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{{quotebox|One Question: WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD? A peck on the cheek from a Celebrity that One Likes, Positively Mind You, Is NOT OFFENSIVE To Me. What Really Ticks Me Off is that ANY Displays of Likes and Affection is VIEWED AS TABOO AND MORE OFFENSIVE Than BLOODY, GOREY VIOLENCE. | {{quotebox|One Question: WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD? [[Ego|A peck on the cheek from a Celebrity that One Likes, Positively Mind You, Is NOT OFFENSIVE To Me.]] What Really Ticks Me Off is that ANY Displays of Likes and Affection is VIEWED AS TABOO AND MORE OFFENSIVE Than BLOODY, GOREY VIOLENCE. | ||
And HOW do I Feel after all of the LOVE and POSITIVITY I had been finding and giving back and sharing around, it all turned around against me in One Felt Swoop? I Feel Emotionally Hungover and like a load of crap. 😔😣😭😭😭<ref>https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/1010853615639171073</ref> | And HOW do I Feel after all of the LOVE and POSITIVITY I had been finding and giving back and sharing around, it all turned around against me in One Felt Swoop? I Feel Emotionally Hungover and like a load of crap. 😔😣😭😭😭<ref>https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/1010853615639171073</ref> | ||
Revision as of 13:22, 14 January 2020
| “ | WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD? A peck on the cheek from a Celebrity that One Likes, Positively Mind You, Is NOT OFFENSIVE To Me. | ” |
| Chris, trying to rationalize the behavior that got him kicked out. | ||
TooManyGames is an annual three-day gaming convention currently held at the Greater Philadelphia Expo Center in Oaks, PA. Chris attended the convention in June 2018. He wore The Classic for Day 2. He had also brought along his baseball bat. Due to the convention coinciding with the Guard Dog saga, members of the group - Null included - came to Chris's aid online after hearing of what happened, but ultimately nothing came of their involvement bar planning to make sure Chris was supervised at conventions from then on.
He had started a GoFundMe page to help cover costs, as he had narrowly avoided foreclosure on his home one month before. Three people donated $120.[1][2]
Chris acted very inappropriate towards many of the guests there by kissing and/or touching them, especially those who took pictures with him. This eventually culminated in him being thrown out.
At the con
| “ | I am here! Find me; selfies, hugs and smiles with and from me are free! Autographed card, on the spot, this weekend only: only $5.00. Cash or card. | ” |
| Chris[3] | ||
An event coordinator for the con, Justin Silverman (of Silvermania), arranged for Chris to have a guest badge to the con. According to Silverman himself, he knew Chris would accept his free offer, regardless of the GoFundMe outcome.[4] Silverman's invitation is as follows:
Despite proposing otherwise in his email, Justin did not authorize Chris to host a booth or a panel slot.[4] The 12:30 PM Sunday panel mentioned was likely the Exploring Cringe Culture panel, hosted by jab50yen, whom Chris would reunite with at the con nonetheless.[5]
While at the con, Chris met many of his fans and posed for photo ops. He offered autographs for sale, against con rules as he had no credentials to sell there. He also watched panels and played games, including Halo.
Bowser vs Robotnik panel
On Day 2, Chris attended Bowser vs Robotnik — a panel hosted by Mike Pollock and Kenny James (the voice actors of Doctor Robotnik and Bowser, respectively). Based on the video's introduction, it suggests that the hosts allowed members of the audience to roast them. Given Chris' history with the Sonic franchise, Chris took the opportunity to interact with Pollock, as well as to plug his own franchise. Chris stated that Eggman should return to using his original Robotnik name, as the reverse of his current name sounds like "Nah I'm gay".
| Chris Chan making an ass of himself at Too Many Games VA Panel -- 6-23-18 | |
| Search for video | YouTube, archive |
| Stardate | 23 June 2018 |
| Subject Matter |  Conventions
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| Performance Style |  Reason
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| Shirt |  The Classic
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| OFFICIAL and HONEST CWC Videos | |
| previous Still need Local help with my C64, Please |
next Chris's reaction to Pollock's response |
Chris: Aha! Oh… Mike, you’re gonna make a dream of mine come true ‘cause I’ve enjoyed every scene where Sonic got to insult Eggman, and I’ve got one that I came up with recently. And I just want Eggman’s reaction by the way.
[Chris holds up a copy of Sonichu #10 to Pollock]
Ah, my Sonichu. In case you don’t know. I’m creator of the original yellow but I transform to this one. And I’m encountering Eggman, and Bowser [Chris gestures to Kenny James on stage] can laugh if he wants to, if he likes it!
So… Eggman. Let’s talk for a moment. You like wordplay? All right!
[Chris laughs]
So, I’ve got a good reason for you to go back... to-uh calling yourself Robotnik. ‘Cause spelled word backwards? You say Eggman? That's saying... "Nah-I'm gay". You split it up a little bit further, it sounds like "NAH! GAY!" And at least Kintobor sounds more sophisticated than that! So what do you have to say for you now-say for yourself now, Namgge?
Mike Pollock: WELL, I BELIEVE WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE SAID IT BEST WHEN HE SAID... “WHAT'S IN A NAME? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.”
Chris: [creepy laugh]
[The audience laughs and applauds as Chris takes a bow]
Chris's reaction to Pollock's response
| A happening at toomanygames 2018 [ Chris Chan vs. Mike Pollock Mental Meat Deathmatch ] | |
| Search for video | YouTube, archive |
| Stardate | 23 June 2018 |
| Subject Matter | Conventions
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| Performance Style | Reason
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| Shirt | The Classic
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| OFFICIAL and HONEST CWC Videos | |
| previous Chris making an ass of himself |
next Kissing fans |
Previously identifying as a lesbian just the year before, Chris' Namgge roast—using homosexuality as an insult—harks back to the early years of the internet's discovery of him, when weens accused him of being gay to get a rise out of him. Seemingly, Chris never gave a second thought that his middle school tier roast could be labelled inappropriate by the LGBT community he belongs to.
Satisfied of his witty statement, Chris took to the paper and drew an in-universe representation, featuring Chris Chan Sonichu, Robotnik and Bowser.
Kissing fans
Chris posed with many fans for photos, as he had done at BronyCon and MAGfest. However, this time, after Idea Guy had manipulated Chris into thinking of himself as bisexual and Chris began a habit of kissing men on the cheek (as he did to Copitz and his friend), Chris thought it would be fine to kiss attendees on the cheek after posing with them.
| Chris Chan Kisses A Fan | |
| Search for video | YouTube, archive |
| Stardate | 22 June 2018 |
| Subject Matter | Conventions
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| Performance Style |  Crazy
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| OFFICIAL and HONEST CWC Videos | |
| previous Chris's reaction to Pollock's response |
next Chris chan melt down |
He thought wrong.
Kicked out
| “ | Ok so long story short, Chris Chan was kissing and getting too intimate with con attendees without their consent. Staff gave her multiple warnings to stop and she didn't listen. She was 100% in the wrong and she deserves to be removed from the convention as she broke the rules. | ” |
| jab50yen explains the situation[6] | ||
On Day 2, as a result of being handsy with and kissing attendees,[7] Chris was kicked out of the convention.[8][6][9] He reacted by having a meltdown in the venue, curling up on the floor in the fetal position.[10] Security was brought in to escort Chris out.
Video 1
| Chris chan melt down at #TooManyGames lmao | |
| Search for video | YouTube, archive |
| Stardate | 23 June 2018 |
| Subject Matter | Conventions
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| Performance Style |  Tragedy
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| Shirt | The Classic
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| OFFICIAL and HONEST CWC Videos | |
| previous Kissing fans |
next Chris chan melt down |
Video 2
| Chris chan melt down at #TooManyGames lmao | |
| Search for video | YouTube, archive |
| Stardate | 23 June 2018 |
| Subject Matter | Conventions
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| Performance Style | Tragedy
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| Shirt | The Classic
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| OFFICIAL and HONEST CWC Videos | |
| previous Chris chan melt down |
next My Mother WORKED Hard, Spent Hard; Needs Money NOW |
Chris's thoughts
| “ | I just made Collegeville Bakery 20% Cooler with my presence. TMG’s LOSS; Their Gain! I also suggested a new pizza, The Sonichu Zap! | ” |
| Chris's tweet after being thrown out[11] | ||
Several hours later, Chris tweeted, claiming that con staff had not given him a verbal warning before kicking him out.[12]
| Apologies to the #TooManyGames convention goers and especially @jab50yen.
I didn't notice I had received a warning to stop making physical contact with people taking pictures with me until after I had been asked to leave. They only sent the warning to me over Facebook Messenger. |
The Facebook warning was:
| Don't kiss anyone. Someone complained. Anymore problems and we'll have to pull your badge. Cool?[13] |
On the other hand, according to jab50yen, who is close friends with staff, they said they had given Chris face-to-face warnings.[14]
The next day, Chris backtracked, trying to justify his actions and showing he learned nothing:
| One Question: WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD? A peck on the cheek from a Celebrity that One Likes, Positively Mind You, Is NOT OFFENSIVE To Me. What Really Ticks Me Off is that ANY Displays of Likes and Affection is VIEWED AS TABOO AND MORE OFFENSIVE Than BLOODY, GOREY VIOLENCE.
And HOW do I Feel after all of the LOVE and POSITIVITY I had been finding and giving back and sharing around, it all turned around against me in One Felt Swoop? I Feel Emotionally Hungover and like a load of crap. 😔😣😭😭😭[15] I am going to Tell ALL OF YOU Hater Trolls Something, RIGHT NOW! I WILL Remain Optimistic and Open-Hearted, and I am NOT Going to FAIL! I have the LOVE of my REAL Positive and Kind People and Fans, and I have the LOVE of my Partners: Magi-Chan, Cryzel, Sylvana and Mewtwo, Here! They are Right Here with me, and they Directly, Offline, Communicate With Me Always. And More Importantly, I Love Them All, and They Love Me Truly. This Is Real. ⚡️❤️💜💙❤️💜⚡️[16] |
Years later, Chris compared the ban incident to his December 2019 temper tantrum about ProjectSNT's redesign of his characters, saying "there is something deeper than [the redesigns] that just sets off my subconscious WORSE than that moment at @TooManyGames where I went hedgehog. WORSE THAN THAT.[17]"
Personal space talk
| “ | I need not be reminded of the worst part, but my hedgehog-defensive state and all of the tears and leaking mucus and whole body paralysis that happened to me then and there will haunt me in reminder of that. | ” |
Joshua Moon posted a conversation he had with Chris about the incident,[18] in which he warned Chris about the possible ramifications of his behavior. Notably, the moment he exceeded the hurtful truth level, Chris reacted by drifting off into his imaginary land, posting a lengthy diatribe about CPU Goddesses (which is translated here).
Josh:
| Did you remember to ship those items from Mercari people bought |
Chris:
| Good Afternoon, Josh. I will be shipping out the three photographs today. I need to get three bubble envelopes.
Have you heard back from the people at BronyCon about upgrading my weekend pass on the complimentary? I feel better, but getting up was rough. |
Josh:
| I've not heard back from BronyCon.
Though you need to be aware that what happened at TooManyGames might get you banned from BronyCon preemptively. If it happens again you might end up on a global con blacklist, stopping you from going to any con ever again. The touchy feely stuff is very serious and if it happens to the wrong person getting banned from a con is the least of your concern. They might press sexual assault charges which is sometimes years in prison. |
Chris:
| I am more aware of that now. My lips are kept to myself.
Hey. I am feeling better, yet still recovering. I want to let you know about something, I was sent to TMG to learn more about the possible return of Tari and Rei Ryghts being up to something with the Atari VCU. The CPUs' suspicions were correct from what we were able to get from what I learned during my time there. Amy Rose stayed the remainder of the convention to attend the remaining events and listen on the talk and gossip. We need to make the presence of the Nation of Comma, and the CPU of the Commodore Consoles, Scarlet, spread far and wide everywhere. Her Memories HAVE been bestowed to someone in this world of ours; Scarlet is Kind and Compassionate; she is the counter to Rei Ryghts, should and when Rei attempt something to resurrect her lost Nation. Scarlet Will help us against Rei Ryghts. Remember to share some prayers with the CPUs. Also, tell everyone to give their Full Support to Commodore on their Next Console, which will be named the Commodore CW. Let Commodore know that the console SHOULD have a Serial Port for the Floppy Driveand Printer, a port for the Cassette Drive, a Cartridge Port for their old Cartridges, as well as a Blu-Ray Drive for all media discs. As well as an HDMI Output AND Input, and a Component Output. Their old Cartridges, as well as a Blu-Ray Drive for all media discs. As well as an HDMI Output AND Input, and a Component Output. Their controller should be reminiscent of the Commodore Logo in shape, with pattern of the typical controller, I like the Xbox controller scheme the “C” half facing outward from the player, following the controller for it, and it should be wireless with the USB cable port. And a USB input and output ports for media input and backup, and even hooking up to a PC or Laptop for using either as a monitor. The console should take the shape and form of the Classic Keyboard Console, Complete with the Keyboard. Online functions, downloadable games, and plenty Independent game Titles for the CCW. And the media of their new games should be Physical And Downloadable; I really like using the Cartridges for their games. And the price should be less than $400 on the finished console product. And they should take their time in fully developing, designing, assembling, testing and getting all the bugs out before making it available for sale. Versus the Atari VCU, the Commodore CW Should be a Greater Success! Please, help me spread the word to the current people of Commodore in this world. We need LOTS of this world's people to voice all of this to Commodore. |
Josh:
| It's not just kissing. Someone claims, I don't know if it's true, but someone claims you squeezed their butt as well. That kind of thing, even the rumor, puts you at risk of being banned from BronyCon and all other cons in advance. I can't help you if that happens. It also scares away people who buy stuff from you. No one will buy medallions or drawings if they think you don't respect personal space.
Just keep it in mind. This is something I can't magic away and is way, way more serious than trespassing or bumping Snyder. |
Chris:
| Good Morning, Josh. I assure you that I never squeezed or even touched anyone's butt at all.
And I do understand all that. Believe me, and I need not be reminded of the worst part, but my hedgehog-defensive state and all of the tears and leaking mucus and whole body paralysis that happened to me then and there will haunt me in reminder of that. |
Josh:
| Alright. Just be careful in the future and if it's anything other than putting a hand on the waist ask first. People will forgive and forget if the next con goes well.
Hopefully BronyCon still lets you go. |
Chris:
| No problem.
I am positive it will still be good. |
Justin Silverman's account
On 27 June, event coordinator Justin Silverman consulted with a CWCki editor to clarify his role in bringing Chris to TooManyGames, and give his side of the story regarding whether staff had warned Chris before kicking him out. To authenticate his claims, he attached unseen photographs of Chris' meltdown:[4]
| Wanted to change something and didn't want to register or whatever.
On the TooManyGames page, I'm brought up. But, it's referenced by a Kiwi Farms thread. Figured I'd give you first hand info. ...and so you know I'm real...
It says... "A supervisor for TooManyGames, likely Justin Silverman of Silvermania, arranged for Chris to have a booth at the con for selling his autographs[4]." But, in fact, there was no booth promised or given... no panel, timed meet up, or sanctioned anything. Just a badge. I gave her a badge because she was coming anyways, I knew the GoFundMe would go through... figured if I messaged her about a free anything, she would respond. That way, I'd be in close contact. I could meet and talk to her directly, warn her face to face. I did. She then screwed up, many times, and my security team had to step in. We tried doing this in private, but she froze up then hit the floor. EMTs tried to help with no luck. Thankfully Jab and a sympathetic mother of an autistic child were there, they defused the situation. Mind you, hundreds of people were stuck in the traffic. Police en route. Almost got ugly... only telling you this because I don't want anyone to think we condoned this or whatever. I figured she be a problem, but wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt... since Magfest was fine 6 months ago. Live and learn. Post whatever you want, or nothing. It's blown over now anyway. Thanks for what you do.
It was actually really sad in real life... like, I get it's a big joke online, and people hate her guts and like to troll... but, this person, in their autistic shell, on our carpet... was truly upsetting. I wish she got the help she needs. But, we've cut ties completely. Anyway, thanks. |
Two days later, having discovered the Kiwi Farms post of Justin's admission, Chris completely severed their social media ties and responded:[19]
| Hey, Cowardly Jerk, @JustySilverman
"I warned her face to face"; NO, You Did Not! You cowered behind Facebook during a time I was VERY UNLIKELY to even look at my phone, AND I did have it on silent. You’re lucky I have such a big heart and kindness, otherwise I’d do worse now. |
Silverman replied:[20]
| "Cowardly Jerk" Justin Silverman here. I warned you when you FIRST came in. You agreed to what I said, staff said you were warned as well. Sorry I had to FB message you, couldn't find you among the 15k attendees. Also, you tweet this seconds after liking half my posts on FB???? |
Chris:
| My liking your recent posts are separate from what happened last Saturday. And you warned me Not to use my bat against anyone; you did not say “Don’t Kiss Anyone” to me right there. You should have found me around that 11:00 am time, borrowed me for a moment, and told me then.
Instead, your warning was through Facebook Messenger during the time I was Very Unable to look at my phone. You should have done your job and better. The grade I give you for how you did, I would have to give you Two out of Five; Under Mediocre. You think about that, dude. YOU HAD your chance to to your job right, and you Epic Failed. Peace. |
Twenty minutes later, Chris had an abrupt shift in his tone:[21]
| By the way, everyone, I Do accept that I, in fact, kissed a lot fans who hugged me, on their face cheeks. I was opening myself more to everyone; I really had no idea that was a bad thing to a lot of individuals. And for offending those with my kisses, I am really sorry, and from now on, I promise to keep my lips to myself from now on, unless the other person requests a kiss on the face cheek from me, period. Please, forgive and forget that, and let us all move forward in our lives. I Have Learned the Lesson all too well. And thanks to @JustySilverman , that lesson will Not be forgotten anytime soon or later. Thank You All. |
Gallery
Chris with event coordinator Justin Silverman of Silvermania. Captioned "This guy hooked me up! 😃❤"
Chris and jab50yen
Chris with FourScore64, who tweeted that Chris kissed him on the cheek.[22]
A fan poses next to Son-Chu, which Chris poorly parked in a handicapped zone.
Playing Halo 2
Watching a panel.
On Day 2, apparently before being kicked out.
Photos of the meltdown
The cops outside the convention.
| ⇐ I need some local C64 Tech Help, Please | Chris's videos | My Mother WORKED Hard, Spent Hard; Needs Money NOW ⇒ |
Fan videos
| Chris-Chan's Duck Licker; that is I Reversed | |
| Stardate | 5 July 2018 |
| Made By | Craig Smith |
| Other Info | Happy 4th of YAALUJ (kind of)! And what better way to celebrate it after coming back from a convention... |
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References
- ↑ https://www.gofundme.com/5oc2gtc
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/financhu-crisis-chris-sells-his-stuff-megathread.41369/page-92#post-3487182
- ↑ https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/1010235699507888128
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/justin-silvermans-account-of-chris-at-toomanygames.44842
- ↑ TooManyGames 2018 schedule (as of July 2018)/
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 https://twitter.com/jab50yen/status/1010620667337768966
- ↑ https://tweetsave.com/carbonroller813/status/1010568665736114176
- ↑ https://twitter.com/jab50yen/status/1010620667337768966
- ↑ https://twitter.com/KhanyeyTheGamer/status/1010596722370805760
- ↑ https://twitter.com/sungay_best/status/1010588470899892226?s=21
- ↑ https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/1010629975366668288
- ↑ https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/1010696757053935616
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3494484/
- ↑ https://tweetsave.com/jab50yen/status/1010700307406491648
- ↑ https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/1010853615639171073
- ↑ https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/1010855572529467392
- ↑ https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1204536104235520003
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-talk.44787/
- ↑ https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1012799560433983488
- ↑ https://twitter.com/JustySilverman/status/1012803789018009604
- ↑ https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1012810224690921472
- ↑ https://tweetsave.com/fourscore64/status/1010316775504965632