added the message to the template, and I understand why it was removed. I do apologize. Interrobang 13:26, 9 December 2011 (PST)

Is this new or not?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Weston-Chandler/100002534669114

It's most likely a troll account, but I've never seen that picture before. --R3trogay 10:10, 26 January 2012 (PST)

Either it's Chris or it's someone DELIBERATELY HOARDING CONTENT and then leaking it for no reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 10:21, 26 January 2012 (PST)

• It's the same account that was accredited to be Chris's last time he made one...he just updated the photo for his profile and made a note in september. --4Macie 16:43, 26 January 2012 (PST)
  • this IS chris however its not going on Da Update because chris DOES read the front page and dont want him to close his FB account .-~ Slimz ~-. 05:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)

Recent events

Dear old MellowColor, perhaps the simplest of us all, is the first of you to ask the burning question - why isn't the new content, like Facebook and the Lemonade Stand thing, on Da update? Personally, I think these are significant developments that should be notified on Da update. After all, Da update is why most people come here - they'll come to see what's new with Chris. I think we should point out that yes, there is new content and Chris is up to his usual hijinks. Now of course, I understand why people have been reluctant to add it - they're afraid that Chris will see it, and stop posting stuff on Facebook and such. I can see that it'd be imprudent, but should we be concerned with Chris producing content? I personally don't like using the CWCki as a trolling tool, including censoring ourselves in order to get more content from Chris. But that's mostly my opinion though.

So what say you all? Should we perhaps have a media blackout of sorts? Should we lock this template until Chris is producing content again? I've thought of adding something along the lines of "This template is currently in lockdown mode, please check Recent changes for up-to-date news" but of course that'll just mean Chris will start checking out Recent updates (though he'd have to go through the effort of picking out what's new). Should we raise the bar on what constitutes an update? --Champthom 06:19, 23 February 2012 (PST)

I think while Chris is less active, we should lower the bar to a certain extent. It's not that we are desperate for Da Update to be updated all the time - but minor things can sometimes lead up to larger events, so Da Update can also serve as a "heads up" kind of system. --Anonymax 06:56, 23 February 2012 (PST)

EDIT WAR IN PROGRESS

I'm getting several notificiations a minute about new edits and it's fucking with my down time. Talk it out here or somewhere else rather than just undoing one anothers' edits. Preferably with several minutes between posts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 12:21, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Those who have access to Chris' Facebook have confirmed that the update is genuine, those who are in a position to confirm it on the ground have confirmed it. What more is required?Team CWCket 12:58, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

How was it confirmed, exactly? Did they talk to the girl he fucked? --T K 19 13:07, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

All I've seen of confirmation is Cogdev's twitter that the post is legit. I've yet to see a confirmation that Chris actually had sex with anyone, which is how the articles were written. Not to mention that the word of trolls has never been extremely reliable (see Ali Baboo or whatever his name was), it could be a joke for all we know.

Waiting a few days for more confirmation (if it exists) is a good idea at this point. If no more comes of this, it should probably be left off the CWCki entirely in my opinion. If others disagree or if no confirmation exists that Chris actually had sex, we should write the articles accordingly, i.e. say Chris claims to have had sex, not just assuming that Chris actually told the truth for once. Jesusfish 13:12, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

What form of confirmation would work for you?Team CWCket 13:31, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Confirmation from multiple users who have shown to be reliable in the past. Screenshots from other users. An actual picture (as in from a camera) or video of the facebook account or anything harder to fake. Something from the facebook of someone who we know is actually in contact with him, etc. One easily photoshopped picture really isn't much to go on.

Hell, Cogs or another admin could come on and tell us to keep it up and then it would stay. But that email from the Gameplace incident didn't go up for quite a while because it wasn't verifiable, this is no different. This is more an ED sort of thing until we get more info. Jesusfish 13:56, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

I think you have a good point with the GAMePLACe email. From my understanding, that one didn't come through 'regular' channels, meaning it took longer than normal to verify, but I think having something more to go on would be useful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 14:04, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

http://twitter.com/#!/cogsdev/status/190273723620794368 There's your confirmation. To be honest the only thing that surprises me about this is that he didn't do it as soon as Bob kicked the bucket.--GladesPlugin 14:46, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Chris actually had sex. That's what the cwcki should say. Canine 13:45, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Documented for blatant accuracy son.--Inos 16:08, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

With what I said above in mind, is there any way you can get a screencap that isn't so heavily cropped and/or uses the standard FaceBook font? I think one of the main reasons this has been doubted so far is because it LOOKS fake. All the other FaceBook screencaps have been in a standard format to which this screencap doesn't adhere. If you could get that, I think it would do a lot to assuage peoples' doubts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 14:04, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Uhh, maybe. But either way, Chris having gotten laid should be cwcki policy from now on. I think I have the authority to do that, right? I'm pretty sure I'm in the admin group. If not, I'll just find champ or cogs and have them do it. But I'm pretty sure I'm in the admin group. Canine 14:10, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

If Canine is considered a good enough source (if he isn't he should be) would it be alright for me to revert the relevant edits? Or would people prefer me to wait until a better screenshot is provided? (The old one can always stay up as a placeholder before being replaced by a new one.)Team CWCket 14:17, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

For the record, This is just Chris CLAIMING to have lost his virginity, not actual confirmation of his lost virginity. You can write that Chris CLAIMED to have gotten laid, not that he actually got laid. That's my $.02 --SargentPickles 14:31, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

No one's answered my question. Do we have a confirmation from the supposed unlucky woman and her identity is being withheld or are we just taking Chris's word for it? --T K 19 14:34, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

I agree with this. That's been the standard on what we do when Chris has said things of this nature in the past. If there's something else that acts as evidence aside from Chris' testimony, I think we should wait until it's released to claim that what he said was actually true. Chris has a tendency to integrate fiction into what he presents as reality. For example, I think it's reasonable to assume that they didn't actually "hit it off from the shared characteristic of being good people". Until we know what's real and what isn't, I don't think we should present any of it as more than what Chris said happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 14:43, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Uhh... I don't know. Like, sure, Chris will bullshit things. I'd say that Chris actually got laid. Chris got genuine vaginal sex. I can't verify anything else he claimed. Canine 14:50, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

I don't doubt that he did. I don't think you'd be pushing this if you didn't believe it. I think the issue Jesusfish was pointing out with the mention of the GAMePLACe email, and the main issue I have, is that unlike almost everything on the wiki that's presented as fact, there's not yet any physical confirmation that what he said correlates with reality. If there's more, which it would seem there is from your certainty, that's fine, but if it's not publicly available, it doesn't matter if we all agree that everything Chris wrote is true, it's against policy to treat it as fact. To quote the policy:

"In order for something to be considered update worthy, it has to be a publicly available media involving Chris. While there are many reliable sources who can provide information on Chris, it still does not hold up to encyclopedic standards, which CWCki strives to adhere to." I'm not saying I don't believe you, just that we shouldn't say it's true until we have something that indicates that it is beyond the boasts of the world's least reliable narrator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 15:08, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

So... the former, then? Cool, thanks for answering. --T K 19 15:26, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Thanks, by the way. It's been bothering me as much as it's been bothering other people and I think it's something that should be cleared up while it's still fresh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 14:44, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm really starting to think this is just part of a trolling attempt on Chris and/or the trolls by PVCC. A bunch of users who haven't done anything for years show up and try really hard to get the CWCki to say that Chris got laid, not just claimed to but actually did it. I don't know if there's a policy on the CWCki trolling Chris, but we probably need an admin to step in and give the say either way. Jesusfish 14:48, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm an admin. Chris had sex. And it's not just that he claimed he had sex. Chris had sex. Canine 14:50, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Scratch that, saw that you have protected pages before, although you've also edited articles trying to troll Chris. Still doesn't make me believe he actually had sex, but whatever, if people want it up and admins say so, it'll go up. Jesusfish 15:05, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Using the cwcki as a trolling tool is a really bad habit and I apologize for ever having done that. With that having been said, Chris *has* gotten laid. He's almost gotten laid in the past. He's tried to hire hookers before. He just managed to succeed this time. Canine 15:24, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Being an admin doesn't make you correct 100% of the time. Provide some proof, or leave it as "Chris claims to have sex". All we have are 2 facebook cutouts and "because I said so". That's not good enough for a wiki that's meant to be based on facts and evidence. --IThrewTheFrisbee 18:31, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

ANGRY VIRGINS IN DENIAL: GENERAL

To be honest, I don't think this issue has been resolved, and I think the continuing reversions is testament to that. It's late and I want to go to sleep. Would it be acceptable to have a short-term compromise until tomorrow and just have the update say that Chris claims to have had sex? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 16:15, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

No because he did and canine is an admin and said so. --Inos 16:17, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

That sounds logical and reasonable. Anyway, if Canine is so dead certain that Chris did the do, then I guess I'll take his word for it. Some actual evidence would be nice, but I'm sure he has his reasons for withholding it. --T K 19 16:21, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

There's the screencap of the status. Otherwise there's not any other evidence. It's not like Chris was able to tape it or anything. Canine 17:15, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Judging from your previous posts, you sure are confident in the validity of a couple of Facebook statuses. Why are you so sure he isn't lying? --T K 19 17:32, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Why would he lie now? He's always had the option to claim he's had sex in the past and he's never done it. Also, he's attempted to hire prostitutes before in the past. He fucked up before and they hung up on him, but if you keep trying at something, you'll probably eventually succeed. That's what happened here. He thought he was going to die in jail, so he didn't want to die a virgin. Desperation. Now, the only fact I am verifying is that Chris had sex. The rest is full of exaggerations and poor wording because Chris is a retard and can't write. Canine 21:09, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

• If it's worth anything, I really think we should stick with "Claimed to have had sex". Simply because Chris has exaggerated and lied about a lot of stuff (via facebook and other means) about relationship stuff. The Kissing Wall-flower bit, as well as claiming a woman named Chloe took his virginity. I'm not sure yet how we will confirm anything; but 1) the facebook status we have doesn't look right to me. It does not look like a facebook status at all (the font is off, it's too thin). 2) We've all seen Chris's dick, there's no way it was "Soo big and good, that it put the last dude she was with to shame". 3) Now, if we take what a twitter of cogsdev to be true, Chris did have sex.. but it was with a prostitute (which would suggest Chris is, in some part, lying). I have no problem with saying Chris had sex...if it's true. I just highly doubt it was with who he suggests it was with..and that it was free. So until we can somehow figure this out, I think "claimed" to have sex is good enough. I'm not sure why anyone has a problem with it. --4Macie 18:19, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
• Chris being a virgin is a big part of his identity. Since he is no longer a virgin, I'd like that to be mentioned on the cwcki. The font problems are because of linux bullshit. Canine 21:09, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm sure you have contact with people who have access to Chris' facebook, or the original leaker. Why can't we get a full screnshot that shows us a Linux OS is being used, or a photo of the monitor? And if you know for certain, why not tell us how you know? You can't just expect us peasants to bow down and accept your ruling without providing sufficient evidence.