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""Wait, what?"" - I read the changes to Chris' blog- girlfriend?! What do we think folks- a troll, or entirely fictional? I'm inclined to go with the latter, since every time Chris even so much as has a woman not completely blow him off he is screaming it from the rooftops. Should we ask him in the mailbag if this is finally the end of his Love Quest? Is this Lovely Weather, or Chloe? So many questions! -- Ronichu (the TRUE and ORIGINAL Rosechu/Sonichu hybrid character, do not steal!)
For older conversations, see the '''archives''':


'''Archives''': [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (2009)


Mailbag 41 is up. Also, there are now a glorious Asperchu-related YouTube video embedded on the top half of the page. Nice one!
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]] (2009 - 2010)


== New Article of the now/discussion page cleanup ==
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]] (2010 - 2020)
The article of the now hasn't changed in awhile. May I choose a new one? Also, can someone clean up this discussion page?<br /><br />'''These topics are OLD and should be deleted:'''<br />Lock this page<br />Someone with move rights...<br />25 Days without an outrage my ass!<br />
== "The encyclopedia about" line ==
== Lock this page ==
I think it is about time that this page is locked so only admins can edit it.--[[User:Blachman|Blachman]] 18:59, 23 September 2009 (CEST)


*Seconded. Very seconded. [[User:LStaley416|LStaley416]] 19:01, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
Currently it reads "The encyclopedia about Christian Weston Chandler." Should we change that to read "Chris Chan" or "Christine Weston Chandler" instead? Christian hasn't been his name for years. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:27, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
*To be fair, the reason why it's unlocked is because in my opinion, I know that I'm proned to fucking shit up when I tinker with the front page and people might actually want to add something neat to the front page. I understand the concern due to recent vandalism, so if others users feel this way, then the front page will be locked. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:05, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
:My personal preference is the latter (Christine). Alternatively: "The encyclopedia about the [[Chris|author]] of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''". --[[User:Little Owl|Little Owl]] ([[User talk:Little Owl|talk]]) 04:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
*Is it possible to change the new user creation so it requires admin approval? That'd make it harder for faggots to simply sign up and vandalize the place, you could make them go through the IRC channel or something. Of course, that goes against the idea of a wiki being open to editing, but there's not really a nice way of stopping vandalism. [[User:SirCucumber|SirCucumber]] 19:27, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
::I say, focus on "Chris-Chan". Officially CWCki policy is to stick with [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|Chris's TRUE and ORIGINAL gender]], so "Christine" isn't typically used in spite of the name-change legally happening. Plus, Chris-Chan is the name that garnered the most attention anyways. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 10:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:*CWCki, as I see it, strives to be open and people should be encouraged to edit it. Going into IRC shouldn't really be a prerequisite of CWCki. Some people don't like IRC and that's fine. Frankly, we're not really in a position to restrict users. As cogs said, she's working on installing an extension which will can easily spot vandalism and reverse it instantly since Cogs, myself, and Clyde can't monitor CWCki every single second. There's some really neat stuff bots can do with MediaWiki in respect to vandalism. But anyways, any wiki is subject to vandalism, but we learn to handle it and hopefully an extensions and maybe an anti-vandalism patrol will help. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:34, 23 September 2009 (CEST)  
:"Chris Chan" would be convenient since the [[:File:CWCiki Introduction.jpg]] uses Christian, and "Chris Chan" has been a nickname for both "Christian" and "Christine". Otherwise we would need a new CWCki Intro image with "Christine" to avoid confusion. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 12:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
*well, it's only one person, and the vandalism is fairly regular. i think granting some users anti-vandalism powers and possibly installing an extension will do. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 19:43, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
::Something like this? — "The encyclopedia about [[Chris-Chan]], the author of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''". --[[User:Little Owl|Little Owl]] ([[User talk:Little Owl|talk]]) 20:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:::Okay with me. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
::Chris has been fine with being referred to as Chris post-namechange to Christine, so I think if we were to change it, Chris-Chan/Chris Chan would be the best way to do it. Most people refer to him as Chris as opposed to Christian or Christine anyway. --[[User:Abaddon|Abaddon]] ([[User talk:Abaddon|talk]]) 01:23, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:Someone on the CWCki Discord suggested linking to [[Chris Chan]] as a way to link to his different names. Thoughts? Also, should it be written with or without the hyphen? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
::I agree with Hurtful here, chris chan is a much more well known name and is normally the first thing we think of when we talk about chris. But i also think we should add a 'creator of sonichu' to the tagline too, similar to what little owl thought of. [[User:Mon1ka|Mon1ka]] ([[User talk:Mon1ka|talk]]) 4:01am, 26th of april 2021 (utc)
While we're at it, should we change the disclaimer at the bottom? It seems like a set-up for a punchline about Chris's inability to understand what does and does not qualify as "parody", since the subject of the wiki is a real person. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 06:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
:The editor who added the parody line explained his reasoning [http://cwcki.club/index.php?threads/the-cwcki.1979/#post-55098 in a CWCki Club post]. I think he has a point. Much of the narrative about Chris is framed by trolls who manipulated him. Chris Chan the Internet personality is basically a parody of Chris Chandler the person. Also many CWCki pages, especially earlier ones, tend to be heavy on the mockery. What would you have in mind to change the dislaimer to? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)


== Someone with move rights... ==
== Future of coping and begging counters ==


...plz move Main Page/Archive 1 to [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1]]. What happens in Talk: should stay in Talk:, and people who (for example) whack [[Special:Random]] should be spared from these ramblings =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 19:59, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
In light of the incest shit and Chris' eviction, do you think we still need the begging and coping counters? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 05:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
*Good point, sometimes I miss small details like that D:. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:34, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
:I think that they should probably be taken down at some point and the page should be reorganized, but not until Chris has been detained. We are approaching the end of Christory as it once was, but we're still not there just yet. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 11:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
::I've gone ahead and removed them now he's actually in custody. [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 03:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


Chris has uploaded pages 84[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Image:SchuComic9P84.jpg] and 85[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Image:SchuComic9P85.jpg] Someone with rights update kthnxbai [[User:Sandworm|Sandworm]] 00:44, 25 November 2009 (CET)
== Reorganization ==


== Streamlining ==
After taking down the counters, the page looks weirdly asymmetrical. Could we compensate for this by making each batch of DYK entries longer, or move the CWCki news section to the other side while letting Da Update be longer instead? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 08:51, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
:I think we should make the DYK batches longer, as making Da Update longer would defeat the purpose of it being a way to see all '''recent''' happenings related to CWC. Also, since I might as well bring it up here, should we add some type of counter related to Chris being arrested? Or would that be too redundant? [[User:Lez|Lez]] ([[User talk:Lez|talk]]) 11:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
::Might be worth putting up a new counter for how many days Chris has been in jail, considering he's being held without bond and he got a continence until at least November. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 18:38, 16 September 2021 (UTC)


There are a few modifications that I think the front page really needs.  Namely, there needs to be an area that links to all the general areas most important to understanding Chris, such as the comics, the videos, the troll sagas, the CWCisms, etc.  I recommend replacing the links in the "CWC Canon" with this.  Do we really need a direct link to [[How the Pokémon came into Our Poke Balls]]? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 00:00, 1 December 2009 (CET)
==Re-add the discord link==
*The thing is, those are texts directly written by Chris himself. It's like, the direct word of Chris while everything else is merely commentary. Personally, I think Chris's Wikipedia page is like the perfect introduction to hear how fucked up Chris is from Chris himself for those who are uninitiated. However, I think it might be handy to have like a "Essentials" box of key articles.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


== 25 Days Without an Outage, My Ass! ==
The discord link was disabled a little while ago, but the discord is now accepting new members again so the link being dead is not necessary, so I think it should be re-added. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 20:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
*Nvm I just figured out that i can fix it. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 21:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)


That is all. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 01:24, 11 December 2009 (CET)
==Wonky formatting==


== CWCipedia Tracker needs to be updated ==
Something is off with the formatting of the Main Page, I feel this needs to fixed as soon as possible. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 23:01, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think [[User:Good username|Good username]]'s edits to the prison counter messed something up. I'm gonna revert everything there. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 23:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
:Yep, that fixed it. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 23:08, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


The CWCipedia Tracker needs to be updated so it says thatChris answered the letters in Mailbag 24. Also, it probably should say he fell for a tranny.
==The formatting of the front page is off again==
:...Then update it.
:Also, sign your posts.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:20, 30 December 2009 (CET)
:: Done with care and just for you, dear Anonymous!!! [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:22, 30 December 2009 (CET)
:::And that is why Griffintown is a better person than me--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:44, 30 December 2009 (CET)


== Suggestions for video of the now ==
With the addition of more counters the front page is off sided once more. Does anyone have any ideas on a good way to fill the space on the right? We could always just get rid of a couple of lines on [[template:DYK|Did You Know]]. Ideas are welcome. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 17:59, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Idk if this is a good place to do this, tell me if it is or not, I'm kinda new to this wiki, and wiki's in general, but [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxdvUwhg7jg Christian Weston Chandler CWC Sonichu's confession] [[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 06:15, 3 January 2010 (CET)
:I wouldn't mind reducing the number of DYK entries per block (maybe down to 15, or 10 if that's necessary) in favor of having more entries in the randomizer. I tried fixing the formatting on the thing but I couldn't figure it out, and sometimes the template is blank. It may be worth merging the counters into one combined template, though – that might fix some of the formatting problems. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 20:51, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
*Link fixed.  Meh, seems long and tedious.  I couldn't get through it.  --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 06:42, 3 January 2010 (CET)
:I have proceeded to redistribute the DYK entries to ten entries per blocks, and merge {{tl|DYK}} and {{tl|Did you know}} back together since the latter merely called the former with a parser function. For reference, Wikipedia has eight entries. I may not be able to delete {{tl|DYK}} due to Chris having edited the template back in 2010. --[[User:Little Owl|Little Owl]] ([[User talk:Little Owl|talk]]) 22:26, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
:*It's pretty lulzy at the end. --[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 07:06, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*Another suggestion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3bvd0XIMZU--[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 22:38, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:*This was already the video of the now around 30 December or so. Also in the future, please go [[:Template talk:Video of the now|here]] to suggest videos for the Video of the now.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


==Missed Comic days==
== Jail templates ==
Should we really count the days that the CWCipedia was down against him? He couldn't upload pages, yet the situation was his damn fault anyway. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 13:11, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
:* I think we should include that as missed comic days.  It's not like he uploaded extra comics to make up for it.  --[[User:Morganna|Morganna]] 13:47, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
*I was thinking of maybe adding an asterisk next to the missing page count with note mentioning the outage time. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


==what the fuck?==
One of the jail templates should mention that Chris intends to post the info of people who contact him. Maybe in the Incarceration Counter? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
www.sonichu.com now redirects to some stupid shit about asperchu or something. isn't www.sonichu.com supposed to redirect to here?--[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 19:24, 8 January 2010 (UTC) (forgot to sign when i originally posted, sorry)
*Okay, two things. First of all, it's probably for the best. It'll help keep Chris from finding the site (if he hasn't already, that is, in the case that he has then at least he won't be able to find it anymore since the URL change) and also because Chris will be pissed if he finds out. He despises Asperchu, and the thought that it's growing bigger than Sonichu and is using him to garner popularity will probably make him tard rage. Second of all, sign your fucking posts. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 01:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
:*It really doesn't fucking matter if Chris finds CWCki or not, he probably doesn't give a shit and won't believe it. Second of all, everyone loves Asperchu, and Alec Benson Leary is doing to the Sonichu comics what Liquid did for Chris's videos. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:08, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
::*I thought the Sonichu.com redirect was fucking brilliant.  Prove to Chris that Alec Benson Leary is better than him in every possible way.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Chris already knows about the CWCki. He blanked the front page once whining about it and was promptly banned. [[User:Evang|Evang]] 06:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I thought that was a white knight.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Wasn't chris. Chris probably looked at this and thought UGH TOO MANY WORDS and quit. but yeah asperchu is the next big thing. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's the story I have heard. He said the proverbial TL;DR and left. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually Griffintwon, you're thinking of the story of when Chris found /cwc/. He couldn't even attempt to post the because there were "too many words" and the page's background hurt his eyes. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 22:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


==Okay==
== Motherfucker ==


Why the fuck isn't the main page protected? [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 05:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
The "encyclopedia about" line could use an update. How about "The premier encyclopedia on [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris Chan]], the author of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and [[Affair with Mother|literal motherfucker]]."? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
*What the fuck was with the whole "Chris-chan is dead guiz, srsly" on the front page? [[User:NasuGrave|NasuGrave]] 21:50, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
*1) because people, in theory, should be allowed to improve the main page, 2) we're getting pretty good at stopping vandalism in the race occurrences it happens. Also, to address NasuGrave, I imagine this is some faggot who thinks LULZ ROFLMAO in saying that Chris is dead and giving credit to his shitty troll persona no one gives a shit about. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**[[User:Cchandlersonichu]] here you are champ. [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 05:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***[[User:Gutcruncher]]. [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 05:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Gutcruncher looks safe, but we'll keep an eye all new accounts for a while.  Good night and good luck, all --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 06:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
I just blocked a user called "Therealccwc" out of the CWCki. I guess our vandal is out in the cold. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
== Front page vandalized. ==


Does this happen often? [[User:Fefnir|Fefnir]] 05:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:I mean, more and more people are flocking to this website from that for one thing, and this site is pretty much the most comprehensive thing about Chris there is. Even Geno's Documentary series is just a CliffNote version of the site. So I say we update it to that. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 06:07, 1 March 2022 (UTC)


*No. This faggotry is a rare occurrence. Just bear with it. [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 05:57, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
==Blanked pages==


*Yeah, I thought so. Well, It's all fixed up anyways. [[User:Fefnir|Fefnir]] 06:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Whats the deal with all the blanked pages? Is anyone else getting that when logged out? [[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 05:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)


===Page protection===
:Marvin adjusted some settings. Are things loading better now? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


I strongly avoid second guessing my fellow admins but I feel that Clyde may have reacted too strongly to the current vandalism. In theory, I think if someone wants to edit the front page, they should be allowed to do so, as people could genuinely have valid contributions. I'm protecting it for two weeks so the current vandals will probably get it's a bad idea to vandalize the CWCki by that time.<br>
::Yes they are. I think it's safe to shut off the loading news template. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 16:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
I think that front page vandalism is a rare occurrence, the last time this happened was back in October and we've been fine since then so I personally disagree with permanently protecting the front page (after all, we're not CWCipedia :3). However, if people want to talk about permanently protecting the page, let's open the discussion and I will be glad to permanently protect the page if this truly reflects the needs and wishes of the CWCki community. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
*Huh, turns out I can block new users from editing pages. I'll consult Cogs to see what constitutes a "new" user because if that's the case, I think our best option would just to block new users from editing the main page which pretty much rules out vandals.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:43, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**no you're stupid champ, no one has edited the front page to make it contain anything useful besides you [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
::*NO U. Also, you did :p. And in theory, someone could make things look cooler in ways neither you nor I could. Anyways, since I know when to pick my battles, if you have an idea for the front page, post it on this talk page. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


==Shirts==
:::Looks like it's happening again... is this an attack or just "normal" wiki issues? --[[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 17:18, 29 October 2022 (EDT)
[[User:Kynes|Kynes]] has been doing some good work on Chris's [[Chris and Fashion|shirts]], and I noticed there is some white space (well, green space) on the main page, so here's a quick little shirt tracker if anybody's interested! --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 00:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
{{Shirt of the Now
|file= Christshirt4.png
|name = Advice Dog
|date = 12 [[January 2010]]
|counter = three}}


* Yes, please. It would be interesting (in a horrifying sense, of course) to know how long his shirts have been marinating in his bodily odors and fluids before he finally decides to change his clothes a week later.--[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 14:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
== CopperCab ==


== Mailbag 41 ==
Not sure where to put this, but CopperCab privated the second part of his interview with Chris, so if anyone has a copy put it in there.


It's up already, Chris is probably going to go fucking crazy since every single one is either criticizing him or praising Asperchu. I bet he deletes 3/4's of it. [[User:Sandworm|Sandworm]] 01:52, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
== Downtime ==


==Hardlinks to Old CWCki==
Should we put a note somewhere on the Main Page on the CWCki's recent downtime and its return? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:59, 22 October 2022 (EDT)
[http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&target=http%3A%2F%2Fcogsdev.110mb.com%2Fcwcki%2F&namespace=0 Check it out]


The only hardlinks left are ones that originate in '''Template:Christory''' pages for dates that haven't been added yet.  If somebody wants to be a TRUE hero, they should start going through those templates for hardlink instances and fixing them. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 02:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
* Yeah, I think that'd be ideal. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 06:17, 22 October 2022 (EDT)


== Spanish ==
* Where would be a good place? Thinking maybe the CWCki News template or writing it directly into Main Page between the Welcome and New? boxes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:59, 22 October 2022 (EDT)


I wanna translate the pages to spanish .. how Where edit this...{{unsigned|hematofilo}}
**I was thinking just editing the downtime template for that. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 07:30, 22 October 2022 (EDT)
*For now, if you really want to translate pages to Spanish, I'd make subpages in the time being until we could work out a Spanish namespace. For instance, put your translation for [[Christian Weston Chandler]] to [[Christian Weston Chandler/Spanish]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
*What. [[User:Artiph|Artiph the Destroyer, Omniscient Archmage, bearer of the Grimoire of Destruction,  whose powers by and large surpass that of the Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 17:12, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


==Quote of the Now request==
**Sounds good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:47, 22 October 2022 (EDT)
"How old do you think I am? [[Lie|I am not an immature child]]; I am 27 years old." From [[Mailbag 45]]. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 01:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)<br>
"I have already donated a healthy sum into the funds that have exceeded $57 million." Even better. Apparently he doesn't need his monthly tugboat after all! --[[User:JM1987|JM1987]] 21:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


People, if it's a decent quote, you're welcome to update [[:Template:Quote of the now|the template]] yourself. If it sucks, I'll revert it, if not, I'll keep it. By the way JM, I think he's not saying he's donated $57 million, just that he's donated to a fund that has raised this much. Poor wording, yes, but not totally fail wording. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
== Consolidate Begging/Jesus Christ Counter ==


:*Thanks, didn't realize it was a template. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 21:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Seeing as the "Days since last begged for cash" and the "days since last claiming to be jesus" counters are identical, I think it might make sense to consolidate them. I think it would be more meaningful to simply have a counter for how many days its been since there has been any sighting/communication from Chris considering its pushing 100 days and isn't showing any signs of stopping.[[User:Penis|Penis]] ([[User talk:Penis|talk]]) 17:25, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
:We might as well replace the counter with a days since we've last heard from Chris or just have the Jesus counter; the separate counters served their purpose back when Chris was regularly writing letters and idea of Chris calming to be Jesus was still new but I agree it's not really needed anymore. Also don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes. --[[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 23:53, 24 October 2022 (EDT)
:Agree. Maybe we could go about it by removing both counters from Main Page and modifying the Incarceration one. What was the date of last communication, something from [[Praetor Jail Art]]? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 09:20, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
:I just had a thought. Perhaps a count down to the next known court appearance would add value to the front page?[[User:Penis|Penis]] ([[User talk:Penis|talk]]) 10:30, 17 March 2023 (EDT)


:*And neither did I. Also, cheers Champthom, it really is bad wording, and I was doubting Chris-chan would make even ''that'' big a lie. --[[User:JM1987|JM1987]] 00:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
== Banner for more editors ==


== Front page templates ==
Been thinking about adding a template at the top of Main Page basically saying CWCki could use more editors since there's a backlog of info to add and info is continuously being released which needs to be added into articles. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:15, 21 May 2023 (EDT)


So this page isn't clogged up with "Hay, [x] should have [y]", here are links to front page templates:
== Documentaries Section ==
*[[Template:Picture of the now]]
*[[Template:Video of the now]]
*[[Template:Quote of the now]]


Article of the now is protected, but feel free to suggest articles on the [[Template talk:Article of the now|talk page]].
Turkey Tom's Chris Chan Documentary has been out for a few weeks now and its pretty good. I think its worthy of being added to the documentaries in the "New? Start Here!" section. However, I can also see that there is limited space on that tab. Perhaps we should have a dedicated article for Chris Chan documentaries and link that? There's so many to choose from, and more get created every year at this point. [[User:Penis|Penis]] ([[User talk:Penis|talk]]) 17:33, 7 June 2023 (EDT)


If your suggestion sucks, I'll revert it, if not, I'll keep it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think a page on his video is warranted, because Chris hasn't reacted to it. As for a documentaries article, maybe the [[Christubers]] or [[Chris in the media (podcasts and vlogs)]] pages could be modified to mention those? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 18:15, 7 June 2023 (EDT)


== Removing the outage thing ==
== Readding Improvement template to Main Page ==


If there's no outage by the end of the month, I'm going to delete the outage counter from the header. It's served us well but since we have a new server, I don't think outages will be a problem anymore. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Since there are a lot of active projects, I thought the [[:Template:Improvement‎‎]] could be brought back and added to the main page again. Maybe replacing Quote of the Now since not much is happening with Chris currently (Quote can be added back in if something does happen). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:31, 15 June 2023 (EDT)


== Chris has discovered this Wiki ==
== Putting Current events into CWCki news? ==


Is that good or bad? --[[User:Ninjaclown|Ninjaclown]] 05:42, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
How would i be able to turn the Current events icon into a template, so whenever there's a new current even the latest one gets put under the empty space in the Cwcki news box? Below the text "Check out the Official CWCki Server Discord, and the section about Chris at the CWCki Club forums, and the Chris Chan subreddit, full of lively and often times thoughtful discussions on Chris and Sonichu. (Use the wiki talk pages or the CWCki-related channels in the Discord for article-related discussions)." to be specific - Cwconthedraw, 5:45 26 August 2023
 
*Depends. Do you like to be attacked in YouTube videos? If so, then it's a good thing. CWCki is just the latest in a long line of things Chris blames for his life other than himself. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 05:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 
:*This talk page should be used to discuss the improvement of the main page. Talk about CWCki goes in [[CWCki:Community Portal|here]]. I've started a discussion [[CWCki:Community_Portal#So_Chris_has_discovered_the_CWCki_.28finally.29|here]] to discuss this topic.
 
::It very well could start into a saga but good sagas are never planned. I plan on making a video to defend the honor of the CWCki and we'll see where it goes from there.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== Countdown to TROUBLE? ==
 
What do you all think of getting a timer on the front page that counts down to midnight EST tonight? And maybe after midnight passes, and we haven't all been eaten by the ghost of Patti, a timer that counts how overdue the TROUBLE is? (Or did he mean midnight of Thursday/Friday? Dammit, even his precision is imprecise!) --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 18:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*He just postponed it to the 31st, but I could put something like that in the CWCipedia Tracker. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 09:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== Replace CWCipedia Tracker with PSTripple Tracker ==
 
I think it would be more active than the CWCipedia tracker for sure... [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* Heh. One way or the other, yeah, the CWCipedia tracker has just about outlived its usefulness. I dunno if "Chris got four more trophies in Heavy Rain today" is really main page-worthy, but there might be something that could occupy the space more effectively now. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 16:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* We can go with that. At the same time, go ahead and keep the CWCipedia tracker around just in case he (*GASP*) ''decides to update!'' <sub>Pfft. Should turn it into an Asperchu tracker.</sub>--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* Whatever he does after CWCipedia, we can convert it into that. Until then, a PS3 tracker is probably more useful... --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:04, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* First, let's wait for confirmation that Chris dumping CWCipedia. There's a remote chance he'll actually come back. Until then, let's keep it around. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:58, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* Yeah- he's actually fighting to revert. I'm impressed with him. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
*Are the changes to the CWCipedia saved somehow? A timeline could be made with those dates.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 20:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 23:06, 25 August 2023

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PROTIP:

This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the Community Portal. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates. For other questions, please use Kiwi Farms.

For older conversations, see the archives:

"The encyclopedia about" line

Currently it reads "The encyclopedia about Christian Weston Chandler." Should we change that to read "Chris Chan" or "Christine Weston Chandler" instead? Christian hasn't been his name for years. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 03:27, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

My personal preference is the latter (Christine). Alternatively: "The encyclopedia about the author of Sonichu". --Little Owl (talk) 04:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
I say, focus on "Chris-Chan". Officially CWCki policy is to stick with Chris's TRUE and ORIGINAL gender, so "Christine" isn't typically used in spite of the name-change legally happening. Plus, Chris-Chan is the name that garnered the most attention anyways. KingClark (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
"Chris Chan" would be convenient since the File:CWCiki Introduction.jpg uses Christian, and "Chris Chan" has been a nickname for both "Christian" and "Christine". Otherwise we would need a new CWCki Intro image with "Christine" to avoid confusion. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 12:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Something like this? — "The encyclopedia about Chris-Chan, the author of Sonichu". --Little Owl (talk) 20:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Okay with me. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 07:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Chris has been fine with being referred to as Chris post-namechange to Christine, so I think if we were to change it, Chris-Chan/Chris Chan would be the best way to do it. Most people refer to him as Chris as opposed to Christian or Christine anyway. --Abaddon (talk) 01:23, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Someone on the CWCki Discord suggested linking to Chris Chan as a way to link to his different names. Thoughts? Also, should it be written with or without the hyphen? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 07:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
I agree with Hurtful here, chris chan is a much more well known name and is normally the first thing we think of when we talk about chris. But i also think we should add a 'creator of sonichu' to the tagline too, similar to what little owl thought of. Mon1ka (talk) 4:01am, 26th of april 2021 (utc)

While we're at it, should we change the disclaimer at the bottom? It seems like a set-up for a punchline about Chris's inability to understand what does and does not qualify as "parody", since the subject of the wiki is a real person. KingClark (talk) 06:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

The editor who added the parody line explained his reasoning in a CWCki Club post. I think he has a point. Much of the narrative about Chris is framed by trolls who manipulated him. Chris Chan the Internet personality is basically a parody of Chris Chandler the person. Also many CWCki pages, especially earlier ones, tend to be heavy on the mockery. What would you have in mind to change the dislaimer to? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 07:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Future of coping and begging counters

In light of the incest shit and Chris' eviction, do you think we still need the begging and coping counters? FokkerTISM (talk) 05:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I think that they should probably be taken down at some point and the page should be reorganized, but not until Chris has been detained. We are approaching the end of Christory as it once was, but we're still not there just yet. KingClark (talk) 11:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and removed them now he's actually in custody. FokkerTISM (talk) 03:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Reorganization

After taking down the counters, the page looks weirdly asymmetrical. Could we compensate for this by making each batch of DYK entries longer, or move the CWCki news section to the other side while letting Da Update be longer instead? KingClark (talk) 08:51, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

I think we should make the DYK batches longer, as making Da Update longer would defeat the purpose of it being a way to see all recent happenings related to CWC. Also, since I might as well bring it up here, should we add some type of counter related to Chris being arrested? Or would that be too redundant? Lez (talk) 11:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Might be worth putting up a new counter for how many days Chris has been in jail, considering he's being held without bond and he got a continence until at least November. --Holdek (talk) 18:38, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Re-add the discord link

The discord link was disabled a little while ago, but the discord is now accepting new members again so the link being dead is not necessary, so I think it should be re-added. Good username (talk) 20:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Nvm I just figured out that i can fix it. Good username (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Wonky formatting

Something is off with the formatting of the Main Page, I feel this needs to fixed as soon as possible. PsychoNerd (talk) 23:01, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

I think Good username's edits to the prison counter messed something up. I'm gonna revert everything there. --4CentUser (talk) 23:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Yep, that fixed it. --4CentUser (talk) 23:08, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

The formatting of the front page is off again

With the addition of more counters the front page is off sided once more. Does anyone have any ideas on a good way to fill the space on the right? We could always just get rid of a couple of lines on Did You Know. Ideas are welcome. Good username (talk) 17:59, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind reducing the number of DYK entries per block (maybe down to 15, or 10 if that's necessary) in favor of having more entries in the randomizer. I tried fixing the formatting on the thing but I couldn't figure it out, and sometimes the template is blank. It may be worth merging the counters into one combined template, though – that might fix some of the formatting problems. KingClark (talk) 20:51, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
I have proceeded to redistribute the DYK entries to ten entries per blocks, and merge {{DYK}} (Usage) and {{Did you know}} (Usage) back together since the latter merely called the former with a parser function. For reference, Wikipedia has eight entries. I may not be able to delete {{DYK}} (Usage) due to Chris having edited the template back in 2010. --Little Owl (talk) 22:26, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Jail templates

One of the jail templates should mention that Chris intends to post the info of people who contact him. Maybe in the Incarceration Counter? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 23:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Motherfucker

The "encyclopedia about" line could use an update. How about "The premier encyclopedia on Chris Chan, the author of Sonichu and literal motherfucker."? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 05:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I mean, more and more people are flocking to this website from that for one thing, and this site is pretty much the most comprehensive thing about Chris there is. Even Geno's Documentary series is just a CliffNote version of the site. So I say we update it to that. Psycho (talk) 06:07, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Blanked pages

Whats the deal with all the blanked pages? Is anyone else getting that when logged out? Finnegan (talk) 05:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Marvin adjusted some settings. Are things loading better now? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 16:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Yes they are. I think it's safe to shut off the loading news template. Psycho (talk) 16:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Looks like it's happening again... is this an attack or just "normal" wiki issues? --Finnegan (talk) 17:18, 29 October 2022 (EDT)

CopperCab

Not sure where to put this, but CopperCab privated the second part of his interview with Chris, so if anyone has a copy put it in there.

Downtime

Should we put a note somewhere on the Main Page on the CWCki's recent downtime and its return? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 00:59, 22 October 2022 (EDT)

  • Yeah, I think that'd be ideal. Psycho (talk) 06:17, 22 October 2022 (EDT)
  • Where would be a good place? Thinking maybe the CWCki News template or writing it directly into Main Page between the Welcome and New? boxes. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 06:59, 22 October 2022 (EDT)
    • I was thinking just editing the downtime template for that. Psycho (talk) 07:30, 22 October 2022 (EDT)

Consolidate Begging/Jesus Christ Counter

Seeing as the "Days since last begged for cash" and the "days since last claiming to be jesus" counters are identical, I think it might make sense to consolidate them. I think it would be more meaningful to simply have a counter for how many days its been since there has been any sighting/communication from Chris considering its pushing 100 days and isn't showing any signs of stopping.Penis (talk) 17:25, 25 October 2022 (EDT)

We might as well replace the counter with a days since we've last heard from Chris or just have the Jesus counter; the separate counters served their purpose back when Chris was regularly writing letters and idea of Chris calming to be Jesus was still new but I agree it's not really needed anymore. Also don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes. --Finnegan (talk) 23:53, 24 October 2022 (EDT)
Agree. Maybe we could go about it by removing both counters from Main Page and modifying the Incarceration one. What was the date of last communication, something from Praetor Jail Art? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 09:20, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
I just had a thought. Perhaps a count down to the next known court appearance would add value to the front page?Penis (talk) 10:30, 17 March 2023 (EDT)

Been thinking about adding a template at the top of Main Page basically saying CWCki could use more editors since there's a backlog of info to add and info is continuously being released which needs to be added into articles. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 17:15, 21 May 2023 (EDT)

Documentaries Section

Turkey Tom's Chris Chan Documentary has been out for a few weeks now and its pretty good. I think its worthy of being added to the documentaries in the "New? Start Here!" section. However, I can also see that there is limited space on that tab. Perhaps we should have a dedicated article for Chris Chan documentaries and link that? There's so many to choose from, and more get created every year at this point. Penis (talk) 17:33, 7 June 2023 (EDT)

I don't think a page on his video is warranted, because Chris hasn't reacted to it. As for a documentaries article, maybe the Christubers or Chris in the media (podcasts and vlogs) pages could be modified to mention those? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2023 (EDT)

Readding Improvement template to Main Page

Since there are a lot of active projects, I thought the Template:Improvement‎‎ could be brought back and added to the main page again. Maybe replacing Quote of the Now since not much is happening with Chris currently (Quote can be added back in if something does happen). Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 17:31, 15 June 2023 (EDT)

Putting Current events into CWCki news?

How would i be able to turn the Current events icon into a template, so whenever there's a new current even the latest one gets put under the empty space in the Cwcki news box? Below the text "Check out the Official CWCki Server Discord, and the section about Chris at the CWCki Club forums, and the Chris Chan subreddit, full of lively and often times thoughtful discussions on Chris and Sonichu. (Use the wiki talk pages or the CWCki-related channels in the Discord for article-related discussions)." to be specific - Cwconthedraw, 5:45 26 August 2023