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| | This page contains chats from the [[Watchmen]] Discord server [[The Knights of CWC]] during [[July 2021]], with commentary from [[Anaxis]].<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The Knights of CWC Chats]]</ref> |
| This page contains chats from the [[Watchmen]] Discord server [[The Knights of CWC]] during [[July 2021]]. | |
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| Chris's posts are in blue and the Watchmen's in various colors. | | Chris's posts are in blue and the Watchmen's in various colors. |
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| ==First Layer chats==
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| Chris, the [[Watchmen]], and the Watchmen's [[untrusted guest]]s chatted in this layer.
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| ==Second Layer chats==
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| The section covers chats from the [[second layer]] of the [[Watchmen]]'s Discord server [[The Place]].
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| ===Commentary on the Watchmen's Behavior in the Taser Discussion=== | | ===Commentary on the Watchmen's Behavior in the Taser Discussion=== |
| 1 July 2021 | | 1 July 2021 |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Silvia inquires about the Watchmen's behavior in the [[Taser Discussion]] with Praetor, pointing out how scattershot their discussion was. WCT talks about it with her, stating that while both sides were bad, the Watchmen were worse and had no plan. He states that Praetor was a "necessary evil" who did spur Chris into doing something productive, and that he would allow anyone wanting to do business with Chris as long as they aren't doing anything illegal. WCT then speaks more about his philosophy of non-interference, then discussion turns to further bashing of the other Watchmen who stayed loyal to Naught.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|Silvia inquires about the Watchmen's behavior in the [[Taser Discussion]] with Praetor, pointing out how scattershot their discussion was. WCT talks about it with her, stating that while both sides were bad, the Watchmen were worse and had no plan. He states that Praetor was a "necessary evil" who did spur Chris into doing something productive, and that he would allow anyone wanting to do business with Chris as long as they aren't doing anything illegal. WCT then speaks more about his philosophy of non-interference, then discussion turns to further bashing of the other Watchmen who stayed loyal to Naught.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The Fool shares some information from within the Place, first showcasing Nova's long commentary on Chris's tweets, then continuing to play dumb with the Watchmen while giving MKR advice on how to win Chris back. He later shares text messages sent between MKR and Chris, where MKR follows the Fool's advice and tries to guilt Chris, but he refuses her attempts in response.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The Fool shares some information from within the Place, first showcasing Nova's long commentary on Chris's tweets, then continuing to play dumb with the Watchmen while giving MKR advice on how to win Chris back. He later shares text messages sent between MKR and Chris, where MKR follows the Fool's advice and tries to guilt Chris, but he refuses her attempts in response. |
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| Meanwhile, WCT asks for feedback on a Kiwi Farms post he is drafting, wherein he explains that he is not working with Praetor and that Nova and MKR are attempting to manipulate public opinion against him in order to get Chris to come back. I advise him to stay out of the spotlight, and he asks if I've written anything about the Watchmen's breakup for the CWCki, to which I tell him I can't because of periodic downtime. He then spends the rest of the conversation bashing the "Toxic Trio" with the Fool and Silvia. | | Meanwhile, WCT asks for feedback on a Kiwi Farms post he is drafting, wherein he explains that he is not working with Praetor and that Nova and MKR are attempting to manipulate public opinion against him in order to get Chris to come back. I advise him to stay out of the spotlight, and he asks if I've written anything about the Watchmen's breakup for the CWCki, to which I tell him I can't because of periodic downtime. He then spends the rest of the conversation bashing the "Toxic Trio" with the Fool and Silvia.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The Fool posts comments by Nova and MKR where they state that WCT has lied to Chris and has said worse things than they had, and that they could probably find evidence of that in the Place. WCT then asks if he should just be honest with Chris, and shares the uncut VC he had with Chris where he talks about Naught's behavior, noting his confidence that he has convinced Chris to follow him due to "tell[ing] him everything."
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The Fool posts comments by Nova and MKR where they state that WCT has lied to Chris and has said worse things than they had, and that they could probably find evidence of that in the Place. WCT then asks if he should just be honest with Chris, and shares the uncut VC he had with Chris where he talks about Naught's behavior, noting his confidence that he has convinced Chris to follow him due to "tell[ing] him everything."}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The Fool shares more text messages between MKR and Chris that the former posted in the Place, and that he attempted to give MKR advice on what to say to Chris (knowing that it wouldn't work). WCT expresses disbelief at her desperation, and both he and the Fool mock her for it. Para asks why the Watchmen want Chris, and WCT and the Fool respond that it comes down to their insecurity.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The Fool shares more text messages between MKR and Chris that the former posted in the Place, and that he attempted to give MKR advice on what to say to Chris (knowing that it wouldn't work). WCT expresses disbelief at her desperation, and both he and the Fool mock her for it. Para asks why the Watchmen want Chris, and WCT and the Fool respond that it comes down to their insecurity. |
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| The Fool then continues sharing more schemes by Nova and MKR, with WCT condemning their decision to stay with Naught, and Para argues against his reasoning. Silvia later joins the conversation, where WCT and the Fool summarize their feelings about the situation to her. | | The Fool then continues sharing more schemes by Nova and MKR, with WCT condemning their decision to stay with Naught, and Para argues against his reasoning. Silvia later joins the conversation, where WCT and the Fool summarize their feelings about the situation to her.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> WCT reflects on the Watchmen drama and his dox, as well as his plans going forward when it comes to his online presence. He later brags about how good his relationship is with Chris and how happy Chris currently is. Para and Silvia then have a discussion about the state of Chris's life and his happiness, which then transitions into WCT comparing [[CWCville]] to {{w|Afghanistan}} by stating that he's the real leader while Chris is a figurehead. He then seems to compare himself to the presence of the {{w|Taliban}} in Afghanistan by stating that he has provided hope and stability to the fictional city.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|WCT reflects on the Watchmen drama and his dox, as well as his plans going forward when it comes to his online presence. He later brags about how good his relationship is with Chris and how happy Chris currently is. Para and Silvia then have a discussion about the state of Chris's life and his happiness, which then transitions into WCT comparing [[CWCville]] to {{w|Afghanistan}} by stating that he's the real leader while Chris is a figurehead. He then seems to compare himself to the presence of the {{w|Taliban}} in Afghanistan by stating that he has provided hope and stability to the fictional city. |
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| While this discussion is happening, the Fool shares more text exchanges between Chris and MKR, in which Chris essentially rejects her attempt to guilt him into coming back to her. WCT, of course, gloats about this and credits himself for this turn of events. | | While this discussion is happening, the Fool shares more text exchanges between Chris and MKR, in which Chris essentially rejects her attempt to guilt him into coming back to her. WCT, of course, gloats about this and credits himself for this turn of events.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The Knights have a discussion where they gossip about the Watchmen, and MKR's behavior and mental state in the face of rejection from Chris. Naturally, WCT manages to eventually return to the topic of Naught's behavior and how Nova and MKR failed to turn against him. He then shares DMs he had with MKR, where the two of them speculate on who doxed him, with MKR shifting blame to other individuals when WCT insists that it must have been Naught. Everyone in this discussion makes fun of her while WCT is sharing these DMs.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The Knights have a discussion where they gossip about the Watchmen, and MKR's behavior and mental state in the face of rejection from Chris. Naturally, WCT manages to eventually return to the topic of Naught's behavior and how Nova and MKR failed to turn against him. He then shares DMs he had with MKR, where the two of them speculate on who doxed him, with MKR shifting blame to other individuals when WCT insists that it must have been Naught. Everyone in this discussion makes fun of her while WCT is sharing these DMs.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The Knights schedule a group voice chat with Chris, which would take place later that night.
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The scheduled call with Chris takes place. Most of it is mundane, discussing the Watchmen and their suspicions around me and Praetor, as well as {{w|Funko}} and {{w|The Matrix (franchise)|the Matrix franchise}}. WCT continues self-aggrandizing, and I request (again, in vain) that Chris answer the Q&A questions I've provided him with. However, the most notable aspect of this call is Chris mentioning having an "older lady friend" who he has supposedly been having regular sex with. The Knights congratulate him on this and ask some minor questions, though Chris divulges little.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The scheduled call with Chris takes place. Most of it is mundane, discussing the Watchmen and their suspicions around me and Praetor, as well as {{w|Funko}} and {{w|The Matrix (franchise)|the Matrix franchise}}. WCT continues self-aggrandizing, and I request (again, in vain) that Chris answer the Q&A questions I've provided him with. However, the most notable aspect of this call is Chris mentioning having an "older lady friend" who he has supposedly been having regular sex with. The Knights congratulate him on this and ask some minor questions, though Chris divulges little. |
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| After this call ends, a second one starts in the second layer, where the Knights discuss the call, and speculate on the identity of this supposed mystery woman and why she had stuck around Chris. | | After this call ends, a second one starts in the second layer, where the Knights discuss the call, and speculate on the identity of this supposed mystery woman and why she had stuck around Chris. |
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| The next day, in the second layer, WCT summarizes the lesser aspects of the call to another user, and again discusses the flaws in the Watchmen. | | The next day, in the second layer, WCT summarizes the lesser aspects of the call to another user, and again discusses the flaws in the Watchmen. |
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| ''NOTE: This call with Chris and the subsequent private one without him were unfortunately not recorded, so the only evidence I have of them taking place are these chat transcripts of myself and others who didn't have their mics turned on, reacting to the call. Keep this in mind when trying to evaluate context.'' | | ''NOTE: This call with Chris and the subsequent private one without him were unfortunately not recorded, so the only evidence I have of them taking place are these chat transcripts of myself and others who didn't have their mics turned on, reacting to the call. Keep this in mind when trying to evaluate context.''}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT reports in the first layer that his YouTube channel had gotten a strike for harassment on an episode of his [[Randy Stair]] series, sharing the automated messages he received and his attempted appeal of the decision. Despite this, he manages to reupload all of his content to a second channel.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The WCT reports in the first layer that his YouTube channel had gotten a strike for harassment on an episode of his [[Randy Stair]] series, sharing the automated messages he received and his attempted appeal of the decision. Despite this, he manages to reupload all of his content to a second channel. |
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| In the second layer, WCT speculates that Naught was responsible for flagging his videos, which leads to WCT privating all of his channel content. He then shares a slapfight he had with Naught over the strikes in a different server they shared, then a discussion he had with Chris in DMs about it, and finally an attempt by MKR to provoke him in another server. | | In the second layer, WCT speculates that Naught was responsible for flagging his videos, which leads to WCT privating all of his channel content. He then shares a slapfight he had with Naught over the strikes in a different server they shared, then a discussion he had with Chris in DMs about it, and finally an attempt by MKR to provoke him in another server. |
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| The next day, WCT shares that his appeal had been rejected by YouTube, then calls the Watchmen leaders "pathetic" and "salty" over losing Chris. | | The next day, WCT shares that his appeal had been rejected by YouTube, then calls the Watchmen leaders "pathetic" and "salty" over losing Chris.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The slapfight between Naught and WCT continues, with the latter goading the former into posting his "big boy dox" in a server they both share. I warn WCT that provoking Naught will only escalate the situation, but the Fool insists that it would also be funny. WCT then shares some reactions of other users towards Naught's behavior, as well as a mod warning the two of them to be civil in their server. Para later states that Naught's statements didn't admit guilt, but WCT still insists that Naught is responsible.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The slapfight between Naught and WCT continues, with the latter goading the former into posting his "big boy dox" in a server they both share. I warn WCT that provoking Naught will only escalate the situation, but the Fool insists that it would also be funny. WCT then shares some reactions of other users towards Naught's behavior, as well as a mod warning the two of them to be civil in their server. Para later states that Naught's statements didn't admit guilt, but WCT still insists that Naught is responsible.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT shares a link to an interview he had with a CWCki editor about what had happened with the Watchmen, and the Fool remarks on how WCT had lied about being in contact with Chris, which he later confirms is meant to keep the Knights server a secret. The WCT and the Fool criticize the Watchmen for failing to stay secret, then WCT pivots to state his interest in inviting Caden of Praetor into the server. Para questions why WCT would bother with this, which triggers an argument where Para gradually gets more aggressive in her disagreements with WCT and the Fool's logic. The two of them take the position that Chris being exploited is inevitable, so the best they can do is remain friendly with him in the hope that Chris becomes more likely to take their advice over that of others.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The WCT shares a link to an interview he had with a CWCki editor about what had happened with the Watchmen, and the Fool remarks on how WCT had lied about being in contact with Chris, which he later confirms is meant to keep the Knights server a secret. The WCT and the Fool criticize the Watchmen for failing to stay secret, then WCT pivots to state his interest in inviting Caden of Praetor into the server. Para questions why WCT would bother with this, which triggers an argument where Para gradually gets more aggressive in her disagreements with WCT and the Fool's logic. The two of them take the position that Chris being exploited is inevitable, so the best they can do is remain friendly with him in the hope that Chris becomes more likely to take their advice over that of others.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> NovaKyle informs WCT of Jacob Sockness's intentions to go to Everfree Northwest and meet with Chris, and WCT warns Chris about this in turn. The Fool states that Chris should have bodyguards at the convention and WCT agrees, sparking a discussion on strategies to keep Chris safe. WCT soon decides to reach out to the convention and warn them about Sockness as well, though I take the position that he should inform Null first. Para later takes the position that Nova isn't a bad guy and points out how the Knights aren't much different from the Watchmen. WCT mostly agrees with the latter opinion but disagrees strongly with the former, citing Nova deciding to side with Naught (again).
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|NovaKyle informs WCT of Jacob Sockness's intentions to go to Everfree Northwest and meet with Chris, and WCT warns Chris about this in turn. The Fool states that Chris should have bodyguards at the convention and WCT agrees, sparking a discussion on strategies to keep Chris safe. WCT soon decides to reach out to the convention and warn them about Sockness as well, though I take the position that he should inform Null first. Para later takes the position that Nova isn't a bad guy and points out how the Knights aren't much different from the Watchmen. WCT mostly agrees with the latter opinion but disagrees strongly with the former, citing Nova deciding to side with Naught (again). |
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| WCT later shares DMs he had with Chris, where the latter states that he had informed Null about Sockness and that Sockness couldn't take his "new virginity" because he had been having sex with his "lady friend." WCT and Para shit-talk Sockness for a while, then Para bashes Praetor some more. The final topic of discussion is Chris's future, and how the WCT believes that Chris's story will end when Barb passes away. | | WCT later shares DMs he had with Chris, where the latter states that he had informed Null about Sockness and that Sockness couldn't take his "new virginity" because he had been having sex with his "lady friend." WCT and Para shit-talk Sockness for a while, then Para bashes Praetor some more. The final topic of discussion is Chris's future, and how the WCT believes that Chris's story will end when Barb passes away.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT shares (passive-aggressive) discussions he had with Nova over how to prevent Sockness from attending Everfree, including his idea to stop Sockness from coming with a similar strategy the Watchmen had used previously, where Chris would create a clip to inform the public about Sockness's intentions, which would inform the convention in turn. A server member expresses doubts about this idea, but WCT still defends it. Silvia shares her experiences with convention security, and since she is in Everfree's Discord server, WCT asks her to contact their staff since they hadn't responded to him on Twitter.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The WCT shares (passive-aggressive) discussions he had with Nova over how to prevent Sockness from attending Everfree, including his idea to stop Sockness from coming with a similar strategy the Watchmen had used previously, where Chris would create a clip to inform the public about Sockness's intentions, which would inform the convention in turn. A server member expresses doubts about this idea, but WCT still defends it. Silvia shares her experiences with convention security, and since she is in Everfree's Discord server, WCT asks her to contact their staff since they hadn't responded to him on Twitter. |
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| The WCT then shares a DM with Chris where the latter rejects the clip idea, and states that Bella is going to attend the convention with him and would be a "bodyguard." | | The WCT then shares a DM with Chris where the latter rejects the clip idea, and states that Bella is going to attend the convention with him and would be a "bodyguard."}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT announces in the first layer that he can upload to his YouTube channel once again, and Chris comes into the chat to congratulate WCT on this turn of events. Silvia talks about the weather in her area and hopes that Chris is doing alright where he is, to which Chris responds that he currently is but needs to check his weather app.
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT posts a discussion he had with Chris about security at Everfree, in which Chris brings up the Randy Stair (Ember's Ghost Squad) lore that he learned of from WCT. Silvia inquires about EGS, which WCT summarizes, and the Fool blames the [[Idea Guys]] for Chris's interest in the subject. The WCT sheepishly admits his involvement in getting Chris to parrot Stair's lore, which Silvia lightly shames him for. He then explains the history of Stair and EGS further, and dismisses MKR's belief that Chris would try to kill himself due to WCT's series on Stair, which Silvia agrees with.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The WCT posts a discussion he had with Chris about security at Everfree, in which Chris brings up the Randy Stair (Ember's Ghost Squad) lore that he learned of from WCT. Silvia inquires about EGS, which WCT summarizes, and the Fool blames the [[Idea Guys]] for Chris's interest in the subject. The WCT sheepishly admits his involvement in getting Chris to parrot Stair's lore, which Silvia lightly shames him for. He then explains the history of Stair and EGS further, and dismisses MKR's belief that Chris would try to kill himself due to WCT's series on Stair, which Silvia agrees with.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Chris describes vague physical details about his "lady friend" to WCT in DMs, namely that she is in her 70s, has gray hair, is shorter than he is, and has blue eyes. WCT comments that her age is very close to that of Chris's mother. The Fool remarks that Chris has found his "replacement Barb" and Silvia states her hope that it isn't actually Barb, considering Chris's [[Oedipus Complex]]. WCT states his intention to never let these details leak out, and Silvia expresses concern at such an elderly person having sex. WCT nicknames her "Step Barb," and Silvia wonders if this woman is one of Barb's friends. The WCT caps off this discussion by stating his confident belief that Chris will be "fine" after their talk.
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> NovaKyle attempts to provoke WCT in DMs again, leading to the WCT arguing (in the Knights server) against the belief that destroying the Watchmen will cause harm to Chris in real life. He then proclaims the Knights group to be a success, and that even Val agreed with their hands-off approach to Chris.
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT uncovers an old message by Naught where he posts a picture of text that says "KYS ANIME PFP," which matches the profile picture of the "Nightmare" account on Kiwi Farms, the one WCT had claimed belonged to Naught. He then shares more posts by an account belonging to Naught on lolcow.org, including one where he defends doxing a 13-year old for contacting Chris and reposts their information. I comment in disgust of his actions, and WCT reiterates that Naught is pyschopathic and "needs to be stopped." He also claims that Naught's real first name is Dominik, and that he also lives in California (same as WCT).
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The WCT uncovers an old message by Naught where he posts a picture of text that says "KYS ANIME PFP," which matches the profile picture of the "Nightmare" account on Kiwi Farms, the one WCT had claimed belonged to Naught. He then shares more posts by an account belonging to Naught on lolcow.org, including one where he defends doxing a 13-year old for contacting Chris and reposts their information. I comment in disgust of his actions, and WCT reiterates that Naught is pyschopathic and "needs to be stopped." He also claims that Naught's real first name is Dominik, and that he also lives in California (same as WCT). |
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| We discuss a bit more of his history, and eventually bring up [[Joseph Draft]], with WCT claiming that Naught had threatened to dox Draft, causing him to do the deed himself. | | We discuss a bit more of his history, and eventually bring up [[Joseph Draft]], with WCT claiming that Naught had threatened to dox Draft, causing him to do the deed himself.}} |
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| 19 July 2021 | | 19 July 2021 |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The Suitress (@ScootalooSister) arrives in the server's first layer, where the WCT, the Fool, and I introduce ourselves. Chris vouches for her and states that she will also be attending Everfree Northwest with him. WCT chats with the Suitress, bringing up the Watchmen and how they "would have never given [her] a chance" and that they "had to go." The Suitress asks a few questions about them, and WCT brings up his gripes with Naught and how he "overthrew" him. After they discuss this for a little while, Chris returns to the chat and writes an extremely long rambling textwall about past convention experiences, mixed with some of his delusional beliefs.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The Suitress (@ScootalooSister) arrives in the server's first layer, where the WCT, the Fool, and I introduce ourselves. Chris vouches for her and states that she will also be attending Everfree Northwest with him. WCT chats with the Suitress, bringing up the Watchmen and how they "would have never given [her] a chance" and that they "had to go." The Suitress asks a few questions about them, and WCT brings up his gripes with Naught and how he "overthrew" him. After they discuss this for a little while, Chris returns to the chat and writes an extremely long rambling textwall about past convention experiences, mixed with some of his delusional beliefs. |
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| In the second layer, the WCT states that he is inviting in Bella on Chris's request, a move that I question but do not push back on. He expresses a hope to coordinate with Praetor on Chris's security at the convention. When ScootalooSister joins, WCT confirms that she is "Fifi" and not Bella, then states that she is autistic and describes her physical appearance. I warn WCT about sharing too much information with the Suitress, concerns that he largely dismisses. Later, I remark on how long Chris's textwall is getting, and how Twitter's short-form posts aren't really suited to his needs. | | In the second layer, the WCT states that he is inviting in Bella on Chris's request, a move that I question but do not push back on. He expresses a hope to coordinate with Praetor on Chris's security at the convention. When ScootalooSister joins, WCT confirms that she is "Fifi" and not Bella, then states that she is autistic and describes her physical appearance. I warn WCT about sharing too much information with the Suitress, concerns that he largely dismisses. Later, I remark on how long Chris's textwall is getting, and how Twitter's short-form posts aren't really suited to his needs.}} |
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| {{see also|The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#The Suitress enters Knights of CWC server}}
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:17 PM|''Joined the server.''}} | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:17 PM|''Joined the server.''}} |
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:17 PM|Welcome! @ScootalooSister | | {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:17 PM|Welcome! @ScootalooSister |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:18 PM|Hello!}} | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:18 PM|Hello!}} |
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:19 PM|My name is Kat, I also go by as Neko.}} | | {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:19 PM|My name is Kat, I also go by as Neko.}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:20 PM|There's only a few people here | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:20 PM|There's only a few people here |
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| This is nice and exclusive}} | | This is nice and exclusive}} |
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| bringing them in here is a good thing.}} | | bringing them in here is a good thing.}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:26 PM|''[Replying to "Hey, @everyone. I trust you all to be kind and guiding to @ScootalooSister; she and her convention buddy are part of my convention weekend posse, at least for Friday afternoon and the Saturday."]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:26 PM|''[Replying to "Hey, @everyone. I trust you all to be kind and guiding to @ScootalooSister; she and her convention buddy are part of my convention weekend posse, at least for Friday afternoon and the Saturday."]'' |
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| Thank you, Christine}} | | Thank you, Christine}} |
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| The old group would have never given you a chance. 😅}} | | The old group would have never given you a chance. 😅}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:27 PM|''[Replying to "The old group would have never given you a chance. 😅"]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:27 PM|''[Replying to "The old group would have never given you a chance. 😅"]'' |
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 01:28 PM|it was run by some jokers with the mentality of middleschool bullies}} | | {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 01:28 PM|it was run by some jokers with the mentality of middleschool bullies}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:28 PM|Was it irl?}} | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:28 PM|Was it irl?}} |
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:28 PM|no}} | | {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:28 PM|no}} |
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 01:28 PM|it was the watchmen, they have a cwcki article}} | | {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 01:28 PM|it was the watchmen, they have a cwcki article}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:28 PM|I heard of them | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:28 PM|I heard of them |
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| I overthrew its leader (his name was Naught) who recently decided for no reason whatsoever to dox me.}} | | I overthrew its leader (his name was Naught) who recently decided for no reason whatsoever to dox me.}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:29 PM|I'm sure he couldn't dig up much dirt}} | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:29 PM|I'm sure he couldn't dig up much dirt}} |
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:29 PM|I knew the guy for 2 years and he just does that out of the blue.}} | | {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:29 PM|I knew the guy for 2 years and he just does that out of the blue.}} |
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| again, its a long story. But he's long gone now and so are his disciples that were there.}} | | again, its a long story. But he's long gone now and so are his disciples that were there.}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 01:30 PM|Oh ok}} | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 01:30 PM|Oh ok}} |
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| {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 01:37 PM|I will offer a nugget of wisdom that @ScootalooSister brought up with me earlier when were talking of past convention first impressions. Like me, hers was an anime convention. I’ll let her share the rest of that store should she wish. | | {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 01:37 PM|I will offer a nugget of wisdom that @ScootalooSister brought up with me earlier when were talking of past convention first impressions. Like me, hers was an anime convention. I’ll let her share the rest of that store should she wish. |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Bella (@an0nym0us) joins the server, and we all introduce ourselves to her. WCT (once again) brings up that he is an ex-Watchman and that the group had been replaced by the Knights. The Fool tries to confirm that Bella is a member of Praetor, and WCT asks her to reach out to other members of the group so they can join the Knights server and he can apologize to them. However, she insists that Praetor's members are just acquaintances and that she had only done the animation on their behalf, and that they weren't the nicest people.
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| WCT and Bella talk about summer classes, then they quiz each other on their respective histories with Chris, with WCT continuing to demonize the Watchmen leaders for doxing him. Bella claims to have ensured her own online anonymity by citing something nonsensical about "wired logs and audits" and "reverse address engineering," and requests to be kept anonymous by us, terms that WCT agrees to. They talk briefly about the troll [[Larry Vaughn]], and WCT reiterates the importance of security for Chris, especially given Jacob Sockness's intent to attend the convention as well. | | WCT and Bella talk about summer classes, then they quiz each other on their respective histories with Chris, with WCT continuing to demonize the Watchmen leaders for doxing him. Bella claims to have ensured her own online anonymity by citing something nonsensical about "wired logs and audits" and "reverse address engineering," and requests to be kept anonymous by us, terms that WCT agrees to. They talk briefly about the troll [[Larry Vaughn]], and WCT reiterates the importance of security for Chris, especially given Jacob Sockness's intent to attend the convention as well. |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Chris posts three [[TSSSF]] cards he had drawn, with the intent to show them to Null. Two of them featured Null's ponysona "KiwiMac" and the third referenced Everfree Northwest. The WCT, the Fool, Bella, and the Suitress all praise Chris's drawings and state that Null would also like them. Chris posts a set of messages he had sent to Null, one of which mentions the WCT, and then states his intention to distribute the cards among the congoers, which the others express concern over due to the negative reputation of Kiwi Farms. Chris then expresses a hope for Null to attend the convention as well, then posts a pair of drawings he had created that featured him wearing a Kiwi Farms T-shirt, which the others in the chat praise.
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| {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 09:28 PM|For him and everyone, in general. At least I can spread a few copies of these cards around the convention.}} | | {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 09:28 PM|For him and everyone, in general. At least I can spread a few copies of these cards around the convention.}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:28 PM|Which cards? | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:28 PM|Which cards? |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:29 PM|I'm sure some congoers are Kiwi Farms members}} | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:29 PM|I'm sure some congoers are Kiwi Farms members}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:29 PM|We don't know for sure}} | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:29 PM|We don't know for sure}} |
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 09:29 PM|in fact I know some are}} | | {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 09:29 PM|in fact I know some are}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:30 PM|I hear Josh would be there}} | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:30 PM|I hear Josh would be there}} |
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| {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 09:30 PM|''[Replying to "I hear Josh would be there"]'' | | {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 09:30 PM|''[Replying to "I hear Josh would be there"]'' |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:30 PM|''[Replying to "I’m only optimistic he will be there, and I am praying he is."]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:30 PM|''[Replying to "I’m only optimistic he will be there, and I am praying he is."]'' |
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| You know I'll be checked in to the hotel at 4:00pm}} | | You know I'll be checked in to the hotel at 4:00pm}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:32 PM|''[Replying to "Y’all want to see two really fun drawings out of yesterday’s commissions that I feel are appropriate? One of them actually requested me with a certain logo."]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:32 PM|''[Replying to "Y’all want to see two really fun drawings out of yesterday’s commissions that I feel are appropriate? One of them actually requested me with a certain logo."]'' |
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| {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 09:34 PM|It’s the finer details that contribute well.}} | | {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 09:34 PM|It’s the finer details that contribute well.}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:34 PM|''[Replying to "Click to see attachment 🖼️"]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:34 PM|''[Replying to "Click to see attachment 🖼️"]'' |
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| That's the drawing you told me about the giant!}} | | That's the drawing you told me about the giant!}} |
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| {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 09:35 PM|Yeah, the last request of yesterday was just me with my arm around a tall guy with long hair and a mustache, so I had fun with one of my favourite things to think when I see anyone taller than me.}} | | {{quotebox|speaker = Chris|time = 09:35 PM|Yeah, the last request of yesterday was just me with my arm around a tall guy with long hair and a mustache, so I had fun with one of my favourite things to think when I see anyone taller than me.}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:37 PM|''[Replying to "I opted to go for a biker style, and something along the lines of him having been out in the sun for a while."]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:37 PM|''[Replying to "I opted to go for a biker style, and something along the lines of him having been out in the sun for a while."]'' |
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| i wonder if its too late for me to grow}} | | i wonder if its too late for me to grow}} |
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| My friend James likes her, too!}} | | My friend James likes her, too!}} |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 09:49 PM|''[Replying to "“Oh! Being good is bad. But being bad is good. So, doing good hurts, which is bad, so it does us good…”"]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 09:49 PM|''[Replying to "“Oh! Being good is bad. But being bad is good. So, doing good hurts, which is bad, so it does us good…”"]'' |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 10:03 PM|@CWCSonichu1982 | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 10:03 PM|@CWCSonichu1982 |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 10:08 PM|''[Replying to "is this where this song is from??"]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 10:08 PM|''[Replying to "is this where this song is from??"]'' |
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| {{quoteboxivory|speaker = The Suitress|time = 10:14 PM|''[Replying to "https://youtu.be/17o1OlroNSE"]'' | | {{quoteboxivory|speaker = Fiona|time = 10:14 PM|''[Replying to "https://youtu.be/17o1OlroNSE"]'' |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Upon being informed about a recent tweet of Chris's where he attempts to get back into contact with former Watchman AquaDiamond8, The WCT states his desire to give her a chance to "change sides," which I protest against since she had been friends with MKR. WCT still expresses an intent to try, and attempts to reassure me by stating that Aqua would initially only be allowed in the server's first layer.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|Upon being informed about a recent tweet of Chris's where he attempts to get back into contact with former Watchman AquaDiamond8, The WCT states his desire to give her a chance to "change sides," which I protest against since she had been friends with MKR. WCT still expresses an intent to try, and attempts to reassure me by stating that Aqua would initially only be allowed in the server's first layer.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Chris shares a replication he made of ''{{w|The Last Supper}}'' as well as a tweet he had made sharing the drawing and a picture of his {{w|memoji}} blowing a kiss. The Fool and I compliment his work.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|Chris shares a replication he made of ''{{w|The Last Supper}}'' as well as a tweet he had made sharing the drawing and a picture of his {{w|memoji}} blowing a kiss. The Fool and I compliment his work.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Chris shares a YouTube video which announces that certain bronies will be in attendance at Everfree Northwest, with him stating that three of them were his favorites and that he "foresaw" their likely attendance.
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT shares Chris's then-recent [[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.|YouTube video]] to the second layer, in which Chris angrily demands the cancellation of MLP G5 and resuming of G4, claiming that not doing so will throw the current "timeline" into chaos. The Fool and Silvia remark on the state of the wall seen behind Chris in the video, noting that Chris must have punched it. The WCT shares DMs of him reaching out to Chris and expressing concern for Chris's wellbeing, with Chris responding that he won't hurt himself and reiterating that G5 is supposed to be canceled. WCT expresses sympathy towards Chris's position and then asks about the wall, and Chris states that he had been punching it to practice breaking down the "Iron Curtain" separating dimensions.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The WCT shares Chris's then-recent [[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.|YouTube video]] to the second layer, in which Chris angrily demands the cancellation of MLP G5 and resuming of G4, claiming that not doing so will throw the current "timeline" into chaos. The Fool and Silvia remark on the state of the wall seen behind Chris in the video, noting that Chris must have punched it. The WCT shares DMs of him reaching out to Chris and expressing concern for Chris's wellbeing, with Chris responding that he won't hurt himself and reiterating that G5 is supposed to be canceled. WCT expresses sympathy towards Chris's position and then asks about the wall, and Chris states that he had been punching it to practice breaking down the "Iron Curtain" separating dimensions. |
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| At this point, Chris posts a large textwall in the first layer explaining his actions and motivations, which were apparently driven by anger towards seeing G5 toys in a store, and had snapped his fingers to make them "[phase] out of existence." Chris expresses to everyone the apparent seriousness of the situation, and both WCT and the Fool agree with him. Chris then explains what happened to the wall and states again that he does not intend to hurt himself. | | At this point, Chris posts a large textwall in the first layer explaining his actions and motivations, which were apparently driven by anger towards seeing G5 toys in a store, and had snapped his fingers to make them "[phase] out of existence." Chris expresses to everyone the apparent seriousness of the situation, and both WCT and the Fool agree with him. Chris then explains what happened to the wall and states again that he does not intend to hurt himself. |
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| The Knights react to Chris's messages in the second layer, with the Fool commenting on Chris's consumerist mindset and myself expressing concern over the "punching holes in the wall" debacle. WCT shares another DM with Chris where the latter requests that the former make an anti-G5 video on his YouTube channel. A discussion sparks about Chris's delusions and coping methods, and then Chris's past criminal history when it comes to his behavior in stores. | | The Knights react to Chris's messages in the second layer, with the Fool commenting on Chris's consumerist mindset and myself expressing concern over the "punching holes in the wall" debacle. WCT shares another DM with Chris where the latter requests that the former make an anti-G5 video on his YouTube channel. A discussion sparks about Chris's delusions and coping methods, and then Chris's past criminal history when it comes to his behavior in stores.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT shares that he had just spoken to Chris, who had been thinking of MKR lately, and that WCT had shared more of the "Toxic Trio's" bullying in response to confirm that they are irredeemable. Silvia then shares a text exchange she had with Chris, where she asks for a copy of some of Chris's [[TSSSF]] cards, and Chris insists on sending them to her for free. Silvia and the Fool remark that this may be a positive development for Chris.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The WCT shares that he had just spoken to Chris, who had been thinking of MKR lately, and that WCT had shared more of the "Toxic Trio's" bullying in response to confirm that they are irredeemable. Silvia then shares a text exchange she had with Chris, where she asks for a copy of some of Chris's [[TSSSF]] cards, and Chris insists on sending them to her for free. Silvia and the Fool remark that this may be a positive development for Chris.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Chris comes into the server to share a {{w|Haiku}} that he had written to remember the birth order of Barb and her seven siblings. I comment on how many there are.
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| In the second layer, I note that Chris had swapped the positions of [[Aunt Harriet|Harriet]] and Madeline according to the Weston family tree, and that Chris had referred to many of the siblings by their middle names rather than their first names. I speculate that this might have been a quirk of Barb's that Chris had picked up on. | | In the second layer, I note that Chris had swapped the positions of [[Aunt Harriet|Harriet]] and Madeline according to the Weston family tree, and that Chris had referred to many of the siblings by their middle names rather than their first names. I speculate that this might have been a quirk of Barb's that Chris had picked up on.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> I share with the Knights the [[Incest Call#Original leak|first leaked audio]] in which Chris admits to having had sex with his mother, expressing a hesitant hope that it's fake. The WCT immediately asserts that it definitely is fake, and would share it with Chris for his amusement. Another Knight expresses doubts and suggests that Chris make a statement addressing the audio, despite skepticism over whether Chris really would have sex with Barb. WCT and the Fool both acknowledge that the audio had been heavily edited, and I address that this is true, but the audio was still of Chris's real voice.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|I share with the Knights the [[Incest Call#Original leak|first leaked audio]] in which Chris admits to having had sex with his mother, expressing a hesitant hope that it's fake. The WCT immediately asserts that it definitely is fake, and would share it with Chris for his amusement. Another Knight expresses doubts and suggests that Chris make a statement addressing the audio, despite skepticism over whether Chris really would have sex with Barb. WCT and the Fool both acknowledge that the audio had been heavily edited, and I address that this is true, but the audio was still of Chris's real voice. |
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| I post the [[Incest Call#Second leak|nine-minute version]] of the audio, which included Chris talking with an unknown individual about sex acts with Barb. Silvia suggests that the previously-mentioned "lady friend" was actually referring to Barb, which we both hope is not the case. I note that an unknown female is mentioned in the call (the real name of the Suitress, as we would later find out), and could be the identity of the "lady friend." I begin sharing transcripts of the call that were being created by users on the CWCki Server. | | I post the [[Incest Call#Second leak|nine-minute version]] of the audio, which included Chris talking with an unknown individual about sex acts with Barb. Silvia suggests that the previously-mentioned "lady friend" was actually referring to Barb, which we both hope is not the case. I note that someone named "Fiona" is mentioned in the call (the real name of the Suitress, as we would later find out), and could be the identity of the "lady friend." I begin sharing transcripts of the call that were being created by users on the CWCki Server. |
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| I post a screenshot of Null talking about his theories about what is going on, one being that the audio is old and from the Joshua Wise days. Silvia inquires about this, and I clarify that Null is talking about the past coercion of the Idea Guys, and the audio might be a result of that. I post another screenshot of Null explaining a theory that Chris is trying to cover something up with a really bad lie, and ask about its likelihood. The mention of a convention by Chris in the audio makes us wonder if there was a convention that occurred during the Idea Guys saga that he was referring to, as opposed to the then-upcoming Everfree Northwest convention. | | I post a screenshot of Null talking about his theories about what is going on, one being that the audio is old and from the Joshua Wise days. Silvia inquires about this, and I clarify that Null is talking about the past coercion of the Idea Guys, and the audio might be a result of that. I post another screenshot of Null explaining a theory that Chris is trying to cover something up with a really bad lie, and ask about its likelihood. The mention of a convention by Chris in the audio makes us wonder if there was a convention that occurred during the Idea Guys saga that he was referring to, as opposed to the then-upcoming Everfree Northwest convention.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> A member of the server notes that somebody named "Snoo" was involved in the situation, and might be the same person as the woman Chris had mentioned in the call (the Suitress). Recognizing that name, I explain to WCT (who is in shock over the news of the call spreading like wildfire across the Internet) who Snoo is and her past history obsessing over Chris and getting into conflicts with the Watchmen. WCT questions if she was actually the leaker, and I express uncertainty. WCT then states that the woman Chris had mentioned was already in the Knights server, which I express confusion over, mistakenly believing that Bella and the "an0nym0us" account were two different individuals who had joined the server. WCT goes to check again, and states that he was wrong (in reality, he wasn't).
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|A member of the server notes that somebody named "Snoo" was involved in the situation, and might be the same person as Fiona. Recognizing that name, I explain to WCT (who is in shock over the news of the call spreading like wildfire across the Internet) who Snoo is and her past history obsessing over Chris and getting into conflicts with the Watchmen. WCT questions if she was actually the leaker, and I express uncertainty. WCT then states that Fiona was already in the Knights server, which I express confusion over, mistakenly believing that Bella and the "an0nym0us" account were two different individuals who had joined the server. WCT goes to check again, and states that he was wrong (in reality, he wasn't). |
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| At this point, we learn that Chris had been kicked out of his house and served an emergency protective order keeping him away from Barb, and that Bella was the one who Chris had confided his secret to. | | At this point, we learn that Chris had been kicked out of his house and served an emergency protective order keeping him away from Barb, and that Bella was the one who Chris had confided his secret to. |
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| In an "emergency call" hosted by WCT, we discuss what we knew about the situation. I focus on Snoo and her involvement, noting that she may be the key to all of this. We all have differing opinions over how Chris will be treated by the law and how likely it is that he actually did commit the crime. We listen to the leaked audio again together and comment on it, and I share a video I was given of Snoo cosplaying as Classic Chris and reenacting one of his old trolling videos. | | In an "emergency call" hosted by WCT, we discuss what we knew about the situation. I focus on Snoo and her involvement, noting that she may be the key to all of this. We all have differing opinions over how Chris will be treated by the law and how likely it is that he actually did commit the crime. We listen to the leaked audio again together and comment on it, and I share a video I was given of Snoo cosplaying as Classic Chris and reenacting one of his old trolling videos.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The WCT shares that Chris had DMed him, something which surprises me as I had believed Chris's phone had been taken away. WCT asks him about his plans and what had happened, and then asks who he had been talking to in the audio. Chris confirms that he had been talking to Bella, which we react to with astonishment and confusion. Silvia and I are still under the mistaken belief that she was acting on behalf of Praetor and that she was the leaker, so I question her motivations. When WCT asks if Chris did the deed to Barb, he confirms it and justifies his reasons, to our collective shock. Silvia states that Bella should leave the server, but I insist that she stay so that we could inquire further about what happened.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|The WCT shares that Chris had DMed him, something which surprises me as I had believed Chris's phone had been taken away. WCT asks him about his plans and what had happened, and then asks who he had been talking to in the audio. Chris confirms that he had been talking to Bella, which we react to with astonishment and confusion. Silvia and I are still under the mistaken belief that she was acting on behalf of Praetor and that she was the leaker, so I question her motivations. When WCT asks if Chris did the deed to Barb, he confirms it and justifies his reasons, to our collective shock. Silvia states that Bella should leave the server, but I insist that she stay so that we could inquire further about what happened. |
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| I request that WCT ask about the woman mentioned in the call, and Chris finally confirms that she is the same person as ScootalooSister/Fifi Vixenhart/Snoo by identifying the woman in the video clip as the same person who he had mentioned in the call. WCT then asks Chris if the previously-mentioned "lady friend" was actually referring to Barb, and Chris confirms that it was, to our disbelief. Upon Chris's request, WCT begins deleting messages from his side of their conversation, and Chris assumedly does the same with his own messages. | | I request that WCT ask about Fiona, and Chris finally confirms that she is the same person as ScootalooSister/Fifi Vixenhart/Snoo by identifying her as the woman in the video clip. WCT then asks Chris if the previously-mentioned "lady friend" was actually referring to Barb, and Chris confirms that it was, to our disbelief. Upon Chris's request, WCT begins deleting messages from his side of their conversation, and Chris assumedly does the same with his own messages.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Chris sends what would be his final messages in the Knights server, requesting donations to his PayPal account, which he wants to be kept confidential. The Knights write lightly positive messages in response. Chris later shares that he had been "revoked" from Everfree Northwest, to which WCT asks how it happened and I ask how he is currently doing. Chris answers neither of us and instead states that he will go "radio silent" for a while.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|Chris sends what would be his final messages in the Knights server, requesting donations to his PayPal account, which he wants to be kept confidential. The Knights write lightly positive messages in response. Chris later shares that he had been "revoked" from Everfree Northwest, to which WCT asks how it happened and I ask how he is currently doing. Chris answers neither of us and instead states that he will go "radio silent" for a while.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> WCT interrogates Bella in DMs over her involvement in the leaked calls and shares their messages with the rest of us. Bella (in very poor grammar and spelling) immediately blames two other individuals for "hacking" Chris's Internet, which WCT and the Fool privately call bullshit on. WCT keeps asking her questions but Bella continues to give him the runaround, stating that Chris had raped his mother and condemning WCT for "supporting" him. Bella insists that WCT make a group chat so that she can explain everything, and he obliges, adding me, the Fool, Para, Silvia, and himself into it along with Bella.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|WCT interrogates Bella in DMs over her involvement in the leaked calls and shares their messages with the rest of us. Bella (in very poor grammar and spelling) immediately blames two other individuals for "hacking" Chris's Internet, which WCT and the Fool privately call bullshit on. WCT keeps asking her questions but Bella continues to give him the runaround, stating that Chris had raped his mother and condemning WCT for "supporting" him. Bella insists that WCT make a group chat so that she can explain everything, and he obliges, adding me, the Fool, Para, Silvia, and himself into it along with Bella.}} |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> Having listened to Bella in the "Regarding Chris" group chat, I express my doubts about how truthful Bella is being, noting that she claimed Snoo was not the same person Chris had mentioned in the call, which contradicted Chris's claim. The Fool states his inclination to believe her more now, though I point out that we're taking Bella's word on everything without further evidence.
| | {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|Having listened to Bella in the "Regarding Chris" group chat, I express my doubts about how truthful Bella is being, noting that she claimed Snoo was not the same person as Fiona, which contradicted Chris's claim. The Fool states his inclination to believe her more now, though I point out that we're taking Bella's word on everything without further evidence. |
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> After the group interrogation of Bella is finished for the night, WCT shares a tweet by [[GiBi]] where he states that Chris had confessed to having sex with Barb to an ex-Watchman and to [[Dillin Thomas]], and that the public should accept what happened. I ask if we should share what we know considering all that has happened, and WCT states that he intends on doing more leaks if Chris is arrested and charged for incest. I ask who the ex-Watchman GiBi referred to was, and WCT states that it was himself.
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| <u>'''Summary:'''</u> The Fool questions the fate of the Knights should Chris turn out to be guilty, and then he and Para both express their utter disbelief over the events that had transpired.
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| {{references}} | | ==WCT Speaks to Lavenderbonez, Chats Between Bella and Fiona== |
| | 31 July - 1 August 2021 |
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| | {{quoteboxwhite|speaker = [REDACTED]|time = 09:49 PM|one of the [CWCki Server] users provided me with the @ to the lavenderbonez person |
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| | {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 10:05 PM|''[Replying to "so I took this to Neko since I know he was still around the cwc scene"]'' |
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| | I will talk to her after she's done with her shift. (edited)}} |
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| | {{References}} |
| {{WatchmenLeaks}} | | {{WatchmenLeaks}} |