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Taser Discussion is a 48-minute long call involving Chris, several Watchmen, and Praetor member Caden, which was recorded by Watchmen member The WCT.[1] Among the topics, Chris discusses wanting to use a taser, a desire he had expressed previously in a leaked text message; he believes tasing his Gate Crystal and Celestial Key quartz crystals would assist with activating the Dimensional Merge.[2]

A brief clip was leaked by the Watchman leader Naught on 8 February 2021.[3] However, the context of the clip was spun to paint Caden and Praetor in a negative light - Naught prefaced the leak with the comment, "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed," omitting that, in the clip, it is a Watchman member, Val, who jokingly floats the idea of Chris tazing himself, Chris volunteering himself for it, then Caden telling him it is a bad idea.

The full audio was released on 30 June 2021, lending new context to the nature of the discussion.

Original Clip

In the clip, the Watchmen member Val states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. Praetor member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea."

In his Kiwi Farms post, Naught named only Praetor member Caden and Chris as those present in the call. This omission led to speculation that Praetor's members were attempting to get Chris to tase himself. The Christuber GiBi produced a video on the topic in which he erroneously attributed all of the voices in the clip to Praetor members.[4]

In a DM over Discord to a CWCki editor, Naught clarified that the voices present in the clip are Watchmen members Val, Nova/Kyle, The WCT; Praetor member Caden; and Chris.[5]


Taser discussion
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From a Kiwi Farms forum post by Watchmen member Naught:

Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed.

Transcript

Caden: I- I-

Val: No, I don't think they were. Like, at all.

Caden: I don't think they were either.

Val: I don't think anything at all was ever solved. In the slightest. [laughs]

Caden: Not even a little bit.

Val: Even-

Kyle: When are you gonna do the- uh, testing video you promised?

Caden: The testing video?

Kyle: Yeah!

Val: Can you put, "Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz"?

Caden: Well, we're gonna-

Chris: I'll do it.

Caden: What?

Chris: I'd volunteer.

Caden: What?!? WHAT?!??!

Val: [bursts out laughing]

Chris: I'd tase myself. In serious and in joke, I would.

Caden: Look, are you sure-

WCT: Oh no...

Caden: There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea.

WCT: Oh no...

Caden: Are you- we'll talk about this later, okay?

WCT: OH NO!

Caden: I really gotta go before we make any rash decisions that involve CWC being zapped.

Chris: Obviously. But I mean, this body is part electricity literally, So I could take it.

Uncut Version

The WCT explains the context of the full chat, and why it was originally clipped.

On 30 June 2021, Watchmen member The WCT released the uncut audio call (lasting about 48 minutes) onto YouTube and posted about it on the now-defunct forum lolcow.org, seemingly out of a desire to lend full context to the minute-long clip that was originally released on Kiwi Farms.[6] In it, multiple Watchmen and Caden, a member of Praetor, talk to one another regarding the taser.

People present in the call are: Chris, Caden Peck, Kyle, MKRNightVee, The WCT, Val and Naught. Anaxis was also in this call, but did not turn his mic on.[1]


CWC and Friends talking to Praetor (February 8, 2021)
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The never before seen original and uncut infamous taser call.

The pinned comment, written by TheWCT, reads:

Who was in the wrong?

you decide.

Transcript

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On February 8, 2021.

Chris and the Watchmen would get into a Voice Chat with Praetor's leader Caden.

After the call concluded, the Watchmen's leader Naught uploaded a minute long audio clip to Kiwi Farms without full context that aimed to demonize and discredit Caden and Praetor as a whole.
For 4 months, this call remained private and kept away in local storage...
until now.
Originally recorded on February 8, 2021

Audio begins.

Chris: Literally and truly, putting a taser to the crystal was my own idea, and I got it through meditation and seeing into the future.

Kyle: Well where's the ground in that circuit? Just thinking of it from an electrical perspective.

Caden: The taser itself is a closed circuit. It's all contained within a little box. It's a handheld zapper, we don't use anything that's, ya know, firing any projectiles. That's just not only a m-

Kyle: That's because you keep erroneously calling it a taser when it's in fact a stun-gun.

Caden: I don't want to bust chops over semantics here, when I bought it it said "taser" on e-bay.

Kyle: Didn't you show a different one?

Caden: No no, we're using the exact same ones

Kyle: No you said in the past a different one!

Caden: No no, it's the same one. So we bulked ordered them, for the original purpose of sale. There's 10 of them right now. Uh, depending on how sales initially went, we were considering another order of 10-20. But, ya know, it's all based on what happens in this coming month. Whatever the case, this specific idea... what I don't understand is - while I do get while you're concerned about the safety of CWC, especially when it comes to the usage of a little zapper like that - at the bottom line that is that - not only

Kyle: [interrupting] Don't downplay it. Don't downplay it. A little zapper? No - it's a fucking self-defense instrument. It's not an instrument of mild irritation.

Caden: If you don't wanna downplay it-

MKR: Chris has had heart troubles in the past, so why wouldn't we worry?

Caden: Well, I won't - I won't downplay it, these things are brutal. But, if you're using them correctly, you have no chance of getting zapped whatsoever. And frankly, we recognize Chri-

Kyle: And this is [a very much off-label] use.

Caden: Well hold on. We recognize Christine as an adult who can make her own decisions and the fact that she requested one of these tasers… we thought that we’d let it happen. And will continue to let what she requests happen, happen. Unless it's something that's an absolutely out of proportion judgement - but we've never ever seen anything like that in our personal experience with her. We've full faith in the choices that she's making - and if she feels that this taser will bring about this-the dimensional merge than we're more than happy to experiment.

Chris: Or at the very least, a portal for me to finally get this body to CWCville.

MKR: I really don't think that's gonna work like that.

Chris: Well you don't know.

Chris: You can get sonar by running electricity through just a regular non-soulfully powered quartz that you would get a lot more through a heavily programmed overpowered one!

Kyle: That's because it's a distinct electrical instrument, using electrical purity quartz with a tolerance of something like 35bpm and that's for sonar which now presumably took out of scope or frequency.

MKR: Besides the regular electricity from any regular device wouldn't really count, I mean, wouldn't the electricity coming from your body naturally be the kind that you would need to power such a thing?

Chris: That is one thing, yes. It’s not tangible from… it's not so tangible, I mean… I wish I could do a thundershock from this body where you could see sparks coming from these hands or these cheeks. But that's not happening right now, at least at this moment-

MKR: Maybe your training's just not complete.

Chris: The best I can do to show some power is between the visions and foresight and the limited tele- the limited telekinesis and telepathy.

WCT: IMO you don't need that thing.

MKR: You really don't.

Kyle: D'you really need to prove-

MKR: Unless you're defending yourself from a predator, I don't think so,

WCT: A gun is more effective in self defense, but that's obviously not what we're talking about here.

MKR: *laughs* No.

Kyle: Oh trust me, I know!

Chris: Alright but anyway, the results were very good and Caden here will vouch for that - especially on the before on feeling[/filling?] the gate crystal and then AFTER sensing the gate crystal and the boosted energy that came out of it.

Kyle: You got extensive experience tasing yourself Caden?

Caden: Well ya know I've zapped myself a couple of times, I wouldn't sell something if I didn't know if it felt like - and uh - it doesn't feel good, I'll tell ya that!

Kyle: Really? I've seen the one you've mentioned and uh - it seems like a lot to subject anyone to.

Caden: It's a little rough - it's a little rough around the edges but, ya know -

Kyle: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's -

MKR: Maybe you should do it again and videotape it.

Kyle: I'm sure that's why they sell it. It's a little rough.

Caden: Oh it's a little rough for sure.

MKR: Just to prove it's only a little rough...

Kyle: Yeah; shove it up your ass to see how much you like it.

Caden: We were thinking of a demonstration if we could find a willing participant, well ya know, we're - we're looking.

Kyle: Well apparently you're a willing participant, do it now!

MKR: Didn't you just say that you were willing to test it on yourself?

Caden: Well not with a camera on me, I'm- I'm screenshy.

MKR: Then how do we know that you did it?

Caden: Well I guess you'll have to take my word for it on this one.

MKR: I can't take your word for anything cause you're a - freakin pathological liar Caden!

Kyle: Your words were jack and shit!

Caden: That is worth - that is downright hurtful, first of all, second of all-

MKR: Yeah (unintelligble) when you're sarcastic.

Kyle: Yeah I should feel very sorry for you.

MKR: Aw, poor Caden.

Chris: That is very wrong, to call him a pathological liar, because he is not.

MKR: Chris, he is a pathological liar.

Caden: I appreciate you defending me, Christine. But uh, like i again I feel very certain that there's not there's not a lot we can do to kind of, turn around that kind of view on us. Now we'll accept it, because again we let me reiterate I understand that you know y'all y'all have your concerns for Christine and it is a genuinely good thing however at the end of the day we're partnered with her not with y'all. We we we're in this Discord group just just because we were invited here but again we you know what what happens what what happens between us and Christine we're going to attempt to keep it you know when it comes down to final judgments, between us and Christine right? Now if if you'd like to join us we'd be happy to have you but i have a strange feeling that none of y'all are feeling that kind of movement.

MKR: Join you? What would that entail? How would I join you?

WCT: Press X to doubt. Press X to doubt.

Caden: Well, first of all before you go hitting those X's, I mean there's a ton of ways you could join us. I mean, firstly I'd like to start with a warm handshake.

WCT: Caden, Caden, Caden.

[...]

9:36 timestamp

Chris: Caden is the salesman. But you know the other members of our group here, uh, you know, uh, Caden, Owen, Bella, Annibelle. But, yeah, we have a couple of genuine psychic types and they...

14:23 timestamp

Val: There’s been lots and lots of people who could’ve made a buck off Chris, but they didn’t. Why?

Caden: Well, because they weren’t smart enough.

Naught: Do you really believe that?

Chris: Actually that’s a valid statement right there, especially considering the [past life with Praetor?]

Caden: We recognize the value of partnering with CWC. We recognize the value of her talent and what she brings to the board. Now I understand the controversy we’ve raised, but frankly, we don’t intend on really moving that much, we’re very pleased with where we are, alright? If you have any grievances we’re happy to hear them, and we love feedback, ya know? Regardless of how much it hurts us. But we-

Naught: Just interact with the retards that buy shit. I think it's that simple. It's what I said earlier, if you want to be a businessman or whatever, interact with the people, keep the optics up, and that's pretty much it!

Caden: That's what - that's our intentions.

[long pause]

Caden: So anything further?

WCT: Does anyone else have anything else to discuss with Caden?

Naught: No, I don't want to get pissed on and told it's raining.

WCT: No, of course.

15:52 timestamp

MKR: Chris why… why do you trust these people

Chris: Because they have proven themselves in person with their kindness-

MKR: Because they bought you things

Chris: No, that’s only part of…

MKR: That’s the reason though isn’t it

Chris: Not initially! Not initially!

MKR: laughs in disbelief

Chris: They proved it to us without buying anything… initially… that is the truth. Eventually yes, that did come to be – but – they have proven themselves very much without-

MKR: So you’re going to choose them over us, is that how it’s going to go? [...]

17:07 timestamp

Caden: […] Let me just say, our goal is not to take anything. Our goal is not just to be screwing with Christine. Our goal here is just to make cash with her, as a partnership - right?

MKR: Then why don’t you pay her more?

Caden: We do!

Naught?: That income split is kind of fucked.

Chris: THEY PAID ME 400 BUCKS las- abou- about a few weeks ago! They paid me 400 bucks…

MKR: Out of the $6,000 they made

Caden: Let me just say-

Chris: It didn't.

Caden: Let me just say- Let me just say here, that our relationship with Christine, the friendships and the business side that we have with her, is not intended for- we're not going to move on it. We don't want to - we don't want y'all to think we're trying to take anything from y'all. Right? We don't want to screw around with sides. Because this shouldn't have to be a war.

Chris: You're right.

Caden: Now I understand that there's a lot of animosity here, there's a lot of general discomfort, right?-

Val: Where were we? Before, I uuh... what happened? I was pretty sure I said ”stop fucking lying”.

MKR: Oh well, they're saying that they don't want to take Christine away from us, that the- they're not trying to [unintelligible]

Val:...*laughs* Christine...

Chris: I'm not being taken away from anybody, okay!?

23:14 timestamp

Val: So- so like, where the fuck does this uh, this whole 'Vaughn'...and uh Miss- Miss whatever her name is. Where does this come into play?

Chris: OH THAT WAS A WHOLE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING

Caden: The Vaughn person is an entirely different person. We have no clue who this idiot is.

24:39 timestamp

Chris: ...his name is Daniel. He lives he most majority lives in virginia. He works at Martha's Vineyard. He trucks around sometimes. He's lived in Vegas. His number was from Vegas and so forth. Freakin' bats. And after we confirmed all that information that we have foreseen...

Val: Confirmed with who? Confirmed with who? Confirmed with who? You said "confirmed the information", with who? Who confirmed that information?

Chris: ... all right, well, Bella...

Val: All right...

Chris: Well, confirmed the information. But don't tell anybody outside this group about that.

Kyle: You know that was leaked a little bit ago.

Chris: But aside from that, I... we... confirmed it now. But she had... she confirmed it. She told us and that allowed us to confirm it, with Mewtwo, with Magi-Chan, and with Christine here.


Still in my body! This is still Sonichu!


29:42 timestamp

Caden: I understand that. Personally, I'd kill for a sheet cake. One of those [Scream in the background] nice vanilla based ones? I just love that. It kills. [Scream continues]

Val: Is Chris like...?

MKR: I don’t know

Val: There was like some shouting or some fucking shit…

MKR: “Maybe Chris ate something spicy and there’s issues to be had; the bathroom’s become a war-room”. [...]

34:00 timestamp

Val: You're a total fucking faggot, Caden.

Caden: Now I'm just ruined.

Val: And you will be. And I garuntee by the end of the night, I’m going to be speaking to your mother and telling how terrible her son is.

Caden: honestly, if you end up getting me a paddling from mommy, I’m going to be so upset.

Val: [laughs] and I hope you should be!

MKR: Honestly I started out trying to be really nice, but you just like started getting like more suspicious and creepy and mean, and I just-

Chris Why do we have to have all this sarcasm and negativity talking shit?

Val: But it's fun! It's a laugh and it's fun, and it's people fucking with people for laughs.

Chris Every time Mr C. picked an argument with Chris, she failed at arguing back.

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clearly

and truly putting a taser to the crystal

was my own idea and i got it through

meditation and seeing it to the future

so where where's the ground in that

circuit just thinking about it from my

electrical perspective well the taser

itself is a closed circuit it's all

contained within a little box

you know it's a handheld zapper we don't

use

anything that's you know firing any

projectiles that's just

not only because you keep on erroneously

calling it a taser when it's in fact a

stun gun

well i don't wanna you know bus

i don't wanna bust chops over semantics

here when i bought it it's a taser on

ebay

didn't you show a different one

no no no no no we're using the exact

same ones uh the ones that were listed

in the oh you said in the past it was a

different one

no no it's the same one uh we actually

so we bulk ordered them for the original

purpose of sale there's 10 of them right

now uh depending on how sales initially

went we were considering another order

of 10 to 20.

but oh you know it it's all it's all

based off what happens in this next

coming month

right whatever the case this specific

idea

i what what i don't understand is i i

well i do get

why you're concerned about the safety of

cwc especially when it comes to the

usage of

a little zapper like that right but

the the at the bottom line is that

not only don't downplay it follow yeah

stop don't downplay it a little zapper

now it's a [ __ ] self-defense

instrument

oh it's not an instrument of mild

irritation

well if if you don't want to downplay

problems in the past

well i well i wouldn't i won't downplay

it these things are brutal

but if you're using them correctly you

have no chance of getting zapped

whatsoever and frankly

we recognize chris very much

well hold on we recognize christine as

an adult who can make her own decisions

and the fact that she requested one of

these tasers

we thought that we'd let it happen and

we'll continue to let

what she requests happen happen unless

it's something that's an

absolutely out of proportion judgment

but we've never

ever seen anything like that in our

personal experience with her

we have full faith in the choices that

she's making and if she feels that this

taser will

bring about this the the dimensional

merge then we're more than happy to

experiment

or at the very least a portal for me to

finally get this body to quick fit

i really don't think that's gonna work

like that

well you don't know you can get solar by

running electricity

through just a regular non

soulfully powered quartz because it's

a heavily programmed overpowered one

that's because it's a distinct

electrical instrument

using electrical purity quartz with

a tolerance of something like 35 ppm

and that's for sonar which now

presumably

some kind of scope or frequency besides

the regular electricity from any regular

device wouldn't really count i mean

wouldn't the

electricity coming from your body

naturally be the kind that you would

need

to power such a thing that is one thing

yes but

it's not it's not tangible from it's not

so tangible i mean i wish i could do

like a thunder shock from this body and

have it

before tangible where you can see the

parts coming out of these hands or these

cheeks

but it that's not happening right now at

least

this may be your training that's not

complete the best i can do is show

some power is between the uh visions

and foresight and the limited select the

limit

the limited telekinesis and telepathy

imo you don't need a you don't need that

thing

you really don't really need i mean

unless you're defending yourself from a

predator i don't think so

i don't think it's really a gun is more

effective in self-defense but that's

obviously not what we're talking about

here

no oh trust me i know

all right thank the results were very

results were very good

and kaden here will vouch for that

especially on the before on feeling the

gate crystal

and then after sensing the gay crystal

and the boosted energy that came out of

it

you got you got extensive experience

chasing yourself caden

well you know i've zapped myself a

couple of times i wouldn't sell

something if i didn't know what it felt

like and uh

it doesn't feel good i'll tell you that

i've seen i've i've seen uh i've

seen the one you've mentioned and uh

yeah that seems like a lot to subject

anyone to it's a little rough

it's a little rough around the edges oh

yeah maybe you're sure

i'm sure that's why they sell it because

it's a little rough

oh it's a little just to prove that it's

only a little rough

yeah well well but we'll consider you

shove it up your ass

you see how rough you like thinking of

uh we were thinking of a demonstration

if we could find the willing participant

well you know we're we're looking well

apparently you're willing participants

do it now

well i guess you'll have to take my word

for it on this one i can't take your

word for anything because you're a

freaking pathological liar caden no

these

words were jack and [ __ ] that is worth

that is

downright hurtful first of all yeah are

you when you're sarcastic

yeah i should feel very sorry for you oh

poor kayden to call him a pathological

liar because he is not chris he is a

pathological liar

i appreciate you defending me christine

but uh

like i again i feel very certain that

there's not there's not a lot we can do

to kind of

turn around that kind of view on us now

we'll accept it because again we let me

reiterate

i understand that you know y'all y'all

have your concerns for christine and it

is a genuinely good thing

however at the end of the day we're

partnered with her not with y'all we

we we're in this discord group just just

because we were invited here but again

we you know what what happens what what

happens between us and christine

we're going to attempt to keep it you

know when it comes down to final

judgments

between us and christine right now if if

you'd like to join us we'd be happy to

have you but i have a strange feeling

that

none of y'all are feeling that kind of

movement what would that intend

how would i join you uh

press x to do well i mean you could well

for well first of all before you go

hitting those x's i mean there's a ton

of ways you could join us i mean uh

firstly

i like to start with a warm handshake

caden caden

um but thanks for the uh offering though

regardless

we've got you

all right continue oh no i think i i

i think i i think i said my piece there

you know

i just wanna yeah because you know that

i live across the country from you

well listen listen aside from the zapper

right the taser the stun gun whichever

way you want to phrase it again

aside from that you know because again

it does not look like we're going to be

really moving on that kind of of a

position not the split hairs or anything

you know but

but what what other grievances do y'all

have that we that we can try and address

as best we can

this is a fairly major one

which ones is it which one's a fairly

major one no this one

well again i i don't really think that

either of us are really in our positions

uh this isn't about like this isn't

about any of uh

my feelings or anything you do

understand how this looks to

uh not even outsiders but just people

who are watching

so what do you mean by people who are

watching uh the people

who for want for a better term support

chris

well i mean we frankly are not here to

either gain fans or anything we're here

simply i mean we are what we are we're

salesmen

you know yeah yeah yeah we're just

selling regulations with chris that's

the best that we can that's the best

that we can do

yes and as a result of that or

hello yeah okay yeah kaden is the

salesman but

the other members of of of our group

here uh you know uh you know

kayden uh owen bell and

annabelle and cabell anyway um

but yeah we have genuine we have a

couple of genuine psychic types

and they no i'm sorry yeah i'm sorry

chris you missed the other

like seven other members

there's a prey tour said that oh sorry

who's this uh who am i speaking to

is this caden who's this

yeah this one's kaden oh yeah sure sure

do do the stupid [ __ ] gay voice i

don't [ __ ] care

oh god it's just one fake accent

like like do it it doesn't [ __ ]

matter

of which one of the 13 other members am

i speaking to

well this one here is kaden i mean

if if you want to speak to the others

you'd have to go check out our other

projects

but as of now are you telling me i'm

going to have to sign up to their only

fans to speak to them

speak to that that is one very

productive project that we happen to

have we're very pleased on that one we

you should consider subscribing

[Laughter]

is my [ __ ] good enough is my [ __ ]

goodness oh

but you know i could i could i could for

sure take a peek

you can take a peek i could take a piece

so so what are we arguing about at the

moment like like what

[ __ ] are people flinging at the moment

what do you mean like what what do you

mean what [ __ ] are people flinging at us

like uh

like what what do you mean the uh any of

it

i don't know like any of it like what

[ __ ]

does your totally real company have oh

yeah that too

well again what we want to what we want

to run past y'all

is our no i don't care

i i don't care about your gay [ __ ]

like i want to make a buck off chris

yeah do that that's fine what [ __ ] is

being flung

well there is no [ __ ] being flung right

now so far it's daisies

so i don't get why is there a problem

that's what's going on look what appears

to be

going on which again i fully understand

i fully understand i really do is that

like

there is a major major suspicion cloud

that follows

us that everything that we're doing is

with an end goal that is negative to cwc

and we

we understand that suspicion entirely i

mean the track record behind

the anybody who does what we do is a

[ __ ] mile long all the way back to

2009

but i assure you the reason why that we

have been more successful monetarily

than anyone else's because we're not

here

for malevolent reasons oh that's

terrible

um you're implying that uh

a lot of the people who have dealt with

cwc

have been in it for monetary gains

there's lots of implications that's a

fact yeah well sorry yeah that's a fact

but there's lots of people that

have been uh involved the cwc as you

call him

um they could have made a buck

off him but they didn't because they

cared

and i guess it's like so so uh

i guess pray towards stance or they

don't care

they just want to make a buck well it it

seems to us

that no i mean if you didn't

if you'd if this plan has been working

out fantastically

if you haven't made it yeah i didn't

know he's made a smart enough movie

the smartest move

shut the [ __ ] up and shut the [ __ ] up

and listen now this the smartest shut

the [ __ ] up

and listen shut the [ __ ] up and listen

and listen to anyone shut the [ __ ] up

and listen like i've said it like

five times now and you have now listen

hold on now we're listening we're

listening hurry on talking shut the [ __ ]

up and listen no

please go ahead please let them talk

there's been there's been

lots and lots of people that could have

made a bug of chris

they didn't why

why didn't they well because they

weren't smart enough

do you really believe that

actually that's a valid statement right

there

especially we recognized the value of

partnering with cwc we recognize the

value of her talent and what she brings

to the board

and by doing that we've profited now i

understand the controversy we've raised

but

frankly we we don't intend on really

moving that much

we're very pleased with where we are

right now

if you have a grievances we're happy to

hear them and we

love feedback you know regardless of how

much it hurts us

but we interact just uh interact with

the retards who buy [ __ ]

i i think it's that simple what i said

earlier you know if you want to be a

businessman or whatever

interact with people keep the optics up

and

that's pretty much it that's what that's

our intentions

that's our intentions

so any anything further yeah does anyone

else have anything to

discuss with uh pray with me no i don't

want i don't know i don't want to get

pissed on until it's raining

no chris why why do you trust these

people

because they have proven themselves in

person

but they're kind of because they bought

you things

no that's the reason though isn't it

that not initially not

initially they proved that to

us without buying us

anything okay not in the

initially that is the truth

eventually yes that did come to be but

they have proven themselves very very

much

so you're going to choose them over us

is that how this is going to go

now don't try and make this a division

thing

we're just here

we don't want to have to feel like we're

picking sides or

anything well i think you pick sides

earlier

i mean besides which between let me

let me just say let me just say where

our our goal

is not to take anything our goal is not

to be

you know just screwing with christine

our goal here is just to make cash

with her as a partnership right now

why don't you pay her more we do an

income split is kind of funny

400 yeah it really is about a few weeks

ago they paid me 400 bucks

we're doing this 6 000 they made

let me just say let me just say

let me just say here that our

relationship

with christine the friendships

and the business side that we have with

her is

not intended for we're not going to move

on it you know we don't want to

we don't want to take any we don't want

you all to think that we're trying to

take anything from y'all right we don't

want to

screw around with sides because this

shouldn't have to be a war

right now i i understand

that you know that there's a lot of

animosity there's a lot of animosity

here there's a lot of uh

general just it's discomfort right

where were we before i uh what happened

i'm pretty sure i was saying uh stop

[ __ ] lying oh

well they're saying they don't want to

take uh christine away from us that uh

they're

not trying to this is not christian

being taken away from anybody okay

no oh all i'm saying is uh

hey and i said it i said this before

this uh this whole conversation uh began

uh what did i say to you cwc

don't [ __ ] trust them one [ __ ] bit

make a buck off them but don't trust

them

oh good grief spunk you're not thou you

channel vows sometimes

but he acts independently and you act

independently

by the way how's that old lady did you

tend to in the hospital lately

what sorry the ect one

yesterday

the who sorry do you remember val the

the constant uh electroshock therapy one

oh yeah the uh yep um

she's doing totally fine and she's

brilliant

and one of the most amazing people i've

ever spoken to

okay like she's lovely

ah at least ten percent of the time

now pray now caden i need to let you

know because

here's the thing you know there's a

reason why people

on the internet no matter who you talk

to tend to criticize those

who make money off of chris right in any

shape or form right

you know there's a reason for that well

most of the time people assume that this

whole

money-making scheme is simply based in

enablement

oh this is where we are like i don't

give a [ __ ] about this like

whole gay [ __ ] it's like a

well if if you don't if you don't give a

[ __ ] my friend then then what are you

worried about

if nothing has been wrecked or or [ __ ]

around

oh yeah this is what we are like old i

mean

my internet died and i missed like i

guess the past uh like

10 minutes worth of conversation so you

have to like dial it way way back

to like 10 minutes ago just for me do it

just for me

what's happening well we've got your

back

my friend allow me to elucidate the uh

well i'm trying to think of a of

of a nicer way to pick around this right

but at the very core

we're you know we're still in the same

place of mistrust there's there's not

really been any movement

you know which there's no movement on

on my things like make a buck off c

c make a buck off him oh that's where we

were

oh that's where we were there has been

10

people that could have made a buck off

cwc

but they didn't and you thinking you're

the first person to do it

maybe those people could have but chose

not to

right oh of course of course it's a

personal choice

yeah yeah i guess it might have been a

personal choice for those people

but yeah ethics is totally personal yes

but then then it comes down to an ethics

thing doesn't it like

do you make a buck off cwc

but what is unethical about our

partnership with cwc

i don't know i don't

i'm trying to rewind back like to the

past

10 minutes ago i'm trying to you have

this like

little spot and uh carry on please

uh what what i'm trying to say is if we

haven't taken anything from cwc if we

haven't been

violent or rude or mean if all we've

done is

pay them then what negative outcome has

any of this had

that's right uh defense

implements seem to argue

i mean it just it just really is

it's like and at least in uh in my

opinion it's it's as simple as that

we're not

here to [ __ ] around that much at all

we're here to just

make it out so like

where the [ __ ] does this uh this whole

avon

and uh miss miss whatever her name is

where does this come into play that was

a whole

totally different thing the vaughan

person is an entirely different person

we have no clue who this idiot is all we

know

is that so has so as chris relayed to

you the uh the stuff about like the the

wine that they left

all that [ __ ] uh

possibly okay well just just to recap

vaughn had a courier some guy in the

rutgersville area

drop off a big basket of goodies at

chris's door along with a very very

cryptic note claiming that

what was it what was it christine they

that you needed to contact them with a

yes or no about joining their cult by

march

10th or something like that yeah

something like that and also

also getting content with a bunch of

people that to me was

random but to them was definitely like

oh yeah we just drew their names out

ahead

so i've been like hey tell chris they oh

yeah that's like

that's my excites you

talk to them all over the place and be

and be offending more people like

like chris used to then back then but

obviously that's not going to happen

these days

i mean even though i even though i did

end up doing only because magic chant

till

made the suggestion that i do that just

a few times in order to move this lawn

just to humor

the guy so we can eventually get the

information out of him and finally find

out that he's

his name is daniel he lives he most

majority lives in virginia he works at

martha's vineyard he trucks around

sometimes

he's lived in vegas his number was from

vegas

and so forth

freaking bats are [ __ ] moving

and after we confirmed all that

information that we have foreseen

confirmed with who

confirmed with who confirmed with who

said confirmed

the information with who

who confirmed that information all right

well

bella all right well confirmed the

information but don't tell anybody

outside this group

about that you know that was leaked a

little bit but aside from that

i we confirmed it now but she had she

confirmed it

she told us and that allowed us to

confirm it

with mewtwo with magic and with

christine here still in my body this is

still sonic you probably have seen one

nice

i haven't talking here

[Music]

could seem like some controlled

opposition given that

even i had a difficult time tracking

down anything

and i'm a whole lot better than someone

who dropped out of [ __ ] art college

i did not you megan you're great

oh i didn't drop out my uh never mind

that's

that's a different story we were making

jokes we were making jokes about [ __ ]

megan

right yeah

but anyway the whole thing the whole

thing with danny boy there

that's done done over with we made an

example out of hymns in the world and

the other trolls that

he's facing he hasn't his consequences

for just

basically wanting attention all over the

place well not appreciating his wife and

child at home

freaking furry with big breasts and all

that

oh holy crap

so from now on we need to look to

praetor for information

well information on what well

information just any this where

applicable and possible

we're happy to help you all whenever we

can yeah

oh no you love conspiracy theories uh

what do you think about uh

controlled opposition

i'm going to take a moment to use a

toilet be right back

okay special

continue on at least i'd be

should slinky start a fake argument just

to like

make some noise until we get back

what's a what's a frighteningly

controversial topic you got in the on

how do you feel about neapolitan ice

cream

only the uh

[Laughter]

only the two difficult discussions it's

not it's not even a difficult one it's

not even difficult i just had to

picture a neapolitan ice cream and i had

to pick the two whitest ones

it's not even hard like it's not even

hard

i just had to go the the pink and the

white one were good

[ __ ] right it always ends up

yeah like you you put a neapolitan ice

cream like

tub the brown's always the last one to

eat

really see i i i'm i'm a fan of all

three

but i i personally feel that strawberry

is a slept on flavor

no one nobody gets it

it's a watch it's a slept on flavor

you know people just yeah no i know

gets eaten first strawberry second and

brown just gets chucked in the bin

really that much against that much

against chocolate

i'm so racist

ice cream oh shoot we were trying to

bring race into our perspective

i personally don't like strawberry in my

cake

then your cake no now how do you feel

about ice cream cake versus a normal

cake

i just prefer them to be separated

but that's just i understand that

personally i i'd kill for a sheet cake

you know one of those nice vanilla based

ones i just love that

kills

he's chris like

i don't know i mean there was like some

shouting or some [ __ ] [ __ ]

maybe chris ate something spicy now

there's

issues to be had the bathrooms become a

war room

maybe you heard that you throw out the

chocolate part of neapolitan ice cream

maybe maybe

i don't get what the [ __ ] problem is

i don't get why

why everyone's [ __ ] arguing over [ __ ]

i'll throw

i will throw [ __ ] into the uh into the

ship pile

it's just it's i don't really understand

why we

what is the problem we understand

suspicion but we

again don't want to be caught you sit

there and say win

you sit there and say weave like who the

[ __ ] is we

don't understand i'm just see i'm just

personally i'm just one guy but i just

use we to try and refer to the

collective of praetor as an idea

you know just cause like when people

when people hear about this whole thing

going on they don't think [ __ ] kaden

they think [ __ ] prater

right so i just use it as a collective

phrase right

but what oh wait hold on what's that

oh no i don't i want to [ __ ] throw

that in there god damn

no i don't know throw it in there throw

it in there

don't duck the [ __ ] out he said so let's

do it

like do it controversial statements

about neapolitan ice cream i don't want

it

i don't want to get too i don't really

i'm just saying i'm just

saying we don't want to we don't want to

throw more [ __ ] in on the stink pile

you know are you telling me the the

praetor

prefers chocolate ice cream well now now

don't put such vile words in our mouth

i'm

more going i'm more saying that

chocolate is not the best ice cream but

it doesn't deserve to be bin

food you know it's like i'd still take a

scoop of it but if i had a vanilla and

strawberry in front of me i'd much

prefer those i think if there's like any

kind of like really bad ice cream flavor

i don't think i've actually had it you

know unless it's like freezer burnt but

that's not even a flavor that's about

quality

tiger tail kind of sucks

tiger tail what kind is that true what

the bane flavor is but it's it's got

black licorice in it

black licorice that's controversial

that's controversial

the most controversial as red licorice

especially since that's sheets exclusive

flavor for g

fuel what are your thoughts on twizzlers

they're okay they're pretty good really

and to me the uh

the red licorice g fuel actually tastes

pretty good but it's not one i would

have

on the constant i like biting the ends

off and using them as straws

that actually works but but it's all

dependent like what do you drink out of

it like what do you drink out of it

because if it's something like if it's

something norm if it's something like

sweet i feel like that's excusable like

soda or something

but if you're like water or if you're

sipping like water or milk i

i would cry i'd sob openly [ __ ] idiot

drinks milk through a twizzler

i thought that's what i'm that's

it's probably going up the other end

isn't it it is i'm shoving

up my [ __ ] right now so so y'all

actually i've got to go ahead

and go i've got to go ahead and go but

you know i i want to apologize for what

happened earlier i did i did get a

little heated you know a little bit of

sarcasm getting thrown around there

you know sorry about that again we don't

want to [ __ ] stir up trouble when

they're done

oh no no you're a total [ __ ] [ __ ]

caden

you're a total [ __ ] [ __ ] caden

right now i'm just like

no i and you will be and i guarantee you

you will be

at least this uh situation merits being

i gary i guarantee you by the end of the

night i'm going to be speaking to your

mother

and telling you how terrible her son is

honestly if you end up getting me a

paddling from mommy i'm going to be so

upset

i hope you should be honestly i started

out trying to be really nice

getting more and more suspicious and

creepy and mean and

why do we have to have all this sarcasm

and negativity talking [ __ ]

all right but it's fun like yo

i mean [ __ ] fast

it's a lot like it's a laugh and it's

fun like it's people [ __ ] with people

for laughs yeah every time mr c

picked an argument like chris she failed

at arguing back

at the very at the very heart of what is

funny

like are you joking like do you do you

not think how like it's funny

arguing over neapolitan ice cream

do you not get that like it's funny

arguing over nothing period oh

most arguments are literally trivial

and nonsense they don't need to yeah

yeah but

do you not understand that it can like

you can have a funny argument where

people like

pretend to be one side of an argument

and

to pretend to be the other side

we're we're trying to break the

discourse

because discourse it's like it's it's

like oh oh

[ __ ] you prato [ __ ] you kaden and what

would you say back

well i would just say now has a racial

bias against brown ice cream

i have i have a terrible racial bias

against ice cream

like it's fun you know like

like it like it's fun like none of this

has been

aggressive like at all it's all been a

laugh

i just like unfortunately

i wish it was a racial serious and like

actually talk to us like you never

actually talk to us and we'll like at

you and we'll be like

hey how are you doing or how did it go

and you'll just ignore us and you'll be

online and we know that you see it but

you'll just ignore us

working around all [ __ ] hours it's so

boring all i can say

all i can say this okay kaden listen

listen very closely and i want you to

know this

if you do not consent any of us ahead of

time without warning

you will regret this and you'll regret

this sooner than you think [ __ ] up cap

no you should probably talk to josh hold

on hold on

i regret this what do you mean what do

you what do you mean uh

like cons like consent what do you mean

by that you

wha what do i what do you need from me

here

and actually talk things through and

supposed to just agree with whatever

your stupid brain comes up with just

give us a heads up

no it's no it's just like just be funny

like just be

funny that's all i want to do and you've

done

i and hayden

whatever you want to be uh known as

you've done the funny

for me personally you've made me laugh

and i hope

i made you laugh as well you did you did

so so it's like never never looked funny

chocolate parts of the cream again

no that's it chuck it in the bin chuck

it in the bin mate

or or sell it to somebody because

we could bottle it and put it on the

etsy

just make it funny just be funny and the

problem is

like praetor like sits there and tries

to be like this super secret society

that makes a buck off chris and doesn't

want anything to do with anyone else

it's like i mean personally i think

you've done well

like you've made me laugh at least

well you get a pass i appreciate it you

get a pass from me

well i mean not to again you know we we

had a we had a good

we had a good banter rolling here and

not to get too sappy but you're you're

not you're not such a bad guy yourself

now we we appreciate you

no problem no problem well listen

i you know i i appreciate the talk and

i'll be

and if if more participation like within

chat and with

stuff you know just being less of a

lurker if y'all are looking for that

that's perfectly fine i'd be happy to

start that's literally anyone

any of us what is more interaction

like yeah i see it well if if more

interaction is what you want i'd be

there that's not a problem uh i that i

that'll consent to i'll swing by a lot

more often i'm sorry

about the kind of disconnect here right

because i think that's what most of this

is born out of

is just a disconnect yeah but there but

there's also like the horrible

amounts of like uh sake [ __ ] you put

through to people like in dms and stuff

oh no there is [ __ ] horrible

like it's not nice at all just like just

be nice you know

just be nice i do my best should i do my

best

no no but you don't you sit there and

you better you're like oh

[ __ ] you mkr and uh i'll speak to anyone

but mkr it's like oh [ __ ] you

like why be a [ __ ] about it like just

just be funny

you know just be funny we used to feel

negatively towards mkr but our thoughts

have changed once we learned that she

does not in fact drink milk through

twizzlers that she

did she resigned to herself

[Laughter]

mkr consider this an official apology

from you know official i don't even want

an official apology

i want a written apology

anymore i don't want to hear you

speaking [ __ ] i don't want any more

[ __ ] shut up

shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ] up shut

the [ __ ] up i don't want any more i

don't want you to

stop speaking please i want a written

apology

i'm sorry mkr about the twizzlers

i'm sorry milk and twizzlers

yeah no i want it written like i want

you to type it out

type it out in the place school child

type type it out say

i i am sorry in chaos that's all it take

that's all it takes to please y'all

give me one that's it yeah that's it

please let me hold on i need like

classic classical music

or something put on the simpsons

despite everything that's it and all the

yelling i'm glad that we can all

actually

release reach to a good at a positive

outcome i feel a little better hearing

that

apologize i do

i do my dearest mkr

you want me to read it out shall i read

it out so far

the danger is concerned now the argument

shall i do an

anglo uh should i do an anglo reading of

it

you got a pretty good narrator's voice

swing it by us

go hold on i'm taking a bit here i'm

taking a bit here

do the voice please well

we all want to get drunk one night

i can do it in the fill voice if you

want yeah i mean there's multiple voices

ready to go

megan can do it too yes

[ __ ]

okay

written apology to mkr

and uh by the looks of it working on

it's been written

it's been written but it's been written

too long like

i think you're well i i can't you're

taking too long to write it

you're taking too long to write it just

write it

your caveman fingers you've uh like

you've smashed like you've got the few

guys on the keyboard

from the simpsons yes the darling

let's get the darling one down when's

amber gonna get one of those

a long time from now

it's a ham hock tap situation i'm

telling you

if you take this long uh hayden

hayden is that right i

is like the pr guy for pratal

is that right is this what i'm getting

at that's close enough

yeah yeah yeah he's still typing out

terry davis

i'm telling you if you take this long to

post it i mean

it better be funny and if it's not funny

i'll delete it

and make you rewrite it again

if i slap i love you at the end is that

too much or is that

what do you think uh just don't be a

[ __ ]

like i want a genuine apology

be serious just be serious

of course sirius is our middle name

right next to kevin

right

hold on nearly done here

for sincerity and actually could someone

really quick run past me how to spell

sincerely

i appear to have totally botched that i

know how

i know how to spell it take it away

[Music]

e no r e r

it's in chat

another one

thank you mkr do you accept our apology

empire please

we're back no no not one [ __ ] bit

what why the [ __ ] would that ever i mean

it's not

a real apology but now i'm obsessed yeah

well we do what we can we do what we can

i probably should have i proud i

probably should have left here a while

ago

we you know we hope that at least some

things were at least semi-solved

uh i no i don't think they were

like that's all they were do i think

anything at all was ever

solved not even in the slightest

not even what are you gonna do the uh

the testing video

you promised the testing video

can cwc uh like tase himself

on video for lolz well

what i'd volunteer what

what i said

in serious and a joke i would

look are you sure though like we had a

whole discussion about why

it's a bad idea are you we'll talk about

this later

okay oh no no i really gotta go before

we make any

rash decisions that involve cwc being

zapped

obviously but i mean this body is part

of electricity literally

so i could take it if you wanted to test

it

rip the piece of electrics out of a

barbecue lighter

i feel like i feel

control over the current like a lighter

battery might be kind of bad

like i don't know where's this piece of

electrics

like what i mean if if you're gonna do

it do it [ __ ] right lad that's all

i'm gonna say

we'll cross the bridges when we come

here for now we must bid you good night

we love you all

have a pleasant one

have a good one hopefully we'll have

your circumstances

all right i've had enough myself and

i'll see you all

later i'll talk to y'all another time

good night

all right see ya chris

all right so stop recording should i

stop recording

yes okay

Analysis

Some Watchmen members complain about Chris's recent payout from Praetor. When Chris brings up that he was paid $400, MKRNightVee objects that Praetor made $6,000. However, the $6,000 figure is revenue, derived from Naught multiplying the OfficialCWCmart price of a Praetor-made medallion by the amount of sales.[7] Without Praetor's expenses known, it is unclear how fair Chris's payout was.

In Virginia, you can legally own a taser without a permit, unless you were convicted of a felony (not to be confused with a misdemeanor).[8][9] This can come as a bit of a shock to readers from some countries like Germany and the United Kingdom, where even the police must have a good reason to use one.

References

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