This page contains chats from the Watchmen Discord server The Place during January 2021.
Plushes
8 January 2021
KND
| @Sonichu982 who is your favorite care bear?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Chris loves Swift Heart Rabbit.
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Kyle
| That, I didn't expect...
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| She even has the original plush.
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Kyle
| The Angry Birds movie was distressingly good.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| And, yeah, next to SH, there’s the plush of Leonard Bearnstein; the “God Bear”.
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MKRNightVee
| Aww I had that one too!
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Official plush from Regency Square shopping center.
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The Watchmen's Skepticism Over Praetor Medallion Sales
16 January 2021
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Nova 10:25 PM
| Ya.
Oh look the medallions are "sold out", might have something to do with possibly never existing...
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MKR 10:26 PM
| Imagine my fucking surprise
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:26 PM
| They've been selling them, they aren't making that up
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Nova 10:26 PM
| Has anyone actually gotten one?
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MKR 10:26 PM
| Yeah, no one would buy something that badly made at that price
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:26 PM
| We've had a couple users in the cwcki server who bought them and showed pictures of them
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:27 PM
| So they are definitely making money from this op
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Naught 10:27 PM
| Nah, they asked me if I wanted a sample I said no, maybe I should ask for one
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Nova 10:27 PM
| Really proud that they got featured on the CWCki...
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Naught 10:27 PM
| That was odd
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Nova 10:27 PM
| Not suspicious at all.
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MKR's Conspiracy Theory About Praetor & The CWCki Server
17 January 2021
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Nova 06:50 PM
| I don't see many options with Praetor.
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Nova 06:51 PM
| Josh is kind of the nuclear option, but could at least confirm the money and tell them to stop pissing around, they seem to have stopped making videos at least.
[1 tewi[1] reaction]
That would leave them with a 500 dollar hole in the ground and like zero options to continue fucking with Chris.
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Naught 06:55 PM
| What do you think of gibis calculation?
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Nova 06:56 PM
| At 25 bucks each, 250 sales, that's 6250 in revenue.
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Nova 06:56 PM
| They work on a percentage of gross...
So, maybe that's 6250 less 33%
4125, assuming Chris is at the lowest bracket of payment. They'd owe him about 412.50
One of their brackets listed was 50 fucking percent...
So that's, a red flag there...
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 07:11 PM
| I mean, as long as Chris is getting some payment?
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Nova 07:12 PM
| That's one factor, but their influencing is pretty retarded too...
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 07:12 PM
| Well besides the sermon video, what else have they done?
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 08:53 PM
| Militia video?
And if they haven't done any weenish stuff lately, maybe they're just focusing on the business. I still think it's possible that they're not so much malicious as they are naive.
If Josh or one of us just calmly asked if they could stop with the ween stuff, their response would be a good gauge for how willing they are to be cooperative.
If we come at them with hostility right off the bat, that won't come off very well, especially if Chris is actually making money from them (plus he likes them)
If they're talked down and just continue the business while giving chris a fair share, then I see no reason we can't coexist with Praetor.
Of course, if they continue weening anyway, that's a different story, but we won't know unless we try.
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MKR 09:13 PM
| @Lainchu Are you a part of Praetor? (edited)
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:13 PM
| No...
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MKR 09:13 PM
| You sound pretty defensive of them.
Why is that?
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:14 PM
| I'm only saying that we shouldn't assume the worst of them if they haven't done anything that bad, and if chris can financially benefit from them.
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MKR 09:14 PM
| But they have been doing bad things
And we've been at this long enough to know red flags when we see them.
More than red flags actually.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:15 PM
| Has anyone tried just asking them if they could stop with the ween stuff?
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:16 PM
| Like, politely, without aggression?
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MKR 09:16 PM
| Yes
In the beginning
That's why alternative options are being used now.
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Naught 09:16 PM
| ive been trying to speak to them at all, and no response
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MKR 09:18 PM
| Your server has been buying up the medallions, is it possible the cwcki server has a sort of business partnership with them?
Or that they originated from there.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:18 PM
| Lol, you're really getting conspiratorial here?
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MKR 09:18 PM
| I'm not asking to be rude or funny.
I'm serious.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:19 PM
| I said that we had a couple of users who had bought the medallions and shared pictures of them.
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MKR 09:19 PM
| Yes but those are the only known purchases.
So far.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:20 PM
| Nobody's been advertising for Praetor in the cwcki server
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MKR 09:20 PM
| Their business practices are shady so...
Ok
It might still help if you could keep your eyes open for any talk about them there.
It's just a hunch but I think they're lower tier members
Again, let me make it clear, I'm not saying the cwcki server is behind this.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:22 PM
| Well, what you said really did sound like an accusation...
And I always keep my eyes open
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MKR 09:23 PM
| What I'm hypothesizing is that they are hiding in there. The way they reacted to getting on the cwcki was pure joy so it would be stupid to think they wouldn't want to pe part of the server itself.
Get over it already.
Our dumb playtime feud isn't what this is about
But I appreciate it
As a group they act strong, but if I've learned anything from experience. Find a weak link, or any link, separate it from the others and it will squeal.
They immediately start pointing fingers at eachother.
DonSip[2]
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:26 PM
| I haven't had any indication of a member or members who are part of the server that are also part of Praetor
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Naught 09:27 PM
| these people seem the type to lurk as seen by how they've lurked for years and urked here
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:27 PM
| Given how little the Praetor main account on Discord gets use, it's probable that the other members don't use discord that much
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MKR 09:27 PM
| They wouldn't be so obvious
Pfffft
Lainchu my naive boy
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Naught 09:28 PM
| I'm telling about how they operate overall
talking*
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:28 PM
| Well, if they're just lurking, then there's no way to know it's them unless their names are unbelievably obvious
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Naught 09:28 PM
| doggo[3] ooperate
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Nova 09:28 PM
| Probably lurks on somethings, I'm open to the idea, but they seem like such simps.
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Naught 09:29 PM
| hey mkr join the call, cats being a bitch
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MKR 09:29 PM
| The say things when hit with special autistic stimulation
Ok lol
Hold on
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Nova 09:29 PM
| Which call?
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Naught 09:29 PM
| [Discord invite link]
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Naught 09:30 PM
| I forgot itd here
It's
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:30 PM
| Have fun on your movie night
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 09:30 PM
| I'd join, but as usual, my Sunday's are booked
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MKR 10:21 PM
| @Lainchu cat says your dissatpointed in me? :,C
I thought we had something special.
That's oki
You'll grow to love me, they all do eventually. Except cat, he likes himself more.
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MKR's Tantrum Over The WCT
17 January 2021
- Main article: The Place chats - MKR-WCT Infighting
The Watchmen Think Chris Should Get All of Praetor's Sales Money
17 January 2021
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Naught 01:21 PM
| They popped online
[Numerous web links]
@Josh praetor is active
GiBi did some calculation, nova nigel and Josh will likely correct it (edited)
236 sales
$25 dollars each
That's a nice $6k they got there
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MKR 01:28 PM
| Cwc better get almost all of it
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Naught 01:29 PM
| agreed
Ridiculous
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Asking About Censoring Names For The Journey to the Merge
20-21 January 2021
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
20 January 2021
Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:17 PM
| Alright, I've finished compiling a group of Chris's merge statements and conversations, and I'm gonna post them soon. I'm gonna cut out as much extraneous info as I can, but I wanted to know: who wants their information censored? And how much of it? Just icon, just name, or both, or neither? I'm going to be doing neither, myself, as I've got nothing to hide as Lainchu.
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Nova 10:18 PM
| I guess if its at all relevant, I don't mind.
Chris ok this?
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:18 PM
| Yes
He told me to "use my discretion" and that's what I did
[Replying to "I guess if its at all relevant, I don't mind."]
Ok
Other people who show up in the screencaps are @Val , @MKR , @Neko Onyx (Kat) , @ภคยﻮђՇ , @Peachy , @KND , and Praetor
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Nova 10:21 PM
| Well, fuck Praetor.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:21 PM
| Let me know what you want me to do with your respective screennames.
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Nova 10:21 PM
| They do jack shit.
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Peachy 10:21
| PMI don’t really care about my info 🤷♀️
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:22 PM
| [Replying to "I don’t really care about my info 🤷♀️"]
Okay, you also mention living in [REDACTED] in the screencaps. Is that okay or do you want that taken out?
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Peachy 10:22 PM
| That part should be taken out probably 🤷♀️ For safety cx
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:23 PM
| Got it
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Nova 10:23 PM
| Not really a lot, just merge stuff, so it should be easy to comb through.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:24 PM
| Chris also makes mention of @ภคยﻮђՇ and @Neko Onyx (Kat) living in California
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The WCT 10:25 PM
| Never trust Chris with personal information. lol
thankfully, that's all I told Chris and never got too specific.
Almost everybody knows I'm a Californian.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:26 PM
| So it's fine for you?
And what about your Discord name and icon?
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The WCT 10:28 PM
| That's all fine.
[1 yes[5] reaction]
I haven't been bombarded with DMs and Pizzas (if I get doxed) yet.
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Nova 10:29 PM
| Never had a rando DM me, actually.
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The WCT 10:31 PM
| Where I draw the line though when it comes to giving information to Chris is my actual name.
this should be obvious btw.
Hell, even Marvin made this clear to me once.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:33 PM
| No personal info is revealed, just Discord names and icons, but I know some people can be sensitive to that too
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Nova 10:34 PM
| I suppose I kind of ask a lot of questions.
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The WCT 10:34 PM
| It really comes down to certain individuals at the end of the day.
I'm fine with it as long as sensitive information within those messages aren't revealed at all.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:37 PM
| Sensitive as in?
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Nova 10:37 PM
| Stuff that Dillhole will say more than "wow dood" at, or something. (edited)
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The WCT 10:38 PM
| [Replying to "Sensitive as in?"]
If you want, you can DM me screenshots of the messages and I'll review each of them.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:39 PM
| I'll send them here when I've gotten everyone's answers
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The WCT 10:41 PM
| I also haven't gotten any DMs or Friend Requests from Smoky's crew since I left their servers and unfriended all of them.
Guess they never cared at all. lol
Oh well, people come and go.
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21 January 2021
KND 12:38 AM
| @Lainchu i guess ill stay out of christory since im lucky enough to not be included.
censor me up.
ples
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 12:39 AM
| Sure
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MKR 12:40 AM
| Censor me too
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Nova 12:41 AM
| Is it still possible? I mean, he talks a lot and I interject.
@Lainchu Would it impact the quality to redact me?
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 12:45 AM
| No, it wouldn't. I'd just color everyone differently so they can be differentiated.
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Nova 12:45 AM
| Alright, do that then, wasn't aware of the format.
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Val 04:25 AM
| [Replying to "Other people who show up in the screencaps are @Val , @MKR , @Neko Onyx (Kat) , @ภคยﻮђՇ , @Peachy , @KND , and Praetor"]
Name and profile picture out please if possible <3
[1 yes[5] reaction]
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Nova 04:26 AM
| What did Paedo LLC even say?
Usually they keep the merge stuff out of it.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 04:29 AM
| Oh, they didn't say anything in the screencaps. They were just @ed once by Chris in a message (about the sermon).
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Nova 04:29 AM
| Ah, fuck it, leave it in.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 04:29 AM
| The only consequence of leaving their name uncovered is revealing the fact that they're in the same Discord server as us.
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Nova 04:30 AM
| If the message is still there, people are going to make the connection.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 04:30 AM
| True
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Nova 04:37 AM
| They made the sermon, Chris ain't going to ask anyone else about it.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 06:53 AM
| @ภคยﻮђՇ do you want your name or icon censored in the merge screencaps?
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Naught 06:53 AM
| suppose so, yes, thanks in advance
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 06:53 AM
| Yes to both?
And np
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 06:54 AM
| Okay, so that's me, Neko, and Peachy uncensored; everyone else will be censored (edited)
I'll finish up the files tomorrow
[2 jace[6] reactions]
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The Watchmen Complain About Chris's Payout
21 January 2021
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
KND 12:55 AM
| good to hear that chris got paid some at least
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The WCT 01:00 AM
| he deserves every last penny.
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MKR 01:00 AM
| Yes, but if they got 6000, 400 is hardly enough
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KND 01:01 AM
| whats the date on praetor's instagram post showing chris getting paid?
id hope that was only the first check.
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The WCT 01:02 AM
| If he's not getting at least half of the 6000, we got a problem.
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Nova 01:03 AM
| Their agreements work in 10,20,40 and 50% of gross after tax.
I figured about 33% off revenue is a reasonable gross, ergo, Chris is in the 10%.
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Reviewing the Journey to the Merge, Opposition to Doppelganger Content, MKR Asks if We Have Met Before
21-22 January 2021
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
21 January 2021
Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:05 PM
| Here are the edited images. Everyone involved, please make sure that you are censored to your liking. I'm pretty sure I got every instance, but it still merits a double-check, just in case.
[File attachment]
[2 🤔 reactions]
It also won't be named "Watchmen's Place Merge Ramblings" when on the CWCki
@ภคยﻮђՇ @Nova @Neko Onyx (Kat) @Val @KND @Peachy
@MKR you've been cut out of the images completely
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Nova 10:06 PM
| Why are some of the formats different?
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:07 PM
| Just the way the software made them when I censored the names
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Naught 10:07 PM
| What article is this for?
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The WCT 10:07 PM
| So I'm censored out too? @Lainchu
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Nova 10:07 PM
| Ah, PNG is better for quality, I think its supposed to be loseless.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:07 PM
| The ones that were just cropped were PNGs, while the ones that were censored converted to JPGs
[Replying to "So I'm censored out too? @Lainchu"]
I didn't censor you per your request, but I can if you changed your mind
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:08 PM
| [Replying to "What article is this for?"]
Thinking of calling it "The Journey to the Merge" or something like that
Since that's kind of what Chris framed it as
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Nova 10:09 PM
| The new summer blockbuster.
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Naught 10:09 PM
| So, it's an article about the merge?
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The WCT 10:09 PM
| I'll review the screenshots before I make a decision. @Lainchu
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:09 PM
| [Replying to "So, it's an article about the merge?"]
More or less
It's a voluntary release of information, basically
I'm framing it as what "Lainchu" would chronicle it as
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The WCT 10:11 PM
| After review:
you're good to go. (when it comes to the screenshots containing me)
[1 yes[5] reaction]
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Naught 10:11 PM
| @Lainchu what's the article about?
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Nova 10:11 PM
| Oh ya, Chris' metal disk thing.
[1 🤔 reaction]
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:12 PM
| [Replying to "@Lainchu what's the article about?"]
It's not gonna be an analysis, just a compilation of Chris's textwalls
It's like the Discord Q&As: they're more for recordkeeping of Chris's words
It's just gonna be a transcription of what he wrote here
In those screenshots
Like a leak, except it's happening with Chris's consent
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The WCT 10:15 PM
| If Chris and the others are fine with it, there shouldn't be an issue.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:16 PM
| Well, the Chris part is covered
The others part is happening right now
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:20 PM
| People involved, let me know if everything looks good or needs adjustment as soon as you are able, please. Thanks.
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Nova 10:21 PM
| Mostly focused on Chris, still looking.
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The WCT 10:21 PM
| [Replying to "People involved, let me know if everything looks good or needs adjustment as soon as you are able, please. Thanks."]
always.
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Nova 10:21 PM
| Chris went a whole month without saying anything?
Oh wait, just sorted wrong.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:21 PM
| No, I picked and chose what seemed like the most interesting stuff he had to say that wasn't repetitive and had to do with the merge
I also cut out any unrelated conversation, including drama with Opuscon, Ben Saint, Cirrusfire, etc
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Nova 10:23 PM
| We're going to get an influx of doppelgangers with the nov 22, maybe?
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:24 PM
| Chris gets a lot of those already, tho. Just usually centered around things other than "alternate of Chris" specifically
Like alt Sonichu/Magi-Chan/Rosechu, etc
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Nova 10:25 PM
| Suppose anyone smart enough to have deduced from the drachenlord thing or a few prior things didn't come in, so maybe some failtrolls on Twitter, should probably remind Chris of this so he at least takes the Twitter with a grain of salt.
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MKR 10:51 PM
| Ok.
But you didn't have to cut me out entirely? Just censor my name.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:54 PM
| I didn't do it on purpose, it just ended up that way
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MKR 10:54 PM
| Is this a "because you don't like me" kind of thing? Not that it really matters lol. Just be careful what you actually do put in.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:54 PM
| Sometimes you'd reply after a conversation was over, so your part would just be cut out
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 10:55 PM
| You were in the screenshots, I just didn't know where everything would be cut yesterday
And no, it isn't personal
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MKR 10:55 PM
| The reason for this is I choose to not interrupt cwc. So I tend to waits until he is done to comment unless its important to interject.
Its ok.
But the doppelganger thing should probably be left out
At least for now
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Naught 11:00 PM
| its far to recent, these faggot fail trolls read the farms and th cwcki and take notes
but wtf do ik,
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 11:00 PM
| [Replying to "its far to recent, these faggot fail trolls read the farms and th cwcki and take notes"]
?
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Naught 11:00 PM
| the doppelganger content
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 11:01 PM
| I mean, if he didn't say it here, I think he'd do it on Twitter anyway
Hell, he might've said it in the past already
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Nova 11:01 PM
| Implied it.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 11:08 PM
| The soonest we would've met is when you joined the cwcki server
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MKR 11:08 PM
| That's strange... maybe I'm wrong
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 11:10 PM
| I didn't have a presence in other CWC-related circles until the Discord server came about, so we couldn't have met before then
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22 January 2021
Nova 01:36 AM
| But that Chris is more actively looking now.
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[REDACTED] 03:00 AM
| Fair point.
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Anaxis (Lainchu) 03:00 AM
| I don't think it's something weens will look at and immediately get inspired by. They're not exactly the most creative or resourceful bunch.
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The WCT 03:13 AM
| I think it's been done to death at this point.
people literally just recycle shit and come up with nothing new.
It also doesn't help that Chris is mostly immune now to trolls when compared to 10 years ago. The times have changed, and some just don't know it yet.
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Nova 03:14 AM
| Opus is still there.
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