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I believe Chris has commented on the subject of incest in his mailbags a few times, both to accusations of Sonichu and Rosechu's relationship being incestual, and on the legality of cousin marriage. I'm not sure which mailbags they were, but they need mentioning in this section. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe Chris has commented on the subject of incest in his mailbags a few times, both to accusations of Sonichu and Rosechu's relationship being incestual, and on the legality of cousin marriage. I'm not sure which mailbags they were, but they need mentioning in this section. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Hold up, hold up.
I might be new to CWCki, but can we really take the video here as fact? Nothing's been cited, it's just that some girl said that he fucks his mom. I really doubt that can be a valid source. Sure, it could happen, knowing Chris, but it's a bit far-fetched and isn't backed up by anything. We haven't heard it directly from the horse's mouth, so to speak, so we can't take it as fact, can we? If Chris, in all his wisdom, admits it himself, then it would be, undoubtedly, but some random trolls? I don't think so. I vote we strike that out of the section. / [[User:PerilousSquall|PerilousSquall]] 16:08, 14 November 2010 (GMT)


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:I suppose the next thing you're going to do is to remove the hiding template from the [[Nudes]] and [[Rule 34]] pages? Be consistent, guize. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 21:32, 23 October 2010 (PDT)
:I suppose the next thing you're going to do is to remove the hiding template from the [[Nudes]] and [[Rule 34]] pages? Be consistent, guize. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 21:32, 23 October 2010 (PDT)
::Hiding galleries is somewhat different. Plus I've always thought the Rule 34 gallery was tongue-in-cheek. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:44, 23 October 2010 (PDT)
Why is this a big argument? Nobody wants to look at the dick. Just delete it. I'd like to read this in my leisure time without worrying about someone thinking I'm staring at a fat shit's dick. / [[User:PerilousSquall|PerilousSquall]]16:24, 14 November 2010 (MT)
== "Female species" ==
I'm pretty sure his reference to women being a different "species" is influenced by Pokemon. In the original game the beasts were for the most part of undefined gender, while those who did have a gender were treated as different species to their counterparts of the other gender (ex. miltank/tauros, nidorina/nidorino). Keep in mind he knows shit about biology and uses Pokemon terms as if they were common knowledge and a part of everyday conversation.--[[User:Can't Unsee|Can't Unsee]] 18:11, 14 January 2011 (PST)
== The Prostitute ==
Do we know for sure that Chris only told the story about Jack to get free sex? (Has he said as much?) Or could another reason for hanging up on him be that he mentioned wanting to tape the act? I'm sure a prostitute wouldn't like the fact that a guy would want to tape the act, for obvious reasons. Not trying to say Chris wouldn't try to get free sex from a prostitute, I'm just throwing out another option.... That Chris actually thought a Prostitute would allow him to video tape her doing her illicit occupation.... for a PSN account no less. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:54, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
:Chris generally doesn't think things through, so it doesn't surprise me if he figured she would probably be up for it. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 08:38, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
== Chris and BDSM ==
I want to make this section. Good idea? I'm not the best at editing, but if I'm the only one who cares enough to do it I will. [[User:Femdom|Femdom]] 14:12, 26 November 2011 (PST)
:* Depends on what you exactly want to add. Personally I can't think of enough stuff for BDSM to have its own section...but if you can (with references, not speculation) go for it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:05, 26 November 2011 (PST)
::*Then I suppose I will get on it. Although, the stuff about him spanking himself is pretty explicit to me. And also, pegging. I will get my references together. [[User:Femdom|Femdom]] 18:28, 13 December 2011 (PST)
== is Chris REALLY a furry? ==
Regarding the subsection talking about whether Chris is a furry or not, I am not entirely sure that the answer is a straight yes. For one thing, the quote at the top of the subsection indicates that Chris declared himself a furry because he believes that he is part-Sonichu. Since both the quote and the tweet chain where Chris first said that he was a furry took place in May 2018, not long after Null and his gang removed the Idea Guys from Chris's circle of friends, I feel that its not unreasonable to conclude that the Idea Guys might have had something to do with it. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 00:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
:Agree about the Idea Guy influence, don't see any references to him calling himself a furry prior to the IG saga. What exactly is a furry, though? Looking at the {{w|Furry}} wiki page it seems to loosely define furries as people with an interest in anthropomorphic animals, would Chris qualify through things like his Chris Chan Sonichu character, RPing as Sonichu/Magi-Chan, and believing he's married to Magi-Chan? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:27, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
::That's a good point, but keep in find that Chris doesn't really contribute to the furry community at large, but then again, there isn't a concrete definition as to what a furry is, and I have seen many different opinions from many different people, furry or otherwise, on what makes someone a furry. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 00:50, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
== Sexuality section ==
Should we really have a section on sexualities, even homosexuality on this page? I feel the page should primarily be focused on Chris's whole stance on sex in general, as well as a few paraphilias, not the orientations. That's what the sexuality page is for. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 21:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
== Rape section's protip ==
Considering Chris's [[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]] where he says Barb's mental state was bad even prior to when he's said the incest began, which implies consent issues, should the protip be removed or reworeded to note he hasn't been charged with rape? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 20:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
:I'd say just reword it for now, while the letter heavily implies that Barb likely couldn't consent, it's still purely Chris's word. Before they can use the letter against him, that is if the letter IS sent to them, they have to charge him with rape, too. I'm only suggesting this, jus to be safe.[[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 20:50, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
== Rape/incest ==
The incest with Barb should probably be removed from Rape section, since the incest is already mentioned in the Incest section. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:01, 16 June 2024 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 18:01, 16 June 2024

Actually, so far so good, but I'm wondering - should we include Chris's views on women in a separate article (like how they're "so sweet" and such) or should we include it here? --Champthom 05:11, 28 January 2009 (CET)

It could go under "Knowledge of Sex and Gender." It'd only be a paragraph or so.~User:gourmetpickle

"he didn't understand sex until watch softcore porn on HBO around age 16)" < Fixed it to "he didn't understand sex until he watched softcore porn on HBO around age 16)". Was a glaring error; Though it was understandable to read through. IJustDontCareAnymore 00:13, 18 April 2009 (CEST)

I added the asexuality section to here, I totally forgot about this article when I originally wrote it. -- Needlepants 09:13, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

While I don't subscribe to the idea he's asexual, you present a great case for the idea. Personally, I'm of the belief Chris has the mentality of a spoiled 9-year-old who wants to play with his toys and video games 24/7, but who also wants in on the fun parts of being "grown up" without really understanding their implications. Ensign disposable 10:06, 8 August 2009 (CEST)

Is that conversation between Chris and Panda about her getting raped recorded somewhere? That is fucking beyond belief and I need to see it. Bunsteaks 21:04, 18 August 2009 (CEST)



Chris and Incest

Shouldn't there be a section on this page that displays Chris' thoughts on incest? As I recall, Chris and a troll talked about it back a long time ago in one of the earliest Mumble chats. Let's also not forget what was implied between Sonichu and Rosechu in episode 9 of the audiobooks. What do you think? --EdtheHedgehog1894 12:39. 29 September 2009

I think your furriness masks your intelligence, kid. Good Idea.--Jump 20:51, 29 September 2009 (CEST)

I don't know why Sonichu and Rosechu's children haven't Evolved yet. I make sure Sonichu and Rosechu have Good, Straight Incest with their children on a Regular Basis, which SHOULD raise their Friendship Level significantly! Why wouldn't anyone want to have Sex?! I don't understand, but hopefully they will Evolve Soon. This is from the last letter on Mailbag 58. Now that's just sick, man. --OverTheRainbow 17:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if that answer was genuinely from Chris or not, could it have been from when Cwcipedia was vandilized? Or is I being naive?--Lunachu 19:18, 7 April 2010

Indeed, it was from the vandalism. I archived it for great justice. Pfargtl9000 01:58, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

If there is a case to be made that Chris has an incest fixation, someone should go ahead and write it up. I'd do it myself, but I can't really think of any solid evidence beyond Crystal's resemblance to that "Girlfriend's Gift" trading card. I believe you that there's an argument to be made here, Ed, or at least lulz to be generated. What did you have in mind? manwithoutabody 11:54, 30 April 2010 (CEST)

Added a bit on the incest thing. Personally, I think that Chris fails to differentiate between the different kinds of love. It's all the same to him, and it all ends in glorious sex one way or the other. When he discovered sex, it became a black hole eating away at all his previous concepts of love, so everything becomes a thin parody of romantic love that serves as a bullet train to china. Pick your favorite: he's 1) just that desperate for sex, 2) just that ignorant of social convention and feelings, or 3) just that much of a heartless monster who thinks with his broken genitals. EnsignDisposable 17:07, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I believe Chris has commented on the subject of incest in his mailbags a few times, both to accusations of Sonichu and Rosechu's relationship being incestual, and on the legality of cousin marriage. I'm not sure which mailbags they were, but they need mentioning in this section. --Edward 18:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Hold up, hold up.

I might be new to CWCki, but can we really take the video here as fact? Nothing's been cited, it's just that some girl said that he fucks his mom. I really doubt that can be a valid source. Sure, it could happen, knowing Chris, but it's a bit far-fetched and isn't backed up by anything. We haven't heard it directly from the horse's mouth, so to speak, so we can't take it as fact, can we? If Chris, in all his wisdom, admits it himself, then it would be, undoubtedly, but some random trolls? I don't think so. I vote we strike that out of the section. / PerilousSquall 16:08, 14 November 2010 (GMT)

Rape split

Given the stuff about Panda particularly and the fact that rape is a frequent thing when it comes to Chris, anyone think that perhaps the rape section could be split off into its own article? Thoughts? --Champthom 08:01, 3 October 2009 (CEST)

  • Sounds like a good idea to me. A lot could be written about that subject.

It'll probably be the creepiest article on this site, though. *shudder* --Lime Madotsuki.png 08:11, 3 October 2009 (CEST)

I'll run off with the current "Chris and Rape" section and make an article on its own. If nobody likes it, feel free to delete it; I'll leave the text on this page intact so that reverting it will be easier. Lord Snotfolus 23:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Alrighty, just did this. It's over here. Didn't add it to the template since it's not quite kosher yet. Lord Snotfolus 00:11, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Prostitution quote

Where did the quote from the prostitution thing come from? that seems like a conversation or e-mail worth reading.--Beat 21:44, 24 November 2009 (CET)

Chris's penis

Could someone find a pic of a seven inch erect penis in flaccid state, to compare to Chris's flaccid penis? The one from the shower vid definitely can't be seven inches, because it's about the same size as mine and I'm sure as hell not seven inches. --Champthom 01:58, 30 November 2009 (CET)

Turgid size doesn't always correlate perfectly with flaccid size. Kajillion 06:26, 17 December 2009 (CET)

Another point; Chris's obesity is not helping his manhood's size. The layers of fat around the base of his penis might artificially shrinks it. Besides, I wonder why we are talking about this. Chris got the habit to make false claims. In fact, I took the time to download and watch his "Mass-Debate" videos and I refuse to believe that his unit measure seven inches. He might make the number by adding his scrotum but I bet he's not longer than five. Griffintown 07:44, 17 December 2009 (CET)

Speaking of which, would it be possible to move that lower in the page, maybe put it under a spoiler tag? I and maybe a few others would rather not be scarred for life any further by it showing up the first second we glance our eyes onto the page. --CWCAttack 22:26, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

  • A sign warning you of really nasty shit like this would be okay, too. --CWCAttack 22:28, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
    • I'll say what I said below: I attempted to make a gallery-view thing but the pic won't display in a gallery. it's weird. If anyone is better with galleries they really should do this. I really don't want to look at that fucking thing, and I'd like to know what's in the article. it seems interesting. --DStecks 23:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Coping Methods

Would anyone happen to exactly know how Chris's coping methods are unhealthy? I kind of know about the sex change, but what about his other methods? --CWCAttack 21:10, 14 March 2009 (GMT)

  • They're explained pretty well here. He wants to, at least mentally, punish himself for having homoerotic thoughts. He wants to ban gay people from reality so that he never has to have those thoughts again. He's so convinced, for whatever reason, that homosexuality is just plain wrong, that he can't even allow himself to have these thoughts, let alone accept them. It's no healthier than reparative therapy is. also why does your sig say it's March? --sonichuis44 05:25, 9 December 2009 (CET)
    • This goes beyond homosexuality. Chris is taking great length to not mention anything remotely sexualized. His use of the terms "Pickle", "China" "Mass Debating" and "Hanky-Panky" instead of the proper terms for genitals, masturbation and sexual relations shows us what kind of cluster-fuck Chris's psyche really is. He's still in the stage where using or not using a "Magical Mantra" can give you free stuff and avoid taking responsibilities. Quite immature but oh-so autistic if you ask me. Griffintown 21:07, 28 December 2009 (CET)

Common Questions

  • A while back Chris said his favorite porn actresses were Jenna Jameson, Carmen Luvana, and Daisy Marie. I was hoping he would have a weirder taste, but is there any way we can use this information? V3N0M1300 08:46, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
  • You can just slap it in the article. (I.E. "At one time, Chris admitted that his favorite porn actresses were Jenna Jameson, Carmen Luvana, and Daisy Marie.")

Knowledge of Anatomy

The anatomy of Rosechu shows that Chris knows very little about female anatomy. However since this article is long should it be a new article? Chris and female anatomy or something? --Fearfulsymmetry 22:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Let's just call it Chris and anatomy, because we can see by his CWCRockin4Way picture that he fails harder at anatomy than Rob Liefeld. --BreadGod 19:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Asexuality

This article is supposedly oversized right? So here's an idea: Why not split off Asexuality into its own article? Because Chris has given a lot of his own opinions on asexuality before, maybe we could make that its own article in the same vein of the Homos article and just add that section into it? We could write a whole lot more on asexuality than just a theory that CHris might be it. We could put in stuff about his opinions on it, the problems it caused him with Megan, ect ect. Thoughts? --Edward 18:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I think we have enough information concerning his opinion about asexuals, so let's do it. --BreadGod 19:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
My Split Off template finally came in useful. I am pleased. --Edward 20:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Just get rid of the retarded arguments for Chris being asexual. Chris is most certainly NOT asexual and anyone who's watched him closely for a short period of time knows that. There's a simple way to shorten up the article. Elephant 02:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Gallery/Spoiler Tag?

I agree that this article is too long, and I want to help on it, but I think one of the most important steps is not making everyone look at Chris' duck every time they open the page. It's good that it's in there somewhere, but would it be possible to make it hidden somehow for us STRAIGHT individuals? Feel free to ignore this, probably a shitty idea and I'm probably a pussy for caring, but there's something about dicks that disrupts my flow. Thelieisacake 01:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I dont' think the gay individuals really want to see Chris's malformed wang any more than we do. Some things are just plain not cool.--Beat 01:44, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
I tried to make this, but the picture just won't display in a gallery. I think the gallery's sentient. If anyone knows how to do this better, it would be appreciated a lot. --DStecks 23:29, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Fixed. --Anonymax 02:14, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Very nice! What did you do to make it work? --DStecks 21:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Mount and do me

Should we include some information about how he doesn't realize that this is a receiver's shirt and how he fails to properly understand the joke? To me, he probably saw the shirt at Goodwill and thought "HURR HURR SEX JOKE" and bought it outright not knowing what it actually means. --BreadGod 20:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

About this Potential Edit War

Guys, calm the fuck down. We removed Chris' dick in the Duck article, and if you look at its talk page you'll see that I was largely in support of that change. The Sex page was also previously censored, and again I supported that change. If you can't tell, I think the picture should be censored.

However, DSteks, you really shouldn't just revert changes repeatedly without saying why. If you want it censored, you need the other editors to be on board, and you are ruining your argument by just dicking around (no pun intended, but I'm keeping it) and reverting edits. Talk it out for fuck's sake. Freecell 17:50, 23 October 2010 (PDT)

  • Also, because 1) I am in support of this censorship and 2) judging by DStecks' edits, he won't argue this himself, here's my principle argument for censoring this image in this and every article it is present in.
  • I fail to see any explicit advantage for not censoring this image. If we leave it uncensored, what does a reader gain from being assaulted by Chris' penis? If they are curious for whatever reason, it is still present, and so those who want to see it still can, and with ease. A showhide box does not disrupt the message of the passage, and the section functions independently of the image, making the picture extraneous.
  • On the other hand, those who don't want to see a naked Chris can still read the article without viewing the image, and without detracting from the message of the passage.
  • In effect, the optionality of the image enhances the experience of some users without detracting in any large way from the experiences of other users. Freecell 18:03, 23 October 2010 (PDT)
Well I am against censoring as CWCki is uncensored (with the exception of certain personal information) and in the fact that people are looking at articles with the topic of "...sex" etc. If there's no solid reason TO censor, then avoid it. --Anonymax 18:43, 23 October 2010 (PDT)
I suppose the next thing you're going to do is to remove the hiding template from the Nudes and Rule 34 pages? Be consistent, guize. --SeventhBase 21:32, 23 October 2010 (PDT)
Hiding galleries is somewhat different. Plus I've always thought the Rule 34 gallery was tongue-in-cheek. --Anonymax 22:44, 23 October 2010 (PDT)

Why is this a big argument? Nobody wants to look at the dick. Just delete it. I'd like to read this in my leisure time without worrying about someone thinking I'm staring at a fat shit's dick. / PerilousSquall16:24, 14 November 2010 (MT)

"Female species"

I'm pretty sure his reference to women being a different "species" is influenced by Pokemon. In the original game the beasts were for the most part of undefined gender, while those who did have a gender were treated as different species to their counterparts of the other gender (ex. miltank/tauros, nidorina/nidorino). Keep in mind he knows shit about biology and uses Pokemon terms as if they were common knowledge and a part of everyday conversation.--Can't Unsee 18:11, 14 January 2011 (PST)

The Prostitute

Do we know for sure that Chris only told the story about Jack to get free sex? (Has he said as much?) Or could another reason for hanging up on him be that he mentioned wanting to tape the act? I'm sure a prostitute wouldn't like the fact that a guy would want to tape the act, for obvious reasons. Not trying to say Chris wouldn't try to get free sex from a prostitute, I'm just throwing out another option.... That Chris actually thought a Prostitute would allow him to video tape her doing her illicit occupation.... for a PSN account no less. --4Macie 07:54, 25 October 2011 (PDT)

Chris generally doesn't think things through, so it doesn't surprise me if he figured she would probably be up for it. --T K 19 08:38, 25 October 2011 (PDT)

Chris and BDSM

I want to make this section. Good idea? I'm not the best at editing, but if I'm the only one who cares enough to do it I will. Femdom 14:12, 26 November 2011 (PST)

  • Depends on what you exactly want to add. Personally I can't think of enough stuff for BDSM to have its own section...but if you can (with references, not speculation) go for it. --4Macie 21:05, 26 November 2011 (PST)
  • Then I suppose I will get on it. Although, the stuff about him spanking himself is pretty explicit to me. And also, pegging. I will get my references together. Femdom 18:28, 13 December 2011 (PST)

is Chris REALLY a furry?

Regarding the subsection talking about whether Chris is a furry or not, I am not entirely sure that the answer is a straight yes. For one thing, the quote at the top of the subsection indicates that Chris declared himself a furry because he believes that he is part-Sonichu. Since both the quote and the tweet chain where Chris first said that he was a furry took place in May 2018, not long after Null and his gang removed the Idea Guys from Chris's circle of friends, I feel that its not unreasonable to conclude that the Idea Guys might have had something to do with it. Superspongebobbros (talk) 00:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Agree about the Idea Guy influence, don't see any references to him calling himself a furry prior to the IG saga. What exactly is a furry, though? Looking at the Furry wiki page it seems to loosely define furries as people with an interest in anthropomorphic animals, would Chris qualify through things like his Chris Chan Sonichu character, RPing as Sonichu/Magi-Chan, and believing he's married to Magi-Chan? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 00:27, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
That's a good point, but keep in find that Chris doesn't really contribute to the furry community at large, but then again, there isn't a concrete definition as to what a furry is, and I have seen many different opinions from many different people, furry or otherwise, on what makes someone a furry. Superspongebobbros (talk) 00:50, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Sexuality section

Should we really have a section on sexualities, even homosexuality on this page? I feel the page should primarily be focused on Chris's whole stance on sex in general, as well as a few paraphilias, not the orientations. That's what the sexuality page is for. Psycho (talk) 21:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Rape section's protip

Considering Chris's Jail Letter - 29 July 2022 where he says Barb's mental state was bad even prior to when he's said the incest began, which implies consent issues, should the protip be removed or reworeded to note he hasn't been charged with rape? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

I'd say just reword it for now, while the letter heavily implies that Barb likely couldn't consent, it's still purely Chris's word. Before they can use the letter against him, that is if the letter IS sent to them, they have to charge him with rape, too. I'm only suggesting this, jus to be safe.Psycho (talk) 20:50, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Rape/incest

The incest with Barb should probably be removed from Rape section, since the incest is already mentioned in the Incest section. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 19:01, 16 June 2024 (EDT)