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[[File:Draft Interview hard drive.jpg|thumb|right|The remains of the hard drive containing the film.]]
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'''''Chris Chan VS. The Internet''''' is a cancelled and (presumed) lost documentary film directed by film student Joseph Draft, which would've focused on the current condition of [[Chris]] and the [[Chris and reality|long-term effects]] that [[internet]] [[troll]]ing has had on his mental state. The trailer and a leaked minute from the opening are the only known surviving portions of the film, and as of [[November 2020]], the film remains in limbo, if not outright lost.
'''''Chris Chan VS. The Internet''''' is a cancelled and (presumed) lost documentary film directed by film student '''Joseph Draft''', which would've focused on the current condition of [[Chris]] and the [[Chris and reality|long-term effects]] that [[internet]] [[troll]]ing has had on his mental state. The trailer, a leaked minute from the opening, and two brief leaked clips are the only known surviving portions of the film, and as of [[November 2020]], the film remains in limbo, if not outright lost.


According to [[Naught]], the mostly-completed film was later destroyed by Draft out of [[stress]] over film cuts and infighting with some of his collaborators.<ref name=stress>[[Undated Discord leaks#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref> Naught also claimed that Draft face-doxed himself after a 4-hour conversation once the drive was destroyed.<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref>
According to [[Naught]], the mostly-completed film was later destroyed by Draft out of [[stress]] over film cuts and infighting with some of his collaborators.<ref name=stress>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref> Naught also claimed that Draft face-doxed himself after a 4-hour conversation once the drive was destroyed.<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref>


==History==
==History==
[[File:Geno on Draft footage.png|thumb|600px|left|[[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History|Geno Samuel]] talks about what could have been.]]
[[File:Geno on Draft footage.png|thumb|[[Geno Samuel]] talks about what could have been.]]
[[File:Geno on Draft docu.png|thumb]]


When first announced, the documentary garnered significant criticism from [[Kiwi Farms]] due to its announcement being through a [[Kickstarter]] page via a tweet from Chris, and having a funding goal of $20,000, which was arguably too high considering the film was stated as being completed. The description on the Kickstarter page<ref>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jdraft/chris-chan-vs-the-internet</ref> initially had very little information on the documentary and no breakdown of how the $20,000 of the budget would be used, which led to much speculation on how the money would be spent and how much may be for profit. The page was eventually updated and described that the film had been completed (to a point), included new interviews with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and Chris, new interviews with [[Megan Schroeder]] and that the purpose of the Kickstarter was to conduct additional interviews with the Chandlers and also with various YouTubers who discuss Chris such as Geno Samuel (known for ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'') and Sachumo (known for his 2015 [[Chris Chan Documentary (Sachumo)|documentary]] and [[Sachumo Interview|2017 interview]] of Chris).
When first announced, the documentary garnered significant criticism from [[Kiwi Farms]] due to its announcement being through a [[Kickstarter]] page via a tweet from Chris, and having a funding goal of $20,000, which Kiwi Farms members argued as being too high considering the film was stated as being completed.{{cite}} The description on the Kickstarter page<ref>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jdraft/chris-chan-vs-the-internet</ref> initially had very little information on the documentary and no breakdown of how the $20,000 of the budget would be used, which led to much speculation on how the money would be spent and how much may be for profit. The page was eventually updated and described that the film had been completed (to a point), included new interviews with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and Chris, new interviews with [[Megan Schroeder]] and that the purpose of the Kickstarter was to conduct additional interviews with the Chandlers and also with various YouTubers who discuss Chris such as [[Geno Samuel]] (known for ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'') and Sachumo (known for his 2015 [[Chris Chan Documentary (Sachumo)|documentary]] and [[Sachumo Interview|2017 interview]] of Chris).


Someone involved with the project posted on Kiwi Farms to do a Q&A which answered few, if any, questions, and only increased the hostility towards the project and its creators.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-vs-the-internet-documentary-promo.55095/page-2#post-4531247</ref> The Kickstarter for the film was abruptly cancelled on 6 [[April 2019]], only two days after its announcement.
Kiwi Farms user CMCW posted in a thread about the project, claiming to be involved with it and wanting to do a Q&A. However, despite CMCW answering several questions, several Kiwi Farms members remained hostile towards the project and its creators.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Chris Chan Vs the Internet]]</ref> The Kickstarter for the film was abruptly cancelled on 6 [[April 2019]], only two days after its announcement.


According to [[Geno Samuel]], Megan actually wanted to reunite with Chris in person; however, Draft vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref name=geno></ref> According to [[Naught]], eventually, Megan changed her mind on being included in the film, and requested her inclusion be cut.<ref name=stress></ref> It's not completely certain why she did this, but it's highly possible she realized her appearance in the film could indirectly lead to [[weens]] contacting and/or harassing her even more. Naught also claimed that the stress over the matters led Draft to give up on the project,<ref name=stress></ref> and eventually destroy a hard drive containing the only known copy of the film. Draft also feared that the hostility surrounding the film would also lead to him getting [[dox]]xed, so he [[:File:Joseph Draft KF.jpg|did the job himself]].
According to [[Geno Samuel]], Megan actually wanted to reunite with Chris in person; however, Draft vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref name=geno></ref> According to [[Naught]], eventually, Megan changed her mind on being included in the film, and requested her inclusion be cut.<ref name=stress></ref> Naught also claimed that the stress over the matters led Draft to give up on the project,<ref name=stress></ref> and eventually destroy a hard drive containing the only known copy of the film. Draft also feared that the hostility surrounding the film would also lead to him getting [[dox]]xed, so he did the job himself.<ref>[[:File:Joseph Draft KF.jpg]]</ref>


According to Geno, "Joe's buddy who saw the footage said they got lots of footage of Chris belching and screaming in public, and was all giddy about it".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft footage.png]]</ref>
According to Geno, "Joe's buddy who saw the footage said they got lots of footage of Chris belching and screaming in public, and was all giddy about it".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft footage.png]]</ref>


As of [[November 2020]], no other copy of the film has surfaced, so it can be presumed that if it isn't sitting on a cloud service or other hard drive somewhere, then the film has been lost.
As of [[October 2024]], the film has yet to surface online, so it can be presumed that if it isn't sitting in cloud storage or on a hard drive somewhere, then the unused footage has been lost entirely.


==Chris on the trailer==
==Mentions by Chris==
{{quote|You all could have had this genuine and heart-felt gem, but you’ve had to shoot yourselves in the freaking feet by spamming hatred like a bunch of beheaded chickens or ”World War Z” Zombies.|Chris expressing his disappointment over the cancellation.}}
{{quote|You all could have had this genuine and heart-felt gem, but you’ve had to shoot yourselves in the freaking feet by spamming hatred like a bunch of beheaded chickens or ”World War Z” Zombies.|Chris expressing his disappointment over the cancellation.<ref name=sept20>[[September 2020 social media posts#Chris Chan VS The Internet cancellation rant]]</ref>}}


In [[September 2020]], Chris [[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Chris Chan VS. The Internet Trailer (Cancelled Kickstarter Documentary by Joseph Draft)|discovered the trailer]] on YouTube and later posted [[September 2020 social media posts#Chris Chan VS The Internet cancellation rant|his thoughts]] on it to Twitter. In the tweets, he confirmed that the female voice heard near the end belonged to Megan, and accused trolls of "spamming hatred" and thus getting the documentary cancelled.
On 20 [[September 2020]], Chris, having discovered a mirror of the trailer on YouTube, left a comment thanking the uploader for archiving it.<ref>[[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Chris Chan VS. The Internet Trailer (Cancelled Kickstarter Documentary by Joseph Draft)]]</ref> Chris later posted his thoughts on it to Twitter.<ref name=sept20></ref> In the tweets, he confirmed that the female voice heard near the end belonged to Megan, and accused trolls of "spamming hatred" and thus getting the documentary cancelled. Viewing the trailer also sparked Chris into having an emotional breakdown over Megan, which he chatted about in [[The Place]].<ref>[[The Place chats - Megan Obsession]]</ref>


== Kickstarter trailer ==
== Kickstarter trailer ==
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'''Megan''': Now, he...he seems like a totally different person to me.
'''Megan''': Now, he...he seems like a totally different person to me.


== Leaked Opening ==
== Leaked opening ==
On 12 July 2020, a phone recording of the intro to the documentary was leaked, featuring Chris walking through the woods while singing "[[Don'tGetTrolled|You've Been Trolled]]" and shots of some of his toys.
On 12 July 2020, a phone recording of the intro to the documentary was leaked, featuring Chris walking through the woods while singing "[[Don'tGetTrolled|You've Been Trolled]]" and shots of some of his toys.
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===Transcript===
===Transcript===


[''Text on screen displays'' "The following film is true... and honest".]
[''Black screen with white text displaying'' "The following film is true... and honest".]


[''(on screen) [[Chris]] walking in a forest.'']
[''(on screen) [[Chris]] walking in a forest.'']


[''Text on screen displays'' "A film by Joseph Draft".]
[''Black screen with white text displaying'' "A film by Joseph Draft".]


[''(on screen) [[Chris]] singing the lyrics to the song'' "You've been trolled" ''while continuing to walk in the forest.'']
[''(on screen) [[Chris]] singing the lyrics to the song'' "You've been trolled" ''while continuing to walk in the forest.'']


[''Text on screen displays'' "Christine Chandler" ''while the audio of [[Chris]] singing can still be heard.'']
[''Black screen with white text displaying'' "Christine Chandler" ''while the audio of [[Chris]] singing can still be heard.'']


[''Text on screen displays'' "[[Barbara Chandler]]" ''while the audio of [[Chris]] singing continues.'']
[''Black screen with white text displaying'' "[[Barbara Chandler]]" ''while the audio of [[Chris]] singing continues.'']


[''(on screen) [[Chris]] finishes the song while looking at the camera.'']
[''(on screen) [[Chris]] finishes the song while looking at the camera.'']


[''Text on screen displays'' "Chris Chan VS. The Internet".]
[''Black screen with white text displaying'' "Chris Chan VS. The Internet".]


[''A montage of Chris's [[MLP]] and [[Legos]] toys along with the [[Sonichu Plush]].'']
[''A montage of Chris's [[MLP]] and [[Legos]] toys along with the [[Sonichu Plush]].'']
==July 2023 leaks==
On 1 July 2023, 'IRaiseUALatte' on [[Reddit]] leaked some footage from Chris Chan Vs. The Internet. They got the footage from their friend, who used to know the 'audio guy' on the project.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/14ofdor/forgot_i_had_these_from_the_supposed_canceled/</ref>
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name          = ''July 1 2023''
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|98sXo70dAWs}}
| Stardate      = Unknown
| other          = {{Leaked|text}}
}}
===Transcript===
'''Interviewer:''' How do you see, how are you going to uh take care of yourself or where are you going to live...Uh, when...uh, the time with your, [[Barb|your mother]] is...is uh...up? Um, what's, what, what is your plan for after that?
[''long pause'']
'''Chris:''' Hopefully I'll be in, very...likely and gracefully and hopefully I'll be in [[Dimensions#C-197|C197]] in [[CWCVille]] then, and I'll be living in the [unintelligible]! And actually helping and, saving the world and dimensions and everything, but other than that? Every time I'm asked a question like 'where do you see yourself in five years or so?', like...[''[[Pedo-Glasses#Dramatic glasses removal|takes off glasses]], [[Creepy stare|stares creepily]], and falls over dramatically'']
'''Interviewer:''' [''chuckles''] Well, [''cuts off'']
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name          = ''July 1 2023''
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|znnWao2FJbQ}}
| Stardate      = Unknown
| other          = {{Leaked|text}}
}}
===Transcript===
'''Chris:''' Then that's fine. That's where she can go from, but I wasn't when I was thrown(?) at least as far as I know. As far as I knew back then, but I came around. I'm [[bisexual]] [[Transgender|trans woman]]! And I, I lick [[China|pussy]] and suck [[Pickle|cocks!]]
'''Interviewer:''' [''starts laughing'']


==See also==
==See also==

Latest revision as of 14:23, 14 October 2024

Megan actually wanted to be reunited with Chris because she thought it was gonna be fun, but the director went against it because it was gonna be too corny and forced
Geno Samuel[1]
The remains of the hard drive containing the film.

Chris Chan VS. The Internet is a cancelled and (presumed) lost documentary film directed by film student Joseph Draft, which would've focused on the current condition of Chris and the long-term effects that internet trolling has had on his mental state. The trailer, a leaked minute from the opening, and two brief leaked clips are the only known surviving portions of the film, and as of November 2020, the film remains in limbo, if not outright lost.

According to Naught, the mostly-completed film was later destroyed by Draft out of stress over film cuts and infighting with some of his collaborators.[2] Naught also claimed that Draft face-doxed himself after a 4-hour conversation once the drive was destroyed.[3]

History

Geno Samuel talks about what could have been.
Geno on Draft docu.png

When first announced, the documentary garnered significant criticism from Kiwi Farms due to its announcement being through a Kickstarter page via a tweet from Chris, and having a funding goal of $20,000, which Kiwi Farms members argued as being too high considering the film was stated as being completed.[citation needed] The description on the Kickstarter page[4] initially had very little information on the documentary and no breakdown of how the $20,000 of the budget would be used, which led to much speculation on how the money would be spent and how much may be for profit. The page was eventually updated and described that the film had been completed (to a point), included new interviews with Barb and Chris, new interviews with Megan Schroeder and that the purpose of the Kickstarter was to conduct additional interviews with the Chandlers and also with various YouTubers who discuss Chris such as Geno Samuel (known for Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History) and Sachumo (known for his 2015 documentary and 2017 interview of Chris).

Kiwi Farms user CMCW posted in a thread about the project, claiming to be involved with it and wanting to do a Q&A. However, despite CMCW answering several questions, several Kiwi Farms members remained hostile towards the project and its creators.[5] The Kickstarter for the film was abruptly cancelled on 6 April 2019, only two days after its announcement.

According to Geno Samuel, Megan actually wanted to reunite with Chris in person; however, Draft vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".[1] According to Naught, eventually, Megan changed her mind on being included in the film, and requested her inclusion be cut.[2] Naught also claimed that the stress over the matters led Draft to give up on the project,[2] and eventually destroy a hard drive containing the only known copy of the film. Draft also feared that the hostility surrounding the film would also lead to him getting doxxed, so he did the job himself.[6]

According to Geno, "Joe's buddy who saw the footage said they got lots of footage of Chris belching and screaming in public, and was all giddy about it".[7]

As of October 2024, the film has yet to surface online, so it can be presumed that if it isn't sitting in cloud storage or on a hard drive somewhere, then the unused footage has been lost entirely.

Mentions by Chris

You all could have had this genuine and heart-felt gem, but you’ve had to shoot yourselves in the freaking feet by spamming hatred like a bunch of beheaded chickens or ”World War Z” Zombies.
Chris expressing his disappointment over the cancellation.[8]

On 20 September 2020, Chris, having discovered a mirror of the trailer on YouTube, left a comment thanking the uploader for archiving it.[9] Chris later posted his thoughts on it to Twitter.[8] In the tweets, he confirmed that the female voice heard near the end belonged to Megan, and accused trolls of "spamming hatred" and thus getting the documentary cancelled. Viewing the trailer also sparked Chris into having an emotional breakdown over Megan, which he chatted about in The Place.[10]

Kickstarter trailer

Chris Chan VS The Internet by Joseph Draft — Kickstarter
Direct link Youtube, archive
Stardate 4 April 2019
Subject Matter TragedyTragedy Tragedy, MusicMusic Music, TrollsTrolls Trolls, RageRage Chris's Anger, GalpalsGalpals Love Quest, ComicsComics Comics
Video Type Fan ArtFan Art Fan Art, ReasonReason Reason
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Transcript

[We see a shot of a C-Ville Weekly vending box in the city, and a shot of a Ruckersville entrance sign.]

Chris: [audio reused from this video] Hello. I record this message, in re...in response to the Encyclopedia Dramatica page that has been against me...

[Chris is seen placing a tray of markers on a table, then begins drawing Sonichu on a piece of paper with a black ballpoint pen.]

Chris: Every detail...on that heinous page, against me, is all a pack of lies.

[A montage of Chris walking through a woodland, selecting a pack of Crayola markers at a store, drinking coffee plays. Chris is then seen hugging one of the beagles while the other bays in the background]

Barbara: [narrating] At first, he couldn’t talk. So, he was...err...trained with a speech therapist. His behavior was not normal.

Barbara: [on-screen] I...wasn't aware of...err...all what was going on, at first.

[Chris breathes outdoors with his eyes closed, then the film's title appears, followed by a shot of Megan (from behind) in an antique shop]

Megan: Now, he...he seems like a totally different person to me.

Leaked opening

On 12 July 2020, a phone recording of the intro to the documentary was leaked, featuring Chris walking through the woods while singing "You've Been Trolled" and shots of some of his toys.


Chris Chan vs the internet opening clip
Stardate 12 July 2020
Other Info LeakedLeaked Leaked
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Transcript

[Black screen with white text displaying "The following film is true... and honest".]

[(on screen) Chris walking in a forest.]

[Black screen with white text displaying "A film by Joseph Draft".]

[(on screen) Chris singing the lyrics to the song "You've been trolled" while continuing to walk in the forest.]

[Black screen with white text displaying "Christine Chandler" while the audio of Chris singing can still be heard.]

[Black screen with white text displaying "Barbara Chandler" while the audio of Chris singing continues.]

[(on screen) Chris finishes the song while looking at the camera.]

[Black screen with white text displaying "Chris Chan VS. The Internet".]

[A montage of Chris's MLP and Legos toys along with the Sonichu Plush.]

July 2023 leaks

On 1 July 2023, 'IRaiseUALatte' on Reddit leaked some footage from Chris Chan Vs. The Internet. They got the footage from their friend, who used to know the 'audio guy' on the project.[11]


July 1 2023
Stardate Unknown
Other Info LeakedLeaked Leaked
TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos

Transcript

Interviewer: How do you see, how are you going to uh take care of yourself or where are you going to live...Uh, when...uh, the time with your, your mother is...is uh...up? Um, what's, what, what is your plan for after that?

[long pause]

Chris: Hopefully I'll be in, very...likely and gracefully and hopefully I'll be in C197 in CWCVille then, and I'll be living in the [unintelligible]! And actually helping and, saving the world and dimensions and everything, but other than that? Every time I'm asked a question like 'where do you see yourself in five years or so?', like...[takes off glasses, stares creepily, and falls over dramatically]

Interviewer: [chuckles] Well, [cuts off]


July 1 2023
Stardate Unknown
Other Info LeakedLeaked Leaked
TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos

Transcript

Chris: Then that's fine. That's where she can go from, but I wasn't when I was thrown(?) at least as far as I know. As far as I knew back then, but I came around. I'm bisexual trans woman! And I, I lick pussy and suck cocks!

Interviewer: [starts laughing]

See also

References

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