CWCki:Community Portal

The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.

Please consult the archives to make sure your concern hasn't already been posted before:

CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 1
CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 2
CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 3

Welcome to the future

Welcome to the glorious future of MediaWiki 1.15.1! MediaWiki 1.11 was really old and busted.

Here are some of the things people should be aware of:

• This version of MediaWiki uses a new markup parser. It's a stricter parser that works a little bit differently from the old one. Which incidentally means that if you have broken markup somewhere, it might have worked in previous version, but it doesn't work any more at all. You may see a lot of articles that have broken <center> tags. Make sure they're properly balanced!
• There are a few new features that we might put to good use. One is __HIDDENCAT__. You can use it to hide categories that are purely for editors, and don't actually have stuff that benefits readers. For example, it's used in Stubs and Articles needing citations now.

I'll probably post more when I get inspired. --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 12:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Some help needed at Templates. Some frequently used templates had consistently broken markup and have missing </center> tags. They also use <table> tags instead of MediaWiki table tags. Take a look at what I did at, say, Template:Needs Images to see how to fix all of these, for the GLORIOUS FUTURE. --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 12:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

<center>

I'm pretty sure the (center) thing comes when people put a {{quote}} inside a <center></center> tag; quote has its own center tags included, so when MediaWiki parses them both you get two open tags and two close tags. One of the open tags, then, is rendered as text. --Umad 01:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

• Problem can also be avoided by changing the 'center' tag on Template:Quote to CSS; I'll look at it later. --Umad 14:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

• That's more difficult than I expected... looks like {{quote}} is going to remain cludgey for the time being, until somebody more patient/learn'd than I takes a crack at it. --Umad 01:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Broken refs

Similar issue: Some articles may use <ref> tags without corresponding <references/>. Previous version was silent about this, but new version puts a giant big red warning in the end of the articles. If you see it, please add a source section! --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 14:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Chris and/New pages

There's a lot of newfags, which isn't a bad thing but I think some people who decided to get into editing CWCki since we moved to the new server and who really haven't gotten a feel of how we do things around here. For starters, a lot of people want to start making pages which can be alright, but the problem is that they really don't get when a new page is warranted and when it's not. Particularly, it seems like the "Chris and" series is drawing a lot of attention to this regard.

For starters, let's discuss the "Chris and" series of articles. I think I might have actually come up with it, now that I think about it, mimicking how CWCkipedia might have an article like "x and y" to discuss topics that are too in depth for the main subject article. For example, there might be an article called "Thomas Jefferson and slavery" to discuss his views on slavery since it's such a huge topic that can't reasonably fit in the main Thomas Jefferson article. Same deal here - we could in theory mention this shit on the Christian Weston Chandler article but that would be huge, especially for topics like sex. It would be awkward to call something like "Chris and sex" just "sex" since people know what sex is, what they want to know is Chris's relationship to it.

I think the problem is that every single trait of Chris does not need a lengthy discussion unless it's very notable. Do we need a full page discussion that Chris isn't reliable when it can simply be said "Chris is not very reliable"? Likewise, there's a need for a degree of subjectivity - what is reliability? It's not like Chris sets any deadlines to make. Furthermore, not everything has to be "Chris and." As I said elsewhere, pretty much every article on here could be a "Chris and [x]" article. HOMOS could easily be "Chris and homosexuality." JERKS could be "Chris and men." Women's rights could be "Chris and feminism." Point is, not everything has to be "Chris and." For fuck's sake, be original. Think of a better name. For example, "Chris and facts" could easily be called "The world according to Chris." Unorthodox but more original.

About new pages in general, seriously, not every little thing about Chris deserves a page if it can be incorporated into existing pages. As long as it's mentioned somewhere, it's cool. Srsly.

Feel free to weigh in on this. --Champthom 00:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I like the Chris and: Series, I really do, but It's really only for things that play major, consistent roles in the bizarre story of Chris-Chan. Chris and writing is a good example. The way Chris writes is just so impossibly fucked up that it deserves more than just a single mention in the main chris article, but calling it just "Writing" is weird and awkward.

I think some of these new articles could really go far. Chris and Authority seems like it could cover an awful lot, but people really need to draft their articles in their sandboxes or talkpages to show what they're aiming for instead of just making a page with the title and a half-paragraph.--Beat 00:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Asperpedia

Clyde has started Asperpedia, the OFFICIAL and ORIGINAL wiki for Asperchu, the electric hedgehog Pokemon with Asperger's syndrome. From what I've gathered from Clyde, it's going to be like a cross between CWCki and CWCipedia. As there's many gifted wiki editors here, I encourage all of you to help out there (particularly with uploading all the comic pages of Asperchu onto there).

Ideally, big things will come from this, wink wink stomp stomp nudge nudge. --Champthom 20:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

• I'm such a dumbass, here's the link. --Champthom 23:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
  • I lol'd--Toughdog6789 06:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Quality control jerkops

I have just promoted Griffintown as the CWCki's first Quality Control Jerkop to patrol the CWCki to ensure high quality Bavarian standards for CWCki (i.e. pages don't suck). There will be a 30 day probationary period, ending 07 February 2010 so he will have to prove in that period he can help maintain high quality standards for CWCki.

CWCki strives itself on providing top notch info about Chris and the idea is that these new Jerkops will assist in making sure the CWCki doesn't suck and the information is accurate.

Godspeed to Griffintown and if you have concerns about article quality, be sure to mention it to him. --Champthom 04:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

• I would like to thanks Champthon for the great mark of confidence he did to me by giving me the extra powers needed to keep this place clean. If any member of the CWCki community feels the need to discuss any of my decisions here, please leave me a message on my talk page. I am ready to listen to any comment that can make the CWCki site a better reference on everything Chris-Related. Griffintown 03:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

I have also promoted Dude (formerly Umad) to Quality Control. Same thing as Griffintown, same probationary period. That's it for Quality Control promotions at the moment and I'll review how they do at the end of their probationary period to see if they remain permanently. --Champthom 01:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you very much. I have recently been occupying myself with formatting issues and finding homes for Unused Files (thank my meticulous Swiss ancestors), but I will now start being more proactive with page organization and content as well. Please do not hesitate contact me with thoughts, questions, suggestions or critiques! --Dude 06:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Fixing internal links pointing to the old site

Apparently people used tons of internal hard links to the old site. Most of these are simply attempts to link at "tricky to link" entries, like categories and images. (Hint: You can make a link to a category or image if you prefix the link with a :, like [[:Category:Something|Category of Randomness]].) The above link lists all such links in main namespace, which is pretty important. --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 10:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Stuff that Chris didn't do

Chris and racism currently has a PROTIP that says that Chris never actually used the expression "darkies". It reminds me: Should we have some sort of list of stuff that's often attributed to Chris, but never happened in real life? (Some other examples that spring in mind: Chris hasn't used the word "niggos" regularly, and he didn't actually have 100% trophies in Sonichu 2006.) Or should we just have some template like the PROTIP template, like this...

GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN FUCKING SKULL: Chris never said or wrote "No darkies", nor has he ever used the word "darkie". That doesn't make him a non-racist, however.

Ideas? --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 19:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

• I actually like this a lot. This is a good thing for actual distributions to Chris. --Champthom 01:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• The protip thing, that is. It's kinda like a little "Did you know?" thing but should be restricted to common misconceptions about Chris (like the darkies thing). --Champthom 03:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I think it needs the word INDIVIDUAL, for some reason. I think it's fine. Chris is a complicated animal and some of the more subtle things, like race relations, are open to misinterpretation. --OFSheep 21:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

This is a most excellent idea. The template is catchy and allow proper info to flow through. I will use it in the future Griffintown 03:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Unofficial Mailbag 41 project

I was originally going to have it so Chris would receive e-mails meant for Alec Benson Leary but instead, I did something more plausible by paying tribute to this Strong Bad e-mail by having every e-mail talk about Asperchu. Post e-mails in the same vein here and I'll post them. Only rule is please, don't alter the first four e-mails. --Champthom 01:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

• P.S. Deadline is like, in 24 hours. --Champthom 01:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

DPF call?

So these videos have gotten some attention and it seems like the real deal. On the one hand, some of the people in the call seem like huge fags. On the other hand, there seems to be some nuggets of truth in it. So, should we make a page for this? Consider it "apocryphal?"? Thoughts? --Champthom 00:41, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

• I can't listen to them right now, but I guess if an EDF idiot calls Chris and records it, it's our burden to transcribe it. Also, why the hell don't we have pages for Kacey Calls 2 and 3?--Beat 21:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion: New category

Do you guys think that there should be a category for Chris-related media that has appeared publicly? By which I mean things like the Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes or the McIntire Park video that appeared on TV. Basically, anything that's NOT exclusive to the internet. Tyranogre 22:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

• The two radio shows that featured him could go in that category too, if they had their own page. --Lime 22:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Got it started. I also added the articles that were printed in Nintendo Power, for good measure. Tyranogre 23:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Mailbags vs Simple Questions

I think Clyde already made a suggestion along these lines weeks ago, but can't we just replace the mailbags with series of simple questions? Most letters in the mailbags either: (A) insult Chris such that he deletes him, or (B) mix easy and hard questions such that Chris answers the easy questions but conveniently ignores the hard ones. If we replaced (or supplemented) the mailbags with series of questions (and more focused ones than what we're sending now), we could actually get Chris to answer tougher questions. Plus, less reading for Chris = a quicker turn-around time for answers = more opportunities for us to interrogate Chris about specific subjects. Llort 02:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)