Several Watchmen members and Chris discussed in The Place about ProjectSNT (aka Courtney) and Opuscon789 (aka somethingrandom987).
Some chats listed were released as part of the 2020 Discord leaks.
Server members present in the chats below are: Chris (@Sonichu982), Anaxis (@Lainchu), AquaDiamond8 (@Aqua), Kyle (@Nova), Naught (@ภคยﻮђՇ), MKRNightVee (@MKR), and at least one user who had deleted their Discord account by the time of the logs being saved.
Apologising to SNT for Redesign Rage
14 December 2019 (leaked as part of the 2020 Discord leaks)
| Hey, everyone. Firstly, the Missions and Quests are pretty much what one would experience from the mundane to the extraordinary and unbelievable in a typical D&D game, or in most RPG or JRPG video games as well.
Second, I am feeling in a sitch.
As all of you are aware, I had found and solved the problem in CS-89 and can look at all of the redesigns of the Chaotic Combo from there with no problem. Of which to solve the theft of magic items from there by the Rokat Empire, I did have help from and with SNT, herself (who was fatefully portaled into the dimension for the similar lead-up, and the same goals as I in resolving this Dimensional-Affecting problem.
Back onto the problem at hand now: recall the email I had sent to Courtney (@projectsnt) in response to the video, and how impulsive and harsh I was in its contents, Friday, a week ago.
In more recent days, with things having cooled down on that, and the impulsive tweets I typed, I've noticed Courtney not directly acknowledging me, and she has not responded to my email, either.
Plus, recent SNT and Me art, she could have retweeted, but she did not.
I sense that she may be feeling most distraught and upset over what I did.
I directly apologized in an email yesterday. And I made a public apology on Twitter as well.
I know she's had the chance to read the apology, because she had just retweeted a couple more SNT Fan arts from others.
I wish to confirm this feeling she may have and do what I can to make it right with her.
I have been made aware she has a Discord account and server (with access only to her Patreon Patrons). I would jump on that, but from my experiences between Doopie Doover and my brother, Cole: I've learned I can be easily denied and refunded my pledge. And I do not want to come off as even more pushy or similar.
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Asking Others to Contact SNT
14 December 2019
Immediately following from the above conversation.
Chris
| @Aqua, or anyone else on here, can I get some help on learning what Courtney has been feeling, and/or typing about me in response to everything.
For the latter, I am trying to wait it out and let things progress, but I am feeling tense.
Thank You all.
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AquaDiamond8
| I could ask her, not sure she would respond to me, maybe she just doesnt want to respond. Honestly i know the feeling thinking someone might dislike you.
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Deleted User
| Yeah Chris if you want us to ask for you we have no problem with that.
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Chris
| Yes, please. Thank you.
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AquaDiamond8
| I messaged her a while ago, but nothing, just have to wait and see
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[Two hours later]
Kyle
| Trying to find out why this tape recorder isn't working
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Kyle
| @Sonichu982 What kind of info would you want anyway?
Its an absolutely obscure unit, can't find much info on the recorder.
Wasn't designed for higher fidelity audio, maybe thats the issue?
Or the head is broken?
Can't think of why it wouldn't play.
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[Four hours after Chris's previous message]
Chris
| I wish to confirm her having read the email(s) and tweets of mine, and how is she feeling now about me in the regard of the recent events.
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Kyle
| Might just want to keep a distance on things, seems like the type to kind of meander from creation to creation.
Only seen a bit of their stuff based on yours though, and the coldsteel one.
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AquaDiamond8
| Ive recieved no messages, but im not going to push her to answer cause thats not right
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More Seething Towards SNT
19 December 2019
Chris
| Hey, @everyone. I’ve been mostly offline for the while now. Waring Down a sinus infection now. What is the current status on y’all’s part? Also, has Courtney responded to any of you all?
She has responded in a comment to someone else on Twitter.
I’m feeling mildly ticked.
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Kyle
| I can tell you not to use a neti pot.
If she wants to be left alone, theres nothing that can be done.
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AquaDiamond8
| I havent gotten any messages, maybe it would be best to just leave her be, the constant messaging might annoy her and get bad
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Kyle
| I'm unsure what they could even offer.
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Chris
| I concur. I don’t want to personally come off as annoying, either. Although, I wonder how the Bad Trolls have been messaging her lately?
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AquaDiamond8
| Theres no proof anyone has, maybe she just wishes to be left alone, and should respect that
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Discussing Opuscon789 and ProjectSNT
30 November 2020 - 3 December 2020
Chris complains over the fanfic SNT Vs Sonichu by Opuscon789, thus touching off an extended discussion taking place over the next few days. During the talks, Chris mentions that Opuscon has blocked his Wattpad account. Instead of walking away, Chris chose to evade the block by creating a sock account in order to continue reading SNT Vs Sonichu, despite hating the direction of the story. Chris further describes his anger at Opuscon for the story - operating under his delusion that fictional works are reality, Chris accuses Opuscon of various crimes against humanity for events depicted in SNT Vs Sonichu. Later, Chris draws his own version of events for SNT Vs Sonichu in an attempt to manipulate Opuscon into including the lore within his story.
The conversation also shifts towards ProjectSNT. Naught, Kyle, and MKRNightVee make hostile remarks about her. In particular, MKRNightVee attempts to persuade Chris he should adopt SNT (the OC of ProjectSNT).
30 November 2020
Chris (as Sonichu)
| Hey, y’all. Feeling here and there again.
I finished reading SNT Vs Sonichu 2, and read the presently available prologue and first chapter of SNT Vs Sonichu 3. And as you all may or not have noticed with my recent Tweet, I added my two bolts with a supplement story on that ebook site for between 2 and 3.
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MKRNightVee
| I read them too, though I think your reaction is just going to make them write more because they got attention for their bad actions.
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| That being said they are jerks and their fanfiction sucks.
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1 December 2020
[The following day]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| [In response to MKRNightVee's "I read them too, though I think your reaction is just going to make them write more because they got attention for their bad actions." remark]
Yeah. I get that; it’s nothing new with us.
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Kyle
| @Sonichu982 I mean, fool me once, and how the rest of that goes, there's probably a newer adage...
I'd be overselling it if I thought there was any conceivable non-zero chance at a positive outcome from that.
But I'd be interested in knowing exactly the thought process on that one.
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2 December 2020
[Several hours after Kyle's above comment, at 2:31 am on 2 December 2020]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| Ah. While there is the possibility of scaring Opus into not writing anymore (which is very unlikely), he is actually encouraged to continue writing as he will (especially since he stuck SNT, Elise, Saki and her band, and others on that very remote island in his chronicling, as well as having instigated the wrath of one of my self-counterparts, the Sonichu Prime, of N-641. Regardless of how he continues his chronicling and pathway, with or without the insightful supplement I’m providing at this time, it’s gonna hit him back in heavy karma levels very soon. From what I ended up typing up on that supplemental chapter, I did notice that it did intimidate him, to say the least, as he ended up blocking our account on Wattpad, leaving me unable to continue reading his works on that account. I created a second account with the gmail; the first one was linked with Chris’ Facebook.
So, while I was serious, and regardless of the showy disguise in his emotional response, he got his ass bit. LOL.
That’s what he gets for such a massive disruption of a Cwcville in another dimension, and especially for killing their Zelina and Sandy Rosechus horrifically; that really pissed us off. One thing to make a Pokémon faint from fatigue, but gun to the head and a vertical slice with gory results crossed a major line. And that was on top of him constantly calling Chris fat, super dumb and lazy, and the almost rape scene with Courtney that Chris was written into doing.
Regardless of that dimension’s Chris and Magi-Chan getting what they deserved from going beyond the initial merging of their two dimensions (which is still the case in N-641), now we all have to deal with a massively corrupt Sonichu Prime that is putting C-197 and 1218 at major risk.
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Kyle
| Sounds a bit, vindictive.
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| There's a contradiction
Vengence is a poor idea.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Truth is not pretty some of the time, Kyle. Count the blessing when the truth is pretty from your perspective.
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Kyle
| That's not really an answer.
Nothing good comes of this kind of idea of vengeance.
The contradiction being that "there is the possibility of scaring Opus into not writing anymore (which is very unlikely)" and " it’s gonna hit him back in heavy karma levels very soon."
It just looks petty.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes Kyle's "Vengence is a poor idea." remark]
Look, I agree on vengeance being a bad idea, and you are right on the contradiction I typed up.
We know vengeance is wrong, but we are talking about a Hater type of troll that committed murder upon our own species in another dimension, and even to go so far as to completely two major cities out of that dimension in the process (Cwcville and Charlottesville).
I can compare what Opuscon did along with what IdeaGuy did to us in that lost timeline. IdeaGuy constantly changed us over and over again for the worst until when our Christine finally realized she had dominance over anything he could do (not to mention his embezzling of her). Opuscon committed murders, defaced an Earth greatly, and tried to merged ALL dimensions instead of just the two as it initially should have been. As heroes that have helped as best as we could throughout not only our own Universe in C-197, but also multidimensionally, and Opuscon has done a massive amount of wrong.
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Naught
| I know it's easy to focus on what people have messed up, yet dwelling on it often doesn't help...
It helps to focus on what area's one can help in or try to lessen the damage
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| As heroes of our own dimension set, which is now in further danger by his hand, it is our priority to make sure he understands what he did was really bad and wrong, and to see karma and justice served unto him, and bonus make an example out of a Hater in this dimension.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| You’re right, Bis.
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Naught
| [quotes Chris's "As heroes of our own dimension set, which is now in further danger by his hand, it is our priority to make sure he understands what he did was really bad and wrong, and to see karma and justice served unto him, and bonus make an example out of a Hater in this dimension." remark]
@Sonichu982 i can dm him, so it doesn't become a public spectacle
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I appreciate that, but we’ve already crossed that line when I got carried away while typing up that SNT Vs Sonichu 2.5 Supplemental, and when I wrote that tweet set with the rants against him and other haters’ misinterpretations of us remaining in constant.
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Kyle
| There's some people I'm more than happy to staple their ass to the ceiling, this does suck, but I don't think it compares to Idea Guys.
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Naught
| True, there's no need to prolong it though.
Let us know how we can help
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Kyle
| I just think anything is questionable, especially seething over it this long.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Magi-Chan is able to tell you both how y’all can help better than I can.
And at this point anything I say can be marked as contradictory in regards of Opuscon. As on the one hand, he needs to complete writing SNT Vs Sonichu 3 in the remainder of this timeline, and on the other hand I did state facts that could wreck his creativity in irony. Yet we know in this dimension and timeline set, Opuscon is rather dead set on his writing and his other passions, and he also knows better than to let others rain on their own parade (so to speak). It is typical of a bad or hater type of individual. (edited)
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Naught
| The whole story is based on subversion, they seem to be a contrarian.
This would be ok in a different story, yet Sonichu is a classic tale where subversion isn't called for
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Kyle
| I mean, most important, can this be ignored? From a personal perspective.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes Naught's "This would be ok in a different story, yet Sonichu is a classic tale where subversion isn't called for" remark]
Very much true, yet such intent of those wanting to overthrow and hate on us remains a constant. (edited)
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Kyle
| I did suggest the b-team stories just as smaller work items that give more breadth.
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Naught
| You're the authority when it comes to lore, further acknowledging them only validates their nonsense
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes Kyle's "I mean, most important, can this be ignored? From a personal perspective." remark]
Oh, sure, Kyle. Let’s ignore this and Let the Sonichu Prime of the lost Cwcville and former Charlottesville of N-641 cause revenge and utter dimensional chaos upon SNT, others, me and our Chris, and everyone else in 1218 and C-197, I said sarcastically.
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Kyle
| I mean, does this indicate a level of obsession that would poorly impact our ability to be rational.
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Naught
| Ok, so what if there were two sets of lore; one for fan timelines and one for the prime happenings?
Like an A and B story except and A and B world?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| That is why we have N-641 for the haters. There is another few or so for the remaining fans whose events would have caused a major stir in C-197.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| It’s already existent.
BUT
Opuscon is targeting both of our dimensions, here.
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Naught
| Is there anyway we can mitigate the damage?
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Kyle
| Well, obviously THEY want to say they're significant.
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Naught
| [posts an image of Sonichu in a Santa hat]
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| We are and have been working on our own countermeasures now and in the past. This one of the major massive events that the psychics have foreseen before, in addition to and leading up to Godzilla-sized Jakoba Vs Chris Chan.
Yes, I saw that, it is cute.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| No. Jakoba and Jake are two separate entities.
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Kyle
| Given how badly written Captain Rape-Potato's lore is, if these things are self correcting, well, they're impossible.
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Naught
| So, you gonna take care of this like you did in the original issues of Sonichu?
Teach them a lesson saw style
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes Kyle's "Given how badly written Captain Rape-Potato's lore is, if these things are self correcting, well, they're impossible." remark]
For the latter, yes, But these are the forces that continue on and repercussions are being counted.
Saw style?
Oh, great
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Kyle
| A species that dumb would never get to space.
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Naught
| Put them in a moral conundrum
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| You take that ONE time that Chris decided to take a liberty in error and you mislabel our entire thing as such?
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Kyle
| [quotes Naught's "Put them in a moral conundrum" remark]
You'd need a really good example.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Thanks. Thanks, Bis.
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Naught
| No, the morality part
Not the traps
I'm not certain what they want besides to make a name from subverting Sonichu
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Yeah, dragging us worse.
Yeah, I get it, the morals and values.
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Kyle
| Generally this only came about from the SNT stuff as a whole.
Even if John's morality is really flawed.
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Naught
| Snt and co. Have been angling to rustle some jimmies this entire time
Very transparent
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Don’t confuse SNT with Courtney.
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Naught
| They deliver messages on their behalf
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Kyle
| Why not, she's clearly okay with this.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| SNT has been existent as Special as she is in C-197, and she is one of the good ones.
Courtney, on the other hand, is a creator in this dimension.
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Naught
| She's letting other's do the dirty work of angering you, i don't consider her to be a good one
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Courtney, I would partly agree.
She has enabled others
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Kyle
| And the whole, paid for non-friendship barely concealing open disdain thing.
This was clearly purposeful.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I get it.
Look
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Naught
| Random789 is on the farms, would you like me to relay a message?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I have two doctors appointments this afternoon (Endochronologist and McGovern; checkups); I have a long day ahead of me.
Let me think on that and get back to you.
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Naught
| Ok, hope your appointments go well and you don't have to wait long
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Naught
| We're always happy to help in any way we can
B.hug @Sonichu982
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Bongo BOT
| hug #3
@ภคยﻮђՇ hugs @Sonichu982
[Bongo BOT posts an image of Pikachu]
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Kyle
| A lot more feasible to do no wrong.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I sometimes miss the days when I was a Pikachu, but I have no regrets in becoming a Sonichu and everything I have experienced since that fateful day.
Aside from that
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Kyle
| That's life, time is linear.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| There is something we can do: SNT is one that can become a symbol for right in a world with such bad and Hater types of individuals. Courtney should be directly aware of this aspect of her OC by now.
There is a very good ending possible for SNT Vs Sonichu 3, but other events need to play out as well.
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Kyle
| If she did it, which she did, she is and doesn't care.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| She can be encouraged to care of her own will.
I’m still pondering and checking the possibilities and visions and all that.
Magi-Chan continues to be our better guide, here.
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Kyle
| History says "encouraged to care" is a very dangerous ideal.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I’ll have some better thoughts and ideas later today.
I have to go now.
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MKRNightVee
| You can't force people to be something they aren't. I suggest maybe that you adopt the oc and use her for good.
Either that or ignore courtney altogether.
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Kyle
| Hmm, interesting idea if you've got the aptitude to do it better.
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MKRNightVee
| I think Christine and her family could adopt Snt of and together maybe use her image in comics or stories to spread good will and cheer. That's what I believe.
[posts an emote]
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Kyle
| Course that means this might never end.
And all they want is attention so they think they can be relevant when being fucking idiots.
So...
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MKRNightVee
| It's up to cwc
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes MKRNightVee's "I think Christine and her family could adopt Snt of and together maybe use her image in comics or stories to spread good will and cheer. That's what I believe." remark]
Yes and no, because SNT is Courtney’s primary OC, aside from her self-counterpart cat eared fur sona. And then after that is her personal sassy Sylveon. It would not be so simple to adopt SNT at this time.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Not to mention Courtney has shown a major scar when she read of N-641’s Chris Chan having that major blush attack in response to SNT’s special aura. She shouted “Stop It!” about eleven times in response to that.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Empathize here, Kyle: your main OC and BFF attracts the major attention and affection of someone who is super cringe and off-putting to the point of making them blush. Wouldn’t you want to take offense of how the cringe person reacted? (edited)
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Kyle
| Courtney, I don't really take much meaning of what someone who fucked up that much says.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| The point is if Courtney was that objected about Chris (regardless of origin dimension) getting close to SNT, she would be highly unlikely to let her be adopted by our Chris Chan.
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Kyle
| True, but that would favor either extreme, cutting off or just going for it anyway, I say the former is smarter.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Try elaborating that to Courtney.
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Kyle
| I mean your decision.
I've got no interest in talking to someone like that.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| You scared of her sass?
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Kyle
| No, she's a moron and seems generally unpleasant.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Others considered Chris a moron in a similar regard that also reached very unpleasant boundaries, yet you reached out to her.
Are you trying to excuse yourself with the adage from Mark Twain, “Don’t argue with an idiot; they will drag down to their level and beat you with experience”?
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Kyle
| I'm not going to advocate for anything out of line, you're operating under the pretense that this is actually a negotiation, when it really isn't.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| You’re right, this is more of a debate and collab at this point, anyway.
I suppose MLPSilverQuill would be more your intellectual speed, anyway.
[posts an image of Sonichu]
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Kyle
| It isn't really a debate either. And they don't want to collab anyway, ergo, nothing involving them really does anything.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Sonichu said with a smirk and a Kra-Kow.
And anything involving them should do nothing in likeness, but here we are with shattering dimensions affecting our own as we speak.
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Kyle
| I'll win anything that can be won, but you need an actual scenario.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| If that were true, you’d be a Gary Stu, and a Gary Stu you are not. He’s chillin with Mary Sue and Phillip Stu, anyway; lovely family. “Best Family Ever.”
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Kyle
| I'm not going to fistfight the world.
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Kyle
| I'm just practical.
Why being involved with Courtney is bad is because there isn't anything you can offer and some things might come off as a threat.
And for the love of Christ don't offer anything.
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Naught
| they just want to use the situation for clout and possible victim point's.
'omg I felt so awkward.'
even though they give people the illusion of being caring yet segregate others and act holier than thou, it's just so tiresome,
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Kyle
| Well that much is obvious.
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MKRNightVee
| If Snt chooses to go with our Chris chan of her own free will there is nothing cortney could do to stop it. Her trying to do so would be false imprisonment of Snt.
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Kyle
| Of course, the odds of this backfiring, well, more of the same.
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MKRNightVee
| [posts an emote]
Love is love
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MKRNightVee
| Fuck courtney, she's mean and Snt doesn't deserve that kind of treatment.
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Kyle
| Bearing in mind this'll be percieved as exactly the same thing she did, which kind of erodes the high ground argument.
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MKRNightVee
| I don't think that matters.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes MKRNightVee's "If Snt chooses to go with our Chris chan of her own free will there is nothing cortney could do to stop it. Her trying to do so would be false imprisonment of Snt." remark]
Yeah, but at this time pre-merge, unless Courtney’s psychic link with SNT is super strong that the two of them have been telepathic with each other, it is tough to officially determine in this dimension’s regards. Granted, this brain is telepathic and we have talked with SNT before, but in the end, rather Courtney allows SNT to be with our Christine and the rest of us or not remains squarely up to her.
And we still have fully yet to prove Chris better in her perspective that has nothing to do with the haters’ past and recent mocking and input.
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MKRNightVee
| You have nothing to prove to courtney, if anything she should be begging your forgiveness.
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Kyle
| It seems, unhealthy to talk so much about someone you've never talked to.
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MKRNightVee
| She's pretty much an e-thot using you so she can get sympathy points from Simps on the internet. (edited)
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Kyle
| No idea if it worked, probably.
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MKRNightVee
| She dosen't care about you, Snt or anyone but herself and her wallet
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MKRNightVee
| And if you don't adopt Snt she'll only suffer at the hands of a dictator. She's being used to make money for courtney, like a creul circus ring leader.
Is that really what you want for her? There is no "bond" to speak of. Only $$$
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Kyle
| I'm not going to go so ham on the possibilities, sometimes malevolence is just dumb.
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MKRNightVee
| Yeah...
I just feel sad for Snt, I'm sorry for my outburst, you know how passionate I am about the kind treatment of ocs...
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I appreciate that, Meghan.
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MKRNightVee
| I want creators to treat them nicely, not as cash cows.
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Kyle
| That argument wouldn't work on her anyway.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Obviously. Chris never really sought cash out of our name for the longest time. But then you can also blame Barb on the “We Need Money” shit.
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Kyle
| Well, something to be said for security...
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| And Chris’ Patreon is dwindling at this time.
It’s a “not sure what to think” situation, really.
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Kyle
| The biggest factor seems to be unreliability of schedule.
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Naught
| you can always do the exclusive offer of allowing patrons into a patron only discord
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Kyle
| [quotes Chris's "It’s a “not sure what to think” situation, really." Remark]
In what way?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Chris would adopt SNT in a heartbeat if she could.
The way this brain functions on quandaries and having to take time with the more extensive ones, Kyle.
It kinda slipped onto the money/no money topic.
Anyway
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Kyle
| I'd take that on as a challenge, not going to take the bait on talking to someone on behalf of someone who made it clear they've made their mind up.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| We are trying what we can with SNT’s present situation of her being trapped on that isolated island by N-Sonichu Prime.
In fact, there is presently a projection of this body and us inside it there accompanying her as we speak.
It’s a slow process, given the time constraints on that island.
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Kyle
| Something to be said about hiding... Just an idea, hmm.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| They were still making their way to the second crystal ball last I heard.
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Kyle
| Probably a stupid idea though, won't go in on it.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Not to mention the speed of Opus’ chronicling.
Meanwhile, still pondering on all that.
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Kyle
| That does open up another possibility as to the calculus of it...
Not sure if viable or not, but it is an interesting plan.
If you're looking for options.
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| @Sonichu982 Just figuring from a statistical perspective, are there empty dimensions?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Hardly, and I can even cite Justice League Infinite Crisis animated movie that the only real empty dimension is a void between dimensions. (edited)
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Kyle
| In the grand scheme of things it's a statistical improbability that there isn't space somewhere.
Doesn't require that much, necessarily.
Just that empty is the ideal state.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Where there isn’t space is a case of claustrophobia for some.
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Kyle
| I'm just working on something as ethically white as possible.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| You’re trying to create an empty dimension?
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Kyle
| No, trying to ascertain if one exists in a usable state.
Not that nationbuilding is likely to be a problem in space arbitrarily. But this is as sure as it gets.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Maybe check out JL Infinite Crisis part where the two Batman counterparts ended up. (edited)
The bomb went off and the bad one became gone.
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Kyle
| I'm just thinking of something as a workable solution to the problem.
Within the problem domain of knowable factors.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Maybe you can get in touch with Tony Stark, Bruce Banner or Bruce Wayne.
Give them a telepathic jingle or astral project to visit any of them.
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Kyle
| Well, I've already got no reason to assume impossibility.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Anything is possible; no doubt.
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Kyle
| Well, looks good on a bumper sticker, but there are laws of physics for a reason.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| And yet there are also lack of physics laws at times.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Unknown
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Kyle
| I'd have also accepted random factors of quantum phenomena.
So essentially the idea being to move agreeable OCs to essentially a safe zone.
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Kyle
| And in so doing, well, secrecy would be needed.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| We have something like that between the Citadel of Ricks and the other space station I mentioned in the SNT Vs Sonichu 2.5 supplemental.
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MKRNightVee
| [posts an emote]
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| In what I’ve mentioned, though, it’s Everyone who has achieved that high level of consciousness; it is not just a bunch of Magi-Chan and Chris Chan counterparts; there are others as well.
At least N-641 MCS is still locked up and depowered in their facility.
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[Five hours later]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| New drawing: guess where I am right now.
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MKRNightVee
| The current story but told from a true and honest perspective? I love it.
It's great to see you draw again.
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Kyle
| The aura thing is an interesting aesthetic.
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MKRNightVee
| I like it too.
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3 December 2020
[Five hours after the above comments, at 2:40 am on 3 December]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes Kyle's "The aura thing is an interesting aesthetic." remark.]
Deja Vu moment as I begin to respond to this; that yellow outline is actually my soul, symbolizing that it is me, Sonichu Prime, in Christine’s body. The full aura colour is actually rainbow.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes MKRNightVee's "The current story but told from a true and honest perspective? I love it." remark]
Yeah that, and to let Opus know that I am literally there and helping SNT.
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Kyle
| That's pretty bad bait though...
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[...]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes Kyle's "That's pretty bad bait though..." remark]
Regardless, that is what is happening.
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Browsing Kiwi Farms
4-5 December 2020
Chris (as Sonichu)
| Hey, y’all.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I’m doing some more meditating at this time, and I even, out of curiosity, and visual confirmation, logged into Chris’ account on KiwiFarms and found Opuscon’s account on there and read his recent responses. They were typical of him as we had foreseen; wanting to disregard the facts we have presented to him of the present times, thinking he has all of the control over his present writing.
I also looked to see if Courtney had an account on there. No results, and Opus stated that with his personal contact with her, she does not speak on Kiwi.
And, yes, she distances herself from all of this at the time.
So nuerotypical.
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Kyle
| Well, wasn't your goal to influence him, so, why doesn't he have autonomy over it, but you're still deciding to go off on Opus?
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Naught
| Yeah, she let's her underlings do the talking
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Kyle
| That's, kind of a poor insult, by the by.
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Naught
| What? They are underlings though
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Opus is still very likely to write me and this body into his fanfic, to the level that it is fated. It is what we have personally experienced and seen for ourselves on the island where we are. And it will become obvious to him of his ability’s limits.
At this point, all I was doing was getting a confirmation update for ourselves. (edited)
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Naught
| Opus bragged about being prepared for this, they're going to just re-write what you put in (edited)
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Kyle
| There are, more constructive ways to go about this, they'll go away if you don't pay attention, don't threaten them, don't engage.
They don't care anyway, proof or no.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| He can try, but when he looks into his isolated island, he will find that he was wrong.
Yes, but this was a fated event that was foreseen to happen.
I have not personally been in contact with him for almost a week now.
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Kyle
| Doubt it, it just ain't worth it regardless.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Not counting the indirect message through the Tweet with the recent drawing.
In many a perspective, it is agreeable that dealing with Opus isn’t worth it, but in the larger picture and greater scheme of things, this is the motivational point that is amongst the required events that needed to take place.
None of us are discouraged at all.
And if you need further verification, y’all can ask Magi-Chan.
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Kyle
| That's a very single sided justification.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| One side out of the many infinite sides and perspectives.
There are many more details and possibilities as well that have yet to be confirmed.
But we all know will happen, regardless.
And then the latter of leftover possibilities passing into not happening.
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Kyle
| So what does the end look like? Because even the action seems vague.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| There is no end, for the Sonichu series and everything else; it is ongoing.
We have answered your questions of what is likely to happen when the Dimension Merge happens for us.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Ah.
Post-Merge, after a while, he will be made an example of for the hateful things he had chronicled of Chris and the rest of us, and the rest of his sins against the rest of us in C-197 and 1218. Out of all of the past bad and hater individuals of this dimension, Opus’ crime of going overboard the intended Dimension Merge in the Haters’ isolated dimension of N-641 is by far the worst. Even compared to someone as great as Clyde Cash and BlueSpike. I still can’t believe we have Clyde Cash reincarnated as a Sonichu living amongst us in C-197, but he has seen the error of his ways and does not bother us these days. Last checked, BlueSpike remains dead.
Courtney is a neutral at this time, but the fact that she has created SNT and SNT having gone on all of these adventures from and returning to C-197; among the other dimension and timeline travelers, hers has had many a prominent effect on our dimension. But it was not fully SNT’s or Courtney’s faults, so their outcomes are still to be confirmed, but the possibilities are existent, including the possibility of SNT wanting to go with Chris later on. Still to be determined.
And on the fact that Opus insists on the events of SNT Vs Sonichu 2 directly involving our dimensions, here, further signifies and makes obvious that the overmerging of dimensions was intentional of him.
The power of Creators and Creative Types in 1218 and all other dimensions, including C-197, are truly vast and great.
For now, since I continue to experience Deja Vu as I have read Kyle’s thoughts and responded to him, we continue on the right track as previously foreseen.
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Kyle
| I'd like to think I have more fortitude than that.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I just noticed the icon for the server has been changed; that's cool.
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[...]
Kyle
| One thing to consider.
You don't have much experience in negotiation, there is a phenomena where people who are inexperienced or unskilled are often the least objective about their own ability.
Why I said, this is not a negotiation, there is no bargaining power here.
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[...]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes Kyle's "You don't have much experience in negotiation, there is a phenomena where people who are inexperienced or unskilled are often the least objective about their own ability." remark]
I understand this is not a negotiation. And between me and Christine, you do not know our negotiation skills. Need I add that Robertchu (Mister C.) is a very strong negotiator, and up until when Barb gets into her Rosechu form (at this time), she used to have better negotiation skills.
In this dimension, Christine comes from a pair of good negotiating parents.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Maybe not, but observation and habits do go down over the time.
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Kyle
| And some practical examples?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Let me check her memories and get back to you on that, Kyle.
But I can state in recent days and before this noggin has shown good retort ability with your thoughts and counter thoughts.
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Kyle
| That was more trying to one-up rather than convincing.
You could have achieved that same result by not listening, so that's why I'm slightly cross.
Buying lotto tickets doesn't make someone a professional gambler. (edited)
And I wouldn't expect an aptitude either, it isn't something you've used enough to become experienced, its how these overestimations of perceived skills generally work. (edited)
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Lainchu (Anaxis)
| [quotes Chris's "I understand this is not a negotiation. And between me and Christine, you do not know our negotiation skills. Need I add that Robertchu (Mister C.) is a very strong negotiator, and up until when Barb gets into her Rosechu form (at this time), she used to have better negotiation skills." remark]
@Sonichu982 Barb has a Rosechu form as well? When would she take that form on?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
Similar to how and when Robertchu finally came into his form on 9/6/2011; Barb has to pretty much lose her human form on that fated day a few years or so from now.
Robertchu’s full art Promo card has Barb in her human form, and I felt it best not to use that card at this time.
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Kyle
| How is she these days?
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[...]
[Several hours later, at 12:13 am on 5 December 2020]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes Kyle's "How is she these days?" remark]
Barbara is doing okay and well.
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Kyle
| You mention disagreements at times.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| The ones with Barb, not feeling like talking about it right now, but the disharmony between Chris and Barb is still remaining, but Barb’s been keeping some of it in, suffice to say. (edited)
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| But, working past the assumptions which are universally applicable, although more viable to some, well, nothing that tempered thought can't do.
You tend to rely on ex post facto arguments, which, regardless of anything are never convincing to anyone who you'd already not have in your corner.
Overpowered isn't a complement. So that can go a long way in explaining, not so much distance but longitude, maybe.
Sidenote: Don't invade people's minds, its rude. 😄 (edited)
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Well, regardless of Chris’ ability to write, draw, speak or think things into fully manifested and tangible effect between dimensions, locally and far, we don’t generally go into arguments that rely on that retconning exposition.
Also, a lot of the times, telepathy is tough to manage when you’re a beginner, and you can suddenly hear everyone’s thoughts simultaneously. It was no fun for Jean Grey or Sunset Shimmer either. So, with that said, it’s not always helped when it comes to mind-reading.
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Kyle
| And more fundamental skills?
Also platitudes about reading and understanding.
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[Several hours later]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| Oh, you ran out of new things to respond with that would have been the same level as the past trite remarks and wit of yours, did you? Just kidding, it’s all cool.
Also, @Nova, and @everyone, let’s do a movie night tonight. Go for 7:00 pm, Eastern; about five and a quarter hours from now.
And, Kyle, look up and add “Xanadu” for our movie viewing for tonight, please.
With subtitles, if possible.
Just watched it last night on HBOMax, for the first time ever for this body and brain. Damn, this flick is a really good mesh of classic and modern music and movies. And Gene Kelly in his later years; doesn’t get better than having him with ONJ being awesome.
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Naught
| Gene kelly is a good dancer / actor
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Kyle
| Familiar with the song.
@Sonichu982 Xanadu 1980?
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[...]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| See y’all in half an hour.
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Kyle
| Also got Fight Club and Shawshank already up there from last time.
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Naught
| [posts an emote]
Link me to it
@MKR did you watch the it came from the Internet?
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Kyle
| Xanadu (1980) [posts a Google Drive link]
@Sonichu982 Ever see anything with Leslie Nielsen?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [posts a Google Meet link]
I'm not sure.
Movie Night, @everyone
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Scheming against Opuscon and his fanfic
6 December 2020
Chris (as Sonichu)
| Hey, @everyone. We have just confirmed another foreseen development, but also confirmed one of our fears. Opuscon is taking advantage of the Flame of Solaris in his chronicling. In checking with a wiki-type page on Solaris (from your Sonic ‘06 game), the deity is capable of destroying dimensions and timelines, which obviously puts both of ours, here, at further risk. I have confirmed this in the second chapter of SNT Vs Sonichu 3 that he has uploaded recently (from a dream SNT had). Also, he denied using the S-Chu Crystal Balls after I foretold that, but that is what is chronicled on his part.
Presently, on the island, SNT has collected four of the Crystal Balls with mine and Courtney’s Sylveon’s help (Kinda wish Courtney gave the Sylveon a nickname; possibly Sasseon).
And last night, as I was helping SNT get through that boss to get the fourth Crystal Ball, I suddenly hyper-aura-flash power-up in both the manifested, tangible projected body there, and in the body here, N-641 Sonichu Prime revealed himself to us, and we had an encounter.
Guess who else ended up escaping and joining the fight...
N-641 Magi-Chan.
He escaped his collar inhibitor by steadily increasing his inhibited physical speed and vibrating himself out of the collar. Damn it. They could have used something stronger there.
But in this even more overpowered form I had, I managed to outspeeed and recatch that Magi-Chan in a Master-leveled S-Chu Ball, and our Mewtwo projected and collected the ball, and catching it within one of his uber tough Poke Balls. N-641 MCS will be kept confined in both of the balls back on the distant dimension’s citadel complex.
Meanwhile, N-641 Sonichu made an attack on SNT, and he got away.
Now that that particular self-counterpart of mine has the Flame of Solaris within reach, he is going to be a really tough contender to deal with, even with our Chris Chan’s powers and abilities.
The only weakness Solaris has is in its consciousness; you knock out its consciousness, you got that thing.
I’d hate to see this play out with that corrupted Sonichu Prime at the helm.
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Naught
| Hmm, is this related to the doppelganger you brought up?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| The doppelgänger topic earlier was in relation to Christine’s look and behave-alikes existent in this dimension and timeline, and most of them have decreased in number now.
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Naught
| So this corrupted version is different?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| So, no, not directly.
Very much so.
The life of that particular Sonichu Prime was manifested from the misinterpretations of Chris and the rest of us from the haters and bad individuals of this dimension.
And after one has lead a life where their leading Chris Chan continued to be portrayed as lazy and Trump-level narcissistic, they would not be having a very good life.
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Naught
| Is there any way this can be put in the pocket dimension mentioned before?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| It is most depressing and disappointing, to say the least.
Hmm...
In regard to the empty dimension or Void that @Nova has proposed earlier, the answer is yes it is possible, but no, due to how we’re talking about an individual with a corrupted mind and personality getting himself exposed to such a high-level of dimension-hopping and devastating power, even after re-extinguishing Solaris from N-641 Sonichu Prime, there would still be remnants left behind in his body that would give him some dimension-traveling abilities, albeit at the minimum level.
So, even if we were to disable him, and put him into that void, he’d eventually find a way out and back to us.
It would have to take a similar, but more intricate, time-fast and complicated measure, to catch him in something like one of Mewtwo’s uber-powerful Pokeballs after being caught in another very strong PokeBall, and sealing those balls within a barrier that separates them from any and all dimensions, timelines and universes.
And even if we wanted to issue a death penalty on N-641 SP, his consciousness would remainifest itself somewhere even farther and distant, and then quick as a flash return to us in a fully-recreated reincarnated body of his former self, with upgrades to prevent us from being able to repeat the process.
The only true way to defeat such a foe is to wait out their age, which would very likely take infinite eons of time, and then some.
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Naught
| I mean, if you stand by the river long enough the bodies of your enemies will float by
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| True
But the question is with or without the consciousness and memories of their soul and being that you have encountered before.
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Naught
| If it won't negatively impact the individual why not give them a men in black style memory wipe so to speak
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I know what you mean. But even if their memory were wiped like that, there remains the heavy possibility and likelihood that in dreams and linking with themselves from alternate timelines and dimensions, they would fully recover their memories and resume. And with the varying possibilities of new memories that could have manifested during the time post-wipe, it would be more likely they’d continue their duty and tasks.
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MKRNightVee
| May I offer a small suggestion?
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| The motive of N-641 SP is the loss of his respective Chris Chan, and becoming dimensionally isolated from his original dimension, of which he blames SNT for. He likely knows of Opuscon and his writing all of this into place as well, and would go after him soon enough. And being aware of his OG self-counterpart (me, and my body that our Chris is in over there with you, Bis), he has a specific target hit-list. (edited)
Hey, Meghan.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I’m listening.
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MKRNightVee
| Nega magi-chan reminds me of Tri, that being said, as powerful as any magi-chan is he is at his core still a pokemon. Pokemon arnt inherently evil, once they have a trainer they pick up or feed off the morals and nature of the trainer's heart.
Capture him and find a suitable trainer, I would even be a willing candidate. Once that's done he should become more kind.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Initial response as I am eating lunch at the instant: Discord and Fluttershy’s “Keep Calm and Flutter On”, and the one Morty that overpowered all other Ricks.
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MKRNightVee
| [posts an emote]
Yay~
Sometimes the kindest and simplest answer is the key.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Yes, Sometimes. The point I am trying to relay is that even though N-641 SP may have been mistakenly portrayed as dumb and uneducated, he still is very intelligent and smart, while also capable of educating himself. Not to mention that N-641 MCS will have very likely educated SP in everything basic and human, Including how to play and master a game of chess, 3D Chess, and then some, to say the least. SP is more likely to take advantage of the kindness and gullability of those who would take him in to his advantage over whatever the Trainer, even you, in question does and tries to influence them for the better. Even if you take the aggressive route and left SP, he would more likely stake the claim on the fact that he is no longer bound and tethered and can resume on that hit list while on the run. Yes, the variables to the contrary are there, but it’s still too soon to confirm that outcome.
Especially as we are still on the island seeing this event continue to play out, and must be finished, including the chronicling by Opuscon up to the extent or near the final chapter.
AND
The only main way to really get you ownership of N-641 SP to even get started on that, You, @MKR, would have to directly contact Opuscon, elaborate and get him to believe you into having him be able to even foresee that in what he is writing in order for it to happen. And with that, his level of hatred and cynicism is high enough that you’d be blocked easier than squishing an ant in this dimension at the present moment, and you’d be putting yourself at risk of being further bullied by the other Haters and taunted on the Kiwi, and whatever.
Although, all of you are already reading on the Kiwi and know Josh, so he’s kind of a buffer shield. And you have Nightvee and the others helping you out. Okay, this may likely work out.
I can get you his handle, if you want to DM him on Discord.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| All right then. One moment, please.
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MKRNightVee
| [posts an emote]
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Yep.
Phenomenal cosmic wisdom and knowledge, dimensional linking and syncing, with future sight abilities; it is a massive amount to take on in a single brain. (edited)
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Naught
| Tbh quite a few people gave them :autistic: and :dumb: ratings, what i mean is people want another 'saga' deny them the content they're trying to force.
Somethingrandom isn't interesting enough on their own without you, let it fade away and the events stay in their pocket dimension.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| That pocket dimension is ever expanding, as I have told you. Even if I ignored it, it would still happen and affect us all on impact. This brain and conscious having the knowledge and awareness is the better of that pair of evils. To be ignorant and never have had this information and awareness available, we would have still been force-projected into that fanfic, and only partially seeing the outcomes and details, thus really inhibiting our abilities here and now. And when that moment comes down the road when N-641 SP makes a tangible break into this 1218 dimension and timeline, we would have wanted to be fully prepared as much as possible.
So, regardless of level of “interesting” with Opuscon in this dimension, he’s still doing the massive amounts of damage, and we need to nip it at the bud around when it happens. (edited)
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Naught
| Yes, I understand but I'm talking about from a public perspective
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| The counter-argument there is that as many people in this dimension as possible become more and more aware of the Dimension Merge for us, and had I never said anything about Opuscon publicly on Twitter, they would have had that significant lack of knowledge that would have inhibited them as well, and their lives would have been more likely taken by N-641 SP. So, again, to have this available to them in answering their continuing questions as well is beneficial in the longer run.
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Naught
| Declare them a false prophet like Ben Saint, leave it at that.
It's your dimension
People will understand the overall message
What's the term they're like heretical texts or what's the term im looking for
The books that aren't canonized
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Unfortunately, it is a premature time to thrust that upon Opuscon during these present set of events. If I were to publicly tweet the discredit upon him prematurely before his trial under the Council of Gods, everything would still continue on, regardless, and again a lot of people would be lacking in information of the present day events. And, even worse, the peoples of this dimension would be rioting and there’d be worse chaos amongst the remaining populations, and when N-641 SP comes in to do his thing, everyone would be too distracted by their fights between each other to be able to make their proper counters and self-defenses.
AFTER Opuscon’s trial, though, the deities will have disabled him of his abilities as they did to N-641’s Chris Chan, and only after then would he become labeled as a discredited ex-prophet, or similar. (edited)
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Naught
| Nah, I didn't mean on Twitter just in general.
But i guess it's going to play out
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Quite so.
Such is the tiring responsibility, ability and duty of an overpowered psychic type, or a deity with such abilities, to root through and sort out all infinite possibilities and variables towards the foreseen future events, and adjusting/readjusting present events as best and complex-detailed as possible in order for us to see the more desired, optimal outcome and result.
You must also remember, Bismuth, that not only does our Chris Chan Sonichu have some control over C-197, but she has some control over this dimension we are in as well.
And with such great power comes greater responsibility.
We remain on the continued correct track, as the deja vu moments continue to pour in.
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| I will tell you that one of our present sub-goals that will improve our future possibilities is Courtney, and maybe Saki, playing some Sonic World, and a character Mod of SNT, with swappable homing attack, flight and glide skills with a Boost, tail and punch types of attacks. If we can also get Saki’s fox OC created as well, that would be even better. And with at least Courtney playing as SNT for hours would renew their psychic link and bond, and Courtney would better comprehend the present situations and how critical they are.
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| Obviously, another goal, if we can make it, is to have character Mods of Rosey, Magi-Chan and Chris Chan in her Sonichu form for Sonic World as well. Each of them would have our personal touch in the voice files and the Bio.
Nightstar in her Sonichu form would be an awesome bonus on top of that if possible.
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