This server was used by the iteration of the [[Watchmen]] led by Naught. Within it were two layers of channels: one which was visible to Chris and everybody else, and a second which was visible to everybody ''excluding'' Chris (this would later expand to exclude "untrusted guests" such as Praetor).
This server was used by the iteration of the [[Watchmen]] led by Naught. Within it were two layers of channels: one which was visible to Chris and everybody else, and a second which was visible to everybody ''excluding'' Chris (this would later expand to exclude "untrusted guests" such as Praetor).
The selected chats date from September 2020 to February 2021 (me joining the server to me being banned from it).
The selected chats date from [[September 2020]] to [[February 2021]] (me joining the server to me being banned from it).
==September 2020==
==September 2020==
Revision as of 19:45, 16 June 2023
This page is a collection of long chat transcriptions from within the Watchmen Discord server the Place. Its main purpose is to serve as a reference for The Lainchu Manifesto, and store the raw text of chats that are too long to upload the content of in screenshot form to this wiki.
Any case of text or usernames being censored is due to them being irrelevant to the main topic of each section.
Editors can feel free to use to this page as a resource. Enjoy.
This server was used by the iteration of the Watchmen led by Naught. Within it were two layers of channels: one which was visible to Chris and everybody else, and a second which was visible to everybody excluding Chris (this would later expand to exclude "untrusted guests" such as Praetor).
The selected chats date from September 2020 to February 2021 (me joining the server to me being banned from it).
September 2020
Discussing Merch Distribution, The Loud House, and a Chris-Chan Dating Sim
8 September 2020
Summary: Klop asks Chris if the Sonichu comics can be put up on Amazon, something which Nova encourages. Chris then recaps his day, talking about his "meditation" and what he supposedly learned from it, then about the cartoon show The Loud House and the plush of one of its characters he received in the mail. After discussing the show with the Watchmen, Chris pivots back to merch distribution with Nova, who also floats the idea of creating a dating sim themed around CWC, which had apparently been discussed before.
Hey @Sonichu982 Can I put up the comics on Amazon?
We don't have to do anything, Amazon will print and deliver everything and send the profits to whatever account you have. It's a very neat system. (edited)
Nova12:41 AM
From a business perspective it makes good sense.
Klop12:41 AM
We also need a website,
Nova12:42 AM
I'm rarely used to working in a budget, but I like the challenge.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:32 PM
Hey, y’all.
Nova02:33 PM
Afternoon.
Naught02:33 PM
Henlo just read your message
Chris (as Sonichu)02:34 PM
I’m feeling okay; Rosey is by my side; let me recap of the so-far for today:
Naught02:34 PM
Okie
Anaxis (Lainchu)02:37 PM
Good afternoon
Chris (as Sonichu)02:38 PM
Well, last night, after I settled this body down for the night, Val had to force the body into a quick-meditate, and 1214 Chris Chan had to hold the physical fort for the time. I was projected and had to spend HOURS, and then some within the milliseconds around frozen time, learning as much as possible about the utilization and further advanced basics of this body and its abilities. And after getting back at about 6:00 am, the body was still asleep, but (1214) Chris Chan went back to her body, and after finally waking up at about 12:30 pm, I migrated my knowledge and details of what I’ve learned last night into the brain; it instigated an extensive vibration, at least that knowledge is conscious in this brain now.
Aside from that.
I received a sitting, big head Luan plush (Loud House) in the mail today.
And I found the text from Joshua Moon (Null) asking about the setup of the new online store and what we were selling, so I gave him the 411.
And after taking the meds, and between the new energy and details in the brain, the V8+ Energy, and a York Peppermint Patty, and a bit of Pepsi, I’m feeling pretty jazzed.
Oh, and watching a bit of Luan on YouTube.
Mama had not watched much of Loud House, so I had to give this brain a conscious intro of Luan. (edited)
Nova02:42 PM
That's a lot of caffeine and not a whole heck of a lot of nutrition.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:42 PM
It’s a further wake-up call.
Anyway
Naught02:43 PM
What's luan?
Nova02:43 PM
Ya, I'd say eating more substantially would avoid some of the highs and lows.
Even the old style with animation cels was like that.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:47 PM
We're gonna also need a skilled crafter or two, maybe someone with a 3D Printer, to make the medallions and the Amiibo Figures on our behalf. Along with other Sonichu and Rosechu merch with positively good and lovely art on them (including that from these hands, personally).
Would you be up for a short Q&A today @Sonichu982 ?
Nova02:48 PM
3D printing is a lemon from a manufacturing perspective.
Naught02:48 PM
A dud?
Chris (as Sonichu)02:48 PM
In the new timeline, eventually, there will be a Sonichu Convention.
Well, how do you expect to make a BUNCH of the Amiibo figures and Medallions, if not by time and work by hands?
Nova02:49 PM
Ya, it's expensive and the material limitations are severe.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:49 PM
No shit.
Nova02:49 PM
You're limited to a few specialized plastics, they're expensive and mechanically crap.
Naught02:49 PM
Lel
Chris (as Sonichu)02:50 PM
Which is why I’m also open to the figures being on removable black bases, so they can optionally be glued onto an Amiibo base with their matching chips in the base.
Also, still have the Mii QR codes for the human Amiibo figures.
Nova02:50 PM
Hmm, thinking about it, we'd need to get a read on volume before planning anything.
Well, with what we’re doing, we’re dreaming big with small, humble beginnings.
At least we have the books and the TSSSF cards in having our legs up and dashing.
Nova03:10 PM
Generously saying 200k sales at 10 bucks a pop, minus 30% of revenue as the only known cost, that's 140k of basically profit.
Someone like Pewdiepie plays it, boom, free marketing.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:11 PM
Yeah, it’s like how it was joked in Analysis Anarchy about Pewdiepie’s popularity.
At least I haven’t seen any new mail that was addressed to him come by this Temple in months.
Damn, don’t those people know he lives by the UK?
Nova03:12 PM
That was just some low effort failtrolls, why it stopped.
Naught03:12 PM
Lel
Chris (as Sonichu)03:13 PM
Yep (edited)
Nova03:14 PM
But it takes planning ahead to make something, that's free though.
The WCT03:14 PM
I heard you were active so I decided to drop by and say hi. I hope you're having a good day. @Sonichu982
Chris (as Sonichu)03:15 PM
Like a legit deal with Nintendo and SEGA, and the animated series and video games where Mama personally does the voices for me and herself.
Hey, Neko.
Here’s something fun.
Nova03:15 PM
Ya, that's very much a down the line thing.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:15 PM
Neko, here’s Luan.
The WCT03:16 PM
Cute!
Nova03:16 PM
You're not going to become an F1 driver by just showing up at the track one day, generally it's better to have the money come to you rather than come off as overstepping.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:17 PM
Yeah.
In her subconscious, Mama realized that our popularity would garner the attention of both Nintendo and SEGA, and how massive our fan, troll, and hater base has become in this dimension. So, it is more than obvious that her personal involvement in working with them is more than profitable.
At least mine and Rosey’s Pokédex Numbers are good for the next new Pokemon Game they can definitely make.
Lightning Bolt and Diva Pink.
Nova03:19 PM
Why the whole indie scene exists, ideas are cheap, so they don't like things they have to build up themselves.
The WCT03:19 PM
I think Sega and Nintendo have acknowledged your Mother's work in the past. And it was quite astounding.
It's interesting, but until it pays, it's not exactly good odds.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:20 PM
We DO have Blanc and Neptune on our side, who both of them stand above Nintendo and SEGA, respectively.
So, in the new timeline to come very soon, that will be a more happening thing.
In case y’all need a reminder:
Blanc is the CPU of Nintendo, and Neptune is the CPU of SEGA.
Nova03:22 PM
Well, no reason to sit still on it now. It's not productive.
Naught03:22 PM
- So is it time travel or like a body swap?
Chris (as Sonichu)03:22 PM
Excuse me, Bis?
Val03:22 PM
What you do echoes throughout each timeline.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:22 PM
Hey, Val.
Naught03:22 PM
Yes
Chris (as Sonichu)03:22 PM
Indeed so.
Both, Bis.
Val03:23 PM
Therefore, make them all as best as one possibly can.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:23 PM
Remember: I have to ultimately travel back in time to prevent Covid, and then deliver this body personally to Mama at BABSCon, 2020, on April 10, for the return body swap to happen.
Nova03:23 PM
It's pretty wholesome, and it would be a fun experience to work together.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:24 PM
Very well said and very much so, Val.
By the way, on the Dating Sim, are we keeping that aimed for a “T” Rating?
Or are y’all keeping it on the “E”?
The WCT03:25 PM
I think we should go for the "T".
Chris (as Sonichu)03:25 PM
“M” is definitely not the direction we want to go.
Nova03:25 PM
I'm thinking E, unless we have an idea of what we want from the T.
Well that would also complicate trying to get it featured.
The WCT03:26 PM
You'd have a little more Creative Freedom with a T rating. But an E10 wouldn't be too bad either.
The content was mis-tarnished by the haters in past years, but now we have the chance and ability to rectify that and make it as more wholesome and true as it should have been perceived in the first place.
Still, the Rating is there, and sets the guidelines for where to draw the line.
Nova03:30 PM
Wholesome is the goal.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:30 PM
Mama went beyond it in that XXX-Tended version of Book 8.
Even in her NSFW work, though, she originally had the preface being genuine, positive and mutual compassion. Again: freaking haters misinterpreting what she did and said.
I feel like I need a break.
Nova03:31 PM
I'll have to try and find some of the loose planning, but we can write a script.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:31 PM
But this was truly productive.
And I am more confident that you all have the continued common sense and wisdoms to make this work on our behalf.
Nova03:32 PM
5 or 7 days, however it pans out, I'll try to find some way to structure it.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:32 PM
Thank you all soo much for your continued efforts and hard work.
Nova03:32 PM
You can do the dialogue as well as anyone I imagine.
The WCT03:32 PM
@Sonichu982 you're welcome. 🙂
Chris (as Sonichu)03:33 PM
In the end, you all will be compensated positively with high honors in Cwcville’s Basillicom by Mama, herself, personally.
[1 💙, 1 💜, and 1 🖤 reaction]
Naught03:33 PM
The dialogue is of key importance
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:33 PM
Have a good rest of your day
Chris (as Sonichu)03:33 PM
I’ll check y’all later.
Naught03:33 PM
Be safe stay hydrated
Nova03:34 PM
Wholesome and genuine stuff, I'll come up with some kind of skeleton structure and we can tweak from there.
The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)
22 September 2020
Summary: Chris comes into the Place to announce that he had met some "new associates" who would help him with merch creation and distribution, sending a picture of a golden medallion created by one of the members. Chris divulges little, other than the fact that they are based in Goochland, and that he believed them to be trustworthy. Nova discusses logistics around creating such medallions and which materials would be most ideal, but Chris mostly handwaves Nova's concerns. After the conversation ends, MKR @s Chris and tells him he should block Helena Fiorenza, stating that she is a ween and should stop drawing his OCs in "such disgusting ways."
And a good morning to some of you all this fine day. This is a big day, indeed.
Anaxis (Lainchu)12:59 PM
Good afternoon
Or morning, I suppose
[REDACTED 1]12:59 PM
Big day, eh?
What is the reason for this day, specifically being a big day?
Chris (as Sonichu)12:59 PM
Gonna have lunch with our new associates to talk about the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while.
And tonight is going to be genuinely, massively interdimensional.
It is after noon, here on the East Coast.
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:00 PM
Ah, remind me, which associates are these?
Chris (as Sonichu)01:00 PM
And presently, Central time as well.
Ah, right, I only told @ภคยﻮђՇ.
The other day, a trio of fans came by for a visit, with a present:
Nova01:01 PM
Who's handling fulfillment?
Chris (as Sonichu)01:01 PM
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:02 PM
Oh, very shiny!
Chris (as Sonichu)01:02 PM
Lovingly crafted by the young lady of the group, with paint that had a mixture of 24K gold in it.
And I could tell by soul-reading them that their intentions were legit, honest and true.
Also, matches the past vision we had of the very moment.
Nova01:06 PM
What kind of press is it like, I mean, someone with a decent understanding of woodworking can make something that would work, I've got more experience with glass blowing than casting.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:07 PM
I will ask about that as well today.
[REDACTED 2]01:07 PM
By vision, are you referring to a dream vision?
Nova01:08 PM
Because just making a wood mold, filling, popping it out and patching should be something that can be done entirely manually.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:08 PM
Yes, as well as psychic visions and foresight.
Mama had foreseen it, as well as Magi-Chan.
Nova01:08 PM
Actually, you can make clay molds in the oven, just with a master, that works for the materials used.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:09 PM
Mama had wished for the right artist to come along to make the medallions on her behalf, and this vision came to her in an instant as well.
I’ll fill y’all in on the further details in strict confidence later.
But, more importantly, is tonight.
Nova01:10 PM
Considered ever trying alternate materials? Can get a superior product at a much lower materials cost.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:10 PM
@everyone, be on your guard for the big event that is to come.
The thought had run through Mama’s mind some time ago, as an alternative to model magic and traditional clay, but she had to work with what was best for her present skill set. Not to mention she wasn’t confident using an oven in lieu of a kiln.
Nova01:13 PM
Might require a bit of detailing, but you can wet cast clay in a clay mold.
Hydrophobics, that would do it.
And there are several clays that can cure in just a basic oven.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:13 PM
That has been taught over the years in her various art classes in her school years.
MKR01:14 PM
Sculpy is a good option
Chris (as Sonichu)01:14 PM
I’ll check y’all later.
MKR01:14 PM
Oki
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:14 PM
See you later
MKR01:14 PM
Bye bye
Nova01:14 PM
Instamold is fun, saw someone replace a tooth with it, because bad ideas.
@Sonichu982 Just going to say, try making one 100% perfect master, you can do clay ones at home, or just as a basis in general.
Nova01:27 PM
Usual, make sure there's low water content, something small shouldn't take too long to cure and you can get a batch done in an hour or so.
MKR01:52 PM
@Sonichu982 I'd block helena if I were you, she's another try hard troll/ween
Nova01:57 PM
Her magic crackhouse of wonderment garbage is getting pretty fucking old.
MKR02:03 PM
Agreed, she needs to stop drawing your ocs in such disgusting ways.
Chris's Update to Naught
24 September 2020
Summary: Naught posts a copy-pasted DM from Chris into the First Layer of the Place, in which Chris talks about his "visions" and reaffirms his faith in the "new associates," stating that he will be inviting a member to the Place. He then requests that Naught copy-paste the message into the server.
#general (First Layer)
NOTE: The following message is one written by Chris and sent to Naught's DMs, which Naught then copy-pasted into the general layer of the Place.
Naught02:34 PM
Chris (as Sonichu)
I am feeling good and well right now.
The border moment of my recent future sight problem that I could not see beyond has passed, happened, and personally experienced.
I've regained the ability to see into the future, and I've received a new bunch of visions and present moment tasks.
The time frame was between Tuesday night and this very morning.
Also, I have met with our new business associates, and their plans are very sound and good. They intend on reigniting Mama's, and our Sonichu and Rosechu, brand. And, amongst the group, they are genuinely psychically and magically able on healthy to high levels. Proven so in-person as well. One of them was able to recognize from our aura that there was more than one soul in this body. Very good, considering there are, in addition to me, Sonichu; I've mentioned them before, at least the Mew, Celebi, Meloetta and Victini.
Given the foreseen circumstances and present events, as well that which has been personally confirmed, I'll be inviting one of them onto our Discord server; he's partly able, but has a good amount of power within him.
I will allow him to introduce himself after he gets on to talk with you all.
I probably should have typed all of this up on the Discord server. But, I feel it best if you would, please, copy/paste, or screen cap, what I've shared with you now and relay the information to the others.
¯\(ツ)\/¯
Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, "The Boys," Praetor LLC Revealed
25 September 2020
Summary: Naught posts a screenshot of a text between Chris and a disgruntled patron on Chris's Patreon, the latter complaining about not receiving what he paid for. I discuss this with Naught and question why Chris's number was on Patreon at all. Val looks up information on the patron. In response, Chris comes into the chat and reflects on his experience from being trolled over the years, as a reason that he was "not much of an online social type." He then posts a textwall about his dreams, then starts talking about the show The Boys. When Naught asks about the "figurine people," Chris again affirms them as "good and genuine" and states that they are working on a first wave of medallions. He also reveals their supposed company name: Praetor LLC. Nova then enters the conversation, and Chris recaps much of what he previously talked about.
WARNING: There are a few spoilers for the TV series "The Boys" within these messages.
#general (First Layer)
Naught04:34 PM
Apparently he wants to be contacted at this number now. [Patron's New Number]
Was it not obvious that Mama was not much of an online social type? After all, the majority of her past genuine friends were met in-person, and the majority of people who played “Friend” with her in the past online were a bunch of fake trolls and haters looking to fuck her over again and again.
Naught07:52 PM
People enjoy the endless speculation
Chris (as Sonichu)07:52 PM
Besides which, these days, our activity is mostly offline with the meditation and observation of the events, and then literally being an input and output source of energy to bridge the dimensions in getting me and this body into C-197.
Naught07:52 PM
Or they just like bringing it up as if they're the only ones who know or to give themselves some semblance of Solace
Chris (as Sonichu)07:53 PM
So, yeah, kinda like Kusuo Saiki, but without a High School or as many outside friends who want to constantly come over and invite us to get some ramen.
Point is, Mama didn’t get onto Discord as much, and it continues through the effect of this noggin and Chris-Core.
Old habits.
It’s been okay and definitely eventful. Ended up waking up after a vivid dream at shortly before 10:30 am. I ended up having an internal debate with Mama’s brain, which was figuring out for itself how to better utilize the body’s powers and abilities. Also, ended up analyzing the vivid dream that we just had; recognized a few faces in it. Magi-Chan made an appearance, personally, in the dream. During the waking time, we felt a LOT of psychic, magic and dimensional resonances and events throughout the day.
I ended up breaking the fourth wall into CWC Psychlight’s past books; she’s written and drawn over 2000 graphic novels about Mama’s life, adventures, and so on, involving her soul (which presently remains waiting in the new timeline on April 10, 2020), and this body with me in it.
Apparently, we’ve been also going with the flow of her chronicled works; she’s drawn and written up everything that is happening right now, this year, literally last year in 2019.
Presently, we’re making way through her books 1988 and 1989. That’s CWC Psychlight, for you; FTL, even in the subspace, and overpowered psychic and electrifying (but she does not have a Sonichu form, even though she is literally one of Mama’s self-counterparts).
And both of those books were drawn and written up in 2019.
So, as I’ve ended up telling a Lot of people: you’re living the Sonichu book series, and then some, right now.
We’re on Season 2, Episode 6 where Hughie gets impaled in the van during the raid on the Psych Ward, and Marvin, Frencie and Kyoko meeting Lamplighter, and Stormfront revealing her age to Homelander.
By the way, @ภคยﻮђՇ, Ive double-checked the backed up orders, and the order was still made by that [Disgruntled Patron]. You have the screen caps with the addresses I sent you a few weeks ago. The orders do still need to be fulfilled as soon as possible.
So phone number validity is irrelevant.
He wants book 8, Extended version, and book 2.
Statues?
Oh, right.
What’s the word on that?
Naught08:12 PM
[Quoting "He wants book 8, Extended version, and book 2."]
@Sonichu982 what did the figurine person say? Are they good?
It matters to me most people are two faced
Chris (as Sonichu)08:14 PM
Our new peeps are good and genuine; they’re setting up the new Etsy shop as well, and making the first wave of medallions molded from the one they made for me that was 24K gold-mix painted.
Although, Confidentially, while they do have their business connections, they do not yet have a website; I did a Google search for their name of “Praetor LLC”. But everything remains valid, and they do check in with me and talk, plus soul-sense from the lot of them.
Hey, Kyle. Just chillin’ and thrillin’ for a spell.
Nova08:24 PM
Well if business is in the syllabus, usually I know enough to not accidentally commit a felony.
Chris (as Sonichu)08:25 PM
And it started with me commenting on Mama’s online social life and mention of the majority of her past online friends not being the best.
On that, yeah, in this dimension, she didn’t have as many to satisfy a server.
Nova08:24 PM
Well, usually there's not enough probable cause there, to be warranted, what are you concerned about?
"On that, yeah, in this dimension, she didn’t have as many to satisfy a server."
Be very wary of what phrasing...
Chris (as Sonichu)08:28 PM
She didn’t have as many people to invite to the server to constitute its presence. Also, she was not as much on Discord as she probably should have been.
But, yeah, I see your point, Kyle.
Nova08:28 PM
It's quality, not quantity.
Chris (as Sonichu)08:28 PM
True
Nova08:29 PM
I like to be an absolute.
Chris (as Sonichu)08:29 PM
Yeah.
Just checked my text; found a new one from the HRC with a rainbow image; made me think of the Pride Energy Bar Maeve did an ad for in the new “The Boys” episode today.
Ooh, bonus thing: Deep found a camera that was recording from inside the plane with the passengers as it was going down and Homelander was ditching them. Found Footage, and Maeve got it.
Naught08:33 PM
Oh in the cape show?
Chris (as Sonichu)08:34 PM
“The Boys”; the new episode that debut today on A.P.
Mama tried to be on in online chats with strangers, even live chats through a few streamed videos in the past years. She had felt overwhelmed with the influx of the many people typing their thoughts and comments in the thing. She feels safer in a smaller type of chat room where the responses were not coming in too fast for her to catch up as she typed her extensive, digressive thoughts.
When Mama leaves a comment or thought, she typically leaves a lot of thought as possible in them.
Nova08:38 PM
Well, marketing is a real science.
Chris (as Sonichu)08:39 PM
Just to comment on her behalf: Mama’s noggin has a general, basic grasp at marketing, but when that topic is brought up, the associated feeling is “Whoop! That flew right over my head.”
Social science I tend to accept because it's not humanities.
If you're going to look at humanity to know it, you've gotta be pretty fucking smart.
Chris (as Sonichu)08:46 PM
Yep.
Nova08:46 PM
Fuck welfare economists, they're all fakers.
Deleted User08:46 PM
Sup, I'm still in school.
Chris (as Sonichu)08:46 PM
I’m listening to Silver Quill and Sweetie Bloom on YouTube in their stream right now.
Deleted User08:46 PM
Hey guys.
Chris (as Sonichu)08:47 PM
Hey
Nova08:47 PM
Generally being smart you can dissect and replace.
Gah, shit, I don't know all that much, just enough to move the world.
Deleted User08:48 PM
[Image of an abstract drawing]
Nova08:48 PM
Thinking, thinking...
A lot of sci-fi geometry paradoxically likes empty space.
Naught08:50 PM
Rock formations
Nova08:50 PM
I just have some experience in art appraisal.
I fucking love architecture.
Chris (as Sonichu)08:52 PM
Speaking of sci-fi, Rosey, Cryzel and I watched “Mr. Nobody” recently. It was done well enough to explore the number of timelines that branched from that one moment of 7-year old Nemo in February, 1982. But, to not really end it on the timeline that ended up after he took that middle path between mom and dad, felt like we missed something from that.
Heart Rate & Equestria Plot
29 September 2020
Summary: Chris comes into the Place and comments on his high heart rate, attributing it to the knowledge he is gaining through meditation. Nova asks if Chris had any accompanying headaches, but Chris starts talking about a plot that he claimed to see in a dream, of a gaudily-dressed businesswoman trying to destroy the MLP setting of Equestria. They eventually circle back to Nova's question, where Chris talks about apparently experiencing brief paralysis as a result of the high heart rate. Hurtful Truth Level suggests that Chris see his doctor just to be safe, something which Chris seems amenable towards. Nova talks more about his medical knowledge, but Chris shuts him down, stating that he made an appointment with his doctor for the next day. Later that night, Chris checks back in again, stating that he felt better but would still see the doctor.
Hey, @everyone. I pray all of you are feeling okay and well. I’m okay for the most part. This body and brain have been working a lot harder lately. I have been sensing many a disturbance and dimensional breaches. So much so, it’s jarring the heart rate in this body to high numbers. In further meditation, scanning and reflection, I continue to find the number of disturbances in present moment visions. And I’m still getting future visions as well.
Nova04:15 PM
Any accompanying headaches?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:16 PM
Also, in this morning’s dream, Discord, himself, showed up to share a very incriminating detail in the back halls of Hasbro’s executives.
Nova04:16 PM
Brain fog is a kind of vague and indefinable symptom, so I'd hesitate to suggest that.
Like, an evil plot?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:17 PM
Apparently what appears to be a pricy, gaudy business dressed woman is plotting to destroy Equestria, which would be even worse than one would imagine.
Nova04:18 PM
I mean, that's so tongue and not terribly creative.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:18 PM
Also saw Discord talking with Princess Celestia about it, and I was able to agree with them that we will make sure Equestria does not get deleted or anything of the sort.
Nova04:18 PM
At least the gents in finance dress kind of classy douchey.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:19 PM
If you want to argue with the Draconequis God of Chaos, Kyle, that’s your call.
Nova04:19 PM
So, they, undid it? Kind of weird and shallow motives.
I argue with everyone, that's all Socrates wanted in the afterlife.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:20 PM
Anyway, I felt need to share that with y’all.
Nova04:20 PM
Could make an interesting fanfic.
[1 SonichuWut[5] and 1 SonichuLOL[3] reaction, both possibly from Chris]
Chris (as Sonichu)04:21 PM
To answer your question, the high heart rate is having some effect on the body in moments of brief disable and paralysis, but fortunately this body, brain and core keeps a very high constitution and fortitude.
It’s a nuisance, but I’m keeping a good amount of control over the situation.
And I also have mind over matter at work.
I can recover quick enough at mental command.
Nova04:23 PM
As long as there's no issue with clotting, generally circulatory things tend to be very acute.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:24 PM
I doubt there is clotting going on.
Nova04:24 PM
Or TIA, generally harmless in and of itself, but never a good sign.
Hurtful Truth Level (hedgehog)04:24 PM
maybe you should ask your doctor to be safe.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:24 PM
Yes, that is a valid idea.
Nova04:25 PM
Any localized paralysis is typically very bad news.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:25 PM
My bad, but who’s changed their username this time? @hedgehog
I will make an appointment very soon.
Hurtful Truth Level (hedgehog)04:26 PM
Oh, I'm friends with Archiver. Haven't introduced myself to you before.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:26 PM
Oh.
So many like to change their usernames, it gets confusing.
Hurtful Truth Level (hedgehog)04:26 PM
lol, yeah.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:27 PM
It’s cool.
Nova04:27 PM
Most common conditions mimicing TIA are either low blood sugar, migranes or some forms of neurological conditions like minor focal seizures.
And generally TIA does indicate a high risk of stroke.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:28 PM
Thanks, Kyle.
Nova04:29 PM
Contributing factors, weight as well as preexisting heart conditions like afib. You might have a family history of that.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:30 PM
That’s enough, Kyle.
Nova04:31 PM
I just know things.
If it's at all relevant to bring up, well, it helps to have smart questions to ask your doctor.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:41 PM
Well, I’ve made an appointment with Mama’s doctor. Luckily, he had a cancellation, so I’ll see him tomorrow.
Anyway, the dream, and the events that are happening between dimensions and worldwide.
Thank you.
Nova04:43 PM
Any specifics on the plot?
Chris (as Sonichu)10:43 PM
Hey.
Naught10:43 PM
Henlo
MKR10:43 PM
Hi :3
Chris (as Sonichu)10:43 PM
Checking in; I’m feeling better.
The Sacral Chakra/Heart Crystal spot was glowing heavily for a long while.
I definitely am sensing the differences, but I’ll still talk with Mama’s doctor about the problematic moments.
The pulse feels calm, but the Fitbit is reading 91 bpm; I’m not sure that is right. Although it was right earlier on the definite heavy heartbeat moments.
Body heat’s been steadily very warm, sometimes hot.
Let out some of the magic and psychic energies out of these hands to help further progress the events, here.
It gets difficult when you have such powerful hands that you have to keep away from the body, or some gaseous pain builds up, unless there was already some pain there, and I focus the energy to be healing.
Aside from that, Rosey, Cryzel and I have been binging Batwoman on HBO Max.
Also, on the further details of the plot with the businesswoman at Hasbro that wants to see Equestria gone (didn’t have much to go on from the dream), but on further meditation, I believe it has something to do between GOPony and this “upcoming” MLP Movie.
Doctor Visit
30 September 2020
Summary: Chris updates the Place on his doctor visit, stating that his pulse and blood pressure were consistent, and that Val, Rosey and Cryzel also witnessed this because they were in the room with him.
#general (First Layer)
Chris (as Sonichu)06:11 PM
Also, just to let @everyone know in update: I saw Mama’s doctor; the pulse and blood pressure were consistent. Also did a quick EKG which turned up Normal at the end of the appointment. In talking with McGovern, as Val has personally witnessed as well as he was there with me, Rosey and Cryzel.
In explaining the recent details, showing him the heart rate data from the FitBit app, and as he did the usual checkup, McGovern expressed some perplexed emotions and feelings. He essentially played it off, as foreseen and as most doctors would do the same in this situation, as a factor of stress.
Obviously, that is only partly true, as all of you are aware.
That’s all I have for now.
October 2020
Lore Bible Discussion
3 October 2020
Summary: Chris talks about the possibility of creating a "lore bible" for himself, stating that Praetor had suggested this idea just as the Watchmen previously had. He then shows messages he received from an enabler about creating a lore bible. Nova expresses suspicion that Praetor was coercing Chris into doing this, but Chris affirms that the "need" to do this was mandated by his OCs. Nova suggests that Chris create a Twitter poll to gauge interest, which Chris later does. Chris later shares some "additional thoughts" he had in the form of screenshots of text messages he wrote. The recipient of these messages, as well as the overall context, was left a mystery.
My actions and words are purly [sic] without any trollish influence.
That I can agree with.
Nova02:46 AM
Well, this has been used as suffix before...
Chris (as Sonichu)02:46 AM
Anyway, I am open for your input as well in how to execute this.
At least to get this thing started.
Anaxis (Lainchu)02:47 AM
As long as you feel right about making what you believe you should
Nova02:47 AM
Well, we can sort out which projects are most productive and do risk assessment.
The market for this, seems sparse.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:48 AM
Anyway, one thing I do know is that I will have to do the further extensive meditation on this.
Anaxis (Lainchu)02:48 AM
But if you feel you are being pushed by outside forces and this undertaking is no longer beneficial to your well-being, you may want to reconsider your path
Nova02:48 AM
Ever do a Twitter poll?
Chris (as Sonichu)02:49 AM
Mama has, yeah.
Nova02:49 AM
I mean, unreliable, but at least something to go on if we have some data.
Going from that, figure a timescale and schedule work, so at least something gets done that we think might have a market.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:50 AM
I will take your suggestion and set up a poll for the creation of this Bible, although it is moot at this point. MANY people in this dimenion are asking for the guidance material on the Dimension Merge.
That sounds good.
Nova02:51 AM
Well, some people buy anything, what options do we have to focus on.
We've got, lorebook(not going to say Bible), dating sim, medallions and I think plushies.
Physical merch constrained by fixed cost.
Plushies take a lot of planning but the setup cost for a low volume higher margin thing, can work if you schedule it right.
@Sonichu982 Was going to suggest a poll of those 4 options, of course you get everyone saying yes to a tweet of "are you interested".
Chris (as Sonichu)02:57 AM
We’re talking about a really big book with lots of words in it; I feel people will popularly want plushes, medallions and video games as well. Let’s see how many say “Yes” on the Bible, as that will be larger than any video game or plush.
Especially on this noggin.
Nova02:58 AM
That's a comparatively massive undertaking.
Description, isn't doing too great a job on selling it as viable.
Why options are inherently better then a yes/no, lotta sycophancy and sarcastic yeses.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:28 AM
Just a few additional thoughts I feel I ought to share with y’all as well.
Val Tries to Face-Dox Snoo on the CWCki Server & Gets Kicked
5 October 2020
Summary: Val gets chastised by Klop for posting a YouTube video from Snoo's channel onto the CWCki Server which featured her face, stating that Discord would interpret it as "doxing." I tell Val that his actions were unnecessary as I had already talked Snoo down, and that he should just tell me next time someone from the server was acting up, and I would deal with it. Val expresses defiance towards this and says he doesn't care if he's kicked from the server, so I kick him out, and he responds to my request to ask me next time with "fuck off."
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
NOTE: This conversation occurred due to Val posting a YouTube video from Snoo's channel onto the CWCki Server, which featured her face.
Klop01:35 PM
@Val that would be doxxing
bad idea
ive got banned for less
Val01:38 PM
I linked a YouTube video..
Klop01:38 PM
discord is dog shit
I linked a kf page and was banned
it's notna dox I know
but fuck discord
Do not make threats of violence or threaten to harm others. This includes indirect threats, as well as sharing or threatening to share someone’s private personal information (also known as doxxing).
this will be used and you will be banned
god I fucking hate discord
Val01:40 PM
It's a YouTube video from their public channel.
Klop01:40 PM
the details on the kf 0age I shared were publically available
from a linkedin page
I argued with the mods for a week and they told me to fuck off
hurr durr you shared some information that they didn't want to be shared
just be careful
Nova01:43 PM
And even by that same standard, they don't care about Chris' details being everywhere.
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:43 PM
I already talked snoo down
There was no need to post that link
Nova01:43 PM
It's a shitty and purposely vague policy.
Naught01:43 PM
it's funny
Klop01:43 PM
yes. I don't want to risk getting banned again
and they will take action against the server if we don't enforce the policy
which I don't want
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:44 PM
If someone in the cwcki server is being problematic, tell me next time and I will deal with it
Val01:44 PM
This person specifically endlessly goes on about Chris I'm going to link a video if I want to go ahead and kick me from your server I don't care.
No..
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:44 PM
Then if they don't back down, you can do what's necessary
Well, you are gonna get kicked if you're going to act that way
Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion
15 October 2020
Summary: The Praetor account, owned by Caden, joins the server. Naught and Nova immediately start asking him questions while Chris steps away, mostly asking about their business and the finer details to their relationship with Chris. Praetor answers some of these, including tidbits on pricing and their creation process, though they refuse to disclose the split in income between themselves and Chris, claiming that Chris signed a confidentiality agreement. Praetor then asks questions of the Watchmen. I ask for social medias and they provide me with a Twitter and Instagram handle, as well as a business email. Chris returns and tells us about him hand-writing the script for his upcoming sermon video, and complains about certain content not being easily found on the CWCki.
#general (First Layer)
Chris (as Sonichu)04:11 PM
Hey, @everyone. I am in the better process of putting together my thoughts in regards to the Dimension Merge details Mama had previously laid out. I am hand-writing what she had typed up, word for word, because this was long overdue needed to be hand-written. As opposed to typed up, which is only around three-quarters as effective, but still works. It’s better to have it written by these very hands, regardless.
I am also making mental notes along the way, as well as using the mechanical pencil to write a few notes.
Nova04:12 PM
Why handwritten?
The WCT04:12 PM
I'm curious to see what you write up.
Naught04:13 PM
🧐
Chris (as Sonichu)04:13 PM
After I hand-write all of that, I will have a better idea of what to write up for the portion of the speech that pertains to the community aspect. Of which, I will include the experiences from the C-197 side and what the people around the Earth, there, have been personally experiencing since then.
Hey, Bis.
Since you’re here, have you found and allowed Caden into our server here?
I’ve texted you his Discord handle.
Naught04:14 PM
He hasnt responded
Caden's username is Praetor#1330
I sent a friend request
No reply
Chris (as Sonichu)04:16 PM
He’s messaged me on here; he’s new to the Discord app.
Nova04:16 PM
I don't exactly get why handwritten is better, it seems less clear and produced, plus typos and all.
Who is Caden?
Naught04:18 PM
@Praetor hello, who might you be?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:18 PM
Well, I wanted to take a momentary break, anyway.
Kyle, to answer your question, let me refer to the fact that Mama had hand-drawn and written her books and art pieces.
Praetor (Caden)04:19 PM
@ภคยﻮђՇ Hey there! I'm Caden, a friend of Christine.
There is a greater effect of magic and power directly from the hand with the pen or pencil on paper.
Nova04:20 PM
But the text was always typed, in all but the last few.
Naught04:20 PM
You the one making the medallion?
Nova04:20 PM
So is the Bible inherently less interesting depending on the version? As in, any copy ever is less interesting?
[1 ❓ reaction, likely from Chris]
Chris (as Sonichu)04:20 PM
This only mostly goes through if the new thought or event is typed up by these hands through a keyboard, turned into digital text, and uploaded onto the computer.
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:21 PM
Hello there Caden, nice to meet you
Chris (as Sonichu)04:21 PM
Not sure how to answer that question.
Nova04:22 PM
If it's mass produced, then typed is better, and also more readable.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:22 PM
But, yeah, @Praetor is making the medallions, and other additional things as well, including setting up a new shop on Etsy.
The WCT04:22 PM
@Praetor greetings! it is nice to meet you.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:23 PM
For now, I’m gonna take a shower, and I’ll return to hand-writing in a while. Please, go ahead and talk amongst yourselves about the ideas and theories of the Dimension Merge, including that thing with the double numbers on the Mayan calendar, the golden disc, and all that.
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:24 PM
Speak to you later, then!
Naught04:24 PM
Ok
The WCT04:24 PM
alright, have a good day Sonichu. I wish you the best of luck in your writings.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:25 PM
Speaking of which, here’s what I’ve drawn of that disc so far (still lacking the text on the in-between segments).
Nova04:25 PM
Figure out the split yet? Granted the process should not take this long.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:25 PM
Ice-Breaker for between Caden and you all.
Nova04:26 PM
Doesn't look segmented on that one, but 24 equidistant segments?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:26 PM
Yeah, I’ve drawn the circle and lines on the back for reference.
MKR04:26 PM
Zodiac?
Naught04:26 PM
@Praetor so you own the shop? Or you're on the handymen?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:26 PM
[1 ✅ reaction]
And I have mentioned Owen and Annie to @ภคยﻮђՇ.
Naught04:27 PM
It's some ancient Mayan calendar it was hyped up a couple years ago
Owen and Annie are the ones who heavily suggested there's a link between the merge and the calendar
Ive said it's yet another needless addition or a misguided interpretation
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:29 PM
Which was inaccurate even if it was true, since the Mayans didn't have leap day, offsetting the true date of their "apocalypse"
Nova04:29 PM
Granted, less faith in mesoamerican calendars given how much they sucked at intensive agriculture.
Naught04:29 PM
Exactly
MKR04:30 PM
Not to mention the sacrifice of children and others
Nova04:30 PM
Well, chinampas were a good idea, but that's about it.
Most of the land sucked and they had no idea how to maintain it.
Some areas did have volcanic ash soils, but the concept of fertilizer goes back as far as ancient Greece.
MKR04:33 PM
Anyway its probably not a great civilization to try to take much from for the lore. That being said, it doesn't surprise me that someone would try to troll you in such a way. It's not cool.
I wish people would stop
Naught04:34 PM
It's such a tired routine
The WCT04:34 PM
It’s all tiresome.
Nova04:35 PM
Good architecture, but boy did they suck at basically everything else.
Naught04:37 PM
I'm sure Owen & Annie are lovely people but another couple coming to influence or suggest things are related.. come the fuck on.. just help make the medallion.. keep your conspiracy theories for yourself..
Val04:40 PM
None of it matters, there's plenty of existing material to go through and put in order.
Nova04:52 PM
@Praetor So for products, what options are there? Have you sorted out the logistics/fulfillment?
Praetor (Caden)04:56 PM
@Nova We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:56 PM
*Amiibo
Praetor (Caden)04:56 PM
Thank you!
Nova04:57 PM
If the costs are right, what's the material cost on a medallion, what's the unit cost looking like overall?
Praetor (Caden)04:59 PM
It costs about 3 dollars per medallion. We sell them for 25 apiece, as to match our competitors. Etsy brand imposters are selling Medallions for 25-30. To uproot them, we must match or go below their prices.
If business is good, we'll increase sales by discounting them, selling them for 15-20
Nova05:00 PM
And what percentage is fulfillment? I know there are business accounts available through shipping services.
What's the casting process like?
Praetor (Caden)05:06 PM
Very simple. In order to emulate Sonichu's original medallion, they are stamped in a mold we made and baked. Then, painted. We mail them from our own company pocket for a while, as it is cheaper then registration with a mailing company. When we get big enough, we can afford to register and get discounted shipping services.
Nova05:07 PM
So you have a perfect master to work from.
Really that's the most important part, symmetrical and all that.
What percentage of costs are labor and shipping?
Praetor (Caden)05:17 PM
We've not shipped any yet, so we only have estimates. It won't be more then a few dollars.
The medallions are not large not heavy.
Nova05:18 PM
Also on that, what's the income split you're figuring?
Praetor (Caden)05:20 PM
We signed a confidentiality agreement with Sonichu, as we are a company. If Sonichu gives her consent, I can disclose profit splits and profit estimates.
Nova05:21 PM
Just ascertaining that it's not hopelessly one-sided.
Praetor (Caden)05:23 PM
Oh no, of course not. We've worked with creative types for about 3 years now. You may recognize a few of my more eccentric clients!
We don't only do merch. We helped him find someone to write a dissertation on the micronation's sovereignty.
He's using that to try and officiate his territory as a nation.
More power to him, I suppose.
What do y'all do? I'm excited to be working with this team.
Nova05:29 PM
I'm just the guy with answers for things.
Peachy05:30 PM
Idk how I’d title what I do 🤷♀️ cx
Naught05:31 PM
[Quoting "What do y'all do? I'm excited to be working with this team."]
@Praetor i keep weirdos away from cwc
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:31 PM
I mark down important information
Chronicling, as it were
Do you have a website, by chance?
Praetor (Caden)05:32 PM
So we have research, miscellaneous, bodyguard, and scribe??
Naught05:32 PM
Yes
Nova05:32 PM
Ever work with Phil?[footnote 2] I doubt he was smart enough to make his own merch.
Praetor (Caden)05:33 PM
I don't know any Phils. We love reaching out to folks though!
Who is he?
Val05:34 PM
I do everything.
When did you first learn of cwc?
Praetor (Caden)05:38 PM
I've always known about Christine. She always struck me as unique in the sense that she is probably one of the most famous people ever who has profitted the least from her fame.
When I heard that she had tried to launch a store before, but been overwhelmed, I knew that there was a chance at profit. I run almost everything I do privately, so I reached out to Christine myself.
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:39 PM
@Praetor Do you have a website, linkedin, or other business information?
Naught05:39 PM
Ok and the connection to "Owen and Marie?"
Praetor (Caden)05:44 PM
I used to have a website, but due to domain costs I took it down. When it comes to clients, I find that it's easier to find eccentric people then to have them find you. If you're interested in partnership or a meeting, I've been transitioning us to social media. We have a new twitter and an Instagram.
Our email is llcpraetor@gmail.com.
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:45 PM
Social media are the business tools of the future
What are they?
Praetor (Caden)05:46 PM
@praetor_llc and the Twitter is @praetor[footnote 3]
With social media, I can find my own clientele. Considering that I'm here, seems like things are working out!
[1 SonichuSmile[2] reaction, most likely from Chris]
?
Praetor (Caden)05:53 PM
Oh no, we know about Praetor LLC. They're actually not trademarked, we've talked to them. Their site is a homedone project. The only internationally trademarked Praetor brand is Praetor Technologies.
Naught05:54 PM
Oh
Praetor (Caden)05:54 PM
Local trademarks and international ones are different. Local ones are based within a state, and allow for brand witholding within the jurisdiction of a state. They are cheap. The international one is multiple grand.
Naught05:55 PM
So many people try this I loose track
Praetor (Caden)05:56 PM
I'm sure you get a lot of unfortunate attention here. Rest assured that it's not the case with us.
Naught06:16 PM
[Picture of a plush doll with its face covered by a black cloche hat]
Praetor (Caden)06:17 PM
She sleepin
Peachy06:21 PM
Fumo
MKR06:35 PM
[Art of the character Nights grinning and holding a newly-carved Jack O'Lantern]
The WCT06:36 PM
tfw you've yet to figure out what Night's gender is. lol
I don't think they're too far above board, even their listing has inconsistencies.
Or they don't count officers as employees somehow.
Chris (as Sonichu)07:32 PM
Hey. Just checking in and catching up on the conversation here. I am half-way through hand-writing what Mama had typed up now; be writing up part 3 shortly. Another reason for me hand-writing all of it is to further ingrain it into memory. That is done better via hand-writing as opposed to keyboard typing. Personally experienced, and proven fact by others.
Peachy07:33 PM
Handwriting helps me with memorizing
Nova07:34 PM
Ya, fine for a draft copy, but it seems like kind of a pain for an e book.
Anaxis (Lainchu)07:34 PM
I'm more partial to typing, personally. Handwriting for me just takes too long.
Praetor (Caden)07:34 PM
Agreed. I have bad handwriting anyway.
Nova07:37 PM
It's just more readable with a proper font, take handwritten notes, sure. But I really shouldn't have to explain the benefits of it being typed.
Anaxis (Lainchu)07:38 PM
Yes, writing it down once means it will all have to be transcribed a second time to typing, doubling the work
Nova07:54 PM
For the planning stage, that's fine, but it would be a poor stylistic choice to have the whole thing handwritten.
Chris (as Sonichu)07:56 PM
@ภคยﻮђՇ, I thank you very much for texting me the links earlier; apparently in Mama’s third tweet set, as I was going from the direct source on Twitter, a bunch of her tweets in that set got removed. Freaking haters. I am going from the page at this point.
Nova07:58 PM
So how would it be laid out, if it's just rehashing twitter, that really doesn't help add depth.
I have just finished writing out all of Part 3 of Mama’s tweet sets; the Longest one among them all.
The WCT10:14 PM
can you let us know when you post them?
Chris (as Sonichu)10:16 PM
Also, on Twitter, a bunch of the tweets were made Hidden from my view for some odd reason, and I’ve had to go with a link from Bismuth with a webpage capture on it, but it left out the last few tweets of that set, and I’ve had to log into Mama’s old Twitter account to get them.
AND, I’ve even tried looking on the Cwcki for the Tweet sets as well; They do not have them on there, or they are very difficult to find.
I will say this now, even though I have written it as a note on the paper page as well:
WHY was all of this NOT on the Freaking CWCKI?!!!!!!!!! (edited)
*sigh and *groan
Nova10:18 PM
Advanced twitter search any use, they might have a date sort?
Ya, they allow a date range.
Chris (as Sonichu)10:18 PM
Regardless, this highlights yet another reason why I am hand-writing all of this: to ensure all of it is on one source that can be referenced personally any time.
Yeah, these tweet sets were made mid to late October and early November, 2018.
Nova10:19 PM
But that's equally possible with text, and easier to index.
Chris (as Sonichu)10:19 PM
Presently beyond our skill set.
Nova10:20 PM
Although, aim higher than Twitter: The book (The movie)
I know enough about Chinese to know why they keep on saying fuck.
Although strangely the plot is better than the original.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:56 PM
@everyone, Woof! I’ve finished hand-writing all four parts of what Mama had typed up nearly two years ago. Dedicated this whole day to do it; Worth It.
The WCT11:57 PM
Can't wait to see it.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:57 PM
Tomorrow, I, Sonichu (Prime), will write up my own personal addition to all of that, talking about what the communities should be doing during these present times, as well as my experiences and witnessing some of these events.
Nova11:58 PM
I have to say, at least the level of knowledge I have on what actually happened, how much is there extra?
Chris (as Sonichu)11:58 PM
But, all of that which Mama had typed up, hand-written into a compsition book: Seventeen Pages worth.
ROFL, Kyle!
Nova11:58 PM
Well everyone who knows knows that much, whats the hook like?
Chris (as Sonichu)11:59 PM
If it were to be written, the number of books that would be written would be into the Billions of pages’ worth.
Summary: Chris and Nova have a discussion about the nature of morality. I ask if Chris has had any other intermittent possessions besides the ones he had informed us about, and he insists that he is always in control. Nova continues the (now mostly one-sided) philosophical discussion, during which Chris pivots into talking about sports.
#general (First Layer)
Chris (as Sonichu)12:00 AM
For now, the Editor is still on call until after I write up my share later.
Nova12:00 AM
The Bible, we have anecdotes, but its generally what we can view as moral anecdotes, which is more useful for underpinning morality.
Maybe I'm getting ignored, so at least answer this, what's the point?
Chris (as Sonichu)01:35 AM
Okay, @Nova, I was not ignoring you earlier; I was going into relief and satisfaction after finishing that hand-writing job, which sealed all that better into this brain’s conscious and subconscious.
And to answer your question, this Bible will not be one that underpins morality, but promotes creativity and exploration in general with short stories of the experiences and adventures of Chris Chan Sonichu and what did, does and will do in helping to make this Omega timeline, the bond between dimensions, and the relationship between Original Creators and Original Creations, a whole lot better for everyone with her efforts and the help of her fellow deities, family, friends and allies.
Nova01:41 AM
Morals are how we know better.
Nothing is so clear cut without it.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:42 AM
And the point of it at this time is to offer a better sense of faith and guidance in the Dimension Merge that is still to come, regardless of I and this body going back in time to prevent Covid, and all of that.
True.
Anyway, it will all still be worth it.
Nova01:43 AM
I like to deal in the concrete, don't doubt someone can be more creative than me, but ideas ain't worth jack past your ability to see things through.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:43 AM
I mean, there is a time for Morals, and then there’s the times where you have to temporarily abandon morals to help yourself and others around you.
Nova01:43 AM
I disagree.
There are constraints, and I always accept judgement.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:44 AM
Good point.
Nova01:45 AM
I'm still not quite sure, and I dedicate my life to morality and ethics.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:45 AM
Pretty much like I have to accept the fated moment of body-swapping with Mama, and being still in here for longer than six months.
Good for you.
Nova01:46 AM
It's a testament to a lifetime commitment, it's never a done thing so we always have to consider things.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:49 AM
Meanwhile, I’ve had to take my fair share, and then some, of suffering, especially during those months with IdeaGuy and those freaking Nazis and all that shit. I stayed strong as much as possible throughout all that, and then I let manipulation and temptation get the better of me and I rampaged against Mama and Christine Chan. And Mama tried to help me with genuine kindness that I was too stubborn at the time to appreciate. I couldn’t do much about it until after when Finally Mama uses her aether to undo all of that shit. But I still remember it. I’ve grown from that as well.
Nova01:50 AM
We care about what we learn from experience, just experiencing things isn't always constructive.
The difference you make is what shows beliefs.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:50 AM
yep
Nova01:50 AM
Easy to be contrarian, but to learn something, is far harder than explaining it.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:50 AM
I am making a lot of differences now in these events and matters.
And I have learned from these past months.
I’ve realized and accepted my own limitations and inability to do her job as well as only she could.
Nova01:51 AM
So what shows up that appears to be a contradiction, but isn't because contradictions don't exist.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:52 AM
Sometimes, they’re a blessing in disguise.
Nova01:52 AM
It is or it isn't, but always doing right demands more elucidation.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:53 AM
Ha, I agree. Funny I actually know that term, “elucidation”, yet I’ve never heard it before.
Shows that this noggin is strongly connected with the Cosmos and the other Chris Chans in all timelines and dimensions.
Nova01:54 AM
Most basic logic, the necessity of qualifiers, had longer than enough to figure it out, how we weight them shows values, character comes from consistency in something and the ability to explain it.
Anyone can fuck up at any point.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:55 AM
ALOL
Nova01:55 AM
It's never an excuse, thought is free.
Chris (as Sonichu)01:56 AM
I came onto Discord to also ask Bismuth what keeps him awake for extensive amount of hours in a week, but I end up getting a life lesson that affirms what I’ve learned and figured out from you.
Nova01:57 AM
And that asking people can help, God knows I've fucked up, I hate it and we can never go back from anything but change is still possible.
[1 SonichuSmile[2] reaction, most likely from Chris]
[Quoting "Shows that this noggin is strongly connected with the Cosmos and the other Chris Chans in all timelines and dimensions."]
@Sonichu982 If you don't mind me asking, have you had any more intermittent possessions, such as when Chris of 1214 was here?
Nova01:59 AM
No fault, only some fleeting gain from not knowing in such a way that it arbitrarily contributes to something again having no fault in, or are responsible for by some strange virtue of necessity. (edited)
Chris (as Sonichu)02:00 AM
I only allow this body to be additionally possessed by conscious, lucid choice; it is 24/7/365 protected from intrusive, unwelcomed possessions. And any that may slip in are immediately recognized and forced out.
I’ve also had Val come into this body a few times; lately, it’s been for maintanance and upgrade purposes.
Anaxis (Lainchu)02:01 AM
Oh, of course. I was referring to any friendly possessions by trusted individuals.
Thanks for answering.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:03 AM
Of course.
Nova02:03 AM
I tend to overreach in the grand scheme, but I never lose my place. Sometimes things are incontrovertible and inexorable, that's life.
Could get hit by a bus, but in terms of what matters, life being the only paradigm that matters.
That's no challenge, there's nothing to promote yourself to beyond that which is immediately relevant, I'm just stubborn enough to want to argue with God when I eventually die.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:08 AM
Well, I’ve had to take a can of Game Fuel in intervals to make sure this bod and brain was energized to get through all that hand-writing, focus and processing.
Nova02:08 AM
Would I be more objective if I thought only in geological time?
Chris (as Sonichu)02:08 AM
It’s pretty good, and I like the closable plastic tab on the can; if only all cans would employ that.
I’ll be up for a while longer before the crash kicks in.
Permanence may rob everything and living for the moment is something we can all be perfectly fine with, because I don't care if I'll be oil someday, because I'd had that much more experience living without something that cannot possibly concern me.
Maybe if I didn't work so hard, I'd marginally delay the heat death of the universe, when you get to rationalizing infinity or indefinite terms , there's absolutely no meaning to it.
You, follow college football?
Chris (as Sonichu)02:17 AM
He was one of the individuals IdeaGuy tried to pawn off on Mama as someone she should look up to; she even bought a holographic trading card with Saban on it.
Not really.
Nova02:18 AM
Infinitely simpler that it was a bunch of crap, there's more than enough character evidence against it in that sense.
I've always been amazed by how penetrable law is if you can just put one thing before the other to make arguments.
In her sportsplay, though, her skills in this timeline excel at Tennis, Volleyball, Swimming, and Ice Skating.
And Miniture Golf.
Nova02:21 AM
Wanting to get a boomerang actually.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:22 AM
Mama has a boomerang that she threw a few times; a souvenir from the Luray Caverns gift shop.
Nova02:22 AM
I've done semi-professional golf, it's an excellent sport.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:24 AM
“Silence is strong at the tee as Arnold Palmer readies his shot on this 18th hole. It is a really tough one, as Palmer takes a meditation and deep breaths to control the strength of his swing and gauge the wind speeds and direction. He takes the shot! He gets very close to the green. Amazing Shot.”
Nova02:24 AM
I can drive accurately 250, which is into the LGPA range.
Tea, Food, Favorite Musicals & Movies
16 October 2020
Summary: Chris, Nova and I briefly talk about enjoying different teas, with Chris stating that he enjoys making tea for any friendly visitors who come by his home. Nova and Chris then have a cross-discussion about favorite musicals and movies, and food, which I join in on later.
I've seen clips of Singin' in the Rain but haven't seen any of the others
Nova02:38 AM
Why the term "delicacies" exists.
Anaxis (Lainchu)02:38 AM
Not my area of expertise, I admit
Chris (as Sonichu)02:39 AM
Mama actually suggested “Singin’ in the Rain” for the skill of the Kirinu Leaves card the TSSSF people were making with the audience suggestions. Didn’t happen, but she made it happen with this card.
I'm not big on catholicism, but hey. I can't think of much that got an exception.
Ortolan bunting did.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:41 AM
You should at least rent and check out these four musicals.
Gene Kelly sells it well in “Singin’ in the Rain” along with his cast mates. “Make ‘em Laugh!”
Love, Romance, Family Drama and fun to be had in “Meet Me in St. Louis”.
Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra playing it up in scores in “On the Town”
Nova02:43 AM
I'm not going to say I illegally used gas chromatography equipment, but I might have.
Chemistry is brilliant stuff.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:44 AM
And it’s Not a bore with the growing relationship with overlooking Trolls that were the hoi polli of Paris and the ettequite lessons that developed a wild and fun girl that he loved, narrated and starring as well, Maurice Chevaliez (if I spelled his last name wrong, I apologize), in the movie of the young life of “GiGi”.
Going from Mama’s memory alone, I could go on and on.
Nova02:45 AM
Etiquette as a field of study is reserved to formal occasions.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:45 AM
Ha-ha, yes.
Nova02:46 AM
Ever think of doing a cooking vlog, I find it interesting that you defaulted to omelets.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:46 AM
But also for a fun moment in casual get-togethers with friends.
Nova02:47 AM
Typically those are more advanced in terms of simply eggs.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:47 AM
Mama had considered cooking videos, but she would need someone else to hold and manage the camera while she worked.
Mama is not sure how to make eggs scrambled, but she can fry them as well.
Nova02:48 AM
Brutalmoose did some, he did highly edited ones, but that would be the aspiration rather than the immediate reality.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:48 AM
With or without the dash of ghost pepper sauce, she can make a good omelette. Even a spinach omelette if she had the vegetable on-hand and ready.
Nova02:49 AM
It's an excellent effort, give it a shot.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:50 AM
She’s picked up a few extra tips from her two years of Home Ec in High School, and watching Barb and Roberchu; she also did Blue Apron for a few months, before she lost ability to afford that.
Anaxis (Lainchu)02:50 AM
Whoa, ghost pepper sauce! I can't handle anything too spicy 🥵
[1 SonichuLOL[3] reaction, most likely from Chris]
Chris (as Sonichu)02:50 AM
We still have the recipie cards.
Nova02:51 AM
Those services are a premium on cheaper stuff, I can suggest a few things.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:51 AM
She tried and had troubles cooking roast beef.
She can also cook a good hamburger, as well as grilled chicken.
Nova02:51 AM
Hey, Walter White was a great cook owing to his chemistry education, and so am I.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:51 AM
Give her a cookbook, and the ingredients, and she can do wonders following the instructions.
Nova02:52 AM
So try filming some more intermediate stuff, that would be impressive or at least interesting.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:53 AM
Eventually, maybe; perhaps in the new timeline, she will.
Nova02:53 AM
I've done soufflés, don't try that.
Thinking in the here and now helps a lot.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:53 AM
For now, even though this is still her body and brain, remember who is still in control of it until when I can get it back to her.
We’ve heard that it takes great care and intricite details to cook a souffle.
not to mention a lack of loud noises.
“You’ll wake the baby and deflate my souffle!”
Nova02:54 AM
More about timing, pleased to say mine lasted an hour, which shows phenomenally peak process.
[1 👍 reaction, most likely from Chris]
Its not a fucking nuke, but it is complex.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:55 AM
I think it was mentioned that one of Mama’s favourite tv shows she likes to rebinge is “Frasier”.
Nova02:55 AM
Sticking to active things would fulfill a here and now role quite well.
Ya, it's a sitcom cliche, I've had friends who worked in haute cuisine.
It ain't like that though.
Chris (as Sonichu)02:56 AM
Agreed, Neko.
Nova02:58 AM
Bone marrow, that's great shit. 👌
Chris (as Sonichu)02:58 AM
Robertchu would often treat Mama and Barb to good food and fine dining as much as possible, including the simple diners, like that little restaurant that had a good ol’ Tony who made a really good hot hamburger plate, and they had good hot dogs at Linda’s.
So, yeah, she has an appreciation for all kinds of dining and levels of food.
Nova02:59 AM
Most small restaurants are fine, it's the pride we can take in our own creations, that's the closest we get to magic,
Chris (as Sonichu)02:59 AM
Definitely.
The best quality hot dog, I tell you, is in Staunton, Virgina with Riley’s diner; they have a massive foot-long hot dog in a sub roll, dubbed the Dogzilla.
Nova03:00 AM
Been watching Ratatouille, the end part of that, wow.
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:00 AM
Ratatouille's a very inspiring movie
Nova03:01 AM
In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the *new*. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new: an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook." But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist; but a great artist *can* come from *anywhere*. It is difficult to imagine more humble origins than those of the genius now cooking at Gusteau's, who is, in this critic's opinion, nothing less than the finest chef in France. I will be returning to Gusteau's soon, hungry for more.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:01 AM
Mama’s seen clips and heard of that movie; I’m certain we can watch it on Disney+ nowadays.
Mama’s taste buds are hard to displease.
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:01 AM
Oh, have you not seen it? It's a great film. You should watch it if you get the chance.
Mama’s favourite animated movie of all time goes to “Toy Story”, but her favourite movie of all time, in general, is “Mary Poppins.” As for me, though, I can’t say for sure from the movies I’ve watched with Rosey, Cera, Christine and Roberta.
Nova03:05 AM
Toohey: "Mr. Roark, we're alone here. Why don't you tell me what you think of me? In any words you wish. No one will hear us."
I just like the idea I have more fidelity as a person than absolute garbage that's contemporary.
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:12 AM
He's made some of the worst films ever
Saberspark, Animation, The Golden Girls & Betty White, Sleep Schedules
16 October 2020
Summary: Chris and I briefly talk about our shared enjoyment of the YouTuber Saberspark, which then turns into a brief discussion about animation. Chris asks us about staying awake for long periods at a time, which results in us (Naught, Nova, WCT, and myself) sharing our sleep habits. Chris mentioning the Hallmark channel causes me to talk about the TV sitcom The Golden Girls with him, as well as actress Betty White. Eventually, Chris states that he is ready to go to bed, and we all say goodnight.
“I’ll have two number nines, a number nine large, a number six with extra dip, a number seven, two number forty-fives, one with cheese, and a large soda.”
« No-one knows what the future holds. That's why its potential is infinite. » Steins;Gate
Nova03:24 AM
That too.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:24 AM
Wow. Mama’s waifus; not sure what to say about that, except you could definitely classify her as a furry, if her Sonichu form did not make that obvious already over a decade ago.
Since you’re on, let me ask you: How do you maintain staying awake for multuple days and nights out of a whole week?
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:25 AM
[Quoting "I thought they were impressive. The Polar Express was my childhood."]
I could never get into Polar Express, personally. Seemed to be a lot of style over substance.
Naught03:25 AM
Coffee
Chris (as Sonichu)03:25 AM
Just coffee?
And you’re used to going to sleep only once a week. (edited)
Naught03:26 AM
For the most part yeah
Nova03:26 AM
Generally it's not healthy, but if you've got a sleep disorder, whatever.
Naught03:27 AM
Sometimes I'd like to sleep more but i just go with it
Chris (as Sonichu)03:27 AM
Sadly, with Mama, I would have to agree with you.
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:27 AM
The fact that we're all up at this hour indicates we should all improve our sleeping habits, lol
Naught03:27 AM
Lel
The WCT03:27 AM
I have a sleep schedule.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:27 AM
Me, though, I drank a Game Fuel in incriments to make sure this body and brain kept up its energy in hand-writing all of that today.
The WCT03:27 AM
2-3 AM is where I usually hit the hay. (edited)
Chris (as Sonichu)03:28 AM
Guess what time it is where I am.
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:28 AM
Hmm...
Near 3:30 AM?
Chris (as Sonichu)03:28 AM
The challenge was for Neko, but you are right.
Naught03:28 AM
I try but fail so yeah
I'm not a fan of energy drinks they mess with my tummy.
2am?
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:28 AM
Oh, sorry
Nova03:28 AM
Been up a lot longer, sparingly.
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:29 AM
Didn't mean to spoil the challenge
Nova03:29 AM
My record is 6 days, 13 hours, DON'T DO THAT.
The WCT03:29 AM
[Quoting "Near 3:30 AM?"]
yup, Eastern Time.
Nova03:30 AM
Could have done longer, but then I started caring again.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:30 AM
Speaking from Mama’s experiences with her all-nighters, unless she’s focued with the task that caused her to pull that all-nighter in the first place, after she’s completed the task or called a morning, she dosn’t know what to do with herself, other than watch reruns on Hallmark Channel, or something.
I do not think her body has ever exceeded 24 hours in staying awake.
Nova03:31 AM
Helps to schedule, but that would require concrete goals.
Maybe you should make a youtube channel and see then
Nova03:40 AM
Hollywood is a crapshoot anyway, I make my own options.
Fuck, that's a good movie/show too.
Chris (as Sonichu)03:55 AM
I’m beginning to feel like I’m gonna crash in a little bit. I’ll check y’all later. Goodnight.
The WCT03:55 AM
Nighty nite! @Sonichu982 🙂
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:55 AM
Sleep well
Nova03:55 AM
Night.
Naught03:55 AM
Gnite
Nova03:56 AM
All I've gotta say is, I'm here, judgement, sure, but you can ask me anything and I feel that might be a disconnect with people who might be less than optimal in terms of ideals.
More Food Discussion With Praetor
16 October 2020
Summary: Praetor pops in to respond to a message that Nova sent about food hours earlier, and the two of them have a brief discussion on the topic, which MKR joins as well.
#general (First Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Praetor (Caden)04:41 AM
[Quoting "Always wanted to try ortolan bunting."]
@Nova I was just reading through the messages, have you ever seen Hannibal?
Nova04:42 AM
No, I just scarcely respect the French.
Praetor (Caden)04:43 AM
Fair enough! That one's my favorite show, ortolan is a recipe they show in it.
Nova04:43 AM
Cognac is alright, although I'd experiment with a nice whisky.
Praetor (Caden)04:45 AM
I like quail. You can attempt an ortolan's flavor by soaking a cooked one in armagnac, and having it served flambé
I really love to cook, when money permits it.
Nova04:45 AM
Eggs and organs, those are cheap.
General rule is to theme around protein.
Eggs go well with rice, so stir fry is easy.
Praetor (Caden)04:46 AM
I agree! The meat is the main course.
Do you like pad thai?
Nova04:47 AM
I've never found anything I won't eat.
Not big on some kinds of fish sauce.
I'd think that this would be less of a concern for someone who commutes as much as you might, I'm just terminally cheap.
Praetor (Caden)05:11 AM
Oh no, for sure. Good food is nice, but you know what tastes better in the long run?
Saving money.
Nova05:13 AM
Most good stuff is cheap anyway.
MKR05:18 AM
I eat what I can afford, I like to bake things sometimes.
Nova05:18 AM
Baking is easier for people who like strict instructions.
MKR05:22 AM
Most of the time I just eat things like ramen with boiled egg to spruce it up.
Nova05:22 AM
Meat works well, oil is fine too, been adding cream to it whilst boiling, that's alright too.
MKR05:24 AM
Yeah it's fun to experiment, though I'm still not a big fan or organ meat I'll eat most things without complaining.
Nova05:25 AM
Liver and kidney sucks, unless you're a Brit who looks like James May.
Heart is just muscle.
MKR05:25 AM
Yeah, heart seems pretty alright if it doesn't get all tough. But liver is nasty
Nova05:26 AM
I've wanted to do some experiments with slow cooking, can suggest a few things, its all basic chemistry.
Praetor (Caden)11:11 AM
Ah, I still don't like baking. I'm not a sweets guy anyway. If you screw up in baking, it's so easy to completely bomb your dish.
November 2020
Chris's Body Shakes
12 November 2020
Summary: Chris @s everyone with "Red Alert," informing us that his body is shaking. Chris insists that it's Dimensional Merge related, but Nova tries to diagnose him. Nova asks Chris various questions, but cannot glean much information due to Chris's insistence that this has to do with his psychic powers. Eventually, Chris states that the shaking has stopped, taking it as a sign that a major event had just occurred.
#general (First Layer)
Chris (as Sonichu)04:23 PM
@everyone, this is a Red Alert. I am sensing a major problem arising. This body is shaking quite a bit right now, and I am doing my best to keep it stable.
@everyone, please, report in with your local findings and events.
Naught04:24 PM
What's happening?
Ok
Are dts shakes?
Nova04:25 PM
Yes.
How exactly the shakes are described is diagnostically useful.
Seizures have many varieties, tonic is stiffening, clonic is twitching.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:27 PM
Well, considering this body is heavily linked with the dimensions and this planet, the body shaking is a sign that something major is happening. This is not a seizure.
Nova04:28 PM
But the same mechanisms don't discount that.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:28 PM
Fair enough. Still, can’t ignore this, either.
Nova04:28 PM
Exactly what I'm trying to do.
Describe it? Depending on specificity can indicate a lot.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:33 PM
Well, it feels like the body is shaking in time with an earthquake, even though there is no literal earthquake on the land mass, here.
Nova04:34 PM
Any stiffening or rigidity?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:34 PM
No
Nova04:35 PM
Signs of unilaterality?
As in, is one side isolated in the symptoms?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:37 PM
The whole body’s shaking, so it’s not just one side of the body or the other.
Nova04:38 PM
How long did it last, was it more consistent throughout or did it taper off?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:38 PM
At the moment, the shakes are fading away, but are still present.
Nova04:40 PM
Generally still aware during the incident?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:41 PM
Yes, very much self-aware and aware of all other things as much as possible.
Nova04:43 PM
I can think it would be best to try basic cognition exercises just to delineate along less ambiguous terms.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:45 PM
Yeah, this brain and all of its wisdom and knowledge have been getting lots of exercise lately.
Nova04:46 PM
More of a basic rundown of how effective aspects are that engage different areas of the brain to isolate possible problems.
Very easy to say everything is always fine.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:47 PM
Well, what exercises do you recommend?
Nova04:48 PM
Counting up in a patterned way generally requires enough effort to engage a few areas.
[1 👍 reaction, likely from Chris]
Semantic might be harder to test.
Try writing down the names of the first items you see, tests spatial acuity as well as many linguistic areas of the brain.
[1 👍 reaction, likely from Chris]
Are the motions rhythmic?
This does represent a serious issue for day to day things.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:54 PM
What motions do you mean? The shaking?
Nova04:54 PM
Yes.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:55 PM
Ah. Rhythmic like an earthquake, yes.
Nova04:55 PM
Approximate period?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:55 PM
Also like a jackhammer hammering away at pavement.
Within the past half-hour.
Also, it should be noted, I had to get up early this morning, because Barb had an appointment in cardiology at 10:15; she wanted me to get up at 7:30 am.
I only got two and a half hours of sleep.
Nova04:57 PM
From a nutritional perspective the usual things to look at are sodium, calcium, glucose, but that would be far easier to tell.
Generally people with undiagnosed conditions along these lines are heavily discouraged from driving.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:57 PM
Got back home started towards a nap at 3:30. And after 4:30, the body shook.
Nova04:58 PM
Did you remember to eat today?
Chris (as Sonichu)04:58 PM
Yes
Nova04:59 PM
It would be something to consider, if this happens when you're driving, that wouldn't be good.
Chris (as Sonichu)04:59 PM
Obviously.
And when I turned the coloured light bulb back up, it turned orange in cautionary; didn’t change to a different colour.
Nova05:01 PM
The last time you went to the doctor, how did you describe these?
Chris (as Sonichu)05:01 PM
But I did manually change it to blue after.
Nova05:01 PM
The light is psychic?
Chris (as Sonichu)05:02 PM
I think I’ve went over the light bulb with you before. And as I say that, this moment resonated a Deja Vu.
Nova05:03 PM
One of those programmable LEDs, really popular in the last few years.
Chris (as Sonichu)05:03 PM
You or someone stated possible faulty wiring in the colour bulb or the remote that would contribute to the fated colour changes on days and nights when applicable.
Considering this body has psychic powers, it’s no surprise that it would relay into the bulb.
Nova05:04 PM
I've built things like these with breadboards. Consumer electronics are kind of crap.
Naught05:05 PM
You're a godsend nova
Chris (as Sonichu)05:06 PM
Regardless, a massive event has been indicated by the body shakes.
Nova05:06 PM
@ภคยﻮђՇ Thanks.
Naught05:06 PM
Nonetheless still applicable to the overall scenario
Nova05:06 PM
It's generally poor clairvoyance to ascribe a meaning later.
I know I could do better, but unlike Mama, herself, who does know better for the latter, I’m still learning and figuring out how this body works and improve on its powers and abilities. As well as physically improve it with my own soulful influence. (edited)
Nova05:10 PM
Randi. Ya.
Naught05:11 PM
Soulful influence implies a solid foundation which is what were doing
Its all fun, kind of sick how rich some of those people got, but that's just how money works.
Chris (as Sonichu)05:25 PM
Clairvoyance showed a mountain range in the background of a forest area in either Minnesota or Montana, possibly around that portal sign in Nebraska.
It was likely a heavy breach between dimensions.
I am going to rest now.
Check y’all later.
MKR Complains About Moderator Removal
23 November 2020
Summary: MKR discovers that she is no longer a moderator on the CWCki Server, so she @s me and Klop for answers. I try to explain the reasoning and assuage her concerns, but she remains adamant that this was a malicious move, and expresses her distrust towards me. Val interjects, believing he was banned from the server, and when I inform him this was not the case, he asks to be let back in. I continue insisting that the Watchmen don't know anything less than I do as a mod, and MKR continues to express her suspicion regardless.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
MKR05:01 PM
@Lainchu @CatLoPez
Why am I no longer admin in Cwcki server?
Its pissed me off a little bit to be honest because I've done nothing wrong?
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:08 PM
It's not punishment, we just try to keep the modstaff limited to people who actually mod on the server
MKR05:08 PM
It feels like punishment
You let pay fags buy admin apparently
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:09 PM
We had a few incidents with people on the modstaff who weren't modding, and since then we've been keeping it limited by design
We don't, who told you that?
MKR05:09 PM
>_>
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:10 PM
It wasn't malicious
Klop05:10 PM
I'm no longer there btw
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:10 PM
Just a logistical move
MKR05:10 PM
Most of us aren't and it concerns me
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:11 PM
I'm still there
Klop05:11 PM
yeah
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:11 PM
I've got eyes on everyone
Val05:11 PM
Im banned too
MKR05:11 PM
I don't think I trust you lainchu
Val05:11 PM
From their
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:11 PM
If there's a problem person then I'll let you know
Then you're free to check it out yourself, mkr
I don't know what to tell you
Val was kicked, not banned
Val05:12 PM
@Lainchu okay send link again
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:12 PM
Okay, just don't post someone's dox again
MKR05:12 PM
Google hangouts isn't a dox
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:12 PM
Not you, Val
[Discord invite link]
Val05:13 PM
Thank you
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:15 PM
Idk why you don't trust me, I tell you guys whenever I see something worth reporting
MKR05:16 PM
Because I don't trust anyone
Especially not people who do things behind my back
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:17 PM
Again, the removal from modstaff wasn't an underhanded move
I'm sorry if it offended you
MKR05:21 PM
You could have talked to me about it beforehand.
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:24 PM
I wasn't the one who made the decision
Val05:26 PM
@Lainchu so who did?
Anaxis (Lainchu)05:27 PM
Idk, maybe the server owner at the time?
I don't remember how high-ranked I was then
Naught06:58 PM
So fucken predictable
Nova09:52 PM
IDK, I don't really have a lot of interest in wrangling on there, I don't check the server much.
December 2020
MKR Continues Complaining About Moderator Removal
19 December 2020
Summary: MKR @s me in an attempt to get her moderator role on the CWCki Server back, and I refuse on the grounds that she wasn't actually interested in moderating the server. She responds flippantly, and restates a conspiracy theory about the server. We continue retreading the same ground as it becomes clear that nothing I say will make MKR believe me. I eventually ask why she even wants the role, and her response is "Because you took it away," a reason which I say isn't good enough. The argument ends with her continuing to act antagonistic towards me over this issue.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
MKR10:42 PM
@Lainchu how much do I have to buttfuck you to get mod? Lel
Sorry, but I can't give mod if you're not going to actually moderate the server
Besides, I thought you hated the cwcki server?
MKR10:47 PM
No one actually fucking moderates the server.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:48 PM
Look, like I've said before, if you want to keep an eye on users there, that's fine as long as you follow the rules
You don't need a mod role for that
MKR10:48 PM
I just don't see why I can't be a mod if you're going to give it out to anyone who gives you tardbucks?
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:48 PM
I can tell you that the mods aren't conspiring against us
MKR10:49 PM
Hmm
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:49 PM
[Replying to "I just don't see why I can't be a mod if you're going to give it out to anyone who gives you tardbucks?"]
We don't
MKR10:49 PM
You do tho
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:49 PM
I don't know what to tell you
I'm telling the truth lol
MKR10:50 PM
Just makes me wonder what else you might be lying about?
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:50 PM
I haven't lied about anything
I get that you didn't like the fact that you were removed from the modstaff without warning, and I'm sorry about that, but it took you something like 3 months to notice because you were inactive there
It wasn't malicious, we just had a change in how we ran things, and since you didn't seem to care (until recently) we didn't say anything
MKR10:55 PM
Hmm 🤔
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:57 PM
You can be suspicious all you want, I've told you the truth several times over at this point, and clearly nothing I say will make you believe me
MKR10:58 PM
Then why not restore it? (edited)
Get rid of one of the payfags?
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:00 PM
1. I can't give you mod if you're not going to actually moderate, as I've said already
2. Nobody has paid to become a mod
And again, why do you even want it? Clearly you don't like the server.
MKR11:00 PM
You say that but I don't believe I've ever said I hated it.
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:01 PM
[Quoting "The cwcki discord on the other hand is a cesspool of retardation. Lol"]
MKR11:01 PM
Yes, but I didn't say I hated it
I like that part about it
Why would I be here helping Chris chan if I wasn't a fan of retards?
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:03 PM
Fair enough
But if you believe that we let people pay their way in (which we don't), how is me granting you mod powers "just 'cause" any better?
MKR11:05 PM
Because they were given to me by your predecessor and you took them away without so much as asking me first.
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:05 PM
That same predecessor was the one who took it away, not me
MKR11:06 PM
Really?
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:06 PM
I was part of the discussion about removing mod roles from non-mods, but the decision was his, not mine
I wasn't the owner at the time
MKR11:06 PM
I doubt they would not have contacted me?
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:06 PM
I'm just upholding the policy
MKR11:07 PM
It's a discord server not a business ya dope.
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:07 PM
Doesn't matter, I agree with it
I can only apologize about what happened, but the policy hasn't changed
MKR11:08 PM
Hmm do you have evidence to back up it was in fact his decision to do so?
I don't believe he would have without telling us.
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:08 PM
Who, [REDACTED]?
Yeah, he did
We did it to several people who we believed were inactive
MKR11:09 PM
Inactive> threat
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:10 PM
Can I ask again: why do you want it?
MKR11:10 PM
Why do you think I want it?
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:10 PM
I don't know, but I don't think it's for moderation
You didn't seem that interested in doing that last time
That's why you were removed in the first place
MKR11:11 PM
I think you're deflecting again
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:12 PM
You're the one who isn't answering the question lol
Just tell me why you want it
MKR11:12 PM
Because you took it away
As far as inactivity is concerned, I have to leave my discord on offline mode
Otherwise the weens ping it more
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:13 PM
[Replying to "Because you took it away"]
I'm sorry, but that reason isn't good enough
I know you're upset that it was taken, but I can't give it back just because you want it
But this wasn't about information, it was about you taking away a thing I had without telling me. That's pretty rude bro
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:28 PM
Again, it wasn't me
And again, I apologized
MKR11:28 PM
Not a good one
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:29 PM
And let's face it, if I had told you, would you have just accepted it and not be asking for it back anyway?
MKR11:29 PM
Yes
Chris Argues in The WCT's Favor and The WCT is Unbanned
24 December 2020
Summary: Chris argues on behalf of WCT, who had previously been kicked from the Place earlier in the month, to let him back in. Naught and Nova argue against this, but Chris doesn't give in, and eventually WCT is granted access to the First Layer again. In the Second Layer, Naught complains that WCT "told on [them]," while Nova insults WCT's intelligence. I ask about specifics around WCT's kick, and Naught gives a vague elaboration.
What happened with WCT anyway? Was he really kicked for the info leaking and politisperging, or was that just what was told to him and chris?
Naught04:29 PM
Yeah, namedrops too much
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:36 PM
Namedrops?
Naught04:37 PM
Saying he hangs out with cwc in a server
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:37 PM
Oh, I see
MKR09:05 PM
Leaking info is bad
Chris's "Avatar State" and Bella, New Age Discussion, Nova and MKR Distrust Praetor
28-29 December 2020
Summary: Chris compares an "ability" he believes to have with the Avatar State, a power-up ability seen in the TV show Avatar: The Last Airbender, and mentions Bella for the first time. He credits her as the one who gave him the idea, and for creating the "Chris Chan Sonichu intro animation" which he had previously posted onto YouTube. Nova and I discuss this idea with Chris, during which Nova discusses the nature of new age practices and medicines. MKR joins in, and the conversation turns to her and Nova calling Praetor "conmen" and claiming they may have committed a felony. Chris pushes back against them, stating he will not entertain the discussion at that time, and he and Nova get into another argument about Chris's thought process.
In the Second Layer, we briefly discuss who Bella is and Praetor's influence on Chris's beliefs.
Hey, y’all. Today was yet another real doozy with a bunch more constant meditation. I’ve ended up learning about the deeper meditation that this body tends to do at times that I, as the soul host during this time, or Chris if she was in this body, can resume control and take advantage of. Borrowing the term from the Nickelodeon show: being in the Avatar State.
Nova09:42 PM
So, like a remote desktop?
Chris (as Sonichu)09:44 PM
The term was brought to my attention today by Bella, and it piqued my curiosity, so I looked up its definition; even saw the episode titled “The Avatar State”. What this is similar to what happens. It involves Chris Core (of the Solar Plexus (to correct the misunderstood chakra term of Sacral; that’s below the Solar and above the Root) essentially taking over conscious control of the body and brain, and even able to access the powers and abilities from deeper within the body.
So, yeah, I have this topic some further thought. This can also be comparable to when Star Butterfly transformed and flew through portals in her sleep for a time; her Star Core, if you will, taking conscious control over the body while Star, herself, was temporarily disabled and unconscious.
Also watched the movie “Soul” on Disney+ today; really good movie.
Nova09:48 PM
Should find some of the Dcoms sometime, Ian reviewed some.
Lainchu (Anaxis)09:49 PM
Just saw Soul! Really enjoyed it.
[1 👍 reaction, likely from Chris]
Lainchu (Anaxis)09:49 PM
[Replying to "The term was brought to my attention today by Bella, and it piqued my curiosity, so I looked up its definition; even saw the episode titled “The Avatar State”. What this is similar to what happens. It involves Chris Core (of the Solar Plexus (to correct the misunderstood chakra term of Sacral; that’s below the Solar and above the Root) essentially taking over conscious control of the body and brain, and even able to access the powers and abilities from deeper within the body."]
Who is Bella?
Chris (as Sonichu)09:49 PM
As for me, though, not totally unconscious, but left in observation mode while Chris Core had control of the body in the Avatar State (I feel like there is a different term synonymous to that), I remain somewhat conscious. And I can regain control should I fell need to and have a reason.
One of our Praetor group friends; she’s the one who made up the lovely animation:
Hopefully not the one who made those mock edits to the speech.
Oh ya, the gratuitous porny one?
Chris (as Sonichu)09:51 PM
We are not judging, plus she’s actually cool to talk with.
Nova09:51 PM
Judgement is good, sycophants are cheap.
Chris (as Sonichu)09:52 PM
Anyway, pretty much a let-you-know on this bit of progress in figuring out the further details of Chris’ body’s abilities and powers.
Nova09:54 PM
I kind of prefer something more incremental, if I could do it, well, little question I'd still be the best at it, I just don't see a need.
Chris (as Sonichu)09:54 PM
What are y’all’s thoughts on the Avatar State and this deeper level of meditation?
Nova09:59 PM
Well, seems like we don't have a concrete way of measurement or scaling, and it rarely seems to be anything but more of similar things.
Chris (as Sonichu)09:59 PM
@Lainchu?
Lainchu (Anaxis)10:02 PM
Not sure exactly how comparable the concept of the Avatar State is to what you're describing. In the show, it's a state in which the Avatar has access to the powers and knowledge of all their past lives. It is shown to be both extremely powerful but also incredibly vulnerable - if the Avatar dies while in the State, then the Avatar Spirit dies, and the cycle of reincarnation ends.
Nova10:03 PM
I kind of found it funny how Psychic Detective didn't do that, despite all the other psychic trauma type stuff.
Lainchu (Anaxis)10:04 PM
When the show started, it was sort of a fight-or-flight instinct that triggered whenever Aang was in mortal danger or was emotionally distressed, and often caused him to wreak havoc in his surroundings, sometimes endangering his friends and allies. Only later was he able to gain full control of it, through mastering his chakras. (edited)
And then, he was nearly killed while in the State, locking his chakras and causing him to be unable to access it until the very end of the show, when it was accidentally unlocked again when fighting the Fire Lord.
So if it the state of meditation being described is one that can be compared to the Avatar State, I encourage caution. I find it very possible, likely even, that one's most powerful state of being is also their most vulnerable.
Of course, this is all in theory.
Nova10:07 PM
Well, more a sequence of events with only anecdotal information.
Lainchu (Anaxis)10:08 PM
I'm just going off of the comparison. Perhaps there's a more accurate term for this state of being.
[1 👍 reaction, likely from Chris]
Nova10:09 PM
Too incomplete to be a workable theory because it doesn't imply as much as can be usefully extrapolated by comparison.
Chris (as Sonichu)10:11 PM
[Replying to "I'm just going off of the comparison. Perhaps there's a more accurate term for this state of being."]
Yeah, I’d like to know the more accurate term, myself; tried to find that in a search for trivia on what influenced that for their chronicling in the show. Haven’t found the accurate term yet.
But the similarities are there, yet I would definitely not refer to myself or Chris as Avatar benders.
Nova10:12 PM
Well its got chakras and stuff, that kind of thing is famously subjective.
Chris (as Sonichu)10:14 PM
Actually, there is great validity in the chakras and all of that; it’s a shame that technology has no concrete way yet to measure the soul activity, much less, in 1218, a viable way of recording dreams and meditations in an imagery perspective as the individual who is dreaming or meditating is seeing all of this in front of or around them during the time.
Nova10:15 PM
I'm an expert on eastern medicine, it was a horrible bet that only becomes useful rarely.
If it was a science it would have more than dogma.
Like how the age is arbitrarily a factor, but I think you'd still only be 5 out of 7?
[1 ⁉️ reaction, likely from Chris]
I think that was wish fulfillment from some middle-aged mothers who really should have stuck with day drinking.
Belief or not, the average new-ager knows nothing.
MKR10:29 PM
Sometimes monks would turn themselves into mummies through meditation to protect certain areas from natural disasters like earthquakes. Obviously this isn't what we're talking about but I always thought it was interesting that they actually did this.
Nova10:31 PM
I remember those...
MKR10:31 PM
A lot of new age stuff can seem dubious, if only because they've basically made a snake oil market for the modern age. (See goop)
Nova10:31 PM
Although, still an option that some dumbass got lost in a chimney, eastern martial arts are particularly fraudulent.
Avatar the last airbender is a really cool show, Appa is the cutest X3
That being said...
Nova10:36 PM
Its a very, in-character way of problem solving.
MKR10:37 PM
I don't think its wise to trust anyone from that group of people. They're obviously trying to scam you.
Nova10:37 PM
There's also no ethical standard, so naturally, zero professionalism.
MKR10:38 PM
Exactly
Not to mention the stun gun comment
Nova10:38 PM
Kind of the lowest form of conman.
Oh hell, what the fuck even was that?
MKR10:38 PM
Dumb
That's what it was
Nova10:39 PM
Actually, let me check something real quick...
MKR10:39 PM
I don't trust anyone who treats my friends like that
Nova10:40 PM
No I mean they might actually have committed a felony, now that I think about it.
MKR10:41 PM
Really!? That's no good!?
Nova10:47 PM
Brilliant, fucking morons.
What idiot wrote these codes?
Even if furnishment isn't specifically defined in a general case, obviously it would still be a big fucking problem.
Seems to only be a felony for firearms, but this was obviously the result of someone who didn't care.
MKR10:56 PM
They wanted to get Christine in trouble by insinuating things.
Nova10:57 PM
Well that, and weening.
MKR10:57 PM
Yup
Nova10:58 PM
And probably not paying.
I still have no clue why people like Gweneth even bother, gin ain't that expensive and God knows they ain't smart enough to make more money than their normal non-talented position.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:20 PM
I am mot going to argue or entertain in that discussion at this time. Will be falling asleep soon, and in state of meditation right now.
The more important matter at this time is getting this body and I to Cwcville.
Nova11:21 PM
Argument is cheap, I think this is one of the more obvious situations of not being considered.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:22 PM
And I was mainly talking about the aspect that in recent days by our own observations and experiences, here, have proven consistent and successful in the better progression with this body’s powers and abilities.
Nova11:23 PM
That would still be in the realm of anecdotal evidence.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:23 PM
Since learning this term or “Avatar State” earlier today, it has been a thinkpiece that has proven valid with all of this.
Nova11:24 PM
You tend to have some preconceptions about things that may impair the thought process regarding.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:24 PM
Well, it’s better than having nothing, especially when at times I managed to find specific answers.
Nova11:25 PM
Actually having nothing would be a good objective basis.
But we do not have nothing, we have a lot of things.
Valid things
Nova11:26 PM
It leads to a proof in more elemental basis.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:26 PM
Okay, that’s fair
Nova11:26 PM
Well you tend to relate some of these things similarly to prophetic, how reliable is that aspect?
Chris (as Sonichu)11:27 PM
Reliable enough.
Nova11:27 PM
For what?
Chris (as Sonichu)11:27 PM
Magi-Chan verifies it.
Mewtwo verifies it.
Nova11:27 PM
That would seem to be biased by nature.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:28 PM
For the facts towards we being on the right path towards the positive and desired outcome out of all of the infinite possibilities for the Dimension Merge and all related events.
Oh, My Chris Chan!
Nova11:29 PM
Infinity is a terrible problem domain, unless you can be algorithmic.
Chess is interesting for that and explains exponential growth factors versus reliability.
Chris (as Sonichu)11:32 PM
Even tonight, I’ve consulted with the memories of every single Chris Chan Sonichu self-counterpart, and found amongst all of their respective Alice and well bodies with the similar situation to have ended up in their respective OC/FC dimensions from their “Reality” dimension, the majority of their instances were instant and sudden. Rather it be the running through a spawned portal, managing to break through their Iron Curtain with their fists, or an instantaneous teleport between dimensions.
Nova11:32 PM
Maybe I'll try something with AI before I die, who knows?
Chris (as Sonichu)11:33 PM
I just wish I was in Cwcville right freaking now with this body, and this temple.
I am feeling reasonably upset.
Nova11:34 PM
It seems to involve a lot of, personal input, man does not fly under his own power.
If I could rip steel in half, why wouldn't boat hulls be made of bones? Obviously material and physical laws have a general advantage.
If I'm wrong, explain. I'm never baseless and I can't remember the last time I was.
Its a still life, possibly dead, at least less candid.
MKR02:33 AM
Sometimes it's best to be grateful for the things we have, good friends. A place to stay, food in our bellies, wifi. One day at a time. Wanting and desperation will only lead you to self destruction, take time to reflect on what you do have and get rest with gratitude.
Nova02:35 AM
I set useless goals, but at least I'm only a certain percentage a failure for not realizing them.
MKR02:41 AM
We don't know what the future holds so for now let's relax and do our best to just make it through life day by day.
Better to plan ahead, not too far, but coasting is pretty bad.
MKR02:43 AM
Yeah
Like kicking con men to the curb before you have another money issue...
Nova02:45 AM
Oh trust me, I knew that.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
28 December 2020
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:46 PM
So now Chris is ripping from Avatar?
Good source to rip off, I guess
Who's Bella?
Nova09:48 PM
Youtuber?
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:50 PM
Bella is a Praetor, huh? One of them made that animation?
I wonder if she's the blonde one
Nova09:51 PM
Praetor is talking about the lore and trying to influence it, this is pretty disturbing.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:15 PM
One of the few times I can give a relatively direct answer to Chris's question, since I'm familiar with the referenced show for once lol
Nova10:16 PM
I've never bothered with anime, I do well enough pulling off wikis.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:27 PM
Technically not anime, it's western made
January 2021
The Watchmen's Skepticism Over Praetor Medallion Sales
16 January 2021
Summary: Nova and MKR sarcastically remark on the fact that Praetor's medallions are listed as "sold out" and speculate that they never existed in the first place. I counter this argument, stating that Praetor had definitely been selling medallions since a few users in the CWCki Server had bought them and posted pictures there.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Nova10:25 PM
Ya.
Oh look the medallions are "sold out", might have something to do with possibly never existing...
MKR10:26 PM
Imagine my fucking surprise
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:26 PM
They've been selling them, they aren't making that up
Nova10:26 PM
Has anyone actually gotten one?
MKR10:26 PM
Yeah, no one would buy something that badly made at that price
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:26 PM
We've had a couple users in the cwcki server who bought them and showed pictures of them
MKR10:27 PM
Tards...
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:27 PM
So they are definitely making money from this op
Naught10:27 PM
Nah, they asked me if I wanted a sample I said no, maybe I should ask for one
Nova10:27 PM
Really proud that they got featured on the CWCki...
Naught10:27 PM
That was odd
Nova10:27 PM
Not suspicious at all.
The Watchmen Think Chris Should Get All of Praetor's Sales Money
17 January 2021
Summary: Naught posts a number of web links to Praetor's social medias and archives of their information, then posts a rough calculation of the profits generated by the medallion sales, concluding it to be about $6,000. MKR declares that Chris should get almost all of it, and Naught agrees.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Naught01:21 PM
They popped online
[Numerous web links]
@Josh praetor is active
GiBi did some calculation, nova nigel and Josh will likely correct it (edited)
236 sales
$25 dollars each
That's a nice $6k they got there
MKR01:28 PM
Cwc better get almost all of it
Naught01:29 PM
agreed
Ridiculous
MKR's Tantrum Over The WCT
17 January 2021
Summary: MKR throws a tantrum when WCT tries to participate in a conversation in the Place. She insults him repeatedly throughout the conversation, while WCT tries to ask her why he was banned in the first place. He lists some guesses at MKR's prompting, which she agrees with and uses to sling more accusations at him. WCT tries to explain and apologize, but MKR continues to accuse him. WCT then promises he will learn from his mistakes, while MKR continues to snipe at him, then the conversation ends.
MKR's Conspiracy Theory About Praetor & The CWCki Server
17 January 2021
Summary: Nova and Naught discuss their limited options when it comes to dealing with Praetor, with Nova claiming that they were underpaying Chris. I acknowledge that it's good that he's getting some payment, and Nova brings up their influencing, to which I state my opinion that Praetor might not have been so malicious as they were naive, and that cooperating with them may be a more viable option than outright opposing them. MKR immediately accuses me of being a member of Praetor, because I sounded "defensive" of them. I restate the intentions behind my words, but MKR brings up a new conspiracy theory, that being the CWCki Server is "buying up" the medallions and that there may be a business relationship between the server and Praetor. I reiterate what I had said before (that a couple users had bought medallions), and MKR asks that I keep my eyes open for any indication of Praetor's presence in the server, to which I say that I haven't seen anything of the sort.
Later that night, members of the Watchmen join a voice chat to watch a movie, and MKR abruptly @s me to say that WCT told her that I was disappointed in her, sarcastically remarking after that I would "grow to love [her]."
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Nova06:50 PM
I don't see many options with Praetor.
Naught06:50 PM
🤔
Nova06:51 PM
Josh is kind of the nuclear option, but could at least confirm the money and tell them to stop pissing around, they seem to have stopped making videos at least.
Remember the militia video that one guy did, thinking they wanted something similar.
Anaxis (Lainchu)08:53 PM
Militia video?
And if they haven't done any weenish stuff lately, maybe they're just focusing on the business. I still think it's possible that they're not so much malicious as they are naive.
If Josh or one of us just calmly asked if they could stop with the ween stuff, their response would be a good gauge for how willing they are to be cooperative.
If we come at them with hostility right off the bat, that won't come off very well, especially if Chris is actually making money from them (plus he likes them)
If they're talked down and just continue the business while giving chris a fair share, then I see no reason we can't coexist with Praetor.
Of course, if they continue weening anyway, that's a different story, but we won't know unless we try.
MKR09:13 PM
@Lainchu Are you a part of Praetor? (edited)
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:13 PM
No...
MKR09:13 PM
You sound pretty defensive of them.
Why is that?
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:14 PM
I'm only saying that we shouldn't assume the worst of them if they haven't done anything that bad, and if chris can financially benefit from them.
MKR09:14 PM
But they have been doing bad things
And we've been at this long enough to know red flags when we see them.
More than red flags actually.
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:15 PM
Has anyone tried just asking them if they could stop with the ween stuff?
MKR09:15 PM
Lel yes
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:16 PM
Like, politely, without aggression?
MKR09:16 PM
Yes
In the beginning
That's why alternative options are being used now.
Naught09:16 PM
ive been trying to speak to them at all, and no response
MKR09:18 PM
Your server has been buying up the medallions, is it possible the cwcki server has a sort of business partnership with them?
Or that they originated from there.
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:18 PM
Lol, you're really getting conspiratorial here?
MKR09:18 PM
I'm not asking to be rude or funny.
I'm serious.
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:19 PM
I said that we had a couple of users who had bought the medallions and shared pictures of them.
MKR09:19 PM
Yes but those are the only known purchases.
So far.
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:20 PM
Nobody's been advertising for Praetor in the cwcki server
MKR09:20 PM
Their business practices are shady so...
Ok
It might still help if you could keep your eyes open for any talk about them there.
It's just a hunch but I think they're lower tier members
Again, let me make it clear, I'm not saying the cwcki server is behind this.
Anaxis (Lainchu)09:22 PM
Well, what you said really did sound like an accusation...
And I always keep my eyes open
MKR09:23 PM
What I'm hypothesizing is that they are hiding in there. The way they reacted to getting on the cwcki was pure joy so it would be stupid to think they wouldn't want to pe part of the server itself.
Get over it already.
Our dumb playtime feud isn't what this is about
But I appreciate it
As a group they act strong, but if I've learned anything from experience. Find a weak link, or any link, separate it from the others and it will squeal.
They immediately start pointing fingers at eachother.
You'll grow to love me, they all do eventually. Except cat, he likes himself more.
Asking About Censoring Names For The Journey to the Merge
20-21 January 2021
Summary: Having gathered screenshots that would comprise The Journey to the Merge, I run said screenshots by the other Watchmen, asking if they wanted their usernames and information censored. After some discussion, everyone except WCT and Peachy ask to be censored. I also ask if Praetor's information should be left in, as it would reveal that they are in the same server as the Watchmen, and Nova suggests they be left in since people would still make the connection to them based off of the context of Chris's messages.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
20 January 2021
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:17 PM
Alright, I've finished compiling a group of Chris's merge statements and conversations, and I'm gonna post them soon. I'm gonna cut out as much extraneous info as I can, but I wanted to know: who wants their information censored? And how much of it? Just icon, just name, or both, or neither? I'm going to be doing neither, myself, as I've got nothing to hide as Lainchu.
Nova10:18 PM
I guess if its at all relevant, I don't mind.
Chris ok this?
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:18 PM
Yes
He told me to "use my discretion" and that's what I did
[Replying to "I guess if its at all relevant, I don't mind."]
Ok
Other people who show up in the screencaps are @Val , @MKR , @Neko Onyx (Kat) , @ภคยﻮђՇ , @Peachy , @KND , and Praetor
Nova10:21 PM
Well, fuck Praetor.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:21 PM
Let me know what you want me to do with your respective screennames.
Nova10:21 PM
They do jack shit.
Peachy10:21
PMI don’t really care about my info 🤷♀️
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:22 PM
[Replying to "I don’t really care about my info 🤷♀️"]
Okay, you also mention living in [REDACTED] in the screencaps. Is that okay or do you want that taken out?
Peachy10:22 PM
That part should be taken out probably 🤷♀️ For safety cx
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:23 PM
Got it
Nova10:23 PM
Not really a lot, just merge stuff, so it should be easy to comb through.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:24 PM
Chris also makes mention of @ภคยﻮђՇ and @Neko Onyx (Kat) living in California
The WCT10:25 PM
Never trust Chris with personal information. lol
thankfully, that's all I told Chris and never got too specific.
Summary: The Watchmen complain about Chris's payout when they hear of the amount he allegedly received ($400 out of $6000), with the WCT initially stating that Chris deserved everything that Praetor made, then saying that there would be a "problem" if he didn't get at least half. MKR states her agreement that Chris was not getting paid nearly enough when compared to Praetor's profits.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
KND12:55 AM
good to hear that chris got paid some at least
The WCT01:00 AM
he deserves every last penny.
MKR01:00 AM
Yes, but if they got 6000, 400 is hardly enough
KND01:01 AM
whats the date on praetor's instagram post showing chris getting paid?
id hope that was only the first check.
MKR01:01 AM
Yes
The WCT01:02 AM
If he's not getting at least half of the 6000, we got a problem.
Nova01:03 AM
Their agreements work in 10,20,40 and 50% of gross after tax.
I figured about 33% off revenue is a reasonable gross, ergo, Chris is in the 10%.
Reviewing the Journey to the Merge, Opposition to Doppelganger Content, MKR Asks if We Have Met Before
21-22 January 2021
Summary: I run the censored images for the Journey to the Merge by the Watchmen again, asking them to make sure their information is censored to their liking. The content is discussed for a short while, before Nova voices his opposition to the inclusion of a section that Chris wrote about doppelgangers, believing it could inspire ween action. MKR and Naught both agree with Nova's assertion despite my arguments against it. MKR then asks if we had known each other before being in the Place together, to which I respond that the soonest we would have met was when MKR joined the CWCki Server.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
21 January 2021
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:05 PM
Here are the edited images. Everyone involved, please make sure that you are censored to your liking. I'm pretty sure I got every instance, but it still merits a double-check, just in case.
[File attachment]
[2 🤔 reactions]
It also won't be named "Watchmen's Place Merge Ramblings" when on the CWCki
@ภคยﻮђՇ @Nova @Neko Onyx (Kat) @Val @KND @Peachy
@MKR you've been cut out of the images completely
Nova10:06 PM
Why are some of the formats different?
KND10:06 PM
ty again
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:07 PM
Just the way the software made them when I censored the names
Naught10:07 PM
What article is this for?
The WCT10:07 PM
So I'm censored out too? @Lainchu
Nova10:07 PM
Ah, PNG is better for quality, I think its supposed to be loseless.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:07 PM
The ones that were just cropped were PNGs, while the ones that were censored converted to JPGs
[Replying to "So I'm censored out too? @Lainchu"]
I didn't censor you per your request, but I can if you changed your mind
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:08 PM
[Replying to "What article is this for?"]
Thinking of calling it "The Journey to the Merge" or something like that
Since that's kind of what Chris framed it as
Nova10:09 PM
The new summer blockbuster.
Naught10:09 PM
So, it's an article about the merge?
The WCT10:09 PM
I'll review the screenshots before I make a decision. @Lainchu
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:09 PM
[Replying to "So, it's an article about the merge?"]
More or less
It's a voluntary release of information, basically
I'm framing it as what "Lainchu" would chronicle it as
The WCT10:11 PM
After review:
you're good to go. (when it comes to the screenshots containing me)
[Replying to "@Lainchu what's the article about?"]
It's not gonna be an analysis, just a compilation of Chris's textwalls
It's like the Discord Q&As: they're more for recordkeeping of Chris's words
It's just gonna be a transcription of what he wrote here
In those screenshots
Like a leak, except it's happening with Chris's consent
The WCT10:15 PM
If Chris and the others are fine with it, there shouldn't be an issue.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:16 PM
Well, the Chris part is covered
The others part is happening right now
KND10:20 PM
👌🏻
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:20 PM
People involved, let me know if everything looks good or needs adjustment as soon as you are able, please. Thanks.
Nova10:21 PM
Mostly focused on Chris, still looking.
The WCT10:21 PM
[Replying to "People involved, let me know if everything looks good or needs adjustment as soon as you are able, please. Thanks."]
always.
Nova10:21 PM
Chris went a whole month without saying anything?
Oh wait, just sorted wrong.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:21 PM
No, I picked and chose what seemed like the most interesting stuff he had to say that wasn't repetitive and had to do with the merge
I also cut out any unrelated conversation, including drama with Opuscon, Ben Saint, Cirrusfire, etc
Nova10:23 PM
We're going to get an influx of doppelgangers with the nov 22, maybe?
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:24 PM
Chris gets a lot of those already, tho. Just usually centered around things other than "alternate of Chris" specifically
Like alt Sonichu/Magi-Chan/Rosechu, etc
Nova10:25 PM
Suppose anyone smart enough to have deduced from the drachenlord thing or a few prior things didn't come in, so maybe some failtrolls on Twitter, should probably remind Chris of this so he at least takes the Twitter with a grain of salt.
MKR10:51 PM
Ok.
But you didn't have to cut me out entirely? Just censor my name.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:54 PM
I didn't do it on purpose, it just ended up that way
MKR10:54 PM
Is this a "because you don't like me" kind of thing? Not that it really matters lol. Just be careful what you actually do put in.
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:54 PM
Sometimes you'd reply after a conversation was over, so your part would just be cut out
MKR10:55 PM
True
Anaxis (Lainchu)10:55 PM
You were in the screenshots, I just didn't know where everything would be cut yesterday
And no, it isn't personal
MKR10:55 PM
The reason for this is I choose to not interrupt cwc. So I tend to waits until he is done to comment unless its important to interject.
Its ok.
But the doppelganger thing should probably be left out
At least for now
Naught11:00 PM
its far to recent, these faggot fail trolls read the farms and th cwcki and take notes
but wtf do ik,
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:00 PM
[Replying to "its far to recent, these faggot fail trolls read the farms and th cwcki and take notes"]
?
Naught11:00 PM
the doppelganger content
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:01 PM
I mean, if he didn't say it here, I think he'd do it on Twitter anyway
We don't need more weens pretending to be cwc alternatives.
@Lainchu is it possible we've known eachother for longer than this server?
I feel like we have
Anaxis right?
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:08 PM
The soonest we would've met is when you joined the cwcki server
MKR11:08 PM
That's strange... maybe I'm wrong
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:10 PM
I didn't have a presence in other CWC-related circles until the Discord server came about, so we couldn't have met before then
MKR11:11 PM
Weird
22 January 2021
[REDACTED]01:32 AM
I dunno that the doppelganger cap has a higher risk of exploitation than other bits of Chris lore that are public. It's already been established by Idea Guy, who pretended to be an alternate Chris.
I don't think it's something weens will look at and immediately get inspired by. They're not exactly the most creative or resourceful bunch.
The WCT03:13 AM
I think it's been done to death at this point.
people literally just recycle shit and come up with nothing new.
It also doesn't help that Chris is mostly immune now to trolls when compared to 10 years ago. The times have changed, and some just don't know it yet.
Nova03:14 AM
Opus is still there.
Final Call on Journey to the Merge Edits
23 January 2021
Summary: I make a final call on edits to the Journey to the Merge, announcing that I would cut out the contentious screenshots. The WCT, Nova, and MKR all respond that it's fine, though MKR seems less sure.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Anaxis (Lainchu)12:16 AM
So is everyone happy with the censor job? I'm uploading tonight, so speak now or forever hold your peace...
I'll also cut out the Nov 22 screenshots
The WCT12:17 AM
I'm personally fine with it since it didn't contain anything too sensitive from me.
Nova12:22 AM
Seems fine.
MKR01:18 AM
I guess?
The Argument With Val (a.k.a. the Catalyst)
23-24 January 2021
Summary: Val and I get into an argument over the ethics behind Christubers making money off of Chris content, with him speaking very aggressively against the idea. When I take the position that what they were doing was not a crime, Val lashes out at me and calls me retarded, then renames himself "Lainchu" with the corresponding profile picture, and begins deleting any message that I send. The WCT and Nova speak their opinions for a moment, and when I finally get the chance, I call out Val on his immature behavior, but he continues to be defiant. I eventually say "We can agree to disagree" in order to defuse the argument, but MKR then gets herself involved in the conversation. Val declares that he wants me out of the server, calling me a clout chaser, and MKR agrees, bringing up her conspiracy theory about the CWCki Server mods again. When I push back on MKR's behavior, she suddenly claims that she was "testing" me, and the argument ends shortly after.
However, ten minutes later, MKR and Val both write "sweep sweep" unprompted, and Val tells me to "cry some more." The first message was in reference to something I had written to Naught in DMs, revealing that he had been sharing them with the others behind my back.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
23 January 2021
Val11:26 PM
I want rouges dox
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:26 PM
Why rogue?
Val11:27 PM
Hes a fag (edited)
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:27 PM
More specifics?
Val11:27 PM
Makes money reading other peoples work
Nova11:27 PM
Ya, but so is Sernandoe, he's a much bigger fag.
Val11:28 PM
Same class as gino,metokur,dillon and gibi
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:29 PM
So what? It's not a crime.
And I don't consider Geno to be in the same class as the other cwcki readers
Val11:30 PM
Are you fucking retarded?
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:31 PM
Did I hit a nerve?
Val11:31 PM
No you just sound retarded
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:31 PM
Mhmm
Val11:31 PM
Its fine to steal open source shit and pass it off as your own?
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:32 PM
If it's transformative, it's not stealing
It's fair use
NOTE: At this point, Val changed his name to "Lainchu" and profile picture to the Lainchu art, and started deleting any new message I sent.
The WCT11:32 PM
My opinion of Geno is mixed, I think his work is of "good" quality. However, my problem with the series is that it creates a new generation of Fail Trolls who don't know shit about Chris in any shape or form.
I mean, we've seen what happened with Sachumo, Knudsen, and PewDiePie making vids.
Nova11:33 PM
That's the nature of mainstream content.
If anything, we're more than past the worst of it by a considerable margin.
Has Rouge done Chris stuff in the past?
The WCT11:34 PM
[Replying to "That's the nature of mainstream content."]
Chris should never be made mainstream in any capacity whatsoever.
Val11:36 PM
[Replying to "Has Rouge done Chris stuff in the past?"]
Its all he does
Makes at least 500 bucks a stream
Im the new lainchu anything posted by @Lainchu is fake and gay from now on
Naught11:39 PM
I hate youtubers
The WCT11:40 PM
[Replying to "I hate youtubers"]
uh, hi. lol
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:41 PM
Seriously @Val ?
Nova11:41 PM
It always do be.
Val11:42 PM
[Replying to "Seriously @Val ?"]
Stop @ yourself
It wont work
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:43 PM
So this is how you react when someone disagrees with your opinion
Says a lot about your character
Val11:43 PM
[Replying to "So this is how you react when someone disagrees with your opinion"]
What?
Just think its shitty people making money off open source information
Anaxis (Lainchu)11:46 PM
Alright, that's all you had to say
MKR11:46 PM
He is retarded, but it's a fact I've come to accept.
Im sure your server will cuddle you and make you feel gud[footnote 5]
February 2021
The Watchmen Freak Out Over the Taser Situation
5 February 2021
Summary: The Watchmen get into a panicked discussion about Caden and Chris going somewhere and using a taser/stun gun on some crystals. Nova and MKR attempt to inform Null (who is in the server), but he is streaming at that moment. Later on, I ask for clarification about Praetor's plans, then state that Praetor would be foolish to hurt Chris. Val states that he is content to let Praetor do so as nothing could be done about it, while the WCT expresses the belief that Praetor would be "gone soon."
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Nova01:21 PM
@ภคยﻮђՇ Trip?
Naught01:23 PM
Yeah, caden is taking cwc on a trip with the stun gun to put against electricity so cwc can zap 2 the extreme or something suspicious
With crystals
Nova01:23 PM
Dear fucking Christ...
MKR01:23 PM
They're ganna hurt him...
Nova01:23 PM
@Josh Paedo LLC is being an active threat to life and limb again...
Naught01:24 PM
Hes streaming
Nova01:24 PM
Ah, didn't know.
MKR01:24 PM
As soon as hes done he should be made aware
Naught01:24 PM
[Defunct YouTube link to "February 5th, 2021 - Mad at the Internet" by Mad at the Internet]
Indeed,
Naught01:34 PM
Angry retard noises..
MKR01:37 PM
Reeeeeeeeee
Naught01:37 PM
Agreed
Nova01:38 PM
Did he set a time yet?
Naught01:38 PM
Idk, I just heard about this fail fuckery
Nova01:38 PM
The Praedovan ain't just coming into the driveway, so thank fuck for that. (edited)
Naught01:49 PM
ok, i let @Josh know, people see me as a kid or something and they don't listen I kinda hate it
[Replying to "Yeah, caden is taking cwc on a trip with the stun gun to put against electricity so cwc can zap 2 the extreme or something suspicious"]
Chris told you this?
Naught03:27 PM
Correct
Nova03:27 PM
JFC.
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:27 PM
Oof
Stun gun part too?
MKR03:28 PM
Yes
Nova03:29 PM
I wish we had a timeline, ask Chris maybe?
Naught03:30 PM
Yessir pretty dodgy
Val03:31 PM
sigh
Naught03:31 PM
¯\(ツ)\/¯
Anaxis (Lainchu)03:32 PM
Praetor would have to be absolute fools to hurt the person that's providing them their source of profit
Val03:32 PM
yep let em do it
its retarded but what the fuck can you do
The WCT03:53 PM
Praetor will be gone soon. Just wait and watch.
Praetor and the Taser
8 February 2021
Summary: Caden comes into the general chat of the Place and talks to the Watchmen about the taser plan, insisting that they will act with safety in mind and that this was entirely Chris's idea. Nova pushes back against this, but Chris comes into the chat and confirms the truth. Nova then begins alternating between arguing with Chris and attacking Caden, while Caden maintains his innocence and eventually begins teasing Nova. At the end of the conversation, I ask Chris if I could chronicle it, and he says yes.
Summary: In preparation for the upcoming call with Praetor, the Watchmen discuss the group behind the scenes, with Nova calling them "really bad liars" and "basic bitch sociopaths." KND insists that everyone use VPNs when speaking to Praetor as they could be snatching IPs, to which I state that he might be overestimating Praetor and Nova affirms that Discord runs VoIP through their own servers. Despite this, KND gets into a very paranoid discussion about the possibility of Discord employees giving user information away to Praetor for some reason, despite the arguments of Nova and myself against this idea.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
The WCT12:17 PM
Is Chris gonna be in this call?
Cause I hope so.
Nova12:18 PM
Maybe, want me to ask?
The WCT12:18 PM
Sure.
KND12:48 PM
my bants are silent but deadly
Nova12:50 PM
I'd have preferred them not having an easy out.
KND12:51 PM
i wasn't even speaking.
don't know how they thought i was stepping on your toes.
Nova12:51 PM
Bingo.
They're really bad liars.
KND12:51 PM
mhm
Nova12:52 PM
They're going to deflect on literally anybody.
They already deflected it on Chris, but that worked because Chris insisted it was his idea.
Basic bitch sociopaths.
KND12:52 PM
that was my extrapolation as well.
Klop12:52 PM
trying to create infighting i assume
Nova12:54 PM
What a bunch of fucking morons.
The WCT12:57 PM
Got any early predictions?
Nova12:57 PM
For the call?
The WCT12:57 PM
Yup
KND12:58 PM
use vpns if you are going to voice chat with praetor
Nova12:58 PM
They won't offer any info if asked, and will try to deflect smugness onto me even if someone else asks a question.
KND12:58 PM
have a bad feeling
praetor is obviously going to record the call
but they might also be snatching voip ips
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:00 PM
I think you may be overestimating them, although I guess caution is better than carelessness
Nova01:04 PM
Discord runs the VoIP through their own servers.
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:05 PM
Right, I was gonna say, as long as you don't click any suspicious links if they post them, you should be fine
Nova01:11 PM
Fuck these losers.
Val01:13 PM
agreed
KND01:18 PM
discord admins have given people info before
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:19 PM
But we're the admins of this server...
And that being said, we don't have each others' information just by virtue of being admins
KND01:20 PM
i meant discord employees
Nova01:21 PM
Its a bad look for them though.
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:21 PM
Uh...you really think Discord employees would just give away info of users to another user who asks for it?
Praetor aren't the FBI lol
Nova01:21 PM
"We were trying to taze an autistic man and someone said some mean things about us" - PaedoVan LLC
KND01:23 PM
i was once a satellite analyst on a conspiracy board.
found a secret base in colorado.
one of the admins of that contacted me on u2u (the private message system)
told me "if i didn't slow down" him or someone else would come to my house and do something to me. (edited)
you got weird fucks who work at these internet companies.
Nova01:24 PM
Weird, yes. But I only buy a certain level of paranoia.
KND01:24 PM
discord is known for its weens
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:24 PM
Praetor aren't some evil masterminds, they're just some kids who are trying to make a quick buck off of Chris while simultaneously enabling some of his delusions.
Val01:25 PM
[Replying to "Praetor aren't some evil masterminds, they're just some kids who are trying to make a quick buck off of Chris while simultaneously enabling some of his delusions."]
agreed, fuck them
KND01:25 PM
all it takes is one homosexual discord admin to be working on the inside
Anaxis (Lainchu)01:25 PM
I don't think their intentions are exactly noble but they don't seem the type to go to that length for basically no tangible benefit
KND01:25 PM
you should be using a vpn anyway
The Watchmen Try to Antagonize Praetor
8 February 2021
Summary: Before the call, the Watchmen attempt to antagonize Praetor some more, with Val aggressively insulting Caden and Caden making lighthearted sarcastic responses. Naught and MKR join in, and Caden continues making light of the situation despite their insults towards him. Chris eventually joins the conversation, and Val directs anger towards him instead, causing Chris to express annoyance at the Watchmen's behavior. After the Taser Discussion begins, occasional messages are sent in the general chat reacting to various statements said over voice chat, including Caden making a sarcastic apology towards MKR for an insignificant disagreement. After the call ends, Chris writes a textwall declaring his disappointment over how things went, and how the aggressive "banter" affected him. KND tries to explain things diplomatically, and ask Praetor for assurances that Chris won't be hurt, but they do not respond.
In the second layer, there is a brief lead-up to the call before posting text reactions to it, with WCT stating that Praetor are "going to regret this." I warn him not to make threats he can't keep, and MKR tells me to go fuck myself. The reactions continue until the call ends.
We're doing what we do because of profit, goofball. It makes money. If it happens to piss off MKR along the way, it's a bonus.
We're sorry that the rest y'all are suspicious. We don't intend to do much to change that, as it doesn't sound like we'd get cash out of it. We're also guessing y'all won't be changing your minds anytime soon.
Naught07:30 PM
Buff mlp
Praetor (Caden)07:31 PM
Feel free to message us with any concerns though! Except for @MKR . She hurt our feelings.
We may never recover.
Naught07:32 PM
Ok, I've been kind and not passive aggressive as you've been to me, but ok, I'm fine with being a dick if need be
Val07:33 PM
[Replying to "Feel free to message us with any concerns though! Except for @MKR . She hurt our feelings."]
I sincerleyleye apologize for the disconnect and disdain for our differing views on Twizzlers. However, your agreement on the putrid subject of Twizzler Milk Straws I believe has bonded us. May we be joined forever as Twizzler friends, and no longer enemies. I won't be a cunt. I love you. 😢
NOTE: The Taser Discussion was over by this point.
Chris (as Sonichu)09:08 PM
From my end, I wish to state on behalf of Christine, this brain and how it interprets or misinterprets aggressive and cruel dialogue and its main context. Over the years, at least up to 2011, Robertchu had and would often pick a spar with her in verbal arguments. For the majority of the time, obviously, and goes in sync with the loud verbal abuse that went on between both of her parents, and (especially) with the Greene County school system back in the hay day of her fourth grade time. Stack on the Roache woman who locked her in a room with toys and all by her lonesome. When this brain hears constant arguing within a group of people, it picks up on the aggressive aspects, and add the empathy of feeling the anger from the ends of all shouters and arguing individuals about, it gets overwhelming to say the least. “Oh, grow up, Chris” is what I would tell her as well, and she has somewhat improved in sparring back over the years, but the flaw still and can occur when feeling fatigued.
She has been made aware in various media that there exists the argument context where those involved are arguing and shouting insults for the sake of arguing and shouting insults or venting. As well as the “excuse” of bullies picking on those younger and considered weaker than them to toughen them up. But, obviously, that does no one any favours either. The same applies to all online haters and bad trolling types.
This body and I have had a long day from waking up at about 9:00 am today; had the drive and focused outing with successful results. Still, feeling need to be on with the voice chat, despite the fatigue, I got on Discord tonight and was face-slammed with the very aggressive words. Obviously, considering what I have just told you all, this brain interpreted that as violent and war-like in context. It was not interpreted as comical banter.
It is obvious that there was no way this could have been avoided or altered towards the banter interpretation, and this brain still has, and certainly will, get further training and education with Robertchu later on, so it can have an easier time to not initially take the words personally and interpret the actual context better.
That is all I can think of at the moment to share this with you all. Thanks for listening.
everyone is just on edge cause when you zap this rock it could be disappointing.
and since we don't know praetor we'd hope that it wouldn't be made into a public spectacle.
obviously there is a very low chance of the zapper working.
Nova09:16 PM
Why its preferential to not follow through on people who try to use character assassination.
KND09:19 PM
its not a bad idea to sell rocks that have been electrified though.
as long as you associate with weird people they're going to keep targeting you chris.
i could see praetor staying our friend, i could also see him acting demented if allowed to act that way.
so please let us be weary for your sake and ours.
and praetor please understand our distrust.
@Praetor what type of assurance will you give, that christine wont be mocked when this experiment is a failure? do you currently have intentions to release a video documenting christine's experiments? (edited)
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
The WCT07:10 PM
will Praetor keep their word and start a call with us?
NOTE: The Taser Discussion was over by this point.
KND09:08 PM
milk twizzlers wow
at least twizzlers have a function now
Chris Calls The Watchmen Out
13 February 2021
Summary: Chris calls the Watchmen out on their recent behavior, particularly the aggression displayed during the call with Praetor, and on leaking details without his approval. Nova and MKR decide to immediately attack Praetor more, with MKR claiming that she was "bullied" and deflecting blame onto Caden. She then apologizes to Chris and states that she will stop posting about them (a claim that lasts less than three weeks). A disappointed Chris states that he will check in later.
Summary: KND and Nova have an argument about how to deal with Praetor, with Nova convinced that they are responsible for fraud of some kind. The two of them try to think of ways to expose Praetor, and I point out that Chris wouldn't care about any of it as long as they continue playing along with his delusions. MKR then tries to run me off the conversation, and KND, Nova, and WCT continue talking about their options.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
Let them waste some money, it would be admitting guilt.
Do what you want.
KND01:33 AM
chris updated his comment
Nova01:36 AM
The Etsy should be reviewed by staff.
KND01:36 AM
i don't think etsy will review it
Nova01:36 AM
I doubt the 300.
KND01:37 AM
etsy will protect their business foremost
Nova01:37 AM
Given it would look like money laundering on their part...
Naught Leaves the Place and Nova Takes Ownership
13 February 2021
Summary: Naught abruptly leaves the Place, with ownership transferring to Nova. The WCT half-heartedly congratulates him, and MKR speculates that Naught left due to what Chris had said to the group. She immediately antagonizes me, stating that I should also leave. MKR declares herself and Nova to be the new leaders, and MKR asks me what my thoughts are on Praetor (who they both refer to as "Paedovan"). I express my opinion that they're a problem, and that the Watchmen's current methods of dealing with them are ineffective. MKR asks how I would deal with them, and I state that I would leave them be for now so that the tide of public opinion would turn against them naturally. Nova dismisses my idea, and Peachy chimes in to affirm her commitment to helping when needed, stating that she has info on Praetor's members that could be used if necessary. KND speculates that Chris only likes Praetor because Caden lives in Virginia, and was using him as a way to meet girls.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
he maybe slow in the mind, but he's our friend. And we should never abandon our friend.
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:05 AM
[Replying to "@Lainchu how do you feel about paedovan?"]
What, now you want my opinion?
MKR04:05 AM
Don't be a cunt about it. I was asking your opinion, yes.
Nova04:06 AM
It would be nice to know where your opinions lie.
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:06 AM
Well they're a problem obviously, but I don't know if our current methods of dealing with them have been super effective thus far
MKR04:07 AM
How would you deal with them?
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:08 AM
I'd leave them be for now. Let Vaughn keep leaking information, let public opinion turn against them. That way, when they inevitably fall, Chris hopefully won't blame us for being so aggressive towards them.
Nova04:09 AM
Chris generally doesn't operate like that, we need something.
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:09 AM
All I know is that the current method of dealing with Praetor is only emboldening them and turning Chris against us
Nova04:10 AM
Sooner is better, God knows they might try and get Chris as an "investor" when their ponzi scheme goes tits up.
Paedovan was already as emboldened as they could be when they decided to be the next Idea Guys.
The WCT04:12 AM
My question is: Will we need Josh to help us out or nah? (edited)
MKR04:12 AM
He doesn't seem all that interested rn
Probably busy with irl stuff
The WCT04:12 AM
he's too busy trying to keep the Farms lights on.
Peachy04:13 AM
[Replying to "Obviously, I'd just like to know where everyone stands."]
I don’t want to distract from this conversation but I just wanted to say where I stand. I’ve been a little absent lately but I’m still dedicated to helping when I’m needed. I want to protect Cwc
[Replying to "I don’t want to distract from this conversation but I just wanted to say where I stand. I’ve been a little absent lately but I’m still dedicated to helping when I’m needed. I want to protect Cwc"]
Regarding Praetor, options?
Peachy04:15 AM
I am really not sure what’s best. All I know is that I have info on them if things go really poorly and if it is needed (edited)
The WCT04:15 AM
I'd say its going down the shitter right now. lol
MKR04:16 AM
Yup
Nova04:16 AM
Sometimes that's all we need, I've been looking far too legit for them.
Peachy04:17 AM
Just @ me or dm me if you want the info 😰
KND04:37 AM
does chris even give a shit if people start dumping on praetor?
he does when we do it
but, public opinion of praetor is already pretty low
and chris doesn't seem to be phased.
Nova04:38 AM
Usual.
Anaxis (Lainchu)04:38 AM
I think it's less about what outsiders think and more about what we think
Because Chris wants all of us to be friends
Nova04:39 AM
Praetor will fuck Chris over.
KND04:40 AM
only guessing but i think chris only likes praetor cause caden is in virginia.
ive been saying it this entire time, its part of chris's love quest
get friends to meet girls
The WCT04:41 AM
Its all a C.O.P.E.
Nova04:41 AM
Part of it.
Almost all of it.
The Watchmen Plot to Dismantle Praetor
13 February 2021
Summary: KND begins spitballing ideas for how to deal with Praetor, first proposing the Watchmen get Chris a friend in Virginia, then suggesting they get Chris to become afraid of COVID-19. Nova shoots these ideas down. KND, Nova, and WCT briefly discuss whether or not they find Anni Renee attractive, and KND then puts forth the idea of starting a rift in the ranks, and "[using] the females for info." Nova asks WCT to make a fake Instagram to DM the Praetor girls, but Peachy cuts in to say that she had tried messaging Anni on Instagram and TikTok with multiple accounts, and had no luck. WCT and Peachy speculate that Anni might respond more to men.
KND theorizes that Praetor had invited Chris to a separate Discord server, which Peachy does not believe but WCT does. Peachy proposes DMing Owen since she's had luck with that in the past, and both KND and MKR approve. KND then suggests that, if Caden does not have a separate Discord server, they ban him from the Place to force him to create one, and then the Watchmen get ahold of it and have access to all of Caden's friends.
#findings (Second Layer)
NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this conversation.
KND04:41 AM
what if we got chris a friend in virginia?
The WCT04:42 AM
[Replying to "get friends to meet girls"]
yup.
KND04:42 AM
id turn chris into a pothead, hes probably not that bad to hang out with.
wrong side of the states though
id take chris to bars
oh but barb might get second hand covid.
The WCT04:43 AM
oh no! he's killing Grandma!
KND04:43 AM
what if we get chris to become afraid of covid...
then he might not fuck about with these punk asses
The WCT04:43 AM
hmmmm, interesting.
Nova04:43 AM
Chris is very literal, and they've already got a hand in the lore.
↑Both of these accounts appear to now be defunct or deleted.
↑This link is apparently a subdomain of Kiwi Farms, as currently it leads to a message from Cloudflare stating that the page has been blocked along with the rest of KF.
↑For context, in my DMs with Naught, after he dismissed my concerns about Val and MKR's behavior in this conversation, I mentioned that I could sweep the incident under the rug this time, but that everyone has their limits. Naught apparently shared our DMs with Val and MKR behind my back, considering their unprompted messages reading "sweep sweep" that began ten minutes after the conversation had already ended.
