Knights Chats - Incest Drama

First Incest Call Leaks

30 July 2021

Anaxis's summary

I share with the Knights the first leaked audio in which Chris admits to having had sex with his mother, expressing a hesitant hope that it's fake. The WCT immediately asserts that it definitely is fake, and would share it with Chris for his amusement. Another Knight expresses doubts and suggests that Chris make a statement addressing the audio, despite skepticism over whether Chris really would have sex with Barb. WCT and the Fool both acknowledge that the audio had been heavily edited, and I address that this is true, but the audio was still of Chris's real voice. I post the nine-minute version of the audio, which included Chris talking with an unknown individual about sex acts with Barb. Silvia suggests that the previously-mentioned "lady friend" was actually referring to Barb, which we both hope is not the case. I note that someone named "Fiona" is mentioned in the call (the real name of the Suitress, as we would later find out), and could be the identity of the "lady friend." I begin sharing transcripts of the call that were being created by users on the CWCki Server. I post a screenshot of Null talking about his theories about what is going on, one being that the audio is old and from the Joshua Wise days. Silvia inquires about this, and I clarify that Null is talking about the past coercion of the Idea Guys, and the audio might be a result of that. I post another screenshot of Null explaining a theory that Chris is trying to cover something up with a really bad lie, and ask about its likelihood. The mention of a convention by Chris in the audio makes us wonder if there was a convention that occurred during the Idea Guys saga that he was referring to, as opposed to the then-upcoming Everfree Northwest convention.

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NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation. Lainchu (Anaxis) 02:31 AM This is definitely fake...right? [Defunct YouTube link to "Chris Chan Admits to having sex with his Mother" by EllDudeRocks] Spliced audio? https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ouel67/more_barb_x_chris_leaks_from_the_trolls/ This could be much more easily fabricated The WCT 02:38 AM I smell bullshit. lel Lainchu (Anaxis) 02:41 AM Any of the audio sound familiar? The WCT 02:47 AM [Replying to "Any of the audio sound familiar?"] it sounds like it was recorded last year or so. yeah, this is fake. I'll ask Chris about this i'm sure he'll get a good chuckle. [REDACTED] 04:30 AM Would it be good to get Chris to make a public statement about it? The WCT 04:45 AM [Replying to "Would it be good to get Chris to make a public statement about it?"] I’d just ask him. If nobody cares, he won’t need to make a statement. [REDACTED] 04:46 AM News of it's spreading like wildfire. The Fool 04:46 AM it's real, my uncle works for chris-chan he knows [2 sonichuthink reactions] also chris making a public statement about it would at best do nothing and at worst make people think they're more legit [REDACTED] 04:49 AM I'm skeptical that he'd fuck Barb. But is there any evidence of the call being faked? The WCT 04:49 AM Obviously. If you hear it, it’s clearly edited. lol Silvia 04:50 AM I know he said he had erotic thoughts of barb(?) The Fool 04:50 AM yeah this is painfully spliced The WCT 04:50 AM Some major gay ops by shitty trolls are taking place. Silvia 04:50 AM I may be wrong. The Fool 04:51 AM no he outright said roleplaying as magichan that barb was his "guilty pleasure" waifu Silvia 04:51 AM Ohhhhh The Fool 04:51 AM he absolutely has lowkey incest thoughts but I doubt he'd ever fuck barb what a convenient excuse his words themselves sound pretty spliced in general Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:06 AM It's definitely Chris's real voice Only question is, how much of it was edited? The WCT 05:16 AM A good chunk of it to cause confusion. I’ll ask Chris tomorrow about the call. Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:16 AM [Download link for the nine-minute version of the incest call.] The full clip has been released Haven't gotten a chance to listen to it all the way through, but it doesn't sound good Could be more out of context weirdness, but... https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discussing-chris-leaked-audio.96523/ Silvia 05:20 AM Could that be the lady friend Chris was talking about? Maybe why they wouldn’t say her name Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:20 AM Barb as the lady friend? Silvia 05:20 AM Yea…. Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:20 AM magichan Silvia 05:21 AM I hope not. Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:21 AM Someone named Fiona is mentioned in the call Silvia 05:21 AM Fiona? Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:21 AM That's what people are saying Could be the name of the lady friend Silvia 05:22 AM I’ll give it a listen myself. Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:22 AM The girl he was talking to apparently said that he was dating "Fiona" and asked if Barb was okay with it I'm lifting transcriptions from users on cwcki server, it's going nuts over there one minute into the call: Chris: Um, yeah, so she’s got really- [‘’unintelligible’’] g-bot- g-spot, cuz apparently I don’t believe her- I don’t believe he- Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands- they haven’t really reached in her g-spot with their dicks. Woman: [‘’terrible audio quality’’] Right. Right. Chris: They haven’t- they haven’t ha- they were focused on pleasuring [‘’woman coughs’’] themselves really, as opposed to focusing on her, which that’s my focus. Woman: Right [‘’unintelligible’’] yeah, true- um, before- like, the convention, be sure to have- uh, a lot of fun wi- make sure to have a- push [‘’censored’’] fun with her, right? Because, um- Chris: Obviously. Woman: Yeah, because now you’re doing this for your mom- yeah, ju- make sure- I’ll be there- I’ll be there watching you guys making sure that nobody is tryna’- [‘’cough’’]- sorry, my throat- nobody’s tryna’ hurt you or do anything, I’ll take photos of you two- a dance would be awesome. We could take turns, I’d like to dance with her too- Chris: Yeah. Woman: And then you guys could take the slow dance. Who is the mystery caller? Silvia 05:24 AM Obviously a troll Maybe someone we knew I was thinking Meghan or the pickchu girl. But then again that’s all the girls I know. Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:26 AM [Screenshot of a post by Null on Kiwi Farms, positing his theories about what's going on.] Silvia 05:27 AM https://tenor.com/view/shrug-jakethedog-adventuretime-idunno-idk-gif-7391243 The Joshua wise days? Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:28 AM Idea Guy influences Leftovers from that era Silvia 05:28 AM Ohhhh The cwcki still down so I couldn’t look it up Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:35 AM They influenced him to say a bunch of weird shit and permanently affect his comic They're basically the reason he is the way he is today With all the goddess delusions Silvia 05:36 AM Ahhhh makes sense. I vaguely remember the talk about how they made him believe he’s trans and a cpu correct. From the neptunia games Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:36 AM Nah, trans was before the idea guys. Neptunia was their doing, tho [Screenshot of a post by Null on Kiwi Farms, explaining his theory that Chris is trying to cover something up with a really bad lie.] You suppose this is the opposite of the shecameforcwc situation? He's lying about Barb to cover up the existence of his lady friend? Silvia 05:37 AM ????? Please explain Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:37 AM MINUTE TWO: Chris: My mom and all the other uh- [‘’unintelligible’’] Woman: Yeah. Chris: [‘’unintelligible’’] before the convention as well. Woman: Right. Well, how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there’s been a lot of societal pressure on you about, like, um- this thing with Barbra. A lot of societal pressure, a lot of people- you know- consciously- who would ju- like, who would judge, and you know there’s a lot of eyes on you. That must be very stressful. Chris: Yeah, it is. Woman: Yeah, I can imagine. Chris: [‘’unintelligible’’] Woman: I’m so sorry about all that stuff. Yeah. Chris: Well, still, bu- [‘’unintelligible over the woman’s coughs’’] we’ll still have Magi-Chan and [‘’unintelligible. Cryztel?’’] to dance with. Woman: You’ll always have them [‘’unintelligible’’] Chris: [‘’unintelligible’’]- incest fan-fics coming true and shit. Woman: I didn’t even know there was such a thing. I didn’t even know there was incest fan-fics. Were they about you and Barbra, I can’t believe that. I didn’t even think that- I- I knew that you guys had a good relationship, but I always thought that- cuz I’m not huge on Christory, and you know, whatever- I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that’s how I- um, got into you. Silvia 05:38 AM This is so weird. How they mention convention. This upcoming convention? Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:39 AM Idk, maybe there was one that lined up with the idea guys saga? I'd look it up, but obviously can't because the cwcki is down Silvia 05:40 AM Wait when was the idea guys doing their thing. Bc I go to pony cons and can see which ones were in the year Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:40 AM 2017-2018 Silvia 05:40 AM Ok so not bronycon 2019 [REDACTED] 05:40 AM Magfest was during the IG saga. Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:41 AM I know chris went to one soon after the idea guys because there's a picture of him at one in the gopnik outfit Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:41 AM [Replying to "Magfest was during the IG saga."] What do you think about the theory that he's covering his ass about the lady friend in the worst possible way? Although, wasn't she mentioned? Unless Fiona is someone else? This whole thing gives me a headache lol Silvia 05:42 AM Is barbs middle name Fiona? Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:42 AM No, it's Anne Silvia 05:42 AM Ok Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:43 AM Nobody in Chris's family/life has the name Fiona Until now Silvia 05:44 AM Hmmm……I’d say check the phone records to see if Christine had any recent phone calls But idk if that’s possible. I’d feel like that would be wrong Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:46 AM What would be? Silvia 05:46 AM If we asked for phone records Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:46 AM Oh That would imply that we don't trust him at his word Silvia 05:47 AM Yea that’s why I said never mind Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:47 AM Also, he wouldn't even tell us the name of his lady friend Silvia 05:47 AM Exactly that raises red flags in my brain. [REDACTED] 05:49 AM It's all really strange. I don't think Chris would be that dumb to cover it up with screwing his mom. Silvia 05:50 AM No but it’s also a immoral thing to do. So maybe shame Kids make up stories to hide sweets from their parents Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:51 AM [Replying to "It's all really strange. I don't think Chris would be that dumb to cover it up with screwing his mom."] Wouldn't be the first time he covers up something dumb with something even dumber (edited) MINUTE THREEEEE: Woman: But I had- I had- I didn’t have any idea that Barbra was- um- that Barbra and you had a sexual relationship, I never got any of those vibes. But- um, how did you approach her? Chris: I approached her with care and caution. Woman: [‘’weird sound, it can be presumed she starts masturbating at this moment’’] Chris: And it was a- it was a timed approach, so I just gave her comfort and talked with her and just branched out slow and steady and then I- then I encourage- encouraged her positively and let her make the first move cuz she wanted to do it- Woman: Oh she did? Really, she made the first move? Chris: Yeah. Woman: [‘’in a tone denoting that she derives some sort of sick sexual pleasure from that information’’] Oh. Oh ‘’really?’’ Wowww, Barbra! [‘’laughs’’] How- how did she do it if you don’t mind me asking- what was the first move? Chris: Ugh, uuuh, I don’t remember exactly. Um. Well that was her move but my approach was… I forgot Silvia 05:53 AM This is like a fever dream Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:54 AM You're telling me Silvia 05:55 AM Wait so the woman is getting off on this? Lainchu (Anaxis) 05:56 AM That's the transcriber's interpretation Silvia 05:58 AM Oh ok I was about to say Lainchu (Anaxis) 06:04 AM MINUTE FOUR: Chris: I forgot exactly what ter- what terminology of the approach I used, right. I approached with care and caution. Woman: That’s good. Chris: Then I was mostly- then I was directly upfront with her for the most part. Woman: That’s good. And how did she respond when you- um, when you approached her. What’d she say? Chris: I don’t- I don’t remember exactly what she said, but it was kinda- it was- I think she was partially confused at one point, but- but then she came around obviously- with more approaching- with more approaching her that I was doing along the way. Woman: Right. So she- so she got into it. How was- how was the first kiss- [‘’presumably masturbates furiously at the thought’’] when you kissed her, how did that feel- having known this woman for your whole life- how did that feel? Chris: Oh yeah, I mean it was simple- uhh, lip- lip-lock, lip-to-lip kiss contact. But yeah, actually it felt right. Transcriber is having fun with it Silvia 06:05 AM Oh Jheez

The WCT Interrogates Bella

30 July 2021

Anaxis's summary

WCT interrogates Bella in DMs over her involvement in the leaked calls and shares their messages with the rest of us. Bella (in very poor grammar and spelling) immediately blames two other individuals for "hacking" Chris's Internet, which WCT and the Fool privately call bullshit on. WCT keeps asking her questions but Bella continues to give him the runaround, stating that Chris had raped his mother and condemning WCT for "supporting" him. Bella insists that WCT make a group chat so that she can explain everything, and he obliges, adding me, the Fool, Para, Silvia, and himself into it along with Bella.

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See also: The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#The WCT questions Bella NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation. The WCT 06:22 PM Bella is talking to me right now. she's explaining. Lainchu (Anaxis) 06:23 PM You recording? The WCT 06:24 PM screenshots. The Fool 06:24 PM what Lainchu (Anaxis) 06:25 PM ??? Hackers? The Fool 06:25 PM I can barely understand what she wrote but that sounds like bullshit The WCT 06:25 PM I don't buy this. The Fool 06:26 PM I've never in my life heard someone working for an ISP "hacking your modem" there's not even a reason to do that intercept the packets at the provider's servers if you work there ask her to clarify The WCT 06:32 PM The Fool 06:32 PM unless she just doesn't understand the technical details of whoever is telling her that stuff, she's lying I hope that oswald guy replaced his blinker fluid before he hacked that modem Lainchu (Anaxis) 06:36 PM Who is Avery Oswald? The Fool 06:36 PM I'm going to guess made-up The WCT 06:37 PM [Replying to "Who is Avery Oswald?"] [Mugshot of Lee Harvey Oswald.] Lainchu (Anaxis) 06:38 PM Wrong guy The WCT 06:39 PM [Replying to "Wrong guy"] i'm just joking. lol The Fool 06:39 PM why don't you ask her to just be honest and that you don't really give a shit who did what anyway The WCT 06:41 PM Para 06:41 PM ask them for the video The WCT 06:42 PM Silvia 06:46 PM She’s being a little bitch dangling the answer in front of your face. The WCT 06:46 PM [Replying to "She’s being a little bitch dangling the answer in front of your face."] oh I forgot you. give me a sec. At this point, The WCT had created the group chat "Regarding Chris" and invited Bella and everyone participating in this conversation to it.

Reacting to Bella's Lies in Regarding Chris

30 July 2021

Anaxis's summary

Having listened to Bella in the "Regarding Chris" group chat, I express my doubts about how truthful Bella is being, noting that she claimed Snoo was not the same person as Fiona, which contradicted Chris's claim. The Fool states his inclination to believe her more now, though I point out that we're taking Bella's word on everything without further evidence. NOTE: Context for these reactions can be found here and here.

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NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation. Lainchu (Anaxis) 07:08 PM So... I'm confused. Chris confirmed that Snoo is Fiona but Bella thinks they aren't the same person? How much do you think of what she's saying is true? A lot of it sounds a bit fanciful, even for Chris. The Fool 07:14 PM I'm inclined to believe it now, especially because he says it's "completely mutual", I'm sure as fuck it was not he probably was threatening her and interpreted her compliance with mutuality Lainchu (Anaxis) 07:15 PM Well, we're taking it at her word without any additional evidence The Fool 07:15 PM she sounds pretty mad about it Lainchu (Anaxis) 07:15 PM True Lainchu (Anaxis) 07:28 PM Really not sure what to make of all this The Fool 07:29 PM chris fucked his mom and then told people about it the end Lainchu (Anaxis) 07:29 PM I guess that's the short version The Fool 07:30 PM I'll have catharsis after knowing what state barb is in

The WCT on Leaking

30 July 2021

Anaxis's summary

After the group interrogation of Bella is finished for the night, WCT shares a tweet by GiBi where he states that Chris had confessed to having sex with Barb to an ex-Watchman and to Dillin Thomas, and that the public should accept what happened. I ask if we should share what we know considering all that has happened, and WCT states that he intends on doing more leaks if Chris is arrested and charged for incest. I ask who the ex-Watchman GiBi referred to was, and WCT states that it was himself.

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NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation. The WCT 08:11 PM [A tweet by GiBi that reads: An hour and a half ago Chris confessed his guilt to an ex member of the watchmen. He also confessed to Dillin Thomas when asked. I think it's time we accept what happened.] Silvia 08:12 PM I thought we didn’t like Dillin The WCT 08:14 PM yeah but Dilin blew the whistle. Silvia 08:14 PM Ahhh Well I wil say this. He’s never gonna be allowed in another con again Lainchu (Anaxis) 08:18 PM [Replying to "yeah but Dilin blew the whistle."] Should we? I know chris trusts us, but...this is really fucked The WCT 08:18 PM Here's what I'll do: if we get word that Chris has been arrested or charged for incest, I intend on leaking. Lainchu (Anaxis) 08:19 PM [Replying to "https://twitter.com/GiBi_Devon/status/1421261183840145409"] Who was the ex member? The WCT 08:19 PM [Replying to "Who was the ex member?"] me. Lainchu (Anaxis) 08:19 PM Ah Lainchu (Anaxis) 08:19 PM [Replying to "if we get word that Chris has been arrested or charged for incest, I intend on leaking."] Makes sense I guess. Although he already admitted it to your face. The Fool 08:19 PM oh god yeah, I'd be shocked if any con let him in now, lol he's gonna be so mad about that Lainchu (Anaxis) 08:20 PM More than anything else probably

Next Actions and Bella's "Info"

31 July 2021

Anaxis's summary

The Fool questions the fate of the Knights should Chris turn out to be guilty, and then he and Para both express their utter disbelief over the events that had transpired. Having resumed interrogating Bella, who at this point had claimed Chris was withholding food from Barb and did "BDSM stuff" with her, Para asks WCT if he is going to release that information, which the Fool cautions against since there was no proof, only Bella's claims. He then comments on why she would stay on the call for 4 hours (as she claimed).

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NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation. The Fool 08:01 AM Bella's not getting shit lol Silvia 08:01 AM ???? The Fool 08:01 AM but it's funny how josh's optics are even worse now The Fool 09:17 AM so boys (and emily) what do we do if chris is guilty disband? Silvia 09:17 AM I have no clue. The Fool 09:18 AM I honestly never expected chris to be a criminal, always thought we'd get the homeless saga which, I guess we are, just, it's not as innocent Para 09:45 AM i cant believe he can even get a boner for his mom its an achievement The Fool 09:51 AM I still can't process this and it's honestly kind of dumb like I don't feel like it's genuinely hit me yet Para 09:53 AM suffer [Another meme of Chris and Barb that implies the sex was nonconsensual.] The Fool 09:54 AM it really is unreal Para 09:56 AM are you going to release info on what bella told us? @Neko she said chris tied up barb and all that bdsm stuff do you believe that The Fool 09:57 AM I think she was making assumptions/paraphrasing, she quoted specifically what chris said after that and she just said that he fucked barb and then later said he had to take her to a back doctor Para 09:58 AM yeah but what about withholding food unless she sucked his dick The Fool 10:01 AM we can quote bella but I don't think we should treat that as fact until we like, get more info. I mean I totally believe it, we should just not work on baseless gossip if we're publishing this shit to the cwcki and stuff Para 10:02 AM bella seemed stressed because she didnt realize what she was getting herself into dumb bitch The Fool 10:04 AM I have no idea why she even stayed in that call for 4 hours lol I legit would have bailed I wouldn't even have talked to chris I just would have hung up >hey bella what did you do today >oh you know just listened to a man talk about raping his mom for four hours, the usual I tell you man chess players are an extra level of fucked up

Null Cuts Off Chris, The WCT & Chris Discuss Bella

31 July 2021

Anaxis's summary

The Fool shares a Tweet with screenshots of a post by Null on Kiwi Farms, where he talks about Chris taking money out of Barb's account for his own benefit, which was an apparent violation of his EPO, causing Null to finally block Chris. The Fool wonders what will happen next, and I express incredulity over even Null cutting Chris off. WCT shares more DMs he had with Chris, where they talk about Bella and how Chris was too trusting of her, and Chris lamenting his aunt and uncle turning him away from their home. WCT also reiterates his intention to leak more information if Chris is charged with incest.

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NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation. The Fool 10:58 AM [A tweet that reads "So the Chris Chan thing, turns out he took his mother's money a few hours ago as well.😐" with attached screenshots of Null's post summarizing the situation on Kiwi Farms, and Null's last DMs with Chris before blocking and reporting him.] well, now it's even worse also lol I think josh blocked chris The Fool 11:18 AM I wonder what kat's gonna do about all this I'm not so sure I want to talk to chris anymore now either lol I mean there's entertainment and then there's just, this sick shit but god I can't believe josh blocked chris Lainchu (Anaxis) 01:21 PM If even Josh cut chris off at this point... The WCT 01:40 PM [Screenshot of a message from Chris to WCT, summarizing his night in the hotel and speaking about Bella.] @everyone to anybody wondering: I plan on leaking the information in the event that Chris is charged for the crime that he committed. (edited) The WCT 03:28 PM [A tweet by GiBi reading "Re Null: the "50s" age woman Chris told null he was sleeping with was barb. He was loose with the truth so that null didn't get suspicious."] [Continuation of the conversation between WCT and Chris in DMs, with WCT agreeing with Null's assertion that Chris is too trusting of women and Chris lamenting the situation with his aunt and uncle.] [Continuation of the same conversation.]

WCT Speaks to Lavenderbonez, Chats Between Bella and Fiona

31 July - 1 August 2021

Anaxis's summary

A member of the Knights server who is also in the CWCki Server manages to acquire the account information of Lavenderbonez, a user who had spoken to Snoo/the Suitress about the leaked incest call, and passes it on to WCT since he was still involved with Chris, stating that Lavenderbonez had claimed there was a 3 hour version of the call (similarly to Bella). WCT states that he would talk to her. Hours later, WCT posts leaked chats between Bella and the Suitress, of the two of them gossiping over the supposed things Barb and Chris did to each other (most of which is unverified). It's implied, though not confirmed, that WCT received these chats from Lavenderbonez. I ask for opinions on who leaked the call, and WCT states that Lavenderbonez claimed it was Bella. I inquire about Lavenderbonez's relationship to Bella and the Suitress, and she apparently denies any relation to them, making me then question how she has the information she has. Para states that it's because all of the individuals involved are afraid of getting in trouble or getting attention, and don't want credit for their "wrongdoing," pointing out how selective Bella is when it comes to the information she releases. WCT states that he will ask Lavenderbonez about her connection to Bella and the Suitress, but never gets back to us with the answer.

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NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation. 31 July 2021 [REDACTED] 09:49 PM one of the [CWCki Server] users provided me with the @ to the lavenderbonez person and said she wants to talk and claimed there's a 3 hour clip of the audio so I took this to Neko since I know he was still around the cwc scene and here we are The WCT 10:05 PM [Replying to "so I took this to Neko since I know he was still around the cwc scene"] I will talk to her after she's done with her shift. (edited) [...]