Taser Discussion

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Delusion disclosure: This article or section takes place during Chris's phase of role-playing as Sonichu. He may refer to his Christine Chandler personality and physical body in the third person by using terms such as "mama".

Taser Discussion is a 48-minute long call involving Chris, several Watchmen, and Praetor member Caden, which was recorded by Watchmen member The WCT. Among the topics, Chris discusses wanting to use a taser, a desire he had expressed previously in a leaked text message; he believes tasing his Gate Crystal and Celestial Key quartz crystals would assist with activating the Dimensional Merge.

A brief clip was leaked by the Watchman leader Naught on 8 February 2021. However, the context of the clip was spun to paint Caden and Praetor in a negative light - Naught prefaced the leak with the comment, "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed," omitting that, in the clip, it is a Watchman member, Val, who jokingly floats the idea of Chris tazing himself, Chris volunteering himself for it, then Caden telling him it is a bad idea.

The full audio was released on 30 June 2021, lending new context to the nature of the discussion.

Original Clip

In the clip, the Watchmen member Val states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. Praetor member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea."

In his Kiwi Farms post, Naught named only Praetor member Caden and Chris as those present in the call. This omission led to speculation that Praetor's members were attempting to get Chris to tase himself. The Christuber GiBi produced a video on the topic in which he erroneously attributed all of the voices in the clip to Praetor members.

In a DM over Discord to a CWCki editor, Naught clarified that the voices present in the clip are Watchmen members Val, Nova/Kyle, The WCT; Praetor member Caden; and Chris.

Taser discussion
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From a Kiwi Farms forum post by Watchmen member Naught:

Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed.

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Caden: I- I-

Val: No, I don't think they were. Like, at all.

Caden: I don't think they were either.

Val: I don't think anything at all was ever solved. In the slightest. [laughs]

Caden: Not even a little bit.

Val: Even-

Kyle: When are you gonna do the- uh, testing video you promised?

Caden: The testing video?

Kyle: Yeah!

Val: Can you put, "Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz"?

Caden: Well, we're gonna-

Chris: I'll do it.

Caden: What?

Chris: I'd volunteer.

Caden: What?!? WHAT?!??!

Val: [bursts out laughing]

Chris: I'd tase myself. In serious and in joke, I would.

Caden: Look, are you sure-

WCT: Oh no...

Caden: There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea.

WCT: Oh no...

Caden: Are you- we'll talk about this later, okay?

WCT: OH NO!

Caden: I really gotta go before we make any rash decisions that involve CWC being zapped.

Chris: Obviously. But I mean, this body is part electricity literally, So I could take it.

Uncut Version

The WCT explains the context of the full chat, and why it was originally clipped.

On 30 June 2021, Watchmen member The WCT released the uncut audio call (lasting about 48 minutes) onto YouTube and posted about it on the now-defunct forum lolcow.org, seemingly out of a desire to lend full context to the minute-long clip that was originally released on Kiwi Farms. In it, multiple Watchmen and Caden, a member of Praetor, talk to one another regarding the taser.

People present in the call are: Chris, Caden Peck, Kyle, MKRNightVee, The WCT, Val and Naught. Anaxis was also in this call, but did not turn his mic on.

CWC and Friends talking to Praetor (February 8, 2021)
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The never before seen original and uncut infamous taser call.

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Who was in the wrong? you decide.

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On February 8, 2021. Chris and the Watchmen would get into a Voice Chat with Praetor's leader Caden.

After the call concluded, the Watchmen's leader Naught uploaded a minute long audio clip to Kiwi Farms without full context that aimed to demonize and discredit Caden and Praetor as a whole.

For 4 months, this call remained private and kept away in local storage...

until now.

Originally recorded on February 8, 2021

Audio begins.

Chris: Literally and truly, putting a taser to the crystal was my own idea, and I got it through meditation and seeing into the future.

Kyle: Well where's the ground in that circuit? Just thinking of it from an electrical perspective.

Caden: The taser itself is a closed circuit. It's all contained within a little box. It's a handheld zapper, we don't use anything that's, ya know, firing any projectiles. That's just not only a m-

Kyle: That's because you keep erroneously calling it a taser when it's in fact a stun-gun.

Caden: I don't want to bust chops over semantics here, when I bought it it said "taser" on e-bay.

Kyle: Didn't you show a different one?

Caden: No no, we're using the exact same ones

Kyle: No you said in the past a different one!

Caden: No no, it's the same one. So we bulked ordered them, for the original purpose of sale. There's 10 of them right now. Uh, depending on how sales initially went, we were considering another order of 10-20. But, ya know, it's all based on what happens in this coming month. Whatever the case, this specific idea... what I don't understand is - while I do get while you're concerned about the safety of CWC, especially when it comes to the usage of a little zapper like that - at the bottom line that is that - not only

Kyle: [interrupting] Don't downplay it. Don't downplay it. A little zapper? No - it's a fucking self-defense instrument. It's not an instrument of mild irritation.

Caden: If you don't wanna downplay it-

MKR: Chris has had heart troubles in the past, so why wouldn't we worry?

Caden: Well, I won't - I won't downplay it, these things are brutal. But, if you're using them correctly, you have no chance of getting zapped whatsoever. And frankly, we recognize Chri-

Kyle: And this is [a very much off-label] use.

Caden: Well hold on. We recognize Christine as an adult who can make her own decisions and the fact that she requested one of these tasers… we thought that we’d let it happen. And will continue to let what she requests happen, happen. Unless it's something that's an absolutely out of proportion judgement - but we've never ever seen anything like that in our personal experience with her. We've full faith in the choices that she's making - and if she feels that this taser will bring about this-the dimensional merge than we're more than happy to experiment.

Chris: Or at the very least, a portal for me to finally get this body to CWCville.

MKR: I really don't think that's gonna work like that.

Chris: Well you don't know.

Chris: You can get sonar by running electricity through just a regular non-soulfully powered quartz that you would get a lot more through a heavily programmed overpowered one!

Kyle: That's because it's a distinct electrical instrument, using electrical purity quartz with a tolerance of something like 35bpm and that's for sonar which now presumably took out of scope or frequency.

MKR: Besides the regular electricity from any regular device wouldn't really count, I mean, wouldn't the electricity coming from your body naturally be the kind that you would need to power such a thing?

Chris: That is one thing, yes. It’s not tangible from… it's not so tangible, I mean… I wish I could do a thundershock from this body where you could see sparks coming from these hands or these cheeks. But that's not happening right now, at least at this moment-

MKR: Maybe your training's just not complete.

Chris: The best I can do to show some power is between the visions and foresight and the limited tele- the limited telekinesis and telepathy.

WCT: IMO you don't need that thing.

MKR: You really don't.

Kyle: D'you really need to prove-

MKR: Unless you're defending yourself from a predator, I don't think so,

WCT: A gun is more effective in self defense, but that's obviously not what we're talking about here.

MKR: *laughs* No.

Kyle: Oh trust me, I know!

Chris: Alright but anyway, the results were very good and Caden here will vouch for that - especially on the before on feeling[/filling?] the gate crystal and then AFTER sensing the gate crystal and the boosted energy that came out of it.

Kyle: You got extensive experience tasing yourself Caden?

Caden: Well ya know I've zapped myself a couple of times, I wouldn't sell something if I didn't know if it felt like - and uh - it doesn't feel good, I'll tell ya that!

Kyle: Really? I've seen the one you've mentioned and uh - it seems like a lot to subject anyone to.

Caden: It's a little rough - it's a little rough around the edges but, ya know -

Kyle: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's -

MKR: Maybe you should do it again and videotape it.

Kyle: I'm sure that's why they sell it. It's a little rough.

Caden: Oh it's a little rough for sure.

MKR: Just to prove it's only a little rough...

Kyle: Yeah; shove it up your ass to see how much you like it.

Caden: We were thinking of a demonstration if we could find a willing participant, well ya know, we're - we're looking.

Kyle: Well apparently you're a willing participant, do it now!

MKR: Didn't you just say that you were willing to test it on yourself?

Caden: Well not with a camera on me, I'm- I'm screenshy.

MKR: Then how do we know that you did it?

Caden: Well I guess you'll have to take my word for it on this one.

MKR: I can't take your word for anything cause you're a - freakin pathological liar Caden!

Kyle: Your words were jack and shit!

Caden: That is worth - that is downright hurtful, first of all, second of all-

MKR: Yeah (unintelligble) when you're sarcastic.

Kyle: Yeah I should feel very sorry for you.

MKR: Aw, poor Caden.

Chris: That is very wrong, to call him a pathological liar, because he is not.

MKR: Chris, he is a pathological liar.

Caden: I appreciate you defending me, Christine. But uh, like i again I feel very certain that there's not there's not a lot we can do to kind of, turn around that kind of view on us. Now we'll accept it, because again we let me reiterate I understand that you know y'all y'all have your concerns for Christine and it is a genuinely good thing however at the end of the day we're partnered with her not with y'all. We we we're in this Discord group just just because we were invited here but again we you know what what happens what what happens between us and Christine we're going to attempt to keep it you know when it comes down to final judgments, between us and Christine right? Now if if you'd like to join us we'd be happy to have you but i have a strange feeling that none of y'all are feeling that kind of movement.

MKR: Join you? What would that entail? How would I join you?

WCT: Press X to doubt. Press X to doubt.

Caden: Well, first of all before you go hitting those X's, I mean there's a ton of ways you could join us. I mean, firstly I'd like to start with a warm handshake.

WCT: Caden, Caden, Caden.

[...]

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Chris: Caden is the salesman. But you know the other members of our group here, uh, you know, uh, Caden, Owen, Bella, Annabel. But, yeah, we have a couple of genuine psychic types and they...

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Val: There’s been lots and lots of people who could’ve made a buck off Chris, but they didn’t. Why?

Caden: Well, because they weren’t smart enough.

Naught: Do you really believe that?

Chris: Actually that’s a valid statement right there, especially considering the [past life with Praetor?]

Caden: We recognize the value of partnering with CWC. We recognize the value of her talent and what she brings to the board. Now I understand the controversy we’ve raised, but frankly, we don’t intend on really moving that much, we’re very pleased with where we are, alright? If you have any grievances we’re happy to hear them, and we love feedback, ya know? Regardless of how much it hurts us. But we-

Naught: Just interact with the retards that buy shit. I think it's that simple. It's what I said earlier, if you want to be a businessman or whatever, interact with the people, keep the optics up, and that's pretty much it!

Caden: That's what - that's our intentions.

[long pause]

Caden: So anything further?

WCT: Does anyone else have anything else to discuss with Caden?

Naught: No, I don't want to get pissed on and told it's raining.

WCT: No, of course.

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MKR: Chris why… why do you trust these people

Chris: Because they have proven themselves in person with their kindness-

MKR: Because they bought you things

Chris: No, that’s only part of…

MKR: That’s the reason though isn’t it

Chris: Not initially! Not initially!

MKR: laughs in disbelief

Chris: They proved it to us without buying anything… initially… that is the truth. Eventually yes, that did come to be – but – they have proven themselves very much without-

MKR: So you’re going to choose them over us, is that how it’s going to go? [...]

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Caden: […] Let me just say, our goal is not to take anything. Our goal is not just to be screwing with Christine. Our goal here is just to make cash with her, as a partnership - right?

MKR: Then why don’t you pay her more?

Caden: We do!

Naught?: That income split is kind of fucked.

Chris: THEY PAID ME 400 BUCKS las- abou- about a few weeks ago! They paid me 400 bucks…

MKR: Out of the $6,000 they made

Caden: Let me just say-

Chris: It didn't.

Caden: Let me just say- Let me just say here, that our relationship with Christine, the friendships and the business side that we have with her, is not intended for- we're not going to move on it. We don't want to - we don't want y'all to think we're trying to take anything from y'all. Right? We don't want to screw around with sides. Because this shouldn't have to be a war.

Chris: You're right.

Caden: Now I understand that there's a lot of animosity here, there's a lot of general discomfort, right?-

Val: Where were we? Before, I uuh... what happened? I was pretty sure I said ”stop fucking lying”.

MKR: Oh well, they're saying that they don't want to take Christine away from us, that the- they're not trying to [unintelligible]

Val:...*laughs* Christine...

Chris: I'm not being taken away from anybody, okay!?

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Val: So- so like, where the fuck does this uh, this whole 'Vaughn'...and uh Miss- Miss whatever her name is. Where does this come into play?

Chris: OH THAT WAS A WHOLE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING

Caden: The Vaughn person is an entirely different person. We have no clue who this idiot is.

24:39 timestamp

Chris: ...his name is Daniel. He lives he most majority lives in virginia. He works at Martha's Vineyard. He trucks around sometimes. He's lived in Vegas. His number was from Vegas and so forth. Freakin' bats. And after we confirmed all that information that we have foreseen...

Val: Confirmed with who? Confirmed with who? Confirmed with who? You said "confirmed the information", with who? Who confirmed that information?

Chris: ... all right, well, Bella...

Val: All right...

Chris: Well, confirmed the information. But don't tell anybody outside this group about that.

Kyle: You know that was leaked a little bit ago.

Chris: But aside from that, I... we... confirmed it now. But she had... she confirmed it. She told us and that allowed us to confirm it, with Mewtwo, with Magi-Chan, and with Christine here.

Still in my body! This is still Sonichu!

29:42 timestamp

Caden: I understand that. Personally, I'd kill for a sheet cake. One of those [Scream in the background] nice vanilla based ones? I just love that. It kills. [Scream continues]

Val: Is Chris like...?

MKR: I don’t know

Val: There was like some shouting or some fucking shit…

MKR: “Maybe Chris ate something spicy and there’s issues to be had; the bathroom’s become a war-room”. [...]

34:00 timestamp

Val: You're a total fucking faggot, Caden.

Caden: Now I'm just ruined.

Val: And you will be. And I garuntee by the end of the night, I’m going to be speaking to your mother and telling how terrible her son is.

Caden: honestly, if you end up getting me a paddling from mommy, I’m going to be so upset.

Val: [laughs] and I hope you should be!

MKR: Honestly I started out trying to be really nice, but you just like started getting like more suspicious and creepy and mean, and I just-

Chris Why do we have to have all this sarcasm and negativity talking shit?

Val: But it's fun! It's a laugh and it's fun, and it's people fucking with people for laughs.

Chris Every time Mr C. picked an argument with Chris, she failed at arguing back.

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clearly and truly putting a taser to the crystal was my own idea and i got it through meditation and seeing it to the future so where where's the ground in that circuit just thinking about it from my electrical perspective well the taser itself is a closed circuit it's all contained within a little box you know it's a handheld zapper we don't use anything that's you know firing any projectiles that's just not only because you keep on erroneously calling it a taser when it's in fact a stun gun well i don't wanna you know bus i don't wanna bust chops over semantics here when i bought it it's a taser on ebay didn't you show a different one no no no no no we're using the exact same ones uh the ones that were listed in the oh you said in the past it was a different one no no it's the same one uh we actually so we bulk ordered them for the original purpose of sale there's 10 of them right now uh depending on how sales initially went we were considering another order of 10 to 20. but oh you know it it's all it's all based off what happens in this next coming month right whatever the case this specific idea i what what i don't understand is i i well i do get why you're concerned about the safety of cwc especially when it comes to the usage of a little zapper like that right but the the at the bottom line is that not only don't downplay it follow yeah stop don't downplay it a little zapper now it's a [ __ ] self-defense instrument oh it's not an instrument of mild irritation well if if you don't want to downplay problems in the past well i well i wouldn't i won't downplay it these things are brutal but if you're using them correctly you have no chance of getting zapped whatsoever and frankly we recognize chris very much well hold on we recognize christine as an adult who can make her own decisions and the fact that she requested one of these tasers we thought that we'd let it happen and we'll continue to let what she requests happen happen unless it's something that's an absolutely out of proportion judgment but we've never ever seen anything like that in our personal experience with her we have full faith in the choices that she's making and if she feels that this taser will bring about this the the dimensional merge then we're more than happy to experiment or at the very least a portal for me to finally get this body to quick fit i really don't think that's gonna work like that well you don't know you can get solar by running electricity through just a regular non soulfully powered quartz because it's a heavily programmed overpowered one that's because it's a distinct electrical instrument using electrical purity quartz with a tolerance of something like 35 ppm and that's for sonar which now presumably some kind of scope or frequency besides the regular electricity from any regular device wouldn't really count i mean wouldn't the electricity coming from your body naturally be the kind that you would need to power such a thing that is one thing yes but it's not it's not tangible from it's not so tangible i mean i wish i could do like a thunder shock from this body and have it before tangible where you can see the parts coming out of these hands or these cheeks but it that's not happening right now at least this may be your training that's not complete the best i can do is show some power is between the uh visions and foresight and the limited select the limit the limited telekinesis and telepathy imo you don't need a you don't need that thing you really don't really need i mean unless you're defending yourself from a predator i don't think so i don't think it's really a gun is more effective in self-defense but that's obviously not what we're talking about here no oh trust me i know all right thank the results were very results were very good and kaden here will vouch for that especially on the before on feeling the gate crystal and then after sensing the gay crystal and the boosted energy that came out of it you got you got extensive experience chasing yourself caden well you know i've zapped myself a couple of times i wouldn't sell something if i didn't know what it felt like and uh it doesn't feel good i'll tell you that i've seen i've i've seen uh i've seen the one you've mentioned and uh yeah that seems like a lot to subject anyone to it's a little rough it's a little rough around the edges oh yeah maybe you're sure i'm sure that's why they sell it because it's a little rough oh it's a little just to prove that it's only a little rough yeah well well but we'll consider you shove it up your ass you see how rough you like thinking of uh we were thinking of a demonstration if we could find the willing participant well you know we're we're looking well apparently you're willing participants do it now well i guess you'll have to take my word for it on this one i can't take your word for anything because you're a freaking pathological liar caden no these words were jack and [ __ ] that is worth that is downright hurtful first of all yeah are you when you're sarcastic yeah i should feel very sorry for you oh poor kayden to call him a pathological liar because he is not chris he is a pathological liar i appreciate you defending me christine but uh like i again i feel very certain that there's not there's not a lot we can do to kind of turn around that kind of view on us now we'll accept it because again we let me reiterate i understand that you know y'all y'all have your concerns for christine and it is a genuinely good thing however at the end of the day we're partnered with her not with y'all we we we're in this discord group just just because we were invited here but again we you know what what happens what what happens between us and christine we're going to attempt to keep it you know when it comes down to final judgments between us and christine right now if if you'd like to join us we'd be happy to have you but i have a strange feeling that none of y'all are feeling that kind of movement what would that intend how would i join you uh press x to do well i mean you could well for well first of all before you go hitting those x's i mean there's a ton of ways you could join us i mean uh firstly i like to start with a warm handshake caden caden um but thanks for the uh offering though regardless we've got you all right continue oh no i think i i i think i i think i said my piece there you know i just wanna yeah because you know that i live across the country from you well listen listen aside from the zapper right the taser the stun gun whichever way you want to phrase it again aside from that you know because again it does not look like we're going to be really moving on that kind of of a position not the split hairs or anything you know but but what what other grievances do y'all have that we that we can try and address as best we can this is a fairly major one which ones is it which one's a fairly major one no this one well again i i don't really think that either of us are really in our positions uh this isn't about like this isn't about any of uh my feelings or anything you do understand how this looks to uh not even outsiders but just people who are watching so what do you mean by people who are watching uh the people who for want for a better term support chris well i mean we frankly are not here to either gain fans or anything we're here simply i mean we are what we are we're salesmen you know yeah yeah yeah we're just selling regulations with chris that's the best that we can that's the best that we can do yes and as a result of that or hello yeah okay yeah kaden is the salesman but the other members of of of our group here uh you know uh you know kayden uh owen bell and annabelle and cabell anyway um but yeah we have genuine we have a couple of genuine psychic types and they no i'm sorry yeah i'm sorry chris you missed the other like seven other members there's a prey tour said that oh sorry who's this uh who am i speaking to is this caden who's this yeah this one's kaden oh yeah sure sure do do the stupid [ __ ] gay voice i don't [ __ ] care oh god it's just one fake accent like like do it it doesn't [ __ ] matter of which one of the 13 other members am i speaking to well this one here is kaden i mean if if you want to speak to the others you'd have to go check out our other projects but as of now are you telling me i'm going to have to sign up to their only fans to speak to them speak to that that is one very productive project that we happen to have we're very pleased on that one we you should consider subscribing [Laughter] is my [ __ ] good enough is my [ __ ] goodness oh but you know i could i could i could for sure take a peek you can take a peek i could take a piece so so what are we arguing about at the moment like like what [ __ ] are people flinging at the moment what do you mean like what what do you mean what [ __ ] are people flinging at us like uh like what what do you mean the uh any of it i don't know like any of it like what [ __ ] does your totally real company have oh yeah that too well again what we want to what we want to run past y'all is our no i don't care i i don't care about your gay [ __ ] like i want to make a buck off chris yeah do that that's fine what [ __ ] is being flung well there is no [ __ ] being flung right now so far it's daisies so i don't get why is there a problem that's what's going on look what appears to be going on which again i fully understand i fully understand i really do is that like there is a major major suspicion cloud that follows us that everything that we're doing is with an end goal that is negative to cwc and we we understand that suspicion entirely i mean the track record behind the anybody who does what we do is a [ __ ] mile long all the way back to 2009 but i assure you the reason why that we have been more successful monetarily than anyone else's because we're not here for malevolent reasons oh that's terrible um you're implying that uh a lot of the people who have dealt with cwc have been in it for monetary gains there's lots of implications that's a fact yeah well sorry yeah that's a fact but there's lots of people that have been uh involved the cwc as you call him um they could have made a buck off him but they didn't because they cared and i guess it's like so so uh i guess pray towards stance or they don't care they just want to make a buck well it it seems to us that no i mean if you didn't if you'd if this plan has been working out fantastically if you haven't made it yeah i didn't know he's made a smart enough movie the smartest move shut the [ __ ] up and shut the [ __ ] up and listen now this the smartest shut the [ __ ] up and listen shut the [ __ ] up and listen and listen to anyone shut the [ __ ] up and listen like i've said it like five times now and you have now listen hold on now we're listening we're listening hurry on talking shut the [ __ ] up and listen no please go ahead please let them talk there's been there's been lots and lots of people that could have made a bug of chris they didn't why why didn't they well because they weren't smart enough do you really believe that actually that's a valid statement right there especially we recognized the value of partnering with cwc we recognize the value of her talent and what she brings to the board and by doing that we've profited now i understand the controversy we've raised but frankly we we don't intend on really moving that much we're very pleased with where we are right now if you have a grievances we're happy to hear them and we love feedback you know regardless of how much it hurts us but we interact just uh interact with the retards who buy [ __ ] i i think it's that simple what i said earlier you know if you want to be a businessman or whatever interact with people keep the optics up and that's pretty much it that's what that's our intentions that's our intentions so any anything further yeah does anyone else have anything to discuss with uh pray with me no i don't want i don't know i don't want to get pissed on until it's raining no chris why why do you trust these people because they have proven themselves in person but they're kind of because they bought you things no that's the reason though isn't it that not initially not initially they proved that to us without buying us anything okay not in the initially that is the truth eventually yes that did come to be but they have proven themselves very very much so you're going to choose them over us is that how this is going to go now don't try and make this a division thing we're just here we don't want to have to feel like we're picking sides or anything well i think you pick sides earlier i mean besides which between let me let me just say let me just say where our our goal is not to take anything our goal is not to be you know just screwing with christine our goal here is just to make cash with her as a partnership right now why don't you pay her more we do an income split is kind of funny 400 yeah it really is about a few weeks ago they paid me 400 bucks we're doing this 6 000 they made let me just say let me just say let me just say here that our relationship with christine the friendships and the business side that we have with her is not intended for we're not going to move on it you know we don't want to we don't want to take any we don't want you all to think that we're trying to take anything from y'all right we don't want to screw around with sides because this shouldn't have to be a war right now i i understand that you know that there's a lot of animosity there's a lot of animosity here there's a lot of uh general just it's discomfort right where were we before i uh what happened i'm pretty sure i was saying uh stop [ __ ] lying oh well they're saying they don't want to take uh christine away from us that uh they're not trying to this is not christian being taken away from anybody okay no oh all i'm saying is uh hey and i said it i said this before this uh this whole conversation uh began uh what did i say to you cwc don't [ __ ] trust them one [ __ ] bit make a buck off them but don't trust them oh good grief spunk you're not thou you channel vows sometimes but he acts independently and you act independently by the way how's that old lady did you tend to in the hospital lately what sorry the ect one yesterday the who sorry do you remember val the the constant uh electroshock therapy one oh yeah the uh yep um she's doing totally fine and she's brilliant and one of the most amazing people i've ever spoken to okay like she's lovely ah at least ten percent of the time now pray now caden i need to let you know because here's the thing you know there's a reason why people on the internet no matter who you talk to tend to criticize those who make money off of chris right in any shape or form right you know there's a reason for that well most of the time people assume that this whole money-making scheme is simply based in enablement oh this is where we are like i don't give a [ __ ] about this like whole gay [ __ ] it's like a well if if you don't if you don't give a [ __ ] my friend then then what are you worried about if nothing has been wrecked or or [ __ ] around oh yeah this is what we are like old i mean my internet died and i missed like i guess the past uh like 10 minutes worth of conversation so you have to like dial it way way back to like 10 minutes ago just for me do it just for me what's happening well we've got your back my friend allow me to elucidate the uh well i'm trying to think of a of of a nicer way to pick around this right but at the very core we're you know we're still in the same place of mistrust there's there's not really been any movement you know which there's no movement on on my things like make a buck off c c make a buck off him oh that's where we were oh that's where we were there has been 10 people that could have made a buck off cwc but they didn't and you thinking you're the first person to do it maybe those people could have but chose not to right oh of course of course it's a personal choice yeah yeah i guess it might have been a personal choice for those people but yeah ethics is totally personal yes but then then it comes down to an ethics thing doesn't it like do you make a buck off cwc but what is unethical about our partnership with cwc i don't know i don't i'm trying to rewind back like to the past 10 minutes ago i'm trying to you have this like little spot and uh carry on please uh what what i'm trying to say is if we haven't taken anything from cwc if we haven't been violent or rude or mean if all we've done is pay them then what negative outcome has any of this had that's right uh defense implements seem to argue i mean it just it just really is it's like and at least in uh in my opinion it's it's as simple as that we're not here to [ __ ] around that much at all we're here to just make it out so like where the [ __ ] does this uh this whole avon and uh miss miss whatever her name is where does this come into play that was a whole totally different thing the vaughan person is an entirely different person we have no clue who this idiot is all we know is that so has so as chris relayed to you the uh the stuff about like the the wine that they left all that [ __ ] uh possibly okay well just just to recap vaughn had a courier some guy in the rutgersville area drop off a big basket of goodies at chris's door along with a very very cryptic note claiming that what was it what was it christine they that you needed to contact them with a yes or no about joining their cult by march 10th or something like that yeah something like that and also also getting content with a bunch of people that to me was random but to them was definitely like oh yeah we just drew their names out ahead so i've been like hey tell chris they oh yeah that's like that's my excites you talk to them all over the place and be and be offending more people like like chris used to then back then but obviously that's not going to happen these days i mean even though i even though i did end up doing only because magic chant till made the suggestion that i do that just a few times in order to move this lawn just to humor the guy so we can eventually get the information out of him and finally find out that he's his name is daniel he lives he most majority lives in virginia he works at martha's vineyard he trucks around sometimes he's lived in vegas his number was from vegas and so forth freaking bats are [ __ ] moving and after we confirmed all that information that we have foreseen confirmed with who confirmed with who confirmed with who said confirmed the information with who who confirmed that information all right well bella all right well confirmed the information but don't tell anybody outside this group about that you know that was leaked a little bit but aside from that i we confirmed it now but she had she confirmed it she told us and that allowed us to confirm it with mewtwo with magic and with christine here still in my body this is still sonic you probably have seen one nice i haven't talking here [Music] could seem like some controlled opposition given that even i had a difficult time tracking down anything and i'm a whole lot better than someone who dropped out of [ __ ] art college i did not you megan you're great oh i didn't drop out my uh never mind that's that's a different story we were making jokes we were making jokes about [ __ ] megan right yeah but anyway the whole thing the whole thing with danny boy there that's done done over with we made an example out of hymns in the world and the other trolls that he's facing he hasn't his consequences for just basically wanting attention all over the place well not appreciating his wife and child at home freaking furry with big breasts and all that oh holy crap so from now on we need to look to praetor for information well information on what well information just any this where applicable and possible we're happy to help you all whenever we can yeah oh no you love conspiracy theories uh what do you think about uh controlled opposition i'm going to take a moment to use a toilet be right back okay special continue on at least i'd be should slinky start a fake argument just to like make some noise until we get back what's a what's a frighteningly controversial topic you got in the on how do you feel about neapolitan ice cream only the uh [Laughter] only the two difficult discussions it's not it's not even a difficult one it's not even difficult i just had to picture a neapolitan ice cream and i had to pick the two whitest ones it's not even hard like it's not even hard i just had to go the the pink and the white one were good [ __ ] right it always ends up yeah like you you put a neapolitan ice cream like tub the brown's always the last one to eat really see i i i'm i'm a fan of all three but i i personally feel that strawberry is a slept on flavor no one nobody gets it it's a watch it's a slept on flavor you know people just yeah no i know gets eaten first strawberry second and brown just gets chucked in the bin really that much against that much against chocolate i'm so racist ice cream oh shoot we were trying to bring race into our perspective i personally don't like strawberry in my cake then your cake no now how do you feel about ice cream cake versus a normal cake i just prefer them to be separated but that's just i understand that personally i i'd kill for a sheet cake you know one of those nice vanilla based ones i just love that kills he's chris like i don't know i mean there was like some shouting or some [ __ ] [ __ ] maybe chris ate something spicy now there's issues to be had the bathrooms become a war room maybe you heard that you throw out the chocolate part of neapolitan ice cream maybe maybe i don't get what the [ __ ] problem is i don't get why why everyone's [ __ ] arguing over [ __ ] i'll throw i will throw [ __ ] into the uh into the ship pile it's just it's i don't really understand why we what is the problem we understand suspicion but we again don't want to be caught you sit there and say win you sit there and say weave like who the [ __ ] is we don't understand i'm just see i'm just personally i'm just one guy but i just use we to try and refer to the collective of praetor as an idea you know just cause like when people when people hear about this whole thing going on they don't think [ __ ] kaden they think [ __ ] prater right so i just use it as a collective phrase right but what oh wait hold on what's that oh no i don't i want to [ __ ] throw that in there god damn no i don't know throw it in there throw it in there don't duck the [ __ ] out he said so let's do it like do it controversial statements about neapolitan ice cream i don't want it i don't want to get too i don't really i'm just saying i'm just saying we don't want to we don't want to throw more [ __ ] in on the stink pile you know are you telling me the the praetor prefers chocolate ice cream well now now don't put such vile words in our mouth i'm more going i'm more saying that chocolate is not the best ice cream but it doesn't deserve to be bin food you know it's like i'd still take a scoop of it but if i had a vanilla and strawberry in front of me i'd much prefer those i think if there's like any kind of like really bad ice cream flavor i don't think i've actually had it you know unless it's like freezer burnt but that's not even a flavor that's about quality tiger tail kind of sucks tiger tail what kind is that true what the bane flavor is but it's it's got black licorice in it black licorice that's controversial that's controversial the most controversial as red licorice especially since that's sheets exclusive flavor for g fuel what are your thoughts on twizzlers they're okay they're pretty good really and to me the uh the red licorice g fuel actually tastes pretty good but it's not one i would have on the constant i like biting the ends off and using them as straws that actually works but but it's all dependent like what do you drink out of it like what do you drink out of it because if it's something like if it's something norm if it's something like sweet i feel like that's excusable like soda or something but if you're like water or if you're sipping like water or milk i i would cry i'd sob openly [ __ ] idiot drinks milk through a twizzler i thought that's what i'm that's it's probably going up the other end isn't it it is i'm shoving up my [ __ ] right now so so y'all actually i've got to go ahead and go i've got to go ahead and go but you know i i want to apologize for what happened earlier i did i did get a little heated you know a little bit of sarcasm getting thrown around there you know sorry about that again we don't want to [ __ ] stir up trouble when they're done oh no no you're a total [ __ ] [ __ ] caden you're a total [ __ ] [ __ ] caden right now i'm just like no i and you will be and i guarantee you you will be at least this uh situation merits being i gary i guarantee you by the end of the night i'm going to be speaking to your mother and telling you how terrible her son is honestly if you end up getting me a paddling from mommy i'm going to be so upset i hope you should be honestly i started out trying to be really nice getting more and more suspicious and creepy and mean and why do we have to have all this sarcasm and negativity talking [ __ ] all right but it's fun like yo i mean [ __ ] fast it's a lot like it's a laugh and it's fun like it's people [ __ ] with people for laughs yeah every time mr c picked an argument like chris she failed at arguing back at the very at the very heart of what is funny like are you joking like do you do you not think how like it's funny arguing over neapolitan ice cream do you not get that like it's funny arguing over nothing period oh most arguments are literally trivial and nonsense they don't need to yeah yeah but do you not understand that it can like you can have a funny argument where people like pretend to be one side of an argument and to pretend to be the other side we're we're trying to break the discourse because discourse it's like it's it's like oh oh [ __ ] you prato [ __ ] you kaden and what would you say back well i would just say now has a racial bias against brown ice cream i have i have a terrible racial bias against ice cream like it's fun you know like like it like it's fun like none of this has been aggressive like at all it's all been a laugh i just like unfortunately i wish it was a racial serious and like actually talk to us like you never actually talk to us and we'll like at you and we'll be like hey how are you doing or how did it go and you'll just ignore us and you'll be online and we know that you see it but you'll just ignore us working around all [ __ ] hours it's so boring all i can say all i can say this okay kaden listen listen very closely and i want you to know this if you do not consent any of us ahead of time without warning you will regret this and you'll regret this sooner than you think [ __ ] up cap no you should probably talk to josh hold on hold on i regret this what do you mean what do you what do you mean uh like cons like consent what do you mean by that you wha what do i what do you need from me here and actually talk things through and supposed to just agree with whatever your stupid brain comes up with just give us a heads up no it's no it's just like just be funny like just be funny that's all i want to do and you've done i and hayden whatever you want to be uh known as you've done the funny for me personally you've made me laugh and i hope i made you laugh as well you did you did so so it's like never never looked funny chocolate parts of the cream again no that's it chuck it in the bin chuck it in the bin mate or or sell it to somebody because we could bottle it and put it on the etsy just make it funny just be funny and the problem is like praetor like sits there and tries to be like this super secret society that makes a buck off chris and doesn't want anything to do with anyone else it's like i mean personally i think you've done well like you've made me laugh at least well you get a pass i appreciate it you get a pass from me well i mean not to again you know we we had a we had a good we had a good banter rolling here and not to get too sappy but you're you're not you're not such a bad guy yourself now we we appreciate you no problem no problem well listen i you know i i appreciate the talk and i'll be and if if more participation like within chat and with stuff you know just being less of a lurker if y'all are looking for that that's perfectly fine i'd be happy to start that's literally anyone any of us what is more interaction like yeah i see it well if if more interaction is what you want i'd be there that's not a problem uh i that i that'll consent to i'll swing by a lot more often i'm sorry about the kind of disconnect here right because i think that's what most of this is born out of is just a disconnect yeah but there but there's also like the horrible amounts of like uh sake [ __ ] you put through to people like in dms and stuff oh no there is [ __ ] horrible like it's not nice at all just like just be nice you know just be nice i do my best should i do my best no no but you don't you sit there and you better you're like oh [ __ ] you mkr and uh i'll speak to anyone but mkr it's like oh [ __ ] you like why be a [ __ ] about it like just just be funny you know just be funny we used to feel negatively towards mkr but our thoughts have changed once we learned that she does not in fact drink milk through twizzlers that she did she resigned to herself [Laughter] mkr consider this an official apology from you know official i don't even want an official apology i want a written apology anymore i don't want to hear you speaking [ __ ] i don't want any more [ __ ] shut up shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ] up i don't want any more i don't want you to stop speaking please i want a written apology i'm sorry mkr about the twizzlers i'm sorry milk and twizzlers yeah no i want it written like i want you to type it out type it out in the place school child type type it out say i i am sorry in chaos that's all it take that's all it takes to please y'all give me one that's it yeah that's it please let me hold on i need like classic classical music or something put on the simpsons despite everything that's it and all the yelling i'm glad that we can all actually release reach to a good at a positive outcome i feel a little better hearing that apologize i do i do my dearest mkr you want me to read it out shall i read it out so far the danger is concerned now the argument shall i do an anglo uh should i do an anglo reading of it you got a pretty good narrator's voice swing it by us go hold on i'm taking a bit here i'm taking a bit here do the voice please well we all want to get drunk one night i can do it in the fill voice if you want yeah i mean there's multiple voices ready to go megan can do it too yes [ __ ] okay written apology to mkr and uh by the looks of it working on it's been written it's been written but it's been written too long like i think you're well i i can't you're taking too long to write it you're taking too long to write it just write it your caveman fingers you've uh like you've smashed like you've got the few guys on the keyboard from the simpsons yes the darling let's get the darling one down when's amber gonna get one of those a long time from now it's a ham hock tap situation i'm telling you if you take this long uh hayden hayden is that right i is like the pr guy for pratal is that right is this what i'm getting at that's close enough yeah yeah yeah he's still typing out terry davis i'm telling you if you take this long to post it i mean it better be funny and if it's not funny i'll delete it and make you rewrite it again if i slap i love you at the end is that too much or is that what do you think uh just don't be a [ __ ] like i want a genuine apology be serious just be serious of course sirius is our middle name right next to kevin right hold on nearly done here for sincerity and actually could someone really quick run past me how to spell sincerely i appear to have totally botched that i know how i know how to spell it take it away [Music] e no r e r it's in chat another one thank you mkr do you accept our apology empire please we're back no no not one [ __ ] bit what why the [ __ ] would that ever i mean it's not a real apology but now i'm obsessed yeah well we do what we can we do what we can i probably should have i proud i probably should have left here a while ago we you know we hope that at least some things were at least semi-solved uh i no i don't think they were like that's all they were do i think anything at all was ever solved not even in the slightest not even what are you gonna do the uh the testing video you promised the testing video can cwc uh like tase himself on video for lolz well what i'd volunteer what what i said in serious and a joke i would look are you sure though like we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea are you we'll talk about this later okay oh no no i really gotta go before we make any rash decisions that involve cwc being zapped obviously but i mean this body is part of electricity literally so i could take it if you wanted to test it rip the piece of electrics out of a barbecue lighter i feel like i feel control over the current like a lighter battery might be kind of bad like i don't know where's this piece of electrics like what i mean if if you're gonna do it do it [ __ ] right lad that's all i'm gonna say we'll cross the bridges when we come here for now we must bid you good night we love you all have a pleasant one have a good one hopefully we'll have your circumstances all right i've had enough myself and i'll see you all later i'll talk to y'all another time good night all right see ya chris all right so stop recording should i stop recording yes okay

Analysis

Some Watchmen members complain about Chris's recent payout from Praetor. When Chris brings up that he was paid $400, MKRNightVee objects that Praetor made $6,000. However, the $6,000 figure is revenue, derived from Naught multiplying the OfficialCWCmart price of a Praetor-made medallion by the amount of sales. Without Praetor's expenses known, it is unclear how fair Chris's payout was.

In Virginia, you can legally own a taser without a permit, unless you were convicted of a felony (not to be confused with a misdemeanor). This can come as a bit of a shock to readers from some countries like Germany and the United Kingdom, where even the police must have a good reason to use one.