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| ===Attempting to Thwart Sockness, Discussions About Kyle, Praetor, & Chris's Future=== | | ===Attempting to Thwart Sockness, Discussions About Kyle, Praetor, & Chris's Future=== |
| 12-13 July 2021
| | {{Main|Knights Chats - Sockness Alert}} |
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| {{collapsible|Anaxis's summary|NovaKyle informs WCT of Jacob Sockness's intentions to go to Everfree Northwest and meet with Chris, and WCT warns Chris about this in turn. The Fool states that Chris should have bodyguards at the convention and WCT agrees, sparking a discussion on strategies to keep Chris safe. WCT soon decides to reach out to the convention and warn them about Sockness as well, though I take the position that he should inform Null first. Para later takes the position that Nova isn't a bad guy and points out how the Knights aren't much different from the Watchmen. WCT mostly agrees with the latter opinion but disagrees strongly with the former, citing Nova deciding to side with Naught (again). | |
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| WCT later shares DMs he had with Chris, where the latter states that he had informed Null about Sockness and that Sockness couldn't take his "new virginity" because he had been having sex with his "lady friend." WCT and Para shit-talk Sockness for a while, then Para bashes Praetor some more. The final topic of discussion is Chris's future, and how the WCT believes that Chris's story will end when Barb passes away.}}
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| {{AbsentChris}}
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| 12 July 2021
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 04:38 AM|''[[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857519937686208512/864063255914872882/image0.png Screenshot of a message from NovaKyle, linking to a post from the Kidasuna subreddit and reading "Don't fuck up."]]''
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| Kyle giving me a heads up about Sockness going to Everfree Northwest.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 04:39 AM|wow?
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| that's peculiar}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 04:40 AM|At least he now recognizes me as the new leader.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 04:40 AM|yeah, that's wild}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 04:40 AM|I should probably warn Chris.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 04:40 AM|do you have protection for chris?}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 04:41 AM|I won’t tell them that Kyle gave me that link, but I will give him said link.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 04:42 AM|yeah but does chris have bodyguards? like even a normal person would want protection against sockness lol}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 04:42 AM|https://www.reddit.com/r/Kidasuna/comments/ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free/}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 04:43 AM|''[[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857519937686208512/864064480975388672/unknown.png Cropped screenshot from the Reddit page, reading "my suit is ready and my goddess is ripe."]]''
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| fear
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| like legit I'm not even joking make sure chris has bodyguards}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 04:45 AM|''[[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857519937686208512/864064945707548692/image0.png Screenshot of The WCT warning Chris about Sockness and sending the Reddit post link.]]''{{refn|group="footnote"|The full conversation between WCT and Chris about Sockness can be read [[WCT DMs#Sockness alert|here]].}}}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 04:45 AM|this isn't even about chris' mental faculties this is about a stalker}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 04:48 AM|''[Replying to "this isn't even about chris' mental faculties this is about a stalker"]''
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| I agree with Kyle on this.
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| Sockness needs to be stopped and Chris needs to avoid him at all costs.}}
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| {{quoteboxwhite|speaker = [REDACTED]|time = 5:01 AM|Tell Null about it too since he's helping Chris with the trip.}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 05:10 AM|Of course.}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 01:02 PM|Well, at least we know that Kyle still cares somewhat for Chris's wellbeing that he was willing to put aside his animosity for you to warn you about Sockness}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:27 PM|''[Replying to "Well, at least we know that Kyle still cares somewhat for Chris's wellbeing that he was willing to put aside his animosity for you to warn you about Sockness"]''
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| Because we both despise Sockness.
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| That’s what originally brought us together 2 years ago.}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 01:28 PM|I guess shared hatred really does bring people together}}
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| {{quoteboxpurple|speaker = Silvia|time = 01:53 PM|Ewwwww sockness}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 02:02 PM|okay now that I'm sober
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| can you call the convention and tell them about sockness?}}
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| {{quoteboxpurple|speaker = Silvia|time = 02:02 PM|This lol}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 02:04 PM|I feel like bringing attention to Sockness will simultaneously bring attention to Chris
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| And may cause a preemptive ban for both of them
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| But I think the decision on how to move forward on this should be Null's, since he's the organizer of this whole shebang}}
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| {{quoteboxpurple|speaker = Silvia|time = 02:06 PM|I hope they will at least tell bull
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| Null}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 02:26 PM|sockness is dangerous in general, you can call them and not make it about chris}}
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| {{quoteboxpurple|speaker = Silvia|time = 02:26 PM|Fair}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 02:26 PM|just sound really sincere about your concern of this person being dangerous to certain con goers
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| show them anything incriminating he has, I don't really follow him so I don't know what he does besides post shoops of ghost portals or something}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 03:22 PM|ok people, what should I do:
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| A. Contact Chris and Warn Him.
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| B. Contact Null.
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| C. DM the Convention on Twitter about Sockness.
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| Or D. Stand back and do nothing.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 03:23 PM|all three
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| just make sure not to directly mention chris
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| just say he's a dangerous man in general
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| show them some evidence
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| maybe do C first and if they don't say anything then contact chris and josh}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 03:25 PM|[[File:WCTEFNWSocknessWarning.png|500px]]}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 03:26 PM|if they ban him then it's a non-issue but if not then chris deserves to know and maybe josh can set him up with some guards}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 03:29 PM|I just DM'd Chris.
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| and knowing him, he'll probably listen to me.}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 03:29 PM|Well, I was gonna suggest telling Josh before reaching out to the convention, but I guess it's too late now}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 03:30 PM|why?}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 03:30 PM|Because Josh is the one coming up with all the plans}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 03:30 PM|removing the threat of sockness being there entirely would be the best outcome}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 03:31 PM|Yeah, I know. But having Null be the one to tell the convention or get chris bodyguards would be the best solution, I think, since he's got so many connections.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 03:31 PM|for the bodyguards yeah
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| but I think if we can just get sockness to fuck off ourselves then we wouldn't have to bother josh about it
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| and if we can't then maybe he can}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 03:32 PM|Well, I'm always more of a fan of the hands-off, indirect approach
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| Have Josh do the dirty work rather than us}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 03:33 PM|same but kat seems pretty eager to take initiative
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| I'm just throwing suggestions out there}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 03:33 PM|Well, that's up to him}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 03:33 PM|yeah}}
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| {{quoteboxgreen|speaker = Lainchu (Anaxis)|time = 03:33 PM|Was just putting my opinion out there as well}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 03:42 PM|If people ask me what's the difference between the Praetor group and Sockness, I'll tell them this:
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| One grifts, the other stalks.
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| We all know who the lesser evil in this is.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 05:29 PM|why are you acting as if kyle stopped caring
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| nothing changed
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| you guys decided to pull away because somehow this group which is kind of samey is “different”}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 05:34 PM|''[Replying to "you guys decided to pull away because somehow this group which is kind of samey is “different”"]''
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| There is mostly no difference other than the fact that Meghan and Kyle aren’t here anymore.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 05:36 PM|here comes para to save the day telling us what we already know in this most pessimistic way possible
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| ''[[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857519937686208512/864258844083486740/fedora_assassin.jpg Image of a man wearing a Fedora, Photoshopped into a screenshot from Assassin's Creed: Revelations.]]''}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 05:37 PM|The Knights of CWC is overall the same thing as the Watchmen except we don’t have the “toxic trio” as Chris describes. lol}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 05:37 PM|we don't discriminate over which of each other's dicks we jerk off}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 05:38 PM|And we also aren’t as controlling of Chris’s actions as the old Watchmen were. We’ll only intervene when Chris’s physical safety is at stake.
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| The financial and legal issues are mostly up to Null.}}
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| ''[...]''
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 05:47 PM|anyways i am not being a downer its better than being delusional kyle isnt a bad guy}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 05:48 PM|no we're all very well aware kyle is irredeemable
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| it's just interesting how he sort of, I dunno, broke character like that?}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 05:48 PM|is this just larping (edited)}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 05:49 PM|I dunno ask kat}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 05:52 PM|''[Replying to "anyways i am not being a downer its better than being delusional kyle isnt a bad guy"]''
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| Kyle sided with the man who doxed me and treated me like shit.
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| If he wants to give me some helpful advice, it would be great. But I won’t tolerate endless hostilities.}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 05:53 PM|''[Replying to "it's just interesting how he sort of, I dunno, broke character like that?"]''
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| It’s good, nothing wrong with that.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 05:53 PM|he's a big fat meanie face and I don't like him}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 05:54 PM|Kyle needs to lay down the bottle and rethink his morals.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 06:05 PM|then its a question of who sided with who not really one of principles
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| or personal actions
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| i unno}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 06:10 PM|Like I said, I’m willing to listen to him if it’s something that’s helpful.
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| But he has to understand that any relationship between us at this point is nothing more than the occasional team up.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 06:15 PM|i feel like
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| if you guys wouldve just handled your shit
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| between eachother
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| it wouldve been fine
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| but the internet makes the most simplest of shit so gay}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 06:17 PM|''[Replying to "between eachother"]''
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| the problem though was Naught was not willing to cooperate with me.
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| and he successfully manipulated those two.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 06:17 PM|yeah dude naught's gone totally silent
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| I keep saying he should have just rolled with the punches and took the L but he's cowering like a baby over dumb internet shit}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 06:18 PM|If Naught had been able to prove his innocence to me in any possible way, along with not being so hostile as he was in those recordings (along with making that thread about me on the ALog Cow board), we might all still be in the place today.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 06:19 PM|i get that he forced your hand}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 06:19 PM|I wanted to give him a chance.
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| I literally did.
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| But he kept on burning the bridges.
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| Its almost like he never tried.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 06:20 PM|what if he just admitted to it
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| and apologized}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 06:20 PM|''[Replying to "what if he just admitted to it"]''
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| he did.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 06:20 PM|why not say sorry then
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| dumbass}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 06:20 PM|''[Replying to "why not say sorry then"]''
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| because of his ego.
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| ''[[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857519937686208512/862814167386685480/Screenshot_338.png Screenshot of WCT goading Naught into posting WCT's "big boy dox."]]''
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| By the time he posted that Cow thread, I was almost ready to move on and just focus on everything else.
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| but then the WCT got hit with community guideline strikes, and its pretty clear that he and a few others mass flagged my channel. (edited)
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| but like @The Fool said earlier: He's long gone.
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| And he'll never be seen again. (especially when some of his biggest haters are on the brink of finding his dox as well)}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 08:23 PM|''[[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857519937686208512/864300999502069810/e1705401-8ba1-454f-8f40-ac83472a0aae.png Screenshot of Chris responding to WCT's warning, stating that he would alert Null, which WCT then encouraged.]]''}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 08:54 PM|I hope chris actually makes his stupid blue heart costume that is going to be so funny to witness}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 08:54 PM|Chris also told me he'll try to get some protection for himself there.}}
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| {{quoteboxkiwi|speaker = The Fool|time = 08:55 PM|thats good}}
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| 13 July 2021
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:22 AM|''[[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857519937686208512/864360999583088660/63703490-e8a8-4d82-9b2f-d6808289d26e.png Screenshot of Chris informing WCT that he told Null about Sockness.]]''{{refn|group="footnote"|This conversation can be read in full [[WCT DMs#Barbara's ex|here]].}}}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:25 AM|hes gonna get a rubber}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:26 AM|''[[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857519937686208512/864362186213556224/2a36262a-b1be-4f75-82de-371e47dd1bd9.png Screenshot of WCT responding to Chris in relief, followed by Chris stating that Sockness couldn't claim his "new virginity" because he had been having sex with his "lady friend."]]''}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:31 AM|''[Replying to "hes gonna get a rubber"]''
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| Josh might cuck Sockness.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:31 AM|mannn}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:32 AM|the convention is not for another month.
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| which means that Josh will have more than enough time to pull some strings.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:32 AM|can't like
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| sockness go away
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| chris hasn't really told sockness to fuck off though
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| kind of partially his own fault}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:32 AM|Sockness is mentally ill and he believes with the Watchmen gone he can finally fuck Chris.}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:33 AM|''[Replying to "chris hasn't really told sockness to fuck off though"]''
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| yes he told him to fuck off.
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| and we put a stop to it in September 2019.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:33 AM|yeah but he didn't do it
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| on his own
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| he likes the attention
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| is what i am saying (edited)}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:33 AM|I don't disagree with you there tbh.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:33 AM|he likes feeling desirable like a woman}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:34 AM|I feel like on one hand he's serious about this but on the other he's doing this because he wants some clout.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:34 AM|even if he wouldn't overall consent}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:35 AM|''[Replying to "even if he wouldn't overall consent"]''
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| If Chris consented that'd be a problem.
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| but fortunately he is smart enough to understand how gross Jacob is.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:37 AM|okay if he would consent right
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| why are you protecting chris from him again
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| they're both gross
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| they're both men
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| they deserve eachother}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:38 AM|''[Replying to "why are you protecting chris from him again"]''
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| because Sockness wants to do more than have sex with him.
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| he wants to murder him because he's crazy.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:38 AM|then he should be locked up
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| or put in a home
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| god damnm}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:38 AM|''[Replying to "or put in a home"]''
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| he lives in the Tenderloin in SF.
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| the worst neighborhood in all of the City.
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| I've been there a couple times, its a shithole.
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| A fitting place for Sockness.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 09:32 AM|why think that kyle is unforgivable but praetor weens are perfectly fine
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| because its not personal?}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 10:06 AM|i still dont think those praetor folks are good news but whatever}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:31 PM|''[Replying to "why think that kyle is unforgivable but praetor weens are perfectly fine"]''
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| They’re both bad.}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:32 PM|''[Replying to "i still dont think those praetor folks are good news but whatever"]''
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| Yeah they’re cringe and should be laughed at but they didn’t deserve to be bullied.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:35 PM|yeah i am just saying tread carefully
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| i dont like em}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:46 PM|''[Replying to "i dont like em"]''
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| You should be skeptical with them, but don’t a log them like the others did.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:49 PM|i just calls it like i sees it
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| they are weens who manipulate and exploit an autistic guy for eclout
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| and they think they are internet badasses for it
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| oh and they’re fucking zoomers
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| on top of it
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| chris is like a relic of my generation of internet so even if hes retarded narcissistic and what have you
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| i dont want people using him for personal gain
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| especially by zoomers
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| dude these fags are 15 years late
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| can they just stop}}
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| ''[...]''
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:54 PM|zoomer humor is like
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| beating a dead horse
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| shit is dead and over but they’re still catching up on something that came and went}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:55 PM|Exactly
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| I really hope Chris can arrange a chat between me and Caden because a lot of things need to be cleared up.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:57 PM|tbh they just need to fuck off
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| i know you want to fix things
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| but this new generation
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| of faggots
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| are 60x more predatory psychotic and self serving
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| than older people}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:58 PM|You’re not wrong}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:59 PM|i get isolating chris isnt fun and shit but when i look at it
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| its for the best}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:59 PM|I still think it will happen.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 12:59 PM|chris might never have a genuine friend in his life because he is incapable of forming those bonds on his own
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| fuck he cant even take care of animals}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 12:59 PM|I already know when Chris might become isolated.
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| When his Mom dies.
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| That will make him wide open.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 01:00 PM|i just dont think exposing him further to degenerate psychotic exploitative zoomers
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| is a great idea
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| but its chris’s life
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| he does what he want
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| makes me sad though
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| as an old fan
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| and an oldfag
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| yeahhh
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| ur right
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| he needs to be in a home eventually}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:02 PM|@Para Barb passing away will be the moment Chris’s story ends imo.
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| Josh will make sure that he goes somewhere that nobody will bother him again.
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| And long before the Watchman broke up, I went through over states across the country with Kyle to see where we can have Chris move to.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 01:05 PM|probably should set up a situation where people can visit hjm in some way just not predatory dicks
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| cause its nice to know that people care
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| jersh should do that}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:06 PM|I think Chris should live in either a Rural area or a Suburb.
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| We already figured out that he wouldn’t like the big city.}}
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| {{quoteboxonion|speaker = Para|time = 01:06 PM|i think hes too attached to ruckersville/charlottesville}}
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| {{quoteboxorange|speaker = The WCT|time = 01:07 PM|He could remain in the Charlottesville area.
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| Or maybe we can have him move to Richmond, Virginia.
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| He went to High School there.
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| Or maybe have him move to another state with a similar vibe like North Carolina}}
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