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Rounding out the [[Unholy Quintet]] of [[White Knights]], [[A-logging|A-logs]], [[Enablers]], and [[Weens]], '''Carpetbaggers''', (sometimes referred to as '''Cloutchasers''') are more successful people in the Chris Chan bubble who attempt to take advantage of Chris' infamy or the events that surround him, for their own personal gain, typically for selfish, dishonest, or immoral purposes. Once deemed as a special breed of [[Weens]], they are now considered their own form of utter annoyance due to their widespread debut during the [[Post-Merge Era]]. On top of that, they are considered some of the absolute worst people to have contacted Chris due to their underhanded tactics to take advantage of his infamy.
'''Carpetbaggers''' are people who exploit Chris's own infamy for personal gain, typically for money. [[Trolls]] of years past sometimes acted this out in order to rile up Chris, such as [[Liquid Chris]], [[Jimmy Hill]], and [[Jeff Ouzuo]], though this was all part of their act, and no attempts at making a business out of it actually occurred. Several Chris orbiters in the late [[2010]]s and [[2020]]s have actually done so for business purposes. In a few cases, carpetbaggers have sought out Chris to collaborate with him.


The main difference between weens and carpetbaggers is that the latter tends to run semi-successful channels, comics, or conspiracies purely for the sake of taking advantage of Chris’ infamy alone. Additionally, whereas Weens tend to be tryhards that fail and make fools of themselves, and therefore are seen as nothing more than a minor annoyance, Carpetbaggers are often successful enough to gain recognition, often gaining online infamy for their dishonest practices. This is also what sets Carpetbaggers apart from all other Quintet groups, in that whereas the other four are full of people that are easily forgotten in Christory, Carpetbaggers leave a much bigger immediate impact on Christory itself, usually in the form of influencing people from the other four groups. Or if their intent for chasing clout is by manipulating him, doing so changes his mindset, which therefore affects his decisions.
==Reasons against carpetbagging==


People like [[Ben Saint]], [[Post-Merge_Era#Winfield_Winfield|Winfield Winfield]], and [[GiBi]] are deemed as Carpetbaggers due to the ways they took advantage of Chris' online infamy and/or the people around him to gain recognition themselves.
==Examples==
===Dillin Thomas===
[[Dillin Thomas]] is a YouTuber who formerly covered Chris. On 2 [[February 2020]], he began selling a "Sonichu and Rosechu Valentines Day" shirt on Teespring, featuring art his girlfriend Taylor had drawn of Sonichu and Rosechu.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20210802031401/https://twitter.com/MerloTart/status/1422032803424727046</ref> When Dillin promoted the shirt on Twitter, Chris replied, expressing interest in one of them.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#Sonichu and Rosechu shirt]]</ref>


==Important Factors==
In the wake of the [[Affair with Mother]], Chris was arrested at [[Regency Inn Richmond]] while wearing the shirt. Dillin decided to further capitalize on this by relisting the shirt on Redbubble with the title "Chris Chan Arrest Shirt".<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20210802031723/https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/Chris-Chan-Arrest-Shirt-by-DillinThomasDHT/84254092.WFLAH</ref>


===Chris' presence on the Internet===
===Ethan Ralph===
On a continuum between ''internet nobody'' and ''web celeb'', Chris would occupy the halfway point. He's documented enough to garner comprehensive coverage on [[CWCki|this very Wiki]], but not enough to warrant a [[Wikipedia]] article. He has been referenced by a multitude of multimedia creators, yet he isn't exactly a household name. He doesn't have the charisma required to be "Kardashian famous," yet he has the oddity.  
After the fallout of the [[incest]] revelations, Ethan Ralph jumped on the opportunity to exploit Chris for views. Ethan, who had a history of vitriolic feelings towards [[Null]], sought to interview Chris, in particular about Null.<ref>https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1421892854973091848 [https://archive.fo/gZ6MZ (archive)]</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1421893664108949508 ([https://archive.fo/Q7Aft archive])</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1421896486359547905 [https://archive.fo/PSUuX (archive)]</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1421905699391614982 [https://archive.fo/DwR5v (archive)]</ref>


Because of his status on the cusp of fame, covering Chris can look promising. You already have the community of Chris-orbiters, but there's also a large, untapped market of laypeople, many of whom enjoy true crime media.
When Chris was located at [[Regency Inn Richmond]], Ethan livestreamed himself driving to the motel in search of him, knocking on every door on the second floor and [[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2|ordering pizza]] in a failed attempt to lure Chris out. After being kicked from the motel premises for loitering, Ethan soon returned upon being notified that police were in the area and filmed [[Incest Arrest|Chris's arrest]], all the while screaming comments and questions at Chris.


===Incest===
It should also be noted that Ethan goes the extra mile by attempting to sell t-shirts with Chris's likeness on it in his online store,<ref>https://shop.theralphretort.com/the-moment-chris-chan ([https://archive.fo/tCf0U archive])</ref> without the latter's knowledge or permission, with no plans to compensate Chris for any sales made.


During the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]], Chris was getting a huge amount of mainstream attention and many sources tried to capitalize off of his new mainstream infamy to profit.
===Geno Samuel===
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In [[2018]], [[Geno Samuel]] began producing ''[[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'', a video series on YouTube. When Geno submitted his YouTube channel for monetization review, YouTube instead terminated his account over the clips of bullying within the series.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/bpe1lz/comment/enu9fug/ ([https://archive.fo/MBe3t archive])</ref> Geno set up another channel to continue the series.
===After the Orbiter Wave===


==Arguments against Carpetbagging==
Although Geno claimed in [[2023]], while advertising other video projects, that he would be preparing for a "post-CWC timeline,"<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_3pplzbKMZsP5zBH_6SVJQ/community?lb=Ugkx1NS-4BZN8YLim5ATFO2M6WDj1qzPHZ5P ([https://archive.fo/hBQKJ archive])</ref> he instead doubled down. Later that year, Geno began selling items based on Chris's infamy without his approval. These include knockoff ''Sonichu'' [[medallions]] and a shirt with "WANT WOMAN!" printed on it (a reference to Chris's infamous outfit at [[Fridays After Five]]). Geno did not compensate Chris over using his ''Sonichu'' character.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/18i2bgw/chris_responds_to_a_customer_buying_genos/kodn5gj/ ([https://archive.fo/fhEOZ archive])</ref>


===It ultimately takes away the fun of watching Chris===
In response to seeing the items, Chris posted a tweet criticizing the medallions,<ref>[[December 2023 social media posts#Criticizing Geno's medallion product]]</ref> and he also posted a YouTube comment requesting Geno cease selling the shirt.<ref>[[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Geno selling Want Woman shirt]]</ref>
One of the CWCki's biggest mottos is "Nobody trolls Chris better than Chris", meaning that no matter what one plans to do to be the trolling champion, Chris himself still manages to [[Weening#Chris_is_still_the_undisputed_trolling_champion|be a greater obstacle to himself than anyone else can]]. That motto even holds up today.


What several carpetbaggers do not seem to realize is that most of the fun of watching Chris comes from the unusual way he responds to people and events himself.  
===Kenneth Engelhardt===
In [[2022]], [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] wanted to collaborate with Chris on a ''Sonichu''-themed business project during the [[Jail Saga]]. Kenneth envisioned it as an "extended universe" of ''Sonichu''.<ref>[[The Sonichu Project]]</ref>


===Manipulating Chris is not in the least bit impressive===
Upon learning of Chris's scheme to try to pay off [[Barbara Chandler]] to move out of [[14 Branchland Court]], among other disturbing comments, a disgusted Kenneth wrote Chris to inform him that he was planning to kick Chris out of the project. Kenneth told Chris that the project would be run by himself, [[Helena Fiorenza]], and [[Eels and the Egg-man]], by their agreement, and that Sonichu and Rosechu would be "broken down and recreated from scratch."<ref>[[Excommunication letter]]</ref>


If Chris's many, many [[sagas]] have proven anything, it is that he is a gullible numbskull that will never learn from his past mistakes. One may notice that many of these sagas involve Chris being tricked into doing something. Therefore, one may be tempted to go down in Christory as the next best troll by posing as a false ally. To make matters better, manipulating Chris has become far easier than it has before, thanks to his inability to discern reality from fiction. To many, this seems like the perfect opportunity to become noticed by local trolls and win some quick popularity. However, such people rarely take into account how menial this will turn out to be.
Chris ignored Kenneth and stopped responding to his letters. Kenneth has apparently since abandoned his plans.


As much as some people take enabling Chris for granted these days, you must remember that even before the Idea Guys, manipulating Chris was never a new or groundbreaking tactic. As a matter of fact, it is one of the earliest methods of trolling him, as well as the most simplistic. No matter what you do with him, all you need to do is to pretend to give Chris what he wants, confirm a belief he holds dearly, regardless of whether or not you truly feel that way, and then give him directions on how he can achieve it.  
===Luke===
In [[2020]], Luke mailed a large box of random items to Chris - which included things with relevance to Chris like video games. Luke paid Chris to autograph each item. On 8 October, Chris drove to Pennsylvania and dropped off the package at Luke's house.<ref>[[The Place chats - Pennsylvania Trip]]</ref> Luke then listed the items on Mercari as the storefront "CWCStore", but deceptively claimed that the items had belonged to Chris or his family members.<ref>https://archive.ph/ipaiV</ref><ref>https://archive.ph/DRQFv</ref><ref>https://archive.ph/0nb2M</ref>


[[BlueSpike]], for example, was a 13-year-old troll who wanted to take advantage of Chris's lust for having a sweetheart. Chris mistook him for another sweetheart solely due to his voice, and BlueSpike was able to go under the pseudonym of Julie. He then told Chris that his persona would date him under a few conditions in order to tell him to take part in whatever he wanted him to. First, a majority of the trolling involved BlueSpike having phone sex for hours every night as Chris masturbated. Afterward, he decided to further take advantage of the situation by telling him to [[Julie reveals herself|shove his Sonichu medallion up his ass]], and telling him to [[For Julie's Eyes Only|record himself having sex with a blowup doll]]. [[Idea Guys|Does this sound familiar?]]
===Praetor===
In [[September 2020]], [[Praetor]] met with Chris and arranged a business partnership with him.<ref>[[The Place chats (September 2020)#The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)]]</ref> Praetor's first item put up for sale on the group's shop [[OfficialCWCmart]] was a ''Sonichu''-style [[medallion]]. The medallions were produced by Praetor, who paid Chris a royalty for the usage of his ''Sonichu'' character.<ref>[[Praetor#Royalty payment]]</ref>


The reason why trolls like [[Blanca]] and [[Miyamoto]] are important to Christorians is not just because they managed to trick a [[Autism|mentally-handicapped]] man, nor is it because what they did was the least bit honorable in the first place. It was primarily because of the way Chris had responded to said manipulation. Had they only existed today, they would not be nearly as praised, would likely be looked down upon as tryhards, and possibly even disgraced for even attempting to contact Chris. Some notable trolls that used this technique are not even notable for good reasons. Names like BlueSpike and the Idea Guys will still live in infamy for the excessively cruel and unusual techniques they used on Chris to make him harm himself. Aside from that, the last thing anyone would want would be to be associated with a fat, smelly, cross-dressing adult child so out of touch with reality he believes his worldbuilding counts as a [[Chris and work|real job]], just to make him believe that it is okay to continue living like that.
OfficialCWCmart later expanded to other offerings, some produced by Praetor, and some by Chris.


Think about it, if Chris will just believe anything you tell him that easily, sees no problems with being manipulated so long as you act [[Chris and kindness|kind]] to him, and only sees every manipulator as a means to confirm his own crazy theories, do you really think that manipulating him will make you the next trolling sensation? The bottom line is that any attempt to manipulate Chris will not make you stand out from anyone else that has tried to do so, and it can come off as desperate to gain 15 minutes of Internet fame.
In mid-[[2023]], Praetor leader Caden Peck was involved with financing the [[Big Island, VA]] house. Chris currently lives in it and pays rent.


===Haphazard and dishonest journalism spreads misinformation about Christory===
Chris and Praetor's partnership remains active as of [[2024]].


It is essential to remember that the consensus on everything Chris Chan related, as well as how many people are now keeping up with his life story, has changed quite drastically with the new wave of coverage. Consider how people who vaguely heard of him, even mainstream news hosts, legitimately believe that "Chan" is Chris's real last name.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcT9cENf4kg Tucker Carlson clip]</ref> It is more important than ever to make sure that the documentation of Christory is done with integrity in mind.
===Rex Rowan Nabours III===
{{main|Trollsta's Paradise: A True and Honest Tribute to Christian & The Hedgehog Boys}}


For example, the semi-popular Chris Chan "journalist" GiBi attempted to try his hand at being the first to report information regarding the Bella Saga, even when little information was put out. Ignoring the Conflict of Interest, he did this by consulting [[Bella]] herself, who was known to be a habitual liar, especially when it came to her schemes, along with an underaged user in his circle. He then took her word that the [[Suitress]] was the one who manipulated Chris into having sex with his mother, even when those who were paying attention knew that he did it of his own volition and that it was Bella who was encouraging him to keep going.
===Winfield Winfield===
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'''Dylan Winfield''', also known as '''Winfield Winfield''', is a self-published horror novel author, intending his debut novel ''Cult of the Eclipse'' to be the first in a series. Dylan seemed to have found promoting his book by spamming Reddit and Twitter ineffective, so in [[June 2021]] he hit upon the idea of requesting Chris do a video review of his book. Although Chris agreed,<ref>[[June 2021 social media posts#Interdimensional travels]]</ref> the review did not come to pass, particularly due to the subsequent [[incest]] revelations and [[Jail Saga]].


===Haphazard journalism can also result in unneeded drama===
Undeterred, on 6 [[September 2021]], Dylan traveled to [[Ruckersville]], where he trespassed at the yard of [[14 Branchland Court]] while [[Yard Tour (2021)|taking photos and recording video of its neglected state]]. During his video commentary, he advertised his book. The following day, he uploaded the video and messaged [[GiBi]] on Twitter. This resulted in his exposure and doxing on the [[Kiwi Farms]], and several people calling him out on his clout-chasing attempts, after which he deleted his video within an hour, suggesting he was following the thread. [[Autism|Why]], then, he didn't know better is a mystery.
 
A major component of Carpetbaggers that separate them from all other groups represented in the Quintet is that they can have a massive influence on how the other four approach Chris, or people related to him.
 
A major example of this is again from GiBi, who decided to jump on the current Bella bandwagon by being one of the first to document the event. In spite of what little information there was regarding Bella at this time, and despite it being abundantly clear from other sources that Bella was a habitual liar and sociopath, Gibi decided to interview her first and get all of the information regarding the event out of her so-called "hero" in the Chris Chan saga.
 
===Damaging your own reputation===
As with the other groups in the Unholy Quintet, Carpetbaggers risk inflicting severe damage to their own reputation when their efforts backfire.
 
==See Also==
 
*[[Orbiter Wave]]
 
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Revision as of 23:42, 15 February 2025

Carpetbaggers are people who exploit Chris's own infamy for personal gain, typically for money. Trolls of years past sometimes acted this out in order to rile up Chris, such as Liquid Chris, Jimmy Hill, and Jeff Ouzuo, though this was all part of their act, and no attempts at making a business out of it actually occurred. Several Chris orbiters in the late 2010s and 2020s have actually done so for business purposes. In a few cases, carpetbaggers have sought out Chris to collaborate with him.

Reasons against carpetbagging

Examples

Dillin Thomas

Dillin Thomas is a YouTuber who formerly covered Chris. On 2 February 2020, he began selling a "Sonichu and Rosechu Valentines Day" shirt on Teespring, featuring art his girlfriend Taylor had drawn of Sonichu and Rosechu.[1] When Dillin promoted the shirt on Twitter, Chris replied, expressing interest in one of them.[2]

In the wake of the Affair with Mother, Chris was arrested at Regency Inn Richmond while wearing the shirt. Dillin decided to further capitalize on this by relisting the shirt on Redbubble with the title "Chris Chan Arrest Shirt".[3]

Ethan Ralph

After the fallout of the incest revelations, Ethan Ralph jumped on the opportunity to exploit Chris for views. Ethan, who had a history of vitriolic feelings towards Null, sought to interview Chris, in particular about Null.[4][5][6][7]

When Chris was located at Regency Inn Richmond, Ethan livestreamed himself driving to the motel in search of him, knocking on every door on the second floor and ordering pizza in a failed attempt to lure Chris out. After being kicked from the motel premises for loitering, Ethan soon returned upon being notified that police were in the area and filmed Chris's arrest, all the while screaming comments and questions at Chris.

It should also be noted that Ethan goes the extra mile by attempting to sell t-shirts with Chris's likeness on it in his online store,[8] without the latter's knowledge or permission, with no plans to compensate Chris for any sales made.

Geno Samuel

In 2018, Geno Samuel began producing Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History, a video series on YouTube. When Geno submitted his YouTube channel for monetization review, YouTube instead terminated his account over the clips of bullying within the series.[9] Geno set up another channel to continue the series.

Although Geno claimed in 2023, while advertising other video projects, that he would be preparing for a "post-CWC timeline,"[10] he instead doubled down. Later that year, Geno began selling items based on Chris's infamy without his approval. These include knockoff Sonichu medallions and a shirt with "WANT WOMAN!" printed on it (a reference to Chris's infamous outfit at Fridays After Five). Geno did not compensate Chris over using his Sonichu character.[11]

In response to seeing the items, Chris posted a tweet criticizing the medallions,[12] and he also posted a YouTube comment requesting Geno cease selling the shirt.[13]

Kenneth Engelhardt

In 2022, Kenneth Engelhardt wanted to collaborate with Chris on a Sonichu-themed business project during the Jail Saga. Kenneth envisioned it as an "extended universe" of Sonichu.[14]

Upon learning of Chris's scheme to try to pay off Barbara Chandler to move out of 14 Branchland Court, among other disturbing comments, a disgusted Kenneth wrote Chris to inform him that he was planning to kick Chris out of the project. Kenneth told Chris that the project would be run by himself, Helena Fiorenza, and Eels and the Egg-man, by their agreement, and that Sonichu and Rosechu would be "broken down and recreated from scratch."[15]

Chris ignored Kenneth and stopped responding to his letters. Kenneth has apparently since abandoned his plans.

Luke

In 2020, Luke mailed a large box of random items to Chris - which included things with relevance to Chris like video games. Luke paid Chris to autograph each item. On 8 October, Chris drove to Pennsylvania and dropped off the package at Luke's house.[16] Luke then listed the items on Mercari as the storefront "CWCStore", but deceptively claimed that the items had belonged to Chris or his family members.[17][18][19]

Praetor

In September 2020, Praetor met with Chris and arranged a business partnership with him.[20] Praetor's first item put up for sale on the group's shop OfficialCWCmart was a Sonichu-style medallion. The medallions were produced by Praetor, who paid Chris a royalty for the usage of his Sonichu character.[21]

OfficialCWCmart later expanded to other offerings, some produced by Praetor, and some by Chris.

In mid-2023, Praetor leader Caden Peck was involved with financing the Big Island, VA house. Chris currently lives in it and pays rent.

Chris and Praetor's partnership remains active as of 2024.

Rex Rowan Nabours III

Main article: Trollsta's Paradise: A True and Honest Tribute to Christian & The Hedgehog Boys

Winfield Winfield

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Dylan Winfield, also known as Winfield Winfield, is a self-published horror novel author, intending his debut novel Cult of the Eclipse to be the first in a series. Dylan seemed to have found promoting his book by spamming Reddit and Twitter ineffective, so in June 2021 he hit upon the idea of requesting Chris do a video review of his book. Although Chris agreed,[22] the review did not come to pass, particularly due to the subsequent incest revelations and Jail Saga.

Undeterred, on 6 September 2021, Dylan traveled to Ruckersville, where he trespassed at the yard of 14 Branchland Court while taking photos and recording video of its neglected state. During his video commentary, he advertised his book. The following day, he uploaded the video and messaged GiBi on Twitter. This resulted in his exposure and doxing on the Kiwi Farms, and several people calling him out on his clout-chasing attempts, after which he deleted his video within an hour, suggesting he was following the thread. Why, then, he didn't know better is a mystery.

References

The Unholy Hexad
White Knights  • A-logs  • Weens  • Enablers  • Carpetbaggers