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Without trolls, Chris is pretty different. I mean, not in his personality, of course. He's pretty much the same person regardless. But his reactions on youtube were highly inflated by troll girlfriends whispering shit to him behind the scenes. "Oh Chris, you're not just going to take that, are you? Chris, I need a man who can stand up for himself, not just a little wuss..." It takes quite a bit to whip Chris up into a frenzy. And it's hard to keep it going.}} | Without trolls, Chris is pretty different. I mean, not in his personality, of course. He's pretty much the same person regardless. But his reactions on youtube were highly inflated by troll girlfriends whispering shit to him behind the scenes. "Oh Chris, you're not just going to take that, are you? Chris, I need a man who can stand up for himself, not just a little wuss..." It takes quite a bit to whip Chris up into a frenzy. And it's hard to keep it going.}} | ||
==Troll-Scripted Content== | |||
7 [[December 2017]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/page-8#post-2831215([https://archive.ph/BQ36f archive])</ref> | |||
In response to a user's comment, "So what stuff was actually outright scripted?": | |||
{{quoteboxkiwi|Most non-rant videos, like [[cakefarts]]. | |||
The rant videos were more freeform, though they often had a framework or were in response to a specific request. ie "talk about topics X, Y and Z, and be sure to mention that you think he's weak! call him weak, like some sort of big disaster, like a bridge collapsing. ooh, or [[Twin Falling Towers|compare him to 9/11! that'll embarrass him]]!"}} | |||
==Marvin on Chris knowing that he was the Man in the Pickle Suit== | ==Marvin on Chris knowing that he was the Man in the Pickle Suit== | ||
Revision as of 04:37, 10 November 2022
This page is an archive of Marvin's key posts about Chris on the online forum, Kiwi Farms. Posts are sorted by date.
Marvin on how the Miscreants trolled Chris
| I'm not sure the distinction you're making. For example, Liquid and Kacey working together to troll Chris is a conspiracy. Just by definition.
The point I'm trying to make is that we knew Chris' psychology very well, so we knew what to say to him to get him riled up. But those situations were very artificial. The trolling makes people think Chris just randomly gets mad and starts yelling at people if you call Sonichu gay. Or call Sonic gay. The youtube videos leave out all the calls and messages from e-girlfriends that built up Chris' reaction. For every trolling saga, there was a bunch of stuff happening in the background. Without trolls, Chris is pretty different. I mean, not in his personality, of course. He's pretty much the same person regardless. But his reactions on youtube were highly inflated by troll girlfriends whispering shit to him behind the scenes. "Oh Chris, you're not just going to take that, are you? Chris, I need a man who can stand up for himself, not just a little wuss..." It takes quite a bit to whip Chris up into a frenzy. And it's hard to keep it going. |
Troll-Scripted Content
In response to a user's comment, "So what stuff was actually outright scripted?":
| Most non-rant videos, like cakefarts.
The rant videos were more freeform, though they often had a framework or were in response to a specific request. ie "talk about topics X, Y and Z, and be sure to mention that you think he's weak! call him weak, like some sort of big disaster, like a bridge collapsing. ooh, or compare him to 9/11! that'll embarrass him!" |
Marvin on Chris knowing that he was the Man in the Pickle Suit
| I'm not in contact with Chris. (Other than the occasional tweet.)
When people troll Chris, they frequently come to me for advice. In the process, they share details about what's going on. I don't know if Chris specifically knows I was the man in the pickle suit, but I think he'd probably forgive me, a la Adam Stackhouse and the other rehabilitated cwcville enemies. I think he knows my twitter handle is a troll, at least. And he forgave me at magfest for whatever he thinks I've done under my twitter handle. |
Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake
12 July 2018[4]
In response to a user's comment, "Devoting hours to managing Chris would be the solution that would work best, but nobody has that time. But getting Chris to check in about anything that sounds suspicious could help.":
| It takes like 15 minutes a day, tops. Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first. Otherwise it just sits in his inbox. Hell, it's actually an email null set up. Chris specifically has all his business messages go there. |
In response to a user's comment, "Okay, so explain - this predated the existence of the filters?"
| The filters were from years ago. Chris asked one e-girlfriend in one saga to watch his shit. He stopped trying to balance "troll vs not troll" on his own and just let the e-girlfriend do it. He doesn't read the message, he clicks "forward" or moves it to the "troll info" folder.
He also did it with Rob Bell, as I noted. Then the next e-girlfriend came along and didn't pick back up on that. Hasn't been a thing since. And that was back in like 2011? 2012? At the most recent. |
Marvin on why Chris continued to believe the beliefs planted by the Idea Guys
| "Reality" is a malleable concept to Chris.
To Chris, that these losers were pretending to be imaginary characters doesn't mean they they didn't unwittingly connect with their counterparts in the other dimension or whatever. So yeah, he thinks Wise and Boyd were assholes who stumbled upon some magic or some shit. Chris is mostly mad about money first and being made to embarrass himself second. In regards to why he still maintains a lot of their canon, it's because Chris is too invested in his imaginary world to give up on it so easily. I think after Wise and Boyd were outed, he felt really uncomfortable about retconning most of their changes. Because if he retcons the past six months, then fuck, why can't he retcon all of it? That would make him feel really uneasy about the possible reality of his imaginary world. That reality is most important to him. |
Marvin on lost content regarding the trolling of Chris
| No, something like 90% of what got Chris to make the videos he did was never made public. |
References
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/7-5-chris-and-chrissy.10627/page-6#post-822127 (archive)
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/page-8#post-2831215(archive)
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/page-820#post-3000149 (archive)
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 ([archive https://archive.ph/5Tsnm])
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-815#post-4002093 ([1] archive])
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/official-decision-regarding-gender-and-chris-gender-discussion-megathread.6283/page-31#post-5067791 (archive)