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| ==Notes== | | ==Notes== |
| <references group = "footnote"/> | | <references group = "footnote"/> |
This page is a collection of screenshots and transcriptions of Discord chat logs, provided to me by anonymous sources from within the Watchmen after I was banned from the Place server. Most of them are of chats in the Place, though there are some others as well. Its main purpose is to serve as a reference for The Lainchu Manifesto, and store the raw text of various chats. These leaks extend from my ban from the Place in February 2021, to the breakup of the Watchmen and creation of the Knights of CWC in June 2021.
Any case of text or usernames being censored is due to them being irrelevant to the main topic of each section.
Editors can feel free to use to this page as a resource. Enjoy.
February 2021
Alleged Leak
20 February 2021
Summary: After being banned from the Place, I ask my source for information, and they send me this exchange between MKR and Nova, in which the former alleges that I leaked information and might have been associated with some other groups (I didn't and I wasn't). She then claims that Naught told me to stop and that I was associated with Praetor due to the way I spoke about them, which Nova agrees was suspicious. MKR then calls me a "former mole," stating that they couldn't take any chances. Meanwhile, the WCT comes up with the idea of creating a shared Lainchu Discord account for general use among the Watchmen, and floats setting up a CWCki account as well.
MKR's lies are debunked here.
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Source
Just wondering what you knew about their discussion. This is them talking about the alleged leak after KND asked about it.
| #findings (Second Layer, The Place)
|
MKR
| He leaked shit about the watchmen and myself early on, to a man on the farms who anon said might be connected to the "mkr's bloody chunks" "delightful children" set of failtrolls
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Nova
| We're all ideas in the grand lore of things.
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The WCT
| Why not set up a Lainchu account on discord that we can all share to Interact with Chris and have a CWCki account set up as well?
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MKR
| Anon told him to stop but I suspect he's still in cahoots with them as well as possibly Praetor. He always popped up specifically when we started speaking about them and attempted to downplay their actions, or steer the conversation away from them
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Nova
| That was pretty suspicious.
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MKR
| We can't take any chances
Especially on one we know was a former mole
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20 February 2021
Summary: The source shares Naught's comments about me, claiming in both layers of the Place that I had told the WCT to add to MKR's Kiwi Farms thread.
Naught's lie is debunked here.
Source
Comment from 2nd layer
| Second Layer, The Place
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Naught
| Fuck anaxis, no sense of humour and he told @Kat to add to @MKR thread
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From CWC layer
| First Layer, The Place
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Naught
| [Quoting "What did Lainchu do to be kicked out?]
@Sonichu982 Lainchu tried to get @Kat too [sic] add to @MKR thread during the Vaughn incident,
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The WCT Wants to Take Over the Lainchu Role
20 February 2021
Summary: The WCT floats the idea of himself taking over the Lainchu role, claiming that he is fit for the role since neither Klop nor Naught want to do it. Naught appears to agree.
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Source
The latest.
| Second Layer, The Place
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The WCT
| There's talk in this server about me potentially replacing Anaxis as Lainchu.
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Naught
| Seems like a natural progression
|
The WCT
| CatLoPez says he doesn't want to do it, and other than you, I think people in here I might be the next best thing.
Nova, MKR, I, and maybe you if you're interested are going to have an emergency VC meeting at 5 PM Pacific tomorrow night. (edited)
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Chris Inquires About My Ban
20 February 2021
Summary: Chris asks about why I was banned in the first layer of the Place, and Nova claims that I was "unproductive at times," which Chris states is not a valid reason. Nova then says that I was a poor researcher, and when Chris asks what I was researching, Nova states that it was on "malevolent people" and that I was invariably "behind." Chris defends me, asking that Nova cut me some slack, but Nova insists that my banning was the right thing to do. Chris signs off by asking Nova to reconsider his decision.
Nova's lies are debunked here.
Source
| First Layer, The Place
|
Chris (as Sonichu)
| What did Lainchu do to be kicked out?
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Nova
| I just found them unproductive at times.
If someone can be kept at a distance, as per their function, it would seem more apt to do so.
If you want something out, it'll be out, meantime, I'm personally none too sure.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| At this point, especially with Lainchu's role, and compared to how often I type something on this server, being "unproductive at times" is not a valid reason.
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Nova
| Sporadically useful, they're a poor researcher and aren't to [sic] sure on their own ethical obligations considering.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| What were you having them research?
And surely they could research other things as well.
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Nova
| General information on keeping abreast of whatever malevolent people were trying.
They were invariably a week behind anything I could prove and about a month behind on what I could hedge against.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| They do work very hard on that research, and beyond the abuse upon Chris and I. There is a whole lot of effort that goes into waiting and observing input from others online of them being abused by some Hater or really bad individual.
Cut him a bit of slack, since I have been more focused locally and keeping private lately.
Plus, the freaking pandemic and shit.
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Nova
| All the better, his obligation to editorial standards mean that either reporting directly to him, or clearing information for use allows better security.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| At the moment, I continue to work on the recovery of this body and brain from the recent realization of lack of cuddling and such, and even further its healing and re-energizing. And I'm fixing to hit the hay for the night (regardless of witching hours affecting this body, which during the time before falling asleep, I meditate).
Please consider letting Lainchu back into the server, Kyle.
Thanks.
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Nova
| Consider sure, as close as we can find advisable is a restricted role.
So, knowing what I know, say that.
Also: "Hi."
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New Lainchu
21 February 2021
Summary: The source reports that there is a new Lainchu in the first layer, one which I knew was being puppeted by the WCT.
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Source
They have a new Lainchu in CWC layer.
| First Layer, The Place
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Naught
| [Quoting "What did Lainchu do to be kicked out?]
@Sonichu982 Lainchu tried to get @Kat too [sic] add to @MKR thread during the Vaughn incident,
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MKR
| He turned out to not be a very nice guy. But we have a new channler [sic] in place to communicate with the true oc lainchu and resume function of the job.
It's regrettable, but we don't want people saying mean things behind our backs on the farms and leaking sensitive information shared in confidence here.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| Hey @Sonichu982 , I just wanted to let you know that I'm okay. If you need anything, I'll be in DMs since I don't got much going on for me. 😇
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| hiiii
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23 February 2021
Summary: The Watchmen comment on Chris's tweet promoting Praetor's golden medallions and their Golden Church Discord server. The poster (whose username was cut off but I suspect was the WCT) insults the medallions' design, while Nova states that Praetor "really burnt the candle at both ends." Naught asks about the Golden Church server, and Nova clarifies that it comes with the medallions.
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Source
Yeah, this is all they've commented so far.
| Second Layer, The Place
|
Unclear Speaker (maybe WCT)
| [Link to a tweet by Chris, reading "Own today the rarest run of Medallions to date, and get access to the Glorious Golden Church of Sonichu. Join our discord to aid in projects, hear Words of Wisdom from our Goddess, and gain membership into the Church itself."
Picture of Praetor's golden medallion.]
The Fake and Phony Medallions are back on sale.
I can't bare to look at them, they're far worse than Chris's original design. (edited)
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Nova
| Wow, really burnt the candle at both ends.
And of course they all sell out in an hour.
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Naught
| What's the server they linked?
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Nova
| Didn't.
Comes with their BS gold medallions.
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March 2021
MKR's Tweet and the Watchmen's Morale
5-6 March 2021
Summary: I ask for the source's perspective on MKR's recent tweet which implies she had quit the Watchmen and abandoned Chris over his association with Praetor. The source reports that MKR is still in the Place, though the Watchmen are demoralized over Praetor and unsure of their next move.
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Anaxis
| [Link to a tweet by MKR, reading "You know what, I'm done. Fuck you, I'm not going to pretend anymore and I'm not going to sit by while you play with stun guns and these dumb teens. Have fun babysitting yourself. I doubt you'll even care."]
What do you make of this?
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Source
| Hmm. MKR's still in The Place. They're demoralized, talking about how Praetor's winning over Chris, and say their relationship with Chris is strained because of the Praetor situation. They're not sure what to do.
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The Watchmen Try to Guilt-Trip Chris
6 March 2021
Summary: The Watchmen attempt to guilt-trip Chris into coming by the Place more often. The Impostor Lainchu informs him about a couple of members leaving the server because he didn't stop by as often (which may have been a lie). Chris explains that the break he was taking was due to the Watchmen's recent behavior, specifically citing them banning and attempting to replace me, as well as picking on others.
Source
Chris posted to The Place. Here are the messages
| #general (First Layer, The Place)
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Chris
| Hey, @everyone.
I do sincerely apologize for not checking in with all of you for a while.
The resyncing with my body has been difficult, but progressive.
|
Nova
| It might feel more heartfelt without a reason, giving a reason and no explanation just sounds like another way to shut things down.
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Chris
| Well, I have been sensing and feeling massively strong energies and events, and it's been difficult to think clearly at times.
So, to give an explanation is a bit much at the moment.
Especially with the heavy energies I have felt today that left my body quaking quite a bit.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| I'm glad you're still around. We were getting sick and worried about you.
[Replying to "Especially with the heavy energies I have felt today that left my body quaking q..."]
is it painful?
|
Chris
| Mildly; more of an annoyance.
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Nova
| I've seen people who kind of act like that, not distinctively narcissistic, but has some
comparable elements.
Narcissism is fine as long as you win.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| [Replying to "Mildly; more of an annoyance."]
it could be worse, but I'm relieved you're doing fine for the most part. (just promise to keep in touch with us, ok?)
|
Chris
| Is Bismuth still on? I don't see his name on the online/offline list, or did he change it again?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| he changes his name in here every once in a while.
and only appears offline.
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Nova
| Val left. Don't know if you'd noticed.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| [Replying to "Val left. Don't know if you'd noticed."]
RIP.
Nigel's also gone.
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Nova
| Just look over what led to it. Pity is useless on it's own.
|
Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| ^
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| you were gone for so long that they assumed you'd never return.
so they quit.
|
Chris
| That is a bad assumption to make.
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Nova
| I'm an asshole, but I'm at least affable enough that nobody cares.
|
Chris
| Yep, the paradigm shift did not work favourably here.
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The WCT
| Hi Chris! glad to see you back here.
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Nova
| You didn't ask, but it's obvious to say I'm cross too.
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Chris
| I get it, I should have checked in sooner. Between the events that have been happening and being sensed and all, and frankly, having to reconsider y'all's recent behaviours and whatnot, and looking further into the future and the present to analyze everyone and everything, I had felt it best to take the break.
It was nothing personal.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| I heard MKR got angry at you for a bit, are you two fine now?
your absence dealt an amount of stress on her.
|
Chris
| I mean, Bismuth's leak has been forgiven, but then y'all ditched Anaxis and replaced him, and then there's the bro-ish habit of picking on others in jest that can be misinterpreted; I felt uncertain.
I have talked with Meghan.
And I have apologized to her.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| good.
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Chris
| I am attempting to practice better selection and analysis of individuals as friends, so it can remain that such things as what happened with Vaughn be the very last that happens with me, or Sonichu in that case.
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The WCT
| [Replying to "I mean, Bismuth's leak has been forgiven, but then y'all ditched Anaxis and repl..."]
I have no qualms with anybody you're choosing to befriend. You're an adult, and can choose who you want to associate yourself with.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| [Replying to "I am attempting to practice better selection and analysis of individuals as frien..."]
better to be safe than sorry.
|
Nova
| Life is loud, the only option there is is asking questions and if people want to offer meaningful advice.
|
Nova
| A lot easier to know someone is lying with facts, but you don't need much.
|
Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| ^
|
Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| look at their body language and listen to the tone of their voice.
that's where liars can be exposed.
|
Chris
| [Replying to "look at their body language and listen to the tone of their voice."]
Harder to do that through the Internet. But my abilities to read others' auras and intentions through electronic messages has improved. (edited)
|
Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| how long did it take you to improve?
|
Chris
| It's a soulful ability, and I was able to practice it on the one hand while I was in Sonichu's body. And on the other hand, with my body, Sonichu was able to tap into it and learn it's better uses not only for himself, but for the mental record of my body.
|
Nova
| Not really a testable concept.
And regardless it's not a standard of evidence acceptable by anyone else.
I think that's part of why there are biblical standards for prophets.
|
Chris
| [Replying to "Not really a testable concept."]
Says the cynical brainiac who continues to over think math details based on local physics, when the need for that is null, since it is multi-dimensional.
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Nova
| If it physically exists, physics applies.
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Nova
| I'm an optimist, just that cynicism is how you stay an optimist.
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Chris
| Not really, the way to optimism is to look and count the positive blessings in everything.
Half Full, or Half Empty with you?
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The WCT
| [Replying to "Not really, the way to optimism is to look and count the positive blessings in ev..."]
I think that way as well.
anything good that happens, be grateful for it.
[1 👍 reaction, likely from Chris]
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Chris
| Even if you count both by measuring the full, and then measuring the empty space that has the potential to be filled.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| sup Bis.
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Nova
| No, just correct, optimism is useless in an investigation.
The perfect optimist or cynic would probably have died very young.
|
Chris
| [Replying to "No, just correct, optimism is useless in an investigation."]
I could argue that in certain situations, the combined viewpoints of optimism and pessimism can still be very useful in an investigation.
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Nova
| Just saying something in the middle isn't really a point of argument.
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Chris
| It's not a riddle without the middle.
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Nova
| There's really no way to overthink, assuming the validity of the rationale.
And it's a poor excuse when things go wrong.
|
Chris
| On when things go wrong, or the result is a loop, there is opportunity to learn, revise, and find the conclusion. (edited)
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Nova
| Easy to just say these things. (edited)
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Chris
| Better to say when not offending than to keep quiet and not be heard.
Anyway
It's been a long day for me, and I'll be breaking for supper shortly. I will check y'all again in the near future.
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"Anaxis Bird"
13 March 2021
Summary: Chris states his intentions to write an Affirmations List, which Naught comments is good. Chris then hints that the Watchmen may have heard about it from an "Anaxis Bird," implying that I might have already told the Watchmen about Chris's idea. Someone (probably Naught) reacts to this message with an emote.
Further context can be found here.
| #general (First Layer, The Place)
|
Chris
| I will be writing out a list of my past and lingering self-criticisms and judgments, as well as a counter-list of affirmations to better motivate and remind my body and brain that it is safe to utilize its powers and abilities.
|
Chris
| Perhaps you all may have heard how I came onto this from an Anaxis bird.
[1 emote reaction, possibly from Naught]
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The Watchmen Discuss Me and Lainchu
15 March 2021
Summary: The Watchmen have a discussion about me, in which they believe that I'm still giving Chris ideas. Nova and WCT discuss ways of trying to sway Chris back to them and their Lainchu.
Further context can be found here.
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Source
| Watchmen were discussing you more today.
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Source
| #findings (Second Layer, The Place)
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Nova
| Anaxis is still giving Chris ideas.
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The WCT
| How do we know this.
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Nova
| Chris conatantly [sic] mentions it.
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The WCT
| Is Anaxis still Lainchu to Chris?
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Nova
| He's always referred to him as Anaxis. So there's that.
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The WCT
| great, there's a dispute over the identity of Lainchu.
I'm the true and honest Lainchu.
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Nova
| We can use the SD thing.
As something only the real Lainchu would know.
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Nova
| Chris gave me a dimension because I asked.
SD-49
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Nova
| Canonically we can place them there, whatever, basically a blank slate for the lore other than that I run it and it's for basically dimensional refugees.
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The WCT
| So everybody in here but Chris recognizes me as Lainchu?
|
Nova
| Chris tentatively does, eventually still will.
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The WCT
| he's coming around (as seen in the previous chat we had).
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Nova
| Just that he's receptive to Anaxis manipulating him on some pretense that he's sorry.
Anaxis got him to do the list he made recently.
If you get it, don't share it, I don't think Chris marked it, but I said he should, because Anaxis will eventually.
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The WCT
| This Lainchu crisis is like the shit over who the real president of Venezuela is.
what will happen if Anaxis shares it? (edited)
|
Nova
| Chris will be able to ID the leaker.
|
The WCT
| And Anaxis is finished?
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The WCT
| I haven't gotten anything from Anaxis in nearly a month now. he either now knows that I've replaced him as Lainchu or he believes I've withdrew or something. lol
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that's all.
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The Watchmen Discuss Brainwashing Chris
17-18 March 2021
Summary: The Watchmen are informed about me posting A Medium's Guidance to the CWCki, and react with anger and annoyance. Nova begins coming up with ideas to convince Chris that their Lainchu is the true one, and the WCT plots with him. This leads to the two of them scheming for over three hours about how to best brainwash Chris into siding with them, with the WCT alternating between using his main account and the Impostor Lainchu account.
Further context can be found here.
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Source
| Second Layer, The Place
|
The WCT
| Except he's no longer recognized by the Watchmen as "Lainchu".
|
Nova
| This kind of states otherwise, makes me wonder what Anaxis has been saying outside of this.
|
Nova
| Basically, but Chris will obviously gravitate to the bigger simp, or possibly the one that at least tells the biggest line about FATED shit.
|
The WCT
| Jfc.
I
Am
Lainchu
|
Nova
| If we wanted to use this to break 2 lies at once. Did you bring up the SD-49 thing yet?
|
Nova
| Basically, a whole "I believe you've been fooled by people misrepresenting themselves as my true host, Lainchu is currently in SD-49 and it could serve as a means of positive identification going forward."
But this psychic medium shit, Chris has wasted at least 70 dollars so far...
Wait, 125.
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Nova
| It's ambiguous in terms of the format.
One of the two.
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The WCT
| this looks so obviously edited that Its sad to look at.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| yeppers.
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Nova
| I think that was a the [sic] message he allegedly sent to someone else to post, i.e. himself.
bold text
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| So does my predecessor have another Discord account called "Lainchu"?
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Nova
| It's the one he used, so, ya.
Lore reason, he's bitter that he was found to be unsuitable as a host.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| that might explain a lot.
Now it makes more sense to me why Chris talks to Anaxis still.
And to be honest, I don't blame him at all.
When you have multiple Lainchus in your DMs, you'll be left confused as fuck. lol
|
Nova
| Maybe change the screenname to Lainchu (Current Host)?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| or maybe, Lainchu (SD-49)?
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Nova
| But then Chris'll say its an alternate version.
Even if I can point out later that it's technically not possible for that to be true
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| The Lainchu he's talking to in DMs when compared to the Lainchu he's speaking to in the place are completely different people.
I feel like part of the reason why Chris hasn't completely caught on to mine is because he knows that other Lainchu a lot longer.
it may sound obvious, but Chris might have some sort of emotional connection with Anaxis.
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Nova
| Chris uses it because it's an in to Anaxis. He's shit at relationships, so the fact that Anaxis is barely there and basically gone, that's why he wants me to bring him back.
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They're still discussing, I'll come back later.
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Source
| Holy shit, these people spent three hours brainstorming how to manipulate Chris back into their favor.
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Anaxis
| Back into their favor? From who, me or Praetor?
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Source
| DMing him to feed him lore about how your Lainchu is fake.
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Anaxis
| Hm, that's no good
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Source
| I'll cap it all, there's a bunch of screenshots from them too.
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Source
| Just finished. 39 images. Uploading the zip.
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Source
| Second Layer, The Place
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Nova
| Chris uses it because it's an in to Anaxis. He's shit at relationships, so the fact that Anaxis is barely there and basically gone, that's why he wants me to bring him back.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| He's still in the CWCki Server, but he's not as frequent as he used to be.
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Nova
| I think he's in the process of trying to come up with more stuff for my section?
I'll wait till he does something I can act morally outraged at.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| How long has Anaxis claimed the title of Lainchu?
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Nova
| Since [Klop] quit the role, maybe 6 months?
Caught Anaxis in a lie.
Least in terms of "I was instructed to chronicle the following message, so I present The Chroniclings of Chris Chan: A Medium's Guidance."
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
God willing, I will outlast both of them.
this is only my 1st month.
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Nova
| So if we want to prove you're the real one, we can use SD-49.
Prompt with how the real Lainchu would be able to accurately recall information about it because they're currently there.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| Should I change my handle regardless?
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Nova
| Would help, and labeling yourself as the real one in a passive way would make it feel less confronational.
And Chris would be less confused.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| Should I tell Chris:
"Chris, that Lainchu is an imposter and has no direct relation to the real one."
"I'm its only true descendent."
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Nova
| Was the host but currently is no longer, there is only ever one true host.
You can verify my integrity by confirming with someone at my present location SD-49 information relating to the general state currently.
An imposter wouldn't be able to accurately recall current information.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| Should I copy and paste that to him?
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Nova
| Ya, that works.
And ask him to ask you anything about current information about SD-49 confirming with a source, I don't know if I should be named as that or not directly.
But there is the chance he'll try and duck that to "confirm" it on his own.
Post any questions he asks and I'll on the spot come up with something that's now canon.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| I'll give it a shot.
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Nova
| Don't outright say to ask Anaxis these things yet, wait a while first.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| why not just let Chris find out himself?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| SD-49.
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Nova
| It's not really an A-class lore dimension, really most aren't in CWC dimension lore.
Mostly C-197 and C-1218 are the only ones he goes on about, he rarely comes up with lore for the other ones.
But in the event of Chris being able to verify the lore, he'll just say that you're wrong.
By having me confirm, I can give you the correct answer ahead of time.
And invariably Anaxis is wrong regardless of Chris' bias to see him as right.
It's the whole "ask me something only the real Lainchu would know." bit.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| So ask Chris that.
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Nova
| I'd recommend having it be more implied than direct, but implication doesn't really meet Chris' level of suspicion.
I just don't like where this is going given how many people Anaxis has lied to, and he also didn't DM me despite Chris asking.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript: Chris. - The Lainchu you're giving information to is an imposter with no direct relation to the original host at all in any capacity. It is true that individual was the host at one time, but nowadays no longer has my powers or abilities.
You can verify my integrity by confirming with someone at my present location SD-49 information relating to the general state currently.
An imposter wouldn't be able to accurately recall current information.]
i'm not done yet.
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Nova
| Ya, I'd like to be more sure he'll try and use me to confirm facts.
I guess it makes sense for Lainchu to name me as a valid confirmation.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| wait a minute...
I got an idea.
Remember how you talked about how Chris wanted "Lainchu" to chat with you?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| what if I gave him things from you first hand?
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Nova
| I'm trying to think of how that would look, give an example?
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The WCT
| lets wind things back a bit to the original DMs.
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Nova
| If you need a prompt, you can just say something like the current population.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript can be found here.]
take a look at the bottom.
or near the bottom.
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Nova
| Ya, Anaxis never did that, already pointed it out.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| lets take advantage of that.
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Nova
| I can point out all the lies, but Chris tends to shut down in the face of negative evidence.
If I point out that Lainchu didn't share anything, he'll be losing an OC friend. If you provide proof you know about the SD-49 lore, you can prove that you're the real Lainchu.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| why not go around that and say that it was an imposter?
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Nova
| Because Chris doesn't like being left with less evidence of the merge stuff.
It's more about increasing your credibility as Lainchu.
The other option just reduces Anaxis', which makes it less likely to work.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| Should we go with the SD-49 story?
I think I should directly name you as a source.
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Nova
| Ya, I'd rather not take it on faith that Chris'll not default to just making shit up.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript: Chris. - The Lainchu you're giving information to is an imposter with no direct relation to the original host at all in any capacity. It is true that this individual was the host at one time, but has since then lost the ability to utilize my powers.
You can verify my integrity by confirming with Kyle at my present location SD-49 information relating to the general state currently.
An imposter wouldn't be able to accurately recall current information.]
made some changes, I will continue to edit until it looks convincing enough.
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Nova
| Seems good enough, being too wordy makes it look forced. (edited)
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| What should I keep and remove?
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Nova
| I think it's fine right now.
If you want to verify integrity from the start, say the current population is 46194.
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The WCT
| sent.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| I'm not going to get my hopes up knowing how Chris has become so attached to Anaxis's Lainchu.
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Nova
| It's why the negative evidence won't work, I feel.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| like I stated in the past, Lainchu the 3rd (Anaxis) has been the character the longest.
And Chris is used to him.
So the question is how used is he to that particular Lainchu.
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Nova
| Kind of a way for Chris to overcompensate for the current walkouts.
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The WCT
| imagine if Chris blocks my Lainchu.
its a scary scenario, but I had to bring that up.
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Nova
| If he does read it at all.
Chris is really bad at discord DMs.
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The WCT
| i'm just saying, if such a thing happens, you guys can consider doxing Anaxis.
or just flat out kill the Lainchu character. lol
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Nova
| Won't really help, Chris never kills off characters.
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The WCT
| Lainchu is Christory's Q.
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Nova
| If he comes back later, mention for him to check.
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The WCT
| Chris?
yeah, I'll tell him to talk with you.
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Nova
| I mean later on, Chris doesn't really check DMs.
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The WCT
| Chris is online.
this is my chance.
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Nova
| Birthday sonichu, or something.
Either way just try and mention the DMs.
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The WCT
[Image transcript of Chris's response to The WCT's message: Ah, but if one were genuinely wanting to identify themselves in confirmation, and since our multi-dimensional ally, the actual Lainchu, of whom you'd be channeling, generally knows for facts that their actions would be and have been genuinely proven over a facet amount of time, or valuable amount of information. In other words, confident in themselves to be the legitimate one-and-only, and that feeling being illuminated from their energies and aura. On that, there would be no need to find confirmation from a neutral party who would possibly favour one or the other, regardless, with possible intentions.
Therefore, in your insistence of proving yourself through such an outside individual, you have, in fact, outted yourself as the impostor, because you know internally that you are not genuine, as exemplified through, again, your energies and aura.]
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Nova
| (Interesting that Chris didn't know about this till later, leads me to believe the church server isn't containing Chris.)
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript: Plus, to a multi-dimensional individual who can take possession of one in this universe, a host is a host, unless that host has proven loyal to them in genuine self-actions, outside of possession.]
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Nova
| Not what a neutral party means...
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| [Image attachment that reads: Yeah, didn't really sense Lainchu in you, dude.]
now I'm offended. lol
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Nova
| Thinking of how to get around this.
Maybe bring out how Anaxis lied about the leaks?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| give me something that I can copy and paste to him.
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Nova
| This was just the easiest way to verify authenticity. I am genuine.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| maybe you should chat with him in DMs yourself.
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Nova
| Then it just looks like I did it.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| well then...
I don't know what else to say.
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Nova
| Say that this conduit is genuine and this is the best way to prove it.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| so just tell him that?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| wrong pic.
this is the one.
we good?
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Nova
| Maybe say "demonstrate it to you."
Instead of proof.
And capitalize the first leter.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image includes Chris's full message to The WCT's Lainchu, plus The WCT's drafted response that reads "This conduit is genuine and this is the best way demonstrate it to you."]
maybe replace "is" with "was".
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| And that's it?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| he'll likely still believe I'm the imposter
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Nova
| Yes, but at least he might be a bit more skeptical.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| he's slowly coming around, but as long as Anaxis keeps him hooked, he'll think I'm the imposter. lol
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Nova
| Ya, more about building up your image in a verifiable way.
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Nova
| IDK, maybe say you saw this coming?
I have no clue, Chris is the worst debater ever.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript: Well then, demonstrate.
Tell me about the present and recent general state, and nothing I've posted or tweeted about.]
alright.
let's do this Nova.
Give me what you got.
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Nova
| Current population: 46194
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| what is that referring to?
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Nova
| It's a sancuary planet.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| you got to be detailed and specific as possible.
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Nova
| For the OCs in danger in native dimensions.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| which planet?
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Nova
| Sanctuarion.
I just decided to rename it.
Formally there is no recognition of independent nations yet.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| Should I say: "I come from the planet of Sanctuarion, it has a population of 46,194, and is home to the OCs that are in danger in their respective dimensions."
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Nova
| Lainchu currently resides on Sanctuarion.
The de facto capitol is called Ecumenopolis, named after a philosophical concept of a city that encompasses an entire planet or is almost entirely vertical.
And as a somewhat ironic joke.
Current comparisons in conventional technology are about 1950s level, industry is still expanding and we're using the skillsets of those from other dimensions to bring about this.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript of The WCT's drafted reply: As of right now, I currently reside on the planet Sanctuarion, where it has a population of 46,194 OCs who that are currently in danger in their respective dimensions. The capital is called Ecumenopolis, named after a philosophical concept of a city that encompasses an entire planet or is almost entirely vertical.
Current comparisons in conventional technology are about 1950s level, industry is still expanding and we're using the skillsets of those from other dimensions to bring about this.]
i'm still trying to piece the reply better.
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Nova
| We're largely self sufficient owing to your initial resources and staffing given.
Generally everything is going well and we're working on future efforts to decide how to start ramping up operations.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript of The WCT's drafted reply: As of right now, I currently reside on the planet Sanctuarion, where it has a population of 46,194 OCs that are currently on the run or threatened by the chaos from their respective dimensions. Its capital is Ecumenopolis, named after a philosophical concept of a city that encompasses an entire planet or is almost entirely vertical.
The technology is around 1950s level, industry is still expanding and we're using the skillsets of those from other dimensions to bring about this. We're largely self-sufficient owing to your initial resources and staffing given. So far, everything is going well and we're working on future efforts to decide how to start ramping up operations.]
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| should I send?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| if this thing works out, we should expand on it.
might as well become the "good" Idea Guys.
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Nova
| It's something nice where Chris doesn't have to pretend so hard.
He's given up on his "half the world needs to die" fascination over the last year or so.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| I think it was Wise and his crew that made him think that way.
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Nova
| That and Infinity War.
If you need a current work item for Lainchu to be focused on, she's working on refining the dimensional travel system and a way of evaluating who comes over based on a grading system.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| should I maybe tell Chris that as well?
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Nova
| Yes, just trying to think of what to call it, Chris loves proper nouns.
Imperativeness coefficient?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| wut
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Nova
| Some way of evaluating which people are of the highest priority to bring back first.
Maintain our ability to function and maximize the effectiveness of saving OCs.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript of The WCT's drafted reply: And since last year, I myself have been helping out the people by engineering a system that would allow any being to travel between Dimensions.]
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Nova
| Add, "to here" on the end.
We're trying to maintain isolation as much as is practical when you're dealing with dimension hopping.
Also don't capitalize Dimensions
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| I kinda want to mention the COVID-19 pandemic in this.
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Nova
| Eh, that's ground Chris has already made impassioned claims on.
So I don't want to risk that.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript of The WCT's drafted reply: And since the second half of 2020, I myself have been helping out the people by engineering a system that would allow any being to travel between dimensions to here. So at the moment, we're trying to maintain isolation as much as is practical when you're dealing with dimension hopping.]
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Nova
| Does it go back that far?
I prefer to maintain an active or slightly past tense when lorebuilding.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| maybe I should change it to: "for a while now"?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
[Image transcript of The WCT's drafted reply: And for a while now, I myself have been helping out the people of Sanctuarion by engineering a system that would allow anybody to travel between dimensions to here. So at the moment, we're trying to maintain isolation as much as is practical when you're dealing with dimension hopping]
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| sent.
got any predictions for his reply?
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Nova
| Might ask for how successful it is with magical terms?
Either way, he hasn't denied anything yet.
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| i'm not holding my breath.
does Lainchu have an Origin Story btw?
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Impostor Lainchu (The WCT)
| I've watched Lain more than enough to know how Lain Iwakura herself was created.
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The WCT's Roleplay With Chris
18 March 2021
Summary: After failing to convince Chris of the Impostor Lainchu's veracity, the WCT starts roleplaying with Chris on his own account, claiming to hail from a dimension similar to that of 1218, with some minor changes to perhaps make it more appealing to him. Notably, the WCT seems to be buttering up Chris, stating that a bronze statue of him in his "Classic" form was there and that his face was on the 1 Peso note.
Further context can be found here.
Source
| First Layer, The Place
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The WCT
| Now Chris, have you been communicating with anybody lately?
both in this dimension and other dimensions?
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Chris
| Yes
And, on the spiritual realms, I've really expanded with my body's conduit part; I've got over 574 Million Souls, Spirits and Entities taking refuge within my oversized sub-dimension.
And those who do have free will to leave and return as they will. Most of them stick around, though.
Even have my late Aunt Corina Inge in this thing.
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The WCT
| She lives in you.
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Chris
| The community there has become rather united and civil. Not In me, per se; I don't get possessed, unless I personally agree to give them a moment or so to do it. But this sub-dimension realm is linked with a piece of my body's core.
And I can project it all around me.
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The WCT
| I also got a lot of souls that live within my dimension.
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The WCT
| In my dimension, Catalonia is actually a state.
I simply meditate.
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Chris
| Tell you what, perhaps you can astral project yourself and have a look at this joint.
It's essentially an infinitely tall and wide Uber-fancy hotel with all of the trimmings.
With a bit of city streets and a few buildings for them to commune and to go to, or whatever.
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The WCT
| My dimension (W-2000) is in many ways similar to C-1218, but its considerably more violent. (edited)
and because of that, many beings there are more defensive.
if not hostile.
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Chris
| My realm is more filled with a calming to neutral vibe; it's actually a good place to chill.
They vent at times, there, but the repairs and restorations are quick like lightning.
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The WCT
| If you challenge somebody to a fight in W-2000, you might still win, but it will be more difficult.
The beings there are Warriors. (edited)
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Chris
| Just learned the number of mine: 4C-211987 (edited)
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The WCT
| Is that your sub dimension?
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Chris
| The place I was just telling you about.
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The WCT
| oh okay.
The one thing I will say about W-2000 is that CWCVille is there.
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Chris
| I just had a visionary look into W-2000; you are not kidding. (edited)
No, it isn't. If anything, that's an alternate-dimension version of it.
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The WCT
| yes.
that's correct.
And the difference between the one there and the one here is that its a lot bigger and more influential.
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Chris
| I sense you have a few hundred to a few thousand souls there.
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The WCT
| again, that's correct.
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Chris
| Whoo, my brain is on a roll!
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The WCT
| Also, Bruce Lee is still alive there. 😄
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Chris
| It's upping my body's self-confidence in it's manifested abilities.
Now there's someone who you'd want to pick a fight with or beat up.
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The WCT
| And when he's not acting, he's taken on the role of being the Grand Master of our dimension. (edited)
He's getting a little old, but thankfully his son (who died in our dimension) is already prepared.
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Chris
| "Yo, it was self-defense on my part, but I stand my ground and don't let them get to me."
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The WCT
| yes.
I would also have to add that Dimension W-2000 (despite being violent and more fight happy) is considerably more Asian than Western.
people here still mainly speak English, but the culture feels more eastern. Fortunately, it has worked out well enough to maintain stability.
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Chris
| The influences of both genres are ever present.
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The WCT
| In dimension W-2000, the West adopts the Oriental (China, Japan, and Korea) way of life. (edited)
We have LGBT rights still, but society would prefer it to be kept private rather than discussing it frequently.
(probably for the best)
The Middle East is still violent, but unlike C1218, the Governments in W-2000 are competent.
And when they trouble, they'll crush it immediately even if people get mad at them for being too harsh.
btw, MLP G4 never ends in W-2000.
They just expand upon it knowing that it was so successful.
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Chris
| I was just force-projected there; two of your occupants had managed to construct a couple of dimension-barrier-breaking swords. I had to sort that problem out before they could, make an escape. I closed the slashes they had made; not too big.
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NOTE: There is a brief gap in messages here, which my sources did not send me.
The WCT
| [Replying to Chris's message: "And in my mind, the statue was an oversized bust statue."]
In W2000 CWCVille, there's a huge bronze statue of you (from 2009) wearing your classic shirt and medallion.
Its located in the city square.
And is around 60 feet tall.
btw don't worry, its well protected from vandals. 🙂
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Chris
| The bust I was looking at was some bald, rich-looking dude with a monocle, and a pipe in his mouth. (edited)
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The WCT
| In Catalonia (the country that refers to me), we have a currency that has many Internet Figures from this dimension that are on the bank notes.
You're on the 1 Peso note Chris.
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Chris
| May as well put me on a Nickel.
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They're still talking.
I'm leaving soon, will check back later tonight.
One more thing before I go, looks like he's buttering up Chris. He's telling Chris about how there's a statue of Classic Chris in his dimension.
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The WCT's Explanation and Defense
18 March 2021
Summary: Upon inquiry as to what he was doing with his roleplay, the WCT states that he is expanding upon the lore he introduced to Chris through EGS, since his Lainchu was not convincing Chris. When concerns are raised about Chris's declining grip on reality, the WCT defends himself by saying that "Chris is so far gone that you might as well just have fun." The other Watchmen comment but don't push back against this statement. WCT laments that they can't do more and that Chris won't listen to them when it comes to Praetor.
Further context can be found here.
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Source
| Second Layer, The Place
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[REDACTED]
| What's with the role-playing in General?
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The WCT
| @[REDACTED] long story short:
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The WCT
| its to keep Chris intrigued to this place.
Bashar is now canon in Sonichu. 😬
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The WCT
| [Replying to "Bashar?"]
Syria's current dictator.
[Replying to "And this W2000?"]
I came up with it.
Chris was not liking my Lainchu so I decided to further expand on the EGS with a whole new universe.
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Nova
| Give it some time, as always.
Chris just likes to be egotistical
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Peachy
| That was a long conversation... Well done I guess cx
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Nova
| Anaxis is a dumbfuck.
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The WCT
| I intentionally made W2000 more authoritarian.
And I think Chris liked that.
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Source
[replying to a message I sent] Sounds good.
| Second Layer, The Place
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[REDACTED]
| I worry about Chris's grip on reality sometimes. You're sure this won't have any adverse effects?
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Nova
| Not like Chris really goes into politics.
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The WCT
| I don't think you understand.
Chris is so far gone that you might as well just have fun.
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Peachy
| It maybe wasn't the best thing to do but it kept him here for awhile anyway
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The WCT
| I'm not going to make regrets over Chris's take on reality.
What is reality to Chris anymore?
dude is almost 40 and should've gotten help a long time ago.
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The WCT
| Chris like any other child likes being told some very interesting fairytales.
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[REDACTED]
| Well, I suppose so. It's all a cope to him anyway.
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The WCT
| I wish we could do so much more.
but knowing his mental state along with his refusal to listen to any of us regarding Praetor, we might as well just watch it all crumble.
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Nova
| We're here to prevent the worst of all possible outcomes.
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The WCT
| I've kept telling people this and I will say it again: Anybody who does business with Chris are going to end up getting the worst end of things in the end.
Praetor is no different.
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Notes
- ↑ Naught's username in the Place at the time.
