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{{protip|The CWCki continues to refer to Christian only by his [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|true, original gender]] and [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|GodBear-given name]], to keep consistent to [[Sagas#Classic Chris Era|classical]] records.}}


[[File:TrueAndHonestChristineChandler.png|thumb|What Chris might've actually looked like if he was born a womanchild]]
{{quote|When I feel like totally grossed out with even an image of a penis, and recalling and focusing on a vagina image in my mind usually works|Chris<ref>[[Misc texts#Desiree Delightful]]</ref>}}
 
[[File:CWC gets kicked.jpg|thumb|Chris's gender issues in a nutshell.]]


Similar to [[Chris and religion|the topic of faith]] and [[Chris and kindness#Chris is Good-Natured?|the topic of morality]], Chris's actual beliefs on '''gender''' and how it is classified are more complex than his stated beliefs. For someone so preoccupied with gender identity, Chris displays a staggering ignorance of how either gender typically behaves, and his views of both genders are extremely warped due to him taking the stereotypes he is presented with in [[Chris and television|television]] and [[music]] [[Autism|at face value]].  
Similar to [[Chris and religion|the topic of faith]] and [[Chris and kindness#Chris is Good-Natured?|the topic of morality]], Chris's actual beliefs on '''gender''' and how it is classified are more complex than his stated beliefs. For someone so preoccupied with gender identity, Chris displays a staggering ignorance of how either gender typically behaves, and his views of both genders are extremely warped due to him taking the stereotypes he is presented with in [[Chris and television|television]] and [[music]] [[Autism|at face value]].  


== Females ==
== Females ==
 
{{See also|Women's rights}}
Chris repeatedly asserts his reverence of women, and seems to have a comparatively glowing opinion of them, stating that he finds women "empathetic". But, as stated at the beginning of the article, the truth is more complicated. While Chris has [[Chris and socialization|always preferred female friends]], and is known to be far more accommodating of [[Chris and sexuality|lesbians than gay men]], even going so far as to [[Chris and reality|identify as one himself]], in truth, Chris has a distinctly sexist view of [[Women's rights|women]]. Based on his failed attempts at getting girls at the mall, Chris views females as [[Sex tape|hyper-sexual]], [[Mall|preoccupied with shopping]], [[Animal Crossing Documentary|given to conversing with others for hours]], and fixated on [[PlayingHouse|getting married and having children]]. This is highly evident in his female characters in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''. As a matter of fact, In [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], he referred to women as another species. This seems to be hyperbole, but considering Chris' abysmal knowledge of the sciences, it is difficult to be sure. [[Rosechu (character)|His Rosechu character]] who is a living embodiment of how Chris believes all women behave, has a "personality" which consists solely of the traits listed above, which is considered ironic as Chris constantly tries to show Rosechu with a passion for [[Women's rights|Women's Rights]]. Despite trying to portray them as being equal in power to their [[Sonichu (species)|male counterparts]], Chris rarely depicts [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] fighting, more often simply leaving them on the sidelines of a battle to wail like damsels in distress, even when their boyfriends are in mortal danger. Even outside battle, they tend to be little more than organic sex toys for the Sonichus.
Chris repeatedly asserts his reverence of women, and seems to have a comparatively glowing opinion of them, stating that he finds women "empathetic". But, as stated at the beginning of the article, the truth is more complicated. While Chris has [[Chris and socialization|always preferred female friends]], and is known to be far more accommodating of [[Chris and sexuality|lesbians than gay men]], even going so far as to [[Chris and reality|identify as one himself]], in truth, Chris has a distinctly sexist view of [[Women's rights|women]]. Based on his failed attempts at getting girls at the mall, Chris views females as [[Sex tape|hyper-sexual]], [[Mall|preoccupied with shopping]], [[Animal Crossing Documentary|given to conversing with others for hours]], and fixated on [[PlayingHouse|getting married and having children]]. This is highly evident in his female characters in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''. As a matter of fact, In [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], he referred to women as another species. This seems to be hyperbole, but considering Chris' abysmal knowledge of the sciences, it is difficult to be sure. [[Rosechu (character)|His Rosechu character]] who is a living embodiment of how Chris believes all women behave, has a "personality" which consists solely of the traits listed above, which is considered ironic as Chris constantly tries to show Rosechu with a passion for [[Women's rights|Women's Rights]]. Despite trying to portray them as being equal in power to their [[Sonichu (species)|male counterparts]], Chris rarely depicts [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] fighting, more often simply leaving them on the sidelines of a battle to wail like damsels in distress, even when their boyfriends are in mortal danger. Even outside battle, they tend to be little more than organic sex toys for the Sonichus.


== Males ==
== Males ==
{{Main|JERKS}}
Chris has harbored a deep hatred for [[JERKS|men]] ever since his teenage years, because he was bullied in grade school (largely because of his bloated [[ego]] making him extremely annoying to be around), not to mention the fact that Chris is known to fly into fits of [[Chris and his ego|jealous]] [[Chris and anger|rage]] whenever he sees [[Liquid Chris|a man more successful than him]], especially if [[Clyde Cash|that]] [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|man]] [[Wes Iseli|is getting some]] and he isn't. This gradually blossomed into a general distaste for masculine traits such as body [[hair]]; indeed, in his [[nudes]] it is apparent that he is surprisingly meticulous in shaving his body hair, certainly compared to [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|other aspects of grooming]]. He also has stated, as shown in this [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|video]], a disgust for "topless men" and [[Brassieres For Males|encourages men]] to wear [[muscle bra]]s so he doesn't have to see their nipples. He even made a (now outdated) short list of the men he doesn't consider "jerks", which included himself, his [[Bob Chandler|father]] and [[Santa Clause]] ''<nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Chris and English|sic]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>''. Chris's misandry continued after identifying as a "tomgirl"; he has variously referred to men in general as "barbarians" and "Neanderthals", which, coming from him, are rather ironic accusations for [[Death threats|a]] [[14 Branchland Court|number]] [[Chris and racism|of]] [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|reasons]].
Chris has since relaxed his former misandric attitude and no longer takes issue with the company of men.


Chris has harbored a deep hatred for [[JERKS|men]] ever since his teenage years, because he was bullied in grade school (largely because of his bloated [[ego]] making him extremely annoying to be around), not to mention the fact that Chris is known to fly into fits of [[Chris and his ego|jealous]] [[Chris and anger|rage]] whenever he sees [[Liquid Chris|a man more successful than him]], especially if [[Clyde Cash|that]] [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|man]] [[Wes Iseli|is getting some]] and he isn't. This gradually blossomed into a general distaste for masculine traits such as body [[hair]]; indeed, in his [[nudes]] it is apparent that he is surprisingly meticulous in shaving his body hair, certainly compared to [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|other aspects of grooming]]. He also has stated, as shown in this [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|video]], a disgust for "topless men" and [[Brassieres For Males|encourages men]] to wear [[muscle bra]]s so he doesn't have to see their nipples. He even made a (now somewhat outdated) short list of the men he doesn't consider "jerks", which included himself, his [[Bob Chandler|father]] and [[Santa Clause]] ''<nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Chris and English|sic]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>''.
== Transvestism and transgenderism ==
{{main|Transgender}}
It has been speculated for a long time that Chris has gender issues, confirmed in 2016 when he was diagnosed with gender identity disorder.<ref name=psychologist>Chris changed the gender marker on his driver's license to identify him as female in 2016. The procedure to do this in Virginia is to have a professional whose "practice includes the treatment and counseling of persons with gender identity issues" vouch for the person's gender identity on [https://web.archive.org/web/20161223001047/https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/pdf/dl17.pdf this form].</ref> In 2005, he created [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal Weston Chandler]], a female version of himself. In [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE]], he mentioned that you should try out the opposite gender's toys while keeping your original gender in mind, possibly indicating that he may have been in denial about transgenderism long before becoming a tomgirl. He also wondered what he would be like if he were born a female.<ref>[[Mailbag 27]] - Is Chris hitting on Bailey Jay?</ref>


Since becoming a "tomgirl", Chris's misandry has not abated. In recent years he has variously referred to men in general as "barbarians" and "Neanderthals", which, coming from him, are rather ironic accusations for [[Death threats|a]] [[14 Branchland Court|number]] [[Chris and racism|of]] [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|reasons]].
Chris spent many years struggling to articulate his position on transgender topics. Prior to his own exploration of transgenderism, he confessed that he was uncomfortable with the idea of transgender people, and made it clear that he was not sexually attracted to them.<ref>[[Mailbag 39#Shemales and man-tits]]</ref> “I have given thought about the transgenders and transvesites; I do not feel comfortable with them….[D]icks are dicks, and I do not care about them, except for my own,” he wrote in a [[January 2009]] chat.<ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref>  He later reiterated: “I Do Not Care Much for Transgender People or Hermaphrodites, but I do not discriminate them as individual people.”<ref>[[Mailbag 26#Reusing the same excuses for everything else!]]</ref>


== Transvestism and transgenderism ==
Responding to a troll impersonating the transgender [[Wikipedia:Bailey Jay|Bailey Jay]], Chris wrote, "I can relate to how you feel. Sometimes, I wonder what my life would be like if I was born female instead, because of some of my emotional, caring, self-conscious thoughts I had in my lifetime. Then I would later remember that God must have made me all straight male for good reasons."<ref>[[Mailbag 25#It's a trap!]] and [[Mailbag 27#Is Chris hitting on Bailey Jay?]]</ref>  
It has been speculated for a long time that Chris has had gender issues. In 2005, he created [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal Weston Chandler]], which is widely believed to be a result of his autogynephilia, the fetish of seeing oneself as female. In [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE]], he mentioned that you should try out the opposite gender's toys while keeping your original gender in mind, possibly indicating that he may have been in denial about transgenderism long before becoming a tomgirl. He also wondered what he would be like if he were born a female.<ref>[[Mailbag 27]] - Is Chris hitting on Bailey Jay?</ref>


In April 2011, [[Tomgirl Pictures|photos]] were leaked by [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] showing Chris dressed in women's clothes. Soon after Chris announced he was a "Tomgirl". Chris being a tomgirl has resulted in him wearing [[Chris and fashion#Chris's Tomgirl Fashion Sense|feminine clothes]], a brief attempt at [[Un-clit|piercing his taint]], and growing long hair. Despite this, Chris still rigidly maintains he is attracted solely to women.
[[Image:ChrisChan Twt Bio from 4-20-21.jpg|thumb|left|Chris's current twitter bio as of 2021.]]


There is still speculation as to why he has done this. Chris may have believed that joining the female community would aid his Love Quest, which naturally it hasn't, and indeed, any sensible person can see that identifying as a lesbian actually shrinks his pool of potential sweethearts, given that lesbians are a minority group.
In [[2014]] Chris came out as a "'''lesbian-identified male'''" before identifying as a "'''trans woman'''". After transitioning, Chris adopted the name '''Christine''' to accompany his new gender identity along with the corresponding personal pronouns.


However, Chris has recently made several telling statements that indicate he believes that he can use his gender confusion to his advantage. For example, on various occasions, Chris has made statements to the effect of him being [[Chris and reality|"compatible with all women"]], or that he can [[HelloLadyFans|"go any way [a woman] desire[s]"]]. Statements like these show that he believes that by identifying as a female while remaining biologically male he can appeal to women of all sexualities, although it remains unclear if this is his main reason for crossdressing, or indeed whether it was a premeditated reason for it at all, or merely an idea he came up with later. This too is pure folly; a willingness to date folks with penises is hardly a given among lesbians, and most straight women would be put off by Chris's crossdressing. Not to mention that both lesbian and straight women alike would probably be put off by the sheer desperation he displays in essentially saying that he'd be willing to change genders just to get laid, and that's without even considering the squalor he lives in, his bizarre, unkempt appearance, or his many personality flaws.
In [[2019]] Chris updated his Twitter to reaffirm his gender pronouns.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1084516261097279488</ref>
{{quotebox|Also, I Am Female; please address and talk about me with the correct Pronouns. She/Her/Hers.


Chris also may have done this in hopes that trolls would stop suggesting he likes "[[Homos|the wrong gender]]". Some just believe Chris has been [[TRUE and HONEST]] and has always felt this way, despite little evidence. Regardless of the reason, the Tomgirl Saga has continued to this day. Despite being self-described as a "lesbian in a male body", and even showing off pictures of him slapping Human Rights Campaign stickers all over his [[Son-Chu|car]], Chris still seems to be rendered very uncomfortable by gay men, although he has slowly backed down from his bigotry towards them, possibly recognizing that his disdain for them is irrational even by his standards.
Thank You. 😊}}


However, being transgender does not stop him from prejudice against other transgenders; during his quest against [[Jeff/Francine]], who is also trans, Chris calls her a "pretty little lady-man", a "he-she", and even "Mistress Jeff" showing that even years into his transformation into a Tomgirl, Chris is still Chris.
As of 28 [[September 2020]], Chris's [[Twitter]] includes a pinned tweet reiterating that he is "Female" and uses she/her/hers pronouns. His twitter biography also refers to himself as [[Polyamorous marriage|Mrs. Christine W. Chandler Sonichu]] and continues to emphasize the use of she/her/hers pronouns.
<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1310653174462717952</ref>
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==Non-binary genders==
==Non-binary genders==
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{{quote|"I really did not know how many genders there are, but I am not and do not judge. Have a good day."|Chris' beliefs on Non-Binary Genders}}  
{{quote|"I really did not know how many genders there are, but I am not and do not judge. Have a good day."|Chris' beliefs on Non-Binary Genders}}  


Given how complicated of a topic gender is to tackle, especially today, people will tend to argue about what classifies as a "gender" and therefore some people might argue that there exists more than two. In Chris' case, believing everything he sees without giving it a second thought, also concluded that there really are more than two genders simply looking at a Facebook post about how Facebook is allowing their users to identify themselves as 58 different genders on September 17, 2016, [[Autism|taking it to mean that there are in fact 58 genders]]. <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-9-17-chris-on-fb-genders.24327/</ref> The next month, Chris is interviewed on the same topic, and is asked how many genders there are, and simply says there are 58 all because of that same Facebook post. <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-9-17-chris-on-fb-genders.24327/page-10#post-1804218</ref>
Given how complicated of a topic gender is to tackle, especially today, people will tend to argue about what classifies as a "gender" and therefore some people might argue that there exists more than two. In Chris' case, believing everything he sees without giving it a second thought, also concluded that there really are more than two genders simply looking at a Facebook post about how Facebook is allowing their users to identify themselves as 58 different genders on September 17, 2016, [[Naïve|taking it to mean that there are in fact 58 genders]]. <ref>https://archive.md/H42cq</ref> The next month, Chris is interviewed on the same topic, and is asked how many genders there are, and simply says there are 58 all because of that same Facebook post. <ref>https://archive.md/wi10r</ref>
 
==In the comic==
 
[[File:Christinecomicdrawing.jpg|200px|thumb]]
[[File:CCSonichu1.jpg|200px|thumb|ELECTRIC SEX CHANGE POWER! PEW!]]
 
Chris, already conflicting with his own gender identity, also decided to give his avatar in the Sonichu comics the same exact characteristic since [[Sonichu 11]]. Once again, despite looking completely different from his real-life counterpart, decides to draw his avatar with the traits he's always desired since becoming a tomgirl, such as bigger breasts and wider hips, revealing very much of what kind of results Chris wishes to get simply from watching [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] on [[Youtube]] instead of saving up his [[money]] to get a sex change.
 
Likewise, Chris decided to change his [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] form to a female Sonichu form. The only real difference between Chris' old form and his new form is that his newer form has added breasts; a functioning vagina, uterus, and ovum; eyelashes; the trademark female Pikachu tail; and the color of his shoes change from black and white to turquoise and lime green. At this point in time, Chris-Chan Sonichu's species is highly questionable, given how Chris never implied that his new form was, in fact, a [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechu]], and instead refers to it as simply a "female Sonichu form", and the character is still called Chris-Chan Sonichu. Even though Chris has suggested renaming the character "Chrissy-Chan Roeschu", it still begs the question as to why Chris hasn't decided to make his new form into a Rosechu in the first place, seeing how female Sonichus theoretically don't exist and that Rosechus are essentially the female counterpart of Sonichus. And despite giving the character the new and more logical name, he never implied that he'd do a redesign on the character itself to give it Rosechu traits.


== See also ==
== See also ==
*[[Women's rights]]
*[[Chris and fashion]]
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and fashion]]
*[[Muscle bra]]
*[[Muscle bra]]
*[[Tomgirl]]
*[[Unclit]]
*[[Women's rights]]


== References ==
== References ==
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The CWCki continues to refer to Christian only by his true, original gender and GodBear-given name, to keep consistent to classical records.
“ When I feel like totally grossed out with even an image of a penis, and recalling and focusing on a vagina image in my mind usually works ”
Chris[1]
Chris's gender issues in a nutshell.

Similar to the topic of faith and the topic of morality, Chris's actual beliefs on gender and how it is classified are more complex than his stated beliefs. For someone so preoccupied with gender identity, Chris displays a staggering ignorance of how either gender typically behaves, and his views of both genders are extremely warped due to him taking the stereotypes he is presented with in television and music at face value.

Females

See also: Women's rights

Chris repeatedly asserts his reverence of women, and seems to have a comparatively glowing opinion of them, stating that he finds women "empathetic". But, as stated at the beginning of the article, the truth is more complicated. While Chris has always preferred female friends, and is known to be far more accommodating of lesbians than gay men, even going so far as to identify as one himself, in truth, Chris has a distinctly sexist view of women. Based on his failed attempts at getting girls at the mall, Chris views females as hyper-sexual, preoccupied with shopping, given to conversing with others for hours, and fixated on getting married and having children. This is highly evident in his female characters in Sonichu. As a matter of fact, In Sonichu #9, he referred to women as another species. This seems to be hyperbole, but considering Chris' abysmal knowledge of the sciences, it is difficult to be sure. His Rosechu character who is a living embodiment of how Chris believes all women behave, has a "personality" which consists solely of the traits listed above, which is considered ironic as Chris constantly tries to show Rosechu with a passion for Women's Rights. Despite trying to portray them as being equal in power to their male counterparts, Chris rarely depicts Rosechus fighting, more often simply leaving them on the sidelines of a battle to wail like damsels in distress, even when their boyfriends are in mortal danger. Even outside battle, they tend to be little more than organic sex toys for the Sonichus.

Males

Main article: JERKS

Chris has harbored a deep hatred for men ever since his teenage years, because he was bullied in grade school (largely because of his bloated ego making him extremely annoying to be around), not to mention the fact that Chris is known to fly into fits of jealous rage whenever he sees a man more successful than him, especially if that man is getting some and he isn't. This gradually blossomed into a general distaste for masculine traits such as body hair; indeed, in his nudes it is apparent that he is surprisingly meticulous in shaving his body hair, certainly compared to other aspects of grooming. He also has stated, as shown in this video, a disgust for "topless men" and encourages men to wear muscle bras so he doesn't have to see their nipples. He even made a (now outdated) short list of the men he doesn't consider "jerks", which included himself, his father and Santa Clause [sic]. Chris's misandry continued after identifying as a "tomgirl"; he has variously referred to men in general as "barbarians" and "Neanderthals", which, coming from him, are rather ironic accusations for a number of reasons.

Chris has since relaxed his former misandric attitude and no longer takes issue with the company of men.

Transvestism and transgenderism

Main article: Transgender

It has been speculated for a long time that Chris has gender issues, confirmed in 2016 when he was diagnosed with gender identity disorder.[2] In 2005, he created Crystal Weston Chandler, a female version of himself. In Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE, he mentioned that you should try out the opposite gender's toys while keeping your original gender in mind, possibly indicating that he may have been in denial about transgenderism long before becoming a tomgirl. He also wondered what he would be like if he were born a female.[3]

Chris spent many years struggling to articulate his position on transgender topics. Prior to his own exploration of transgenderism, he confessed that he was uncomfortable with the idea of transgender people, and made it clear that he was not sexually attracted to them.[4] “I have given thought about the transgenders and transvesites; I do not feel comfortable with them….[D]icks are dicks, and I do not care about them, except for my own,” he wrote in a January 2009 chat.[5] He later reiterated: “I Do Not Care Much for Transgender People or Hermaphrodites, but I do not discriminate them as individual people.”[6]

Responding to a troll impersonating the transgender Bailey Jay, Chris wrote, "I can relate to how you feel. Sometimes, I wonder what my life would be like if I was born female instead, because of some of my emotional, caring, self-conscious thoughts I had in my lifetime. Then I would later remember that God must have made me all straight male for good reasons."[7]

Chris's current twitter bio as of 2021.

In 2014 Chris came out as a "lesbian-identified male" before identifying as a "trans woman". After transitioning, Chris adopted the name Christine to accompany his new gender identity along with the corresponding personal pronouns.

In 2019 Chris updated his Twitter to reaffirm his gender pronouns.[8]

Also, I Am Female; please address and talk about me with the correct Pronouns. She/Her/Hers.

Thank You. 😊

As of 28 September 2020, Chris's Twitter includes a pinned tweet reiterating that he is "Female" and uses she/her/hers pronouns. His twitter biography also refers to himself as Mrs. Christine W. Chandler Sonichu and continues to emphasize the use of she/her/hers pronouns. [9]

Non-binary genders

“ "I really did not know how many genders there are, but I am not and do not judge. Have a good day." ”
Chris' beliefs on Non-Binary Genders

Given how complicated of a topic gender is to tackle, especially today, people will tend to argue about what classifies as a "gender" and therefore some people might argue that there exists more than two. In Chris' case, believing everything he sees without giving it a second thought, also concluded that there really are more than two genders simply looking at a Facebook post about how Facebook is allowing their users to identify themselves as 58 different genders on September 17, 2016, taking it to mean that there are in fact 58 genders. [10] The next month, Chris is interviewed on the same topic, and is asked how many genders there are, and simply says there are 58 all because of that same Facebook post. [11]

See also

References

  1. ↑ Misc texts#Desiree Delightful
  2. ↑ Chris changed the gender marker on his driver's license to identify him as female in 2016. The procedure to do this in Virginia is to have a professional whose "practice includes the treatment and counseling of persons with gender identity issues" vouch for the person's gender identity on this form.
  3. ↑ Mailbag 27 - Is Chris hitting on Bailey Jay?
  4. ↑ Mailbag 39#Shemales and man-tits
  5. ↑ IRC (03 January 2009)
  6. ↑ Mailbag 26#Reusing the same excuses for everything else!
  7. ↑ Mailbag 25#It's a trap! and Mailbag 27#Is Chris hitting on Bailey Jay?
  8. ↑ https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1084516261097279488
  9. ↑ https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1310653174462717952
  10. ↑ https://archive.md/H42cq
  11. ↑ https://archive.md/wi10r

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