Talk:Chris and English
"Spelling" is now "Typos" & "Spelling"
I made an account on this wiki for the sole purpose of fixing that. it's been driving me crazy for like a million years now... Hope it's okay (:
--Oddguy 2 June 2012
there's a difference between a spelling error (geinus or however he's been doing it for the past like what 6 years?) and typo
but i think this could be expanded to a Chris and English page imo Clydec 21:33, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
- Good point. --USAJAP1 21:36, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
- Chris and English sounds like a good idea to me. The way he talks and writes is unique, to say the least.--Beat 21:50, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
Spelling errors
Geinus seems to be the main one he's been making for years. Any others? Observe his grammar patterns and other shit and stuff. Yeah. stuff. Clydec 03:53, 22 October 2009 (CEST)
- "Seinor" is one he does consistently. --Champthom 06:00, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
Autism
I haven't read the article in full yet but I don't think there's anything noting that awkward speech is usually associated with autism. --Champthom 06:00, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
- It didn't even occur to me. My bad. --Beat 17:27, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
- Many autistics (at least aspies; you know, the ones whom Chris thinks are not actually autistic) are actually very precise and pendantic about grammar and spelling in a way that is quite unlike Chris. It wasn't for nothing that Hans Asperger called the kids he studied "little professors." --Doomknight 03:52, 2 December 2009 (CET)
- Likewise, some of the semantics thing is an autism thing. Like Chris answering "yes" to "Do you listen to music while drawing?" is an autistic thing. It's sorta like on Facebook when people would message him after he'd request to be their friend with "Do I know you?" and Chris would say something like "I don't know, I can't read your mind." Autistics tend to have very literal thinking and will fail to see the subtlety of a question, in this case "Do I know you?" is the socially accepted way of saying "Typically, people requesting to be my friend are people I know, and I don't know you. Are we connected in any way?" The "pen is mightier than the sword but more permanent than the pencil" is more of a random access humor thing. In fact, the random access humor is partially based in childish verb puns. --Champthom 04:33, 2 December 2009 (CET)
- The literal answers to questions deal is technically known as a lack of linguistic pragmatism. His fairly flat, unnaturally patterned speaking voice is probably a case of aprosodic speech. I'm mentioning it here because I don't think it matters much to the article, so I'm hesitant to add it (especially as my first edit), but there are attempts at technical terminology here and there. MaybeNever 03:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Chris and abstract thinking
Do you think this could be a "Chris and..." article? There is plenty of evidence that he is NOT an abstract thinker (This would highlight his "Child-like" thinking; children tend be concrete, i.e. literal, in their thinking, Chris is no exception). There's enough evidence of his concrete thinking to make into a separate article. . --Scarletdragon 23:21, 2 December, 2009 (CET)
- This is something that could be discussed in the autism article (and it's already discussed there) since this is really an autism thing. --Champthom 05:44, 2 December 2009 (CET)
Attempts to sound suave and educated
I can't really pin it down (I'm not great at literary analysis), but I've noticed that Chris often attempts to sound like, I dunno, a 19th century upper-middle class English writer. For example, in the email describing his detective work regarding the photo taken at the Game Place, he refers to playing a card game with "a young gentleman." I'm too lazy to search for more examples but perhaps you guys know what I mean. I you agree this is a trait, it should be mentioned either here or in the Writing article. Glorious Tentacularity 06:51, 6 December 2009 (CET)
Name change
This article should probably be renamed Chris and Language. What do you think? --Delabonte 16:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Renaming
I love how Spanish starts out and how it works without it being "Chris and Spanish." Perhaps the same should be done with this? thoughts? --Champthom 17:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Sarcasm
I think we need a better example for Chris' inability to understand sarcasm. Yeah, he missed the fact that Dan Hibiki is a Joke Character, but you have to remember that Chris is woefully behind the times. Dan wasn't in Street Fighter II, which is probably the last Street Fighter game Chris has even heard of. And that's if Chris has even played Street Fighter. Plus, as of Street Fighter IV, Dan is (supposedly) more of a Lethal Joke Character. A better example would be his interview with Screwattack Europe, where it's pretty obvious that the interviewer is mocking him. --Edrobot 03:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Some technicalities
Sorry for being pedantic, but there are a billion links back to the CWCki's page on Autism, but (to me, at least), some of the 'This is a characteristic of Autism' (to paraphrase) statements that are tacked onto the ends of some paragraphs seem like they were added shoddily out of necessity, and thus that the "characteristics" were thought up on the spot. I was tempted to add "citation needed" to one that particularly stood out, but resisted the urge. Also, I don't really know how to word it better, but there are two separate sections that deal with the link between concrete thought and Autism directly, could that not be revised, and perhaps somehow merged/better linked with the Sarcasm section? (Oh, I also *ahem* corrected some of the grammar, to explain my edit on the page...) Sussuro 15:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I did it myself. If anyone can do any better or is disappoint in my attempt, please go ahead and change it.Sussuro 01:52, 18 August 2010 (PDT)
I have to agree with too many links to autism. it's like some internet meme after everything Chris does that's stupid it's LOL PUT AUTISM LINK HERE. SenorTucan 16:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Repetitive language
We all know that Chris uses the exact same fucking terms over and over again, be they CWC-neologisms ("Boyfriend-Free Girl", "Sweetheart from the Ground-Up", "TRUE and HONEST"... you know the rest) or even actual proper terms ("Slanderous mockeries", "mislabeling", "I do not care for", even "crestfallen"), albeit with some slightly modified definitions. I actually found his repetitive use of the word "crestfallen" particularly interesting, since this is not only surprisingly advanced vocabulary, but Chris hasn't exactly used that many variations of the term. This paradoxically indicates both an advanced AND limited vocabulary. Perhaps this is just Chris trying to sound all-grown-up and failing.
Is this notable, or is this just something for the Autism bin by virtue of the fact that this is just repetitive autistic behavior? --SeventhBase 03:30, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- I've had this idea bumping around on my userpage for a long long time. I finally decided to codify it and add it to the page. If this is a crap edit, please revert, but I felt it was worth slipping in.Sygerrik 01:26, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Advertising
Hey. I cleared out that part of the article. Fact is, Chris advertises/puts on the advertising voice so rarely, it really didn't feel like it needed its own section. Plus, seeing the incomplete tag sort of breaks the page flow, so you know. PerilousSquall 12:41, 13 December 2010 (PST)
Dead link
During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
- http://www.teacch.com/info_primer.html
- In Chris and English on 2011-09-20 22:30:42, 404 Not Found
- In Chris and English on 2011-09-28 08:01:31, 404 Not Found
--Anonymax 01:01, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
CWC-Isms
there is an entire cwc-isms category that is never linked here. should it be? .-~ Slimz ~-. 11:10, 7 December 2011 (PST)
Slander
Hey I've noticed how little people talk about Chris and Slander. I read what you wrote about it but what about the times Chris has slandered people. Ex. Michael Snyder being a child molester. --Supyloco 2:55, 6 January 2012 (PST)
- its not slander if its true.. you are aloud to have opinions and presumptions, slander is is causing harm by lying.
- Yeah but he said that Michael Snyder molested his kids while he had no proof of that. He also said that Jason was a rapist. --Supyloco 1:24, 6 January 2012 (PST)
Chris's and adverbs
Should we add Chris's lack of adjectives in both speech and written work onto the Chris and English page?
- Go right ahead. Also, please remember to sign your posts with "~~~~". Alan Pardew (talk) 08:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Chris's tendency to Capitalize Certain Words and WRITE OTHERS IN ALL CAPS
So I'm reading through some of Chris' old posts on Facebook and chats, and I've come up with a theory as to why Certain Words Are Capitalized, others aren't, and SOME ARE IN ALL CAPS. Chris doesn't write as if he's writing, committing words to paper; he writes as if he's speaking into the paper, as if the written words will remember the intonation of his voice, and thus whoever reads it will know where he's placing emphasis.
Words that are all in lowercase are words that are supposed to be spoken at normal speaking volume. Words That Are Capitalized Are Meant To Be Slightly Louder As If Chris Is Speaking Forcefully, AND WORDS THAT ARE ALL IN CAPITALS ARE EVEN LOUDER AND MORE FORCEFUL, POSSIBLY BORDERING ON YELLING.
Thus, it has less to do with the importance of the words to the sentence or the concept he's writing about, and more to do with how loud he feels he needs to be to get his way, much the same as his usage of verbal English. Der Zuschauer (talk) 17:00, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Chris's dialect
There are many features of Chris's speech which are the result of his strong regional accent, not his speech impediment, autism or education. Fronted dental fricatives (as this becoming dis) are something I have heard among rural US Americans before, for example. The late Bob Chandler also has a strong accent. Several transcriptions include this kind of eye dialect beside the CWCisms. Would a Regional dialect section, or even separate article, be fitting? ChanOfTartary (talk) 15:22, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- I think the situation with the dialect is similar to Chris’s interest in music, where quite a lot of characteristics (specifically, interest in a wide range of genres, as well as being aroused*) are not really exclusive to Chris. Haven’t got around to reviewing much due to RL. --Little Owl (talk) 23:30, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
* If people do not get aroused by music, then love songs like Tonight, I Celebrate My Love or Always would have not done well in the charts.
Rename
Similar to the science article where there is a singular Chris and science article which link to other sub-articles. Is creating another article titled Chris and language with a section for english, a section for spanish and another section for other languages he has shown interest in (japanese), a good idea. It reduces the number of Chris and articles, as well as keeps the CWCki consistent. - klop (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Amogus
"The dimensional merge is among us! It has been suggested that this article should be merged with Chris and language. Discuss on the talk page."
"among us!"
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