User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto

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Over the course of writing this page and gathering evidence, I've come to realize that there is so much evidence that I need to gather and upload to the CWCki that attempting to add all of it at once to this single page is nigh impossible. As a result, I've decided to prioritize uploading only the most crucial information first, depending on how updated this page is, and upload the rest later as time goes on. If you notice sections missing citations where they should perhaps have them, or citations that lead nowhere, just know that I'm aware of this and will update the page accordingly in due time. Please stay tuned for updates. Editors can direct questions onto the talk page. Thank you for your patience.

Never trust crazy people on the Internet.
The moral of this story, ironically said to me by the least trustworthy crazy person I encountered on this journey of mine.

The following is my personal story about how I got involved with the CWC community, became a member of the Watchmen, was exiled from the group, closely observed Chris for about a year (mid-2020 to mid-2021), and ultimately ended my involvement due to events surrounding the Incest reveal. Much of my tale will be framed around the events of 30 July 2021, and I will go into extensive details about my experiences. Not all of it will necessarily directly involve Chris, with focus also being given to Chris's orbiters and members of interest in the community.

This is not meant to be an objective article summarizing events by any means. It is all very subjective, and while I aim to keep as many facts as possible intact, I acknowledge that some of it may be colored by my own personal biases. That is just unavoidable when writing something from this personal of a perspective.

I will be providing as many screenshots as I can, to help contextualize and prove my claims. I will be as truthful as possible regarding myself and my actions, as I don't have anything to hide. However, I will occasionally keep certain names out of these events, as many people who were adjacent to myself at this time have little or nothing to do with the events that transpired around Chris.

Lastly, if you want full context, then please read the whole page and follow it as it's updated. I know it's a lot, but this isn't something I feel can get an accurate "tl;dr" while still maintaining the full truth. It is far too complicated a subject for that.

Thank you for reading, and for your patience.

Foreword

30 July 2021. A day that would forever live on in infamy and scar the minds of Christorians the world over. Referred to sometimes as the "9/11 of the Internet," this was the day that a recording was released which revealed Chris's incestuous relationship with his mother. Soon after, Chris was arrested and jailed, his fate left in the hands of the Virginia judicial system. And Kiwi Farms was left to investigate the actors that were involved in the creation and release of this recording, resulting in the discovery of the troll Isabella Loretta Janke, otherwise known as Bella.

Along with her came the revelation of a cabal of sadistic trolls that surrounded her, as well as horrific details about her life and seemingly cruel and sadistic personality. Certain individuals who got involved with her were also placed under scrutiny, including The Suitress and Sean Walker. And because my username was found as part of a group chat in which Bella was interrogated, I suddenly found myself caught in the crossfire of angry Kiwis who were searching for someone to blame.

I have since been subject to many rumors and incomplete or outright false statements, so in an effort to tell my story, and clarify what transpired from my perspective, I have decided to write about it here.

I was the third individual to play the role of “Lainchu the Chronicler.” I was tasked with recording information provided by Chris, and then distributing said information to the CWCki, and by extension, the Kiwi Farms.

Bear in mind, I do not have all of the answers regarding the various mysteries surrounding Bella and her schemes. But there are things that I do know, and a few things that I suspect. And this is what I will share.

I am Anaxis, a.k.a. Lainchu the Chronicler. This is my story, and nothing less.

The Beginning (July 2020 - September 2020)

I have been casually observing Chris since around 2016, about at the point when the Doopie Saga was just beginning. I was fascinated and disgusted by Chris, intrigued and revolted. It was a lot to take in, and I remember there being a point where I would be procrastinating on responsibilities by reading the CWCki. It was a fun time sink for a while, but eventually I read all of the major articles and grew bored. From then on, I would visit the wiki every so often, usually just to check Da Update and see what the latest news was regarding Chris. I never got involved in the community directly, I would always be incredibly passive about my observation. I never aspired to make a CWCki account or visit the Kiwi Farms. I would just check the website's front page, and later stay caught up with Geno Samuel’s series.

That all changed once the CWCki Discord Server came into existence.

On 1 July 2020, the Official CWCki Server was created by Klop, and I joined it the very next day. I found myself in a community unlike any other that I had known. It had many different people of varying backgrounds and a wide span of opinions, but we all had one common attribute: our fascination with observing Chris. For the first time, I was surrounded by people who were willing to engage in discourse about him, and that was something that I found to be often very entertaining, even intellectually stimulating at times. Although I can’t say that I was the biggest fan of the culture that often propagated around the server, I genuinely enjoyed discussing Christory, and so it was worth it to me.

I would like to believe that I had some influence in shaping the server at the time, such as suggesting that we add separate channels for the discussion of Christory-related topics. I also firmly believed in the #1 rule that was established on the server, which followed a similar attitude to the wiki: Do not contact Chris, or attempt to troll him. Sadly, throughout my time on the server, I had come across many people who had broken that rule, and come to the server to brag about their “accomplishment,” only to find that their audience would not be receptive. Many users have been banned from the server for that very reason. One of the server moderators noticed my interest in analysis of Chris and Christory, and offered to make me an editor account, which I accepted.

Arrival of the Watchmen

I had been on the server for about a month when the members of the group that would come to be known as the Watchmen began arriving. First, and most prominently, was Bismuth, going by the name Heart (❣) at the time, and who I will be referring to as Naught for the remainder of this writing. He began releasing a large amount of assorted leaks regarding Chris, which would come to be known as the 2020 Discord leaks. Funny enough, one of my first interactions with Naught was a rather hostile one: he was posting these leaks in a discussion channel, and I would occasionally comment on them. He got fed up with the “interruptions” and stopped posting leaks, resulting in an argument between us, until he was given his own dedicated channel for leaks. Interestingly, this interaction didn’t seem to end up characterizing the relationship we would later have, at least not at the start.

Having been so heavily involved in the server from its inception, coupled with the fact that life had become exceedingly dull due to the then-raging COVID-19 pandemic, I eventually approached the modstaff and asked if I could join them, and they said yes. Curiously, I was added to the modstaff by Klop at the exact same time as Naught, as Klop had ties with the Watchmen at the time and had been adding a few of their members to the modstaff as well, such as MKR. I was glad to be a part of the team, but my first real challenge as a moderator came from an event which had begun on the previous day.

Chris, who was in the midst of roleplaying as Sonichu at the time, arrived in the server on 10 August 2020, after Naught had invited him in.[1] At the time, the server had a contingency plan in place in the event that Chris showed up: he would be isolated into a single channel, only able to type in there, while individuals who were seen as sane and reasonable would be given a role called “True and Honest,” and only they would be allowed to speak to Chris, to ask questions and the like. However, news of Chris’s arrival in the server spread quickly, resulting in an influx of new users desperate to approach him and interact with him in some way, whether that be trolling, asking questions, or just having a chat. Ultimately, Chris only sent two messages during his time in the server, both of which had to do with the Dimensional Merge.

By 14 August, it was decided that the trouble of having Chris on the server was simply not worth it, and ultimately conflicted with the server’s philosophy of not interacting with him. During this time, Klop was the one who played Lainchu, a role that was created for the purpose of documenting Chris and relaying relevant information back to the CWCki, and was a member of the Watchmen. Since Chris’s arrival in the CWCki Server, Klop had been working on creating another server for the purposes of filtered interaction with Chris’s fans (via the Watchmen), in order to separate the CWCki Server from Chris. On the day of Chris’s banning, Klop posted an announcement about it as well as a link to the new server, called cwc frens.

The statement and invite.
In the last few days lots have happend [sic] in this server. Chris has joined this place for starters. This was met with mixed reception. The CWCki's goal is only to document Chris and not provide him a platform to push his agendas. It was never imagined that Chris will use this server to ramble about his fantasies. And due to this it has been decided to give Chris his own server where he may do as he pleases.
Klop's statement on Chris's banning.[2]

However, setup was not finished and the server was quickly infested by weens, forcing the moderators to take control of the situation. Chris himself wasn’t even there yet, although he would arrive eventually. Klop gave ownership to Naught, who would run the cwc frens server until its eventual closure less than a month later. At the same time, he handed ownership of the CWCki Server to another moderator. I don’t know exactly what happened, but he seemed to have had a change of heart in regards to dealing with Chris (although this would be brief). But this was the event that jumpstarted my involvement: Klop decided that he no longer wanted to play the part of Lainchu, and, having confided in me beforehand about playing the role, offered it to me.

I considered the pros and cons: there was an inherent risk when being so close to Chris, of course, and I wasn't interested in drawing attention to myself. On the other hand, this was an interesting opportunity to observe Chris a bit closer, and even relay new information back to the CWCki using my then newly-created editor account. And so, I decided to accept Klop's offer.

If only I knew the consequences of this decision that would arise a little less than a year later.

Joining the Watchmen

The Place.

A member of the Watchmen would reach out to me soon after, giving me an invite to their server, "The Place". Within it were two layers of channels: one which was visible to Chris and everybody else, and a second which was visible to everybody excluding Chris.[footnote 1] It was here that I formally met several members of the Watchmen for the first time, such as MKRNightVee, NovaKyle, and Neko Onyx/The WCT. I was pretty quiet upon arrival, not quite knowing how I fit in, not having been given any instructions for my role. As it turned out, it didn't end up mattering at first: Klop had returned to the Watchmen, and since I had not done anything as Lainchu yet, decided to take the role back temporarily. This was fine by me; I was mostly interested in more distanced documentation anyway.

I got into the habit of screenshotting conversations whenever Chris was involved, and some of these conversations made up the substance of the early Discord Q&A, such as Q&As 2 and 3. I would upload these screenshots as references in the articles, with the names of the Watchmen (besides Lainchu) censored.

The Q&A itself was very impromptu and generally disorganized, and there was a rather large plethora of questions to be picked from. This was not to mention sourcing from cwc frens, which involved Naught acting as a gobetween for Chris, answering questions in his stead, although the volatile nature of the poorly-managed server coupled with Naught's general impatience towards less-informed Chris observers made it difficult to organize that effectively.

By the end of August, Klop decided to give up the role of Lainchu, this time for good, choosing to dissociate himself with the Watchmen and the CWC community entirely. Once again, he asked me if I wanted it, and I accepted. He left for a fair amount of time, but would eventually return to the CWCki Server every so often to check in on things.[3]

Becoming Lainchu

Art of Lainchu by MKR, which I used as a profile pic when talking to Chris.

The migratory nature of the Lainchu role put me in an interesting position: I was more-or-less able to pick up where Klop left off, having already formed a relationship of sorts with Chris. To him, Lainchu the Chronicler was meant to be not only a historian who would document what Chris wanted, but a kind of sage who would give advice on how Chris could get closer to the Dimensional Merge.

I initially carried on like nothing was different, waiting and watching for Chris to say something noteworthy in the Place. So it came to my complete surprise when he messaged me privately one day, early in September, entirely out of the blue.

He came asking me questions about bringing the Dimensional Merge closer to fruition, and initially, I didn't quite know how to respond.[4] Up to that point, I purposefully avoided speaking to Chris, specifically because I didn't want to have to enable him. But here, I was stuck: either I play the game with him and keep him talking, or I refuse and he clams up. At this point, I went to Naught for help deciphering the nonsense that I was being sent as well as advice on how to respond, and he gave me a general idea of how to speak to Chris from then on.[5]

Chris's desperation and desire to bring about the Merge was evident, and the last thing I wanted to do was promise him something that would never come. So I developed a strategy: whenever I would be asked a question about accelerating the event into existence, I would go full Zen Master, preaching about the virtues of patience and allowing fate to take its natural course. I would always be just vague enough that I could be giving wisdom on anything. On occasion, early on, I would go back to Naught for specific advice when Chris was being particularly difficult,[6] but soon I got the hang of things and stopped asking for his advice altogether.

It was around this point that I began rising through the ranks of the modstaff on the CWCki Server, eventually joining the small group of "Manajerks" at the top of the command structure. Having seen the general inefficiency through which questions were delivered to Chris for the Q&A, and having ready access to a fairly sizable group of individuals interested in having their queries answered by Chris, I set to work on creating a new, separate server that would avoid the issues brought about by the mailbags attempted in cwc frens and elsewhere: by taking Chris out of the equation completely.

This new server would be a repository for questions directed towards Chris, moderated by myself and a select few from the CWCki Server, where we would separate the wheat from the chaff and ensure that only non-trolling questions of quality (in our opinions) would reach Chris. Officially, we would "forward them to the Watchmen" after review, which was technically correct, as "Lainchu" would be the one asking these questions to Chris on the users' behalf.

The server was dubbed CWC Questions, and would serve as the primary source of questions for the rest of the Q&A, from Discord Q&A 5 until its conclusion with Discord Q&A 11. The cwc frens server came to an unceremonious end on 6 September, with Naught, fed up with having to wrangle weens, deciding to wipe the slate clean and create a different server from scratch that would serve a similar purpose (although this ultimately never saw the light of day). Two days later, CWC Questions launched, and we began gathering inquiries. I would send them to Chris a few hours later (as he had messaged me asking for more Merge wisdom the day previous), and he answered them, allowing me to post the screenshots directly onto the CWCki, on their own page.[7] Systems for both vetting questions server-side and delivering them to Chris in DMs were established, with me sending relevant questions to Chris in a set of ten at a time, and reminding him once a week about the questions if he neglected to answer them (which was frequent). This system would last until the Q&A's end in December 2020.

On Enabling Chris and My Intentions

I am fully aware of the morally questionable implications of my choice to enable Chris, as well as the negative perception that comes with doing so. Enablers are frowned upon in the CWC community, and with good reason: they perpetuate, and oftentimes, add to Chris's unhealthy delusions, furthering him down a destructive path. I'm not here to tell you that I was some exception to the rule, or that I deserve any less amount of flak for "playing along" with Chris's craziness. I only wish to explain why I did the things that I did, and give some context to my actions.

The sad reality about modern Chris, as any Christorian worth their salt would tell you, is that he will not willingly engage with anyone who does not play along with his delusions, including people who try to help him. Null found this out the hard way, when Chris grew upset with him initially refusing to entertain Chris's Merge nonsense in the aftermath of the Idea Guys. Thus, if you were going to speak to Chris, you either had to acknowledge his delusions quietly or discuss them in great depth. The latter option was not appealing to me, so I chose to do the former.

I dubbed this technique light enabling.

As mentioned earlier, I would usually send him vague wisdoms whenever he would ask about the Merge, having to do with patience and allowing fate to take its natural course. My number one rule when dealing with Chris (which I also enforced when evaluating Q&A questions) was: don't give Chris any new ideas. I would always strive to maintain the status quo of Chris's beliefs for as long as possible since they could not be removed, as opposed to enablers who attempted to insert their own lore into Christory. To me, this was the ideal modus operandi of the Watchmen when regarding Chris (although whether it was followed by the others is an entirely different story).

My first priority when speaking to Chris was the gathering of more information, by way of the Q&A. If light enabling was required on some level to get there, then so be it. All that I wanted was information that I could upload to the CWCki. Nothing more, nothing less. Only once did I break my self-imposed rule of not adding new lore in an act of desperation, which I will cover later.

I've seen a few people here and there theorize that I was a troll or a ween. Unless the mere act of speaking to and enabling Chris qualifies me as such, I disagree with this assessment. I never tried to troll or otherwise antagonize Chris, and I had no desire for glory, clout, or a place in Christory. I never took credit for any of the actions I did as Lainchu, and the only reason I'm doing so now is because the cat is already out of the bag. Unlike some people, I don't view being in Christory as a badge of honor. If anything, it's the opposite. I just wanted to make a few small contributions by way of information releases.

Some might also call me hypocritical for preaching the "observe, but don't interact" philosophy when it comes to Chris while interacting with Chris myself, which I suppose is a fair criticism. I did try to maintain this philosophy for as long as possible, even as a member of the Watchmen, until Chris spoke to me first. In my mind, I justified it as him having reached out to me, rather than the other way around (which was far more typical of those wanting Chris's attention), and thus it was not the same case. I also believed myself to be making contributions to Christory by way, once again, of information releases, making speaking to Chris a necessary evil. While I do feel like the ends justified the means in terms of what I got out of Chris during the time we spoke, I am still uneasy with having spoken directly to him in order to do so. If I've let anyone down, especially from the CWCki Server, I apologize.

I do not expect to be taken solely at my word on this matter, so I encourage you to look at my DMs with Chris, which I am currently updating and will eventually be posted in their entirety, and draw your own conclusions about my intentions. I hope that you find them illuminating.

The Days of Prosper (September 2020 - December 2020)

From September to December 2020, things were fairly good over on Discord. During this period, I became the owner of the CWCki Server, and began committing time to improving it in different aspects. Chris would answer the Q&A every so often, each time prompting me to make a new page. Relations with most of the Watchmen were fairly good, at least on the surface. In retrospect, it was the calm before the storm.

This section covers an approximate four-month period on different fronts, so I will be splitting it into sections based off of each subject of interest.

The CWCki Server

I acquired the CWCki Server from the previous owner in October 2020, and I continued the process that I had begun previously of shaping the server to my ideal vision of it while maintaining the spirit of the community. Beforehand, the server was something of a Wild West, playing fast and loose with the rules and what could be gotten away with. Potentially troublesome users ran rampant, and what was and was not enforced varied wildly. After Chris's visit and subsequent banning, the server's population grew dramatically, and with Klop's departure as owner came a bit more of a controlled and somewhat strict method of moderation. No longer could the server risk incurring the wrath of Discord, given its size and the nature of its subject matter. Klop's successor (and my predecessor) began this process, and once the server came under my ownership, I began doubling our efforts.

Slowly, the less controlled aspects of the server were tightened, and a relative order came over it. While there was still a plethora of edgy jokes and writing throughout the server, nothing within it put us at odds with the Discord administration, and anything that could potentially cause that to happen was quickly handled by the team of moderators. It was a fairly well-run operation, all things considered, allowing the server to avoid any community guideline issues for a little over a year.

Of course, it was not all sunshine and blossoming zapbuds: there were the occasional unusual or troublesome people who came and went through the server, such as trolling groups and those who incessantly wished to contact Chris. These cases often provided interesting challenges for myself and the modstaff to handle, trying to ensure that everyone within the server was relatively safe and happy, while also keeping the Discord higher-ups from looking at us too closely. Our numbers steadily grew, and with that, came new ideas.

We would start hosting monthly competitions, such as themed contests that determined the server's icon, usually for the upcoming month or two. During Christmas, leading into the New Year, I hosted a five-day marathon of all of Geno Samuel's Comprehensive History series that was available at the time, drawing in a sizable group of watchers, and beginning the "Watch Parties" that we would host every time a new episode was released.

Things weren't perfect, and we had to deal with some bullshit sometimes, but overall, they were good. The server was prospering.

The Suitress and Associates

The individual who is now known on this wiki as the Suitress was once a member of the Official CWCki Server, under the username Snoo. She was perhaps one of the most unique and unusual people there, being almost entirely and singularly defined by her open sexual and romantic attraction to Chris. During her time in the server, she became well-known by its denizens for her behavior, obsessing over Chris in a disturbingly committed way, sometimes openly expressing her own sexual fantasies. Her behavior was so over-the-top and bizarre that she wasn't taken very seriously most of the time, with most users dismissing her as another (self-admitted) autistic oddball, and nothing more. I didn't pay much mind to her in general; to me, she was just another strange user who had decided to make the server their digital roost.

But others did take note of her, and unbeknownst to myself at the time, she began to attract a small following of trolls who wanted to turn her into a lolcow as well. To make matters worse, I was tipped off to the fact that she had been trying to contact Chris, and because I thought she was harmless at the time and didn't want her falling prey to the Watchmen, I gave her a verbal warning, which she seemed to take seriously. This was unfortunately later undermined when one of the Watchmen attempted to face-dox her on the server, which was the first (but not last) time that my role as a moderator came into conflict with my position as a Watchman.

The group attempting to troll her was eventually found out and banned from the server, and Snoo herself was banned soon after for unrelated rule violations. It should be noted that all of these actions took place directly before I took ownership of the CWCki Server.

Snoo would attempt to return again several months later, under a new account and seemingly unaware that she had been banned in the first place (even going so far as to declare that she knew the community had missed her).[8] After a short debate among the modstaff, her second account was banned, and she has not been seen in the server since. However, as we would later find out, this would not be the last time that the Suitress would become involved in affairs regarding Chris.

An individual known as Gunggan was also a part of the server, and had a friendship of sorts with Snoo, although to what extent is still unknown to me. In the early days of the server, he was quite infamous for being an info sniffer, constantly trying to get the inside scoop on affairs surrounding Chris. Once he found out that Klop was involved with the Watchmen, Gunggan would bug Klop incessantly and, later deducing that I had taken over the Lainchu role from Klop, would DM me questions (which I would either ignore or give vague answers to). It would get to a point where Klop started giving Gunggan fake information out of frustration, and even Naught seemed aware of him. Again, the extent of his activities remain mostly unknown to me, even to this day, but I thought it fair to bring him up as he would later wind up involving himself in the aftermath of the incest scandal, and would share information about the Suitress on Kiwi Farms.

A Note on the CWCki Server Modstaff

There are some who believe that the modstaff of the CWCki Server are guilty of some form of wrongdoing because of their association with me, as I was involved with the Watchmen. I want to make this absolutely clear: the only members of the modstaff who were involved with the Watchmen and spoke to Chris were myself and Klop. CWCki Jerkop Hurtful Truth Level and site owner Marvin were also present in the group's two servers during this time, but primarily as observers. I wouldn't share information from The Place to the modstaff aside from a few short anecdotes, and for the most part, I kept them in the dark about my activities outside of the server. I didn't want them to get caught up in any of it.

For those who believe that they shouldn't have complied with my secret-keeping, bear in mind that they were technically my subordinates in the server's command structure. While I never outright expressed what, if any, consequences would fall on them if they leaked information, given that I trusted all of them fairly implicitly, I can imagine that they might have desired to keep quiet out of fear of possible retaliation.

None of them had direct contact with any of the Watchmen aside from a few one-off DMs or interactions on the CWCki Server here and there, and they certainly weren't privy to any information that was not already known to the public.

All of this is to say that the modstaff of the server is not involved in any of this drama. They are good people, and the scrutiny that has fallen on them because of my actions is not their fault, nor should it be their responsibility. It is obviously much harder to prove that something didn't happen as opposed to something that did, but I implore anyone seeking information about the activities surrounding Chris on Discord to continue reading this page, and to leave the modstaff alone. They cannot tell you anything that you would not already know.

The Documentation of Chris

When it came to Chris, I developed a pattern of sorts regarding what I would send him, and when. Per his request, I would send 10 questions at a time to him, sourced from CWC Questions, and once he answered, I would send another 10 for him to tackle next.[7] Aside from considering the aforementioned rule about not allowing new ideas to reach Chris that may affect his delusional state further, I would try to make a point of packing together a healthy variety of questions that covered multiple subjects, given how few I could give Chris at a time and how slowly he tended to answer them. Generally, these questions would cover such things as expanding on or clarifying existing Sonichu or Merge lore, acquiring further details about lesser-known aspects of Chris's life, Chris's (or Sonichu's) opinions and advice on various subjects, and random trivia about Chris's life or tastes. I made a habit of treating every Q&A as potentially being the final one, given Chris's infamous laziness and his propensity to be extremely unreliable. Ultimately, this proved to be a very good mindset in the long run, since the Q&As only lasted until December 2020.

I would like to think that I managed to get a good handful of answers to certain burning questions the community had for Chris during this time, such as uncovering the origins behind the name of the Sonichu character Merried Seinor Comic and gaining insight on how Chris viewed the few real friends he's ever had, alongside some more trivial answers. Oftentimes, Chris's rapidly loosening grip on reality was put on full display without even directly referencing the Merge, such as when, in response to a question which asked where he saw himself in a decade, he stated that he would be immortal because of his Goddess powers.

My process for evaluating questions grew as the Q&As continued, soon setting up a depository for CWCki editors to ask questions, which is now archived. I had a template for all of the text-based Q&As which I would use to set up the next page of answers. Doing so was always easy, given that Chris answered through text and all I had to do was copy and paste. Aside from taking screenshots of our conversations, with myself wearing the Lainchu nickname and profile picture, I didn't have to do much editing, and the pages were always fairly short.

Discord Q&A 9 is an outlier among the ones I've done, being answered over audio at Naught's insistence. This was because Chris needed to do an audio test for the then-upcoming interview with The Create Unknown, over Audacity and likely on his iPad. I initially relied on Naught to record Chris and deliver the audio file to me, but he somehow failed to record anything when he tried, leaving me with nothing to work with.[9] I had to ask Chris to re-record everything he had answered himself, and I was convinced that Chris would refuse out of frustration. But surprisingly, Chris was a good sport about the whole ordeal, re-recording everything and providing me a copy with fairly clean audio.[10] On a personal note, I find it funny that Chris Chan, whose name is practically synonymous with incompetence, managed to successfully create the audio file himself while Naught utterly failed to do so. I gave the file to The WCT to upload to his YouTube channel for embedding on the wiki,[11] and once I was finished transcribing it (a much longer ordeal than simply copy-pasting text that Chris had written), the page was live.

I began to see the slow but predictable degradation to Chris's "work ethic" when it came to answering the Q&A as the weeks ticked by (despite the simplicity of the task at hand). Q&As 5 - 8 were all answered in September 2020, each a few days apart from one another, with the longest gap being between Q&A 7 and 8 in a span of a little over a week. Contrast this with Q&As 9, 10, and 11, which were each answered in the months of October, November, and December, respectively, leaving two month-long gaps in which no questions were answered at all. I can only assume that Chris had a relative enthusiasm for the first few Q&As, seeing as the format and question content was somewhat new, and this interest began to peter out as he found new things to occupy his time with (such as Praetor, who had recently entered the picture in October).

To be entirely fair to Chris, he was under no obligation to answer my questions, and I was always more than happy to take what I could get. I didn't want to push him and risk him shutting down completely, so I would send him weekly reminders whenever large gaps began appearing between his messages. I would always try to frame things politely, never being demanding, only asking if he could do this task for me if he had the time. He would usually ignore me whenever I did this, but I persisted on the off-chance that he would take notice and change course, and this was something that I continued to do well after Discord Q&A 11 (hoping in vain that the Q&A would resume). Upon further reflection, perhaps my business-like attitude towards getting what I wanted from Chris led to his waning commitment to doing as I asked.

Chris's final answer to my queries came on 4 December 2020, when he asked that I not send him any more questions for at least two more months (this was after he had just taken a month to answer the most recent batch). I complied, not wanting to push too hard, but I think this may have totally broken what little momentum was left in him. Unbeknownst to me at the time, Discord Q&A 11 would unfortunately be the last one.

The Create Unknown

Chris signing off from the Create Unknown interview.

I found out about The Create Unknown interview through the Watchmen, and I volunteered to assist with it as a liaison. After he had prepared by way of the audio test that would become Discord Q&A 9, Chris came onto TCU as a guest on 28 October 2020, with myself and NovaKyle watching it from within the chat room (thanks to the generosity of the hosts). Knowing that this interview would likely be interesting subject matter, I took it upon myself to record it in its entirety (with video), ending up capturing a few interesting tidbits here and there, such as Chris's demonstration of his "telekinesis powers" on a fidget cube, as well as the beginning and end of the show that were each cut out of the main interview.

After editing irrelevant aspects out of the capture, I asked the hosts if the video could be made public after their edited audio-only version went live. I initially asked The WCT if he wanted to host the video, but TCU preferred to do it themselves, which I had no issue with (and was more than justified, given that they own the content). I gave the video to them, and they eventually uploaded it to their channel, unlisted, on 16 December 2020, just in time for me to upload it to the CWCki.

So yes, the "anonymous Discord user" who recorded and created the uncut video was me.


Create Unknown Chris Chan UNCUT
Stardate 16 December 2020
Made By The Create Unknown
TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos



Interactions Within the Place

Chris would come into the "general" chat in the Place every so often, usually to have conversations with the Watchmen about his day, discuss whatever media he was in the midst of consuming, or talk about the Merge. Sometimes he'd write massive textwalls to get across a point, and usually he would @ everyone in order to do so, so I never ended up missing it due to this. Amusingly, he had a tendency to redundantly @ specific people even when he decided to @ everyone in the same message.

When talking about his days, he would usually insert fictional OCs into them (especially during the "spirit possession" phase), such as saying that he (as Sonichu) tried to cuddle with Rosechu through the "Iron Curtain" that divided the dimensions,[12] or that the OCs of Naught and MKR were beside him while watching a show. It was all rather depressing to witness, but nothing out of the ordinary when considering the content of Chris's tweets at the time.

More concerning, however, were the occasions when Chris would report potential health issues and construe them as proof that his goddess powers were activating and that the Merge was getting closer to happening. These weren't frequent, but did cause minor alarm whenever they were brought up. Chris would feel "vibrations" in his body, which he interpreted as his psychic powers activating. The Watchmen involved in the conversations would always try to tell him to go to a doctor to get things checked out, but Chris of course insisted that he was fine, being immortal. Thankfully, no major health crises arose from these reports, but it was still very concerning to see Chris disregard the notion of visiting a doctor even under the insistence of the people expressing concern over his well-being.

It was rare, but there were times when conversations with Chris would border on normal. Usually, this would come about when he spoke about the shows he had been recently watching, and the Watchmen responded to this. I will never forget, the one and only normal conversation I ever had with Chris was at 3 in the morning one day: he was awake and having a chat, and the conversation pivoted to movies, animation, and then the YouTuber Saberspark, and we both commented on our shared enjoyment of his content.[13] It was weird: for the briefest of moments, I had a normal conversation with Chris Chan. But it didn't last long, of course. Soon enough, he was back to talking about the Merge, and things returned to usual again.

Chris and Praetor

It became apparent pretty quickly that Chris had a certain level of business ambition when it came to Sonichu merchandising, albeit not enough that he'd lift a finger on his own behalf to turn those ambitions into reality. On 8 September, during a discussion about putting the Sonichu comics onto Amazon, Chris mentioned, for the first time, his desire to have a "skilled crafter or two" create Sonichu medallions and Amiibo for him. A few ideas were bounced around between him and the other Watchmen, but nothing conclusive came from this other than determining that Amazon would not be the best manufacturer for physical merchandise.[14]

The first time that Praetor was indirectly mentioned in the Place server was on 22 September, when Chris informed us that he would be meeting with his "new associates" regarding the production and distribution of custom medallions and Amiibo figures on his behalf. When I asked who they were, Chris didn't answer, only posting a picture of a gold medallion that he claimed was "Lovingly crafted by the young lady of the group, with paint that had a mixture of 24K gold in it."

The original golden medallion.

It's likely that the "young lady" he was referencing was Annie Renee, one of the core members of the group. He didn't illuminate very much beyond that, only that they were based in Goochland and that Chris could tell that their intentions were "legit, honest and true." The Watchmen were naturally suspicious, but didn't inquire further beyond the initial questions.[15]

Praetor's logo.

On 25 September, after Naught asked about the medallion makers, Chris affirmed them to be "good and genuine" once again, stating that they were setting up an Etsy shop and were making the first batch of medallions. He also gave us their "company name" for the first time: Praetor LLC.[16] Predictably, any results that came up by googling that name only brought up legitimate registered businesses that had nothing to do with the Praetor that the community came to know.

They were mentioned again on 3 October, when Chris spoke about the possibility of writing a lore bible, and affirmed that Praetor was in support of such an idea. Nova, suspicious that Praetor was ordering him to do this, suggested making a Twitter poll to gauge support for the idea,[17] which Chris followed through on.

Praetor was formally introduced to the Watchmen on 15 October, when Chris requested that Naught invite their Discord account (which belonged to the leader, Caden Peck) into the Place (they received access to the first layer only). Chris also revealed the first names of fellow members Owen Sundstrom and Annie Renee, who supposedly were encouraging an idea of Chris's that there was a connection between the Mayan calendar and the Dimensional Merge. We all said our hellos, and soon after, the Watchmen began asking numerous questions about Praetor's business plans. Praetor answered some of them, but notably refused to disclose the split in income between themselves and Chris, claiming that Chris had signed a confidentiality agreement. In an effort to solidify their legitimacy as a company, they claimed to have once lent their services to the micronation of Molossia, and spoke about their motivations for working with a client like Chris.

At one point, I asked for a website or social media of theirs. They claimed not to have a website anymore, but did have a Twitter and Instagram.[18] Praetor wasn't exactly very careful about keeping their members private, and as a result, links to the personal social media accounts of Caden, Owen, and Annie were all found with ease, alongside pictures of all of them. The Watchmen swiftly archived all of this information.

Praetor would participate in some irrelevant small talk early the next morning,[19] but from there on out, they were mostly silent in the Place. Though outwardly polite at that point, the Watchmen were incredibly suspicious and distrustful of Praetor behind the scenes, believing that they would proceed to extort or manipulate Chris, considering their support of the lore bible and the theories about the Mayan calendar. I'll refrain from sharing my opinions on them for now, and just say that their actions in the following weeks did little to endear them further.

The now-infamous photo on Praetor's Instagram account, which initially exposed the personal accounts of several of its own members.

Later that day (16 October), Chris provided us a preview of the handwritten script he intended to follow for his then-upcoming sermon video, which I would later upload to this website as part of the same article. Said video would eventually go live on 8 November, featuring seemingly mocking edits of Chris on behalf of the Praetor team. This was Praetor's first public introduction to the CWC Community, and it showcased, above anything else, their seeming lack of care towards hiding their identities even when doing questionable things, as their Instagram account even tagged those who appeared in pictures with Chris (which were later removed, but not before they were recorded). This fact was detrimental towards the Watchmen's primary method of driving away perceived bad actors, as it seemed there was nothing about Praetor's members that could be exposed to the public, which they had not already exposed themselves.

They would later launch their Etsy store[20] and begin selling medallions, with Chris's approval and promotion on 11 December. The group seemed to get a kick out of provoking Christorians, such as when they posted a screenshot of the taser they apparently were intending to buy and later use.

Praetor's legitimacy would continually be challenged by the Watchmen both behind the scenes and out loud, with members often openly deriding Praetor's behaviors and business practices in the general chat of the Place. Naught would also occasionally ping them to try and involve them in a conversation or get an update on their activities. Praetor would generally not respond to these provocations.

The two groups would not come to blows until February 2021, a few months later.

Bella's Introduction

Bella would be first mentioned to us on 28 December, when Chris credited her as the one who either introduced or encouraged the idea of Chris having an "Avatar State." I asked who she was, and Chris responded:

One of our Praetor group friends; she’s the one who made up the lovely animation:
Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation
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Nova, who was part of this conversation, derided the animation as "the gratuitous porny one," to which Chris said:

We are not judging, plus she’s actually cool to talk with.

The conversation then steered towards Chris's "Avatar State" theory, and nothing more was discussed regarding Bella, who she was, or her role within Praetor.[21] Little did we know at the time, the major role that she would play later on.

Relationship With the Watchmen

As a part of the Place server, I obviously interacted with the other members of the Watchmen quite frequently. As far as my memory serves me, there were around a dozen or so members in the server while I was in it, including the currently named members of the Watchmen, "invisible" members who are not documented on the CWCki, and bots. I will be focusing primarily on the interactions I had with the major members of the group, and what I observed about them during the time I was in the server.

The "Toxic Trio"

The main members of the group were the ones that Chris would later come to describe as the "toxic trio," that being Naught, NovaKyle, and MKR. Naught was the de-facto leader, with Nova as a second-in-command of sorts, and MKR provided art used for influencing Chris (she was the one who drew the Lainchu art that I would use as a profile picture when taking screenshots of my conversations with Chris). Conversations with Chris were mostly mundane, but Nova was typically the one who would speak the most to Chris, acting as a sort of mathematician or scientist to help Chris sort out the technical aspects of the Merge. He had an odd way of speaking, a very indirect style that wouldn't really address a lot of the things that the recipient said.

I think I may have started off on the wrong foot with the Watchmen, being so distant upon my arrival. But to be honest, I wasn't really ever interested in their friendship. I knew that we had to get along to a certain degree, but it became clear to me pretty quickly that they were not the type of people I would've liked to be around in any other setting. I found a lot of their discussions to be rather distasteful, making near-constant derogatory remarks towards different kinds of people, and generally just being pretty unpleasant. To a degree, I was used to this kind of discussion in the CWCki Server, but it was always managed and reduced due to the need to adhere to Discord's Community Guidelines, and I could disconnect from these people because they were just random users. But I always felt compelled to check in on the Place whenever I saw activity, on the off-chance that Chris did or said something of note.

Most of the discussion in the second layer was either about Chris, other lolcows (the trio had a particular affinity for discussing the activities of Jacob Sockness and Dana Marie Cain), random hobbies or interests, or politics. Political discussion was particularly aggravating to read when I was just skimming the messages, looking to see if there were any updates on Chris, and eventually I got sick enough of seeing it that I asked for it to be migrated to another channel and leave one solely for discussing Chris (which they obliged). Despite this, I held my tongue and put up with the other Watchmen, and began to view them as the irritating coworkers that I had to deal with in order to continue doing my "job" (documenting Chris, in this case).

Conflict of Interests

Soon enough, conflicts between myself and the other Watchmen began to arise on occasion. As the owner of the CWCki Server, I had a certain amount of discretion when it came to dealing punishment to rule offenders, with some acts meriting harsher punishments than others. However, there were multiple occasions when I gave a greater amount of leeway to members of the Watchmen who violated the rules, often just giving them a slap on the wrist and a warning not to break the rules again. This happened early on, when MKR posted a link to a Google Hangouts call in a public channel of the server, in order to lure potential weens in and then dox them. I obviously didn't want anyone's personal information to get compromised due to MKR's weird game, so I deleted the link and requested she not post one again. She protested slightly, but ultimately didn't post another Hangouts link while I was owner.

Later on came a bigger problem: as is known at this point, the Watchmen's primary method for deterring would-be weens, trolls, and enablers was to dox them. Many people who attempted to contact Chris were neither the sharpest knives in the drawer, nor the most careful, so this was often an easy task for them. The problem arose when it came to delivering the message that they had someone's information to said person. Because the CWCki Server was the largest congregation of people interested in Chris Chan on Discord, it often wasn't out of the ordinary that a person who attempted to contact Chris would end up there. And because the CWCki Server had a strict rule against doxing, this posed a problem for the Watchmen if they attempted to go there and publicly humiliate anybody who did so much as send Chris a "hello" message.

I never fully agreed with the ethics around the Watchmen's overzealous aggression towards anybody who was outside of their little clique, but at the time, I viewed it as a necessary evil to ward off the next potential Idea Guys. Still, that didn't mean that I was going to allow it to happen on the server I was charged with managing.

As I mentioned previously, the Suitress wound up catching the attention of the Watchmen when she first texted Chris, and then left a message on one of his livestreams asking if he saw her text. I didn't wish for harm to befall her, as I mostly regarded her as quirky but harmless, so I extended a verbal warning to her, requesting she not contact Chris again. Once she agreed with my request, I informed Naught, telling him that she would likely no longer be an issue, which he accepted. However, I didn't tell the other Watchmen, which led to one of the members, named Val, posting a link to a video on her YouTube channel which featured her face, onto the CWCki Server. I removed it and spoke to Val, requesting that he simply tell me next time that someone on the server was causing a problem, and I would deal with it. He responded by telling me, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off, so I kicked him from the server[22] (he would later rejoin once he realized that he hadn't been banned).[23]

While this first incident was fairly minor, it was the next one that would kickstart a plethora of further internal conflicts for the rest of the time that I was a member of the Watchmen.

MKR and the Moderators

In an earlier section, I mentioned that when members of the Watchmen arrived in the CWCki Server, Klop granted a few of them moderator roles, including Naught and MKR. Naught was hardly ever active in the server, and often left it due to his distaste towards many of its members, meaning that he ended up losing his moderator status fairly early on and never did anything with it. MKR, however, remained in the server, rarely speaking or doing anything but idling with the role on her account. As the modstaff expanded, eventually a meeting was held, during which it was decided that inactive users with the moderator roles would be removed, and this obviously included MKR, who was an infamous figure and known Watchman who never moderated the server in the first place. It should be noted that this action also occurred prior to me becoming the owner of the server. MKR was quietly removed from the modstaff, with nobody informing her of this fact under the assumption that she would neither notice nor care.

The Watchmen in general had a rather negative opinion of the CWCki Server, viewing the large userbase as being mostly irritating and ill-informed about Christory (which I thought was a rather unfair qualification, given the sheer number of people who were in the server at that point). I don't know whether or not spending so much time around Chris gave them a superiority complex over other Christorians and a desire to gatekeep the community (which would be laughable if true), but either way, they aired their complaints quite openly in the Place, which I always ignored, as I don't tend to go out of my way to incite conflict on Discord. But one thing that MKR would always bring up, without fail, was that mods had paid "tardbucks" for their role. This is in reference to an event in the early days of the server, when Klop promoted a user to moderator shortly after they boosted the server. Klop claimed that his decision was unrelated to the boosting, and the person turned out to be an excellent moderator anyway, so I'm inclined to believe him, and nothing like this happened again, coincidentally or otherwise. However, this was the one thing that MKR latched onto without letting up, and would bring it up constantly.[23]

Eventually, she made it very clear why: she was upset that the moderator position was robbed from her without warning. Bear in mind, this complaint was made an entire three months after the role removal, so it wasn't exactly like she realized immediately. I apologized about this, informing her that it was a decision made under my predecessor, but told her that she couldn't have the role back if she wasn't going to actually moderate the server. She continued protesting, accusing me of lying, and doubting my claim that my predecessor removed the role from her. All of this arguing eventually led me to question why she wanted it despite her very obvious disdain for the server. Her response was "because you took it away," like a petulant child throwing a temper tantrum about her toys getting taken from her. I stood my ground, refusing to return the role to her (even more convinced that she wasn't right for it after that argument).[24]

This was a grudge that MKR never seemed to get over. I would often be at the receiving end of her hostility and bizarre conspiracy theories, suggesting that I was a mole (for some unknown group, apparently) or that I was working for Praetor (who the Watchmen were intensely at war with at the time). The latter occurred because I sometimes advocated for diplomacy with Praetor, seeing as the Watchmen's stubborn hostility was getting them nowhere. At one point, she asked me if we had met before, to which I truthfully told her that we met in the CWCki Server for the first time. I wouldn't find out the reason she asked me this until much later.[25]

All of this is to say that MKR absolutely cannot be trusted when speaking about me. She is motivated by a grudge that she never got over, and this is the reason she has accused me of various things that I never did.

Sean Walker

Sean's profile icon on his Neko Onyx Discord account, drawn by MKR.
And as long as I don't [do] anything stupid in the future, I'll be fine.
Sean Walker, 3 November 2020.

I haven't mentioned TheWCT/Neko Onyx, also known as Sean Walker, very much so far other than in passing, and that's because he's deserving of his own section. During my time with the Watchmen, I didn't interact personally with many of their members in DMs, because I just didn't like very many of them. As I had mentioned earlier, I never enjoyed interacting with the "toxic trio" (as well as some invisible members) due to their topics of discussion being either disinteresting or downright repulsive to me. I didn't tend to participate in their political discussions, as squabbling over politics on Discord is generally unproductive and something I sought to avoid, but I often saw that Sean did argue with them, taking up similar positions to what I would have. He was also generally less volatile than the others, so I ended up feeling like he was something of a kindred spirit, or at the very least, someone I could speak to within the Watchmen who didn't make me want to gouge my eyes out in frustration.

The first time I spoke to him in DMs was 27 October, when I asked him to upload the audio recording that Chris had made for Discord Q&A 9. From then on, we would occasionally have friendly conversations, sometimes discussing Christory, sharing our mutual distaste for the opinions expressed by the other Watchmen, or just having casual chats. While I wouldn't call him a friend (especially now), I suppose that I could say that we were acquaintances of sorts.

The general vibe I got from him was that he was, for the most part, an outwardly polite and fairly kind person who was clearly quite autistic and passionate about his interest in Chris and other lolcows. There were other major aspects of his character that should be appreciated, but I will refrain from talking too much about him right now, as there's plenty of space to go over his actions in great detail throughout this page.

Ultimately, of all the things I had done in the community during this year, being friendly towards Sean has come to be my greatest regret.

Sean and His Ego

One thing that I noticed about Sean straight away, which should have been an immediate red flag, was that he has a massive fucking ego. It seriously rivals that of Chris.

The very first time that we spoke one-on-one, a mere few messages after I had asked him to upload Discord Q&A 9 to his channel so it could be embedded into the CWCki, he asked me this unprompted:

Would you say I've reached "Christorical Figure" status?

I told him I didn't know, and said he should speak to Null if he wanted the role on Kiwi Farms, although he also wanted to know in general. Bear in mind, this was the first time I had spoken to the guy directly, and it wasn't even like he was the leader of the Watchmen (although I'm sure that was his ambition, given what would eventually happen). This would be the first time - but nowhere near the last - that Sean would casually say something aggravatingly self-aggrandizing and I would either placate him or bite my tongue (to avoid an argument).

The way that he phrased certain things had this air of entitlement to them that would have otherwise been normal had he simply not been thinking of himself as a person of importance. Shortly after our initial interaction, we spoke briefly about the possibility of him hosting the uncut Create Unknown interview on his channel. This is how that went:

Sean
Since I had a good talk with those folks, I'll give them the benefit of a doubt and release it right after their Edited Interview gets uploaded to YouTube.
Anaxis
Yeah I was gonna say, we shouldn't steal their thunder

Especially since we didn't pay to sit in on the interview

Sean
They've gained my respect.

So I'll let them have the clout.

Notice the language that he uses, about how he'd "let" the Create Unknown have the clout because they've gained his respect, as though he had any say in whether or not TCU deserved to benefit from their own interview with Chris (which they paid for, mind you).

Later, when I informed him (as a courtesy) that TCU would be hosting the uncut interview themselves since they own the content, this was his response:

Get back to him letting him know that I agree with his conditions.

I did not, in fact, tell the Create Unknown hosts that Sean "agreed" with their conditions, because they didn't know him and he had nothing to do with the "agreement."

This would only continue as time went on, where he would insist on using particular terminology when describing things. When Naught temporarily kicked him out of the Place (which will be discussed later), he kept referring to it as a "coup," as though he had been the deposed leader.[footnote 2]

There are plenty of other examples, so I'm just going to leave a small collection of quotes from him below that demonstrate Sean's monstrous ego:

Examples of Sean's Ego from Within Our DMs
My Internet life hasn't changed too much since I've became a Christorical Figure, so I don't really see the need for me to be removed from there.
After Sean was kicked out of the place by Naught.[26]
How would you describe your relationship with CWC?

cause you already know mine, it's good.

Sean bragging about how great his relationship is with Chris, as though such a thing is an accomplishment.[27]
HA!

payback for me getting removed from the place.

Sean's response to me telling him about how MKR was angry at me over the modstaff situation.[28]
Maybe you could jokingly let her know that if she wants to be a mod again, I have to be allowed back into the place. lol
Same conversation. And no, Sean, I wouldn't do that. Not on your life.[28]
I'm not as Power or Attention hungry as the others when it comes to CWC since I'm on my way to achieve E-Fame through other ways, but I loved to interact with Chris in the Place whenever he'd come online.
It won't be too long before he disproves this notion.[29]
A half of me believes it was an attempted Coup by Kyle/MKR to get me kicked out.
After Sean was let back into the Place. First use of the C word.[30]
and now that you've just mentioned it, this smells and looks like a failed coup.
Second use of the C word.[30]
I have a feeling they'll attempt another coup in the future.
Third use.[30]
So far, no second attempted coup yet. lol
Fourth.[31]

Sean confidently demonstrates that he doesn't know his Christory:

Sean
Question: who do you think the Wallflower was?

judging by what we know, I think it's quite obvious. lol

Anaxis
Her real identity is out there already

[REDACTED], I believe her real name is?

We just can't talk about it on the cwcki, or the server

Sean
Honestly, I think the Wallflower is none-other than long-legs.

in other words, Emily (or Kim Wilson)

Anaxis
Oh, no

She's someone completely different

Emily/Kim is super super careful about maintaining her secrecy

Whereas Wallflower wasn't careful at all, and therefore got exposed

Sean
that's strange, I thought the Wallflower was Emily since they reacted to Chris in a similar way.

The emails that were sent between Chris and the Wallflower remind me a lot of how Emily would brag about Clyde. lol[32]

look at me, I'm a YouTuber/Watchmen/Friend of Chris. Do I beg or want power at all within the CWCki server?
Casual humblebragging, when speaking about MKR and the mod situation again.[33]
imo, he should've handed it to me.
Sean's response to me telling him that Naught transferred ownership of the Place to Nova.[34]

Continuing to talk about the server ownership transfer:

Sean
It should've been me (not because I wanted the power, lol) but I feel like I had the same kind of Shadow figurehead role like Naught.
Anaxis
You literally have a YT channel...
Sean
ok, maybe you now have a point there.

Handing a server that crucial to Christory right now to some random obscure YouTuber is kinda risky.

but from my defense, I'm not the kind of guy who would abuse his power unless his the majority say action must be taken.

I'd be benevolent.[34]

While talking about how long Naught has (apparently) been involved in Christory, Sean demonstrates his weird boner for Naught and Null:

Sean
I discovered Chris Mid-Late High School too btw.

If I continue to play along the way [Naught] and Josh did, I’m probably going to play a larger role in this story a lot more than I do nowadays.

Josh was around 20 years old when he first found Chris.

And 7 years later, look at him now. lol

Anaxis
Yeah...I don't envy him, personally
Sean
I don’t know if I’ll be here in the next 5-6 years, but if I some how am, it wouldn’t surprise me at all since I’ve grown closer to Chris.
Anaxis
I don't know if that's a goal to be aspiring towards
Sean
I made mistakes in life that some could compare to those that Chris has made himself.

And because of that, I relate well to him.[35]

Double crossing [Naught] is a fatal mistake that nobody (regardless of how powerful they are in their server may be) should make.
Foreshadowing?[35]
Safe to say you got coup'ed.
Speaking about me this time, after I got kicked from the Watchmen. Also: fifth use of the C word.[36]

If you're wondering why I'm putting Sean on blast like this despite him being the only member of the Watchmen I marginally liked at the time, keep reading. The answer will come soon.

Sean and Randy Stair

Randy Stair.


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PROTIP:

The following is my opinion, a conclusion I have drawn based off of the facts that have been presented to me. I am not saying that this is necessarily the absolute provable truth; only that this is what I believe it to be from my own perspective. If new evidence arises that contradicts the beliefs I express here, I will happily eat my words.

It is widely known at this point by followers of the Incest saga that Sean had a fascination with lolcow and mass shooter Randy Stair. A common narrative I have seen about this is that he introduced Chris to the story of Randy Stair in a concerted effort to feed him violent delusions and transform Chris into a mass shooter himself, and that this desire was what may have inspired Bella's own supposed goal to have Chris commit suicide. I'll discuss Sean's relationship with Bella later, but for now, I will focus solely on the Randy Stair aspect, and why I believe that this narrative regarding Sean's intentions on this matter is wrong.

I first became marginally aware of Sean's interest obsession with Stair on 6 November 2020, when he wrote me the following message:

bruh, I accidentally got CWC into Randy Stair.

I had no idea who Randy Stair was at the time, nor the extent of Sean's obsession, so I thought little of it, merely commenting on whether Chris followed the antics of fellow lolcows. Sean also mentioned that Chris was getting into the story of Thaddeus McMichael, implying that he learned about McMichael through WCT's YouTube videos, similarly to how he seemed to learn about Stair.[37]

The next time Chris and his growing interest in Stair was mentioned by Sean in our messages was 14 December 2020, when Sean linked me a video created by YouTuber Dillin Thomas, commenting on the "crossover," writing:


ຮṎṈḭᏨ ḭṈຮᾀṈḭtẙ Chris Chan and Randy Stair The Greatest Crossover In History
Stardate 10 December 2020
Made By Dillin Thomas
TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos


oh god...what have I done. lol

This video was made in response to a lengthy Twitter thread that Chris had written recently, talking about Stair and his delusions in relation to the Dimensional Merge. Within this conversation, Sean said many things that, upon retrospect, provide context to some of the events that surrounded Chris and his newfound interest in Stair's story.

The first detail of note is that Sean admitted that Chris discovered Stair on his own by browsing Sean's documentaries on his YouTube channel (Chris had become a fan of Sean's work), and then asked Sean questions about Stair, presumably focusing on his delusional beliefs.

Remember when Chris had that lengthy Twitter thread?

even though he discovered Randy Stair first (via my documentaries), he asked me some things about him.

So in a way, yes. This was my doing.

This contradicts the common belief that Sean intentionally introduced Stair to Chris in a conscious effort to make Chris imitate Stair. While he clearly takes credit for this, and responds to Chris's questions after the fact, the way that he explained what happened leads me to believe that even he is cognizant of the fact that this essentially began as an accident. In this manner, I think he's hardly any more responsible for introducing Chris to Stair than Geno Samuel is for inadvertently introducing the average ween to Chris's story.

Following this, Sean expressed his annoyance at the anger of those who believed that there did not exist any parallels between Chris and Stair, and that the key difference between them was Stair's propensity for violence.

It makes me a little angry that people are getting mad at Chris over having something in Common with Randy, but people shouldn't be surprised at this point.

Randy and Chris actually have stuff in common with each other, it's just that Randy is more excessively violent than Chris.

Chris can be violent in his own way (as Christory has shown), but he will never be as violent as Randy was.

He stated afterward that Chris was overall a happier and more peaceful individual than Stair.[38] These statements, to me, indicate that Sean's intent in teaching Chris about Stair was not to inspire violence, as he admitted that Chris's capabilities for such things are comparatively limited. I think that Sean just wanted to share his obsession over an obscure subject of interest and the lore that surrounded it with Chris, who he considered a friend.

Now, I don't believe that this excuses or justifies Sean's actions after the initial introduction of Stair. Sean could have very easily given short answers to Chris and not encouraged his delusions, but instead he chose to do the exact opposite, eventually playing along once Chris decided to integrate Stair's lore into his own.

Months later, in February 2021, Sean informed me that Naught was unhappy with him for introducing Chris to Stair in the first place, and shared with me his own DMs with Chris, in which Chris first described his thoughts on Sean's docs and made it a part of his delusions, back in November. Naught later criticized Sean in the Place for causing this, and demanded that he tell the truth about the origins of Chris's interest in Stair if the subject were brought up again. Notably, Sean reaffirmed to Naught that the introduction to Stair was accidental.[39] Ultimately, Sean never did get the chance to explain himself.

None of this is meant to defend Sean. His actions following Chris's discovery of Stair were inexcusable, and he should have known better. Even the other Watchmen recognized his failure to take responsibility for influencing Chris (although they notably did very little to stop it). I am simply sharing what I know and believe because I don't think that Sean is the monster that Kiwi Farms investigators make him out to be. Yes, he is selfish and short-sighted, with extremely poor judgment, but I think that it's a stretch to consider him a violent sociopath because of a few bad decisions.

Sean and the Other Watchmen

Chris argues in Sean's favor.

Sean's relationship with the other members of the Watchmen could be described as...tenuous, at best. I would say that if not for the burning hatred that MKR developed towards me, Sean could easily be considered the least popular member of the group. Besides his vocal opposition to many of the political beliefs expressed by the "toxic trio" and his influence over Chris with regards to the Randy Stair lore, he was generally looked down upon by the others, and was constantly the butt of their jokes and insults. Sean generally took these in stride, either firing insults back or letting them roll off his shoulders. Either way, it seemed like Sean was fine with putting up with their disrespect towards him if it meant he could continue being a member of the Watchmen.

However, something eventually happened which led him to be suddenly, temporarily kicked out of the Place on 3 December. When I inquired about this, Sean quoted Naught as having told him that he was too open about his interactions with Chris and that he needed a break.[26] Given the back-and-forth spats that happened and would continue to happen between Sean and Naught, I don't know how much of this claim to believe, as Naught's motives could have been entirely different, and I was suspicious of such, given the absolute contempt the group showed toward Sean. Then again, perhaps Sean was downplaying how much he shared, a fact which would certainly not surprise me now. I don't particularly feel inclined to take either of them entirely at their word, anyway.

Later, on 11 December, Sean would message me again about this matter, claiming that he had a talk with Naught, and that his kick was a result of "politisperging" as well as some gay jokes he made while in there. More tellingly, he said that this was a decision made between Naught, Nova, and MKR, solidifying their positions as "leaders" of the operation. At the time, I was sympathetic towards his position, because I actively disliked the three of them and strongly believed that their reasoning was based on lies, although not to the extent that I would go out of my way to defend Sean to them.[40]

On 20 December, Sean asked me if I thought it was a good idea for him to convince Chris to pressure Naught into allowing Sean back into the Place. I told him that I thought this was a terrible idea, and would only make things worse. So naturally, he decided to do it.[29]

What I didn't expect, however, was that this actually worked. Chris followed through on declaring that Sean had been wrongfully expelled from the group,[41] and with no shortage of arguments and behind-the-scenes grumbling from the trio,[42] Sean was allowed back into the first layer of the Place on 24 December (it was a Christmas miracle, I guess). This was also the first time he began using the word "coup" to describe his short ban.[30]

By the end of the month, Sean was brought back into the second layer of the Place, albeit in a limited capacity,[43] and MKR still openly expressed animosity towards him (just as she did towards me).[44] From what I could tell, his relationship with the others would remain rocky until the Watchmen's breakup later in 2021.

The Approaching Storm (January 2021 - February 2021)

It was 2021, the start of a new year, and I was beginning to see the writing on the wall that things were about to change for me. Chris had stopped regularly answering questions, and so I sought out other ways to document his writings. The Watchmen's war with Praetor was beginning to escalate into a public spectacle, and on the inside, hostility towards me would reach an all-time high. I knew that I was getting into an increasingly unstable situation with the Watchmen, and that I needed to formulate some sort of backup plan in case things went south. This would end up being a critical time for me, right before things collapsed.

The Chroniclings of Chris Chan

With the halting of the Discord Q&As, I suddenly found myself with a drought of semi-consistent content from Chris. In spite of this, I kept collecting and sorting questions from CWC Questions for a while, hoping that Chris would eventually get back to it. Starting from mid-January, I would send him the usual weekly check-ins, asking if he felt ready to answer the questions, which unfortunately went entirely ignored.[45] Seeing as the task merely required sending approximately a single message per week, I kept doing it consistently even when it bore no fruit.

However, something else came about that, while not as interesting as the Q&As in my opinion, was far more dense and filled with informative content. Those wound up being the information releases that I came to call The Chroniclings of Chris Chan.

The Journey to the Merge

On 1 January, a day after Chris declared in the Place that "the Merge is on," he vaguely requested that I "go public with everything that [he has] been sharing with [the Watchmen for] the past few weeks," pertaining to Chris's various musings about the Dimensional Merge. Unsure of what to make of this, I asked him if he meant something specific or if I was just supposed to determine what to release myself. Naturally, Chris wanted me to make all the judgment calls rather than sorting through his own bullshit, so my work was cut out for me as usual. After asking how far exactly Chris wanted me to go back, he left that to my judgment as well.[46]

Since this was now all down to my decision-making, I decided to go as far back as September 2020, when I first joined the Watchmen. While I didn't want to go too far into the past, as the server's logs extended all the way back to September 2019, I wanted to include just enough relevant information that I could release a healthy amount while not spending forever finding, taking screenshots of, and editing messages that I wasn't there for and didn't have the context for. From there, I began collecting what I needed.

It was a lengthy process that took more time than it really should have, although one must bear in mind the inherently mind-numbing effect of combing through months-worth of delusional rambling by Chris to find a few nuggets worth releasing to the public. Eventually, I managed to compile together a large group of conversations from 16 September 2020 to 9 January 2021, and after editing out the usernames of those involved in the conversations (aside from Sean Walker as Neko Onyx, and Peachy, who were both indifferent to their inclusions), I would format and publish this collection to the CWCki as The Journey to the Merge.

Since this had been a rather unconventional information release that was themed around something specific and spanned several months, it didn't feel right to call it something like "January 2021 Discord leaks." That's where I came up with the Chronicling idea, as it would play into the way that Chris saw Lainchu's role, and would be especially useful as a categorizing device if Chris requested more of these types of releases. I started making a habit of creating "forewords" as Lainchu to give context to what was being shared,[47] speaking in character mostly for the fun of it, but also on the off-chance that Chris saw the pages that consisted of Lainchu speaking (which he never did, to my knowledge).

And thus, on 23 January 2021, the very first Chronicling was created.

Lost Content

There's actually a "lost chapter" of this first Chronicling. In the process of putting everything together, I was constantly running all my edits past the other Watchmen, as I wanted their input and involvement. They were mostly indifferent to my work, but one part of my intended release did bother Naught, Nova, and MKR: a pair of screenshots from 22 November 2020, in which Chris spoke about having a vision of the near future, in which one of his "doppelgängers" would be working as faculty at Manchester High School, and would pass away in some fashion in front of a group of students. This event would allow this person's "energy" to be absorbed by Chris, further assisting him with breaking the "Iron Curtain." The other Watchmen in the chat at the time commented on the rather morbid nature of this particular delusion.[48]

When reviewing this, concerns were raised about weens potentially using the knowledge of Chris believing in doppelgängers as a way in. I argued against this point, stating that weens have already done this sort of thing regardless (roleplaying as one of the Sonichu characters, for instance), that this delusion was something Chris could have easily spoken about or would later speak about on Twitter anyway, and that weens were generally not smart enough to look for a clue so specific. In spite of this, the three of them persisted, and I knew the two images were not going to be worth the fight.[25] So I cut them from the collection.

This particular chat was later leaked onto the CWCki, long after the Watchmen's dissolution.

Exchange between Chris-as-Sonichu, Naught, and Nova
Transcript
Chris (as Sonichu)
I fell under a couple of heavy trances and got a massive amount of visions, but the one for the near future that is of great importance is going to happen at Manchester High School in Midlothian, Virginia.

Mama’s School.

Apparently, one of her doppelgängers is working there as one of the faculty, and in the near future, in witness of the bunch of attending students, he will do something and ultimately pass on. Right after, that doppelgänger’s energy and power will flow into this body, and making come full circle with the eventful amount of overpower this body will need for breaking through the Iron Curtain.

Naught
so, good?
Nova
That's a bit, macabre?
Naught
I mean, it was said there's a few counterparts out there
Chris (as Sonichu)
Mostly good, yeah, but also bad, since a bunch of students will end up being scarred by the moment.

It’s still vague on the greater details of the how he will die. And I face fear in stating it would possibly be a suicide attempt.

Nova
And you know, the actual person dying, thought that would take precedence.
Naught
ok, yeah a tad morbid
Chris (as Sonichu)
Or it could be a simple straight up heart attack; still beyond me.

Anyway, I’m calling it as I am foreseeing it.

So, yeah, it’s not exactly buttons and bows with me, either.

Naught
B.hug @Sonichu982
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Chris (as Sonichu)
How crazy it is that we just found out and confirmed that one of Mama’s doppelgängers has been working at the same school that she, herself, had attended two decades ago.

There was a lot I could have included in this first Chronicling that I simply didn't, because of a desire to keep things focused, as well as to not provoke any unnecessary drama. Many of Chris's then-recent messages had to do with people who he got into (usually one-sided) conflicts with in some way or another, whether that be Ben Saint, Opuscon, or Cirrusfire (Opuscon actually was briefly mentioned in passing here). However, one of the dramas cut out actually had to do with the Watchmen's internal conflicts as well. In the segment I entitled New Developments, there are two redacted messages: a large paragraph, and a small sentence. Both of these had to with Sean Walker's banning from the Place, with Chris advocating for him to be allowed back in. Since this was in the middle of a Merge-related textwall, I opted to censor the two messages rather than cut them out entirely, since I thought airing the Watchmen's dirty laundry out in the open would probably not be a very good look for the group.

Just like with the previous lost content, this one was eventually leaked onto the CWCki as well.

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Chris (as Sonichu)
Side-note and firstly, Neko, I understand, was kicked out of the group due to some political jokes that didn’t go over well with everyone. It should go without saying that such type of comedy, if it goes over one’s head or is offensive, you can simply not read it, listen to it, or just tolerate it for the support of our friend. Neko is still a very vital and importan [sic] component and individual in our group. Such differences are petty in comparison to the greater good and ultimate outcomes to come.

With that said, I would appreciate having Neko readmitted into the server, and not to be banned from it again, please.

The argument would continue below where I cut the image off, eventually ending in the Watchmen reluctantly readmitting Sean to the server's first layer.[41]

The Vaughn Interlude

The "gifts" sent to Chris from the fictional group LAnon.

The second Chronicling came about as a result of the sudden appearance of the troll Larry Vaughn. On 3 January, Chris came into the Place with an announcement, as he had just received a goodie bag and a letter from a group calling themselves "LAnon," a rather unsubtle parody of a certain popular conspiracy theory. Impressively, Chris went to the effort to transcribe the entire thing into the Place's general chat rather than just send pictures of the letter itself. He also shared with us the texts he received from a supposed representative of the group, going by the pseudonym "Miss L," and a picture of the goodies he received. The Watchmen dismissed this as the obvious bait that it was, but Chris wanted to "confirm their intentions."[49] The next day, he posted another text from Miss L, leading to more derision of the troll's tactics.[50]

Miss L and LAnon were discussed briefly behind the scenes, but Chris didn't say anything more about them for a while, leaving the Watchmen with little to work with. However, on 14 January, Twitter users began publicly posting about the "ciphered messages" that Chris was sending to them, leading the Watchmen to confront him about it two days later. The initial assumption was that Chris's Twitter got hacked, but Chris would reveal that this was actually the result of coercion on the part of Miss L, who now went by the pseudonym Larry Vaughn, after a character in Jaws.[51]

While Chris was too proud to admit his mistake, the Watchmen continued telling Chris to ignore Vaughn, and this was thankfully his only meaningful trolling effort.[52] Chris would later share small details that Vaughn had sent on occasion, including his likely fake name: Daniel Arias.[53]

Larry Vaughn from Jaws.

A lot of people were confused about the events that had recently transpired around what Larry Vaughn had done, so I figured making another information release would help clear the air on what was happening behind the scenes. After getting permission from Naught[54] (I didn't extensively run my work by the other Watchmen this time as I had previously, due to an increase in hostility that I will discuss later), I compiled another collection, albeit much shorter and less extensive than the last, revealing the effects of Vaughn's efforts before they were revealed to the public. I censored quite a bit in this one, including names and Twitter accounts included in the LAnon letter, as I didn't want unrelated people who didn't respond to Chris to be potentially dragged into his nonsense. I also censored Vaughn's supposed real last name, as that was not public information at the time. Of course, much of this effort would end up being moot later on, as nearly all of this information was revealed by Vaughn himself at some point or another.

I entitled this collection The Vaughn Interlude, posting about it on the CWCki on 4 February, and it seemed to be a rather useful resource for the Larry Vaughn page. Unfortunately, this release was undercut by Naught the next day, when he announced (to the Kiwi Farms) Praetor's involvement in Chris using a taser on a crystal as a way to open a portal.[55] This annoyed me at the time, given how much effort I'd put into compiling the Chronicling, while Naught simply quoted Chris (didn't even include a screenshot as proof) and had the whole CWC subforum panicking for a few days. In retrospect, I suppose that Vaughn was old news by the time the Chronicling released anyway. And given the size of what I am currently writing on this page for no tangible personal gain, I guess I should be used to wasting my own time at this point. Oh, well.

Bella's (Public) Introduction

Chris mentions Bella again.

I didn't know of its importance at the time, but The Vaughn Interlude included Chris's very first mention of Bella (that was made public, anyway), in which Chris stated that she was helpful to him for "trolling [Vaughn] for intel." It had been months since anyone named "Bella" was mentioned, so I asked if she was the animator that worked for Praetor, who was talked about previously, and Chris confirmed that this was correct.[56] Because it was part of the conversation on Vaughn, it wound up being a part of the Chronicling. If I could ask it again, I probably would have clarified what exactly she had been responsible for animating, but given how things would go for Bella later on, I guess that difference wouldn't have mattered too much anyway.

This was the first indication of Bella's self-imposed role as Chris's advisor and trusted confidant, something which would eventually lead to both of their downfalls.

Thinking with Portals

The third and final Chronicling that consisted of messages from within the Place came about as a result of Praetor, and their involvement in Chris's plan to use a taser on a crystal as a way to open a portal and begin the Dimensional Merge. After this fact was revealed by Naught on Kiwi Farms, Praetor wound up being heavily scrutinized by both the Watchmen and the greater CWC community as a whole, even moreso than they had been before when they were just selling medallions and making sermon videos. Now, they were considered to be potential risks to Chris's safety, and the Watchmen were spiraling in regards to what should be done about them.

On 8 February, Caden, the apparent owner of the Praetor Discord account, came into the Place's general chat and began discussing the matter. I don't know exactly what prompted this after months of silence - perhaps Chris or one of the Watchmen DMed him about the latter's concerns beforehand, or he simply noticed the Watchmen's openly-aired grievances in the general chat and chose to respond. Regardless, Caden defended himself by stating that this was Chris's idea, that Chris would not come into permanent ownership of the taser, that the voltage on the taser itself was low, and that they would take responsibility should anything go wrong. Predictably, this was not enough assurance for the Watchmen, with Nova choosing to antagonize Caden while the latter remained fairly calm.

Chris entered the discussion and began arguing logistics with Nova, throughout which Caden would occasionally interject to tease the latter. Nova would attack him in return, while Chris would try to break up the fighting by inserting bouts of random-access humor. Predictably, none of this wound up accomplishing very much other than to serve as the setup for the call that would take place later that night. At the end of the text discussion, I asked if I could Chronicle the exchange, as I believed it might be valuable information for the community to know, and Chris requested I do so.[57]

Conveniently, I had a couple of information pieces that Chris requested the release of on the backburner already: one from 31 January, in which Chris discussed his "past" as a goddess,[58] and another from 1 February, in which Chris talked about the wizard Merlin, and how he fit into Chris's lore.[59] I decided to wait on releasing these pieces until something more substantial could be grouped alongside them, and this fight between the Watchmen and Praetor was the perfect opportunity. So, after receiving permission from Naught,[60] I set to work on creating the third Chronicling.

It would release on 13 February, under the name Thinking with Portals, as a loose theme for this release. This was a fairly low-key event, all things considered, but I'm glad that this small amount of light could be shed on the situation.

I wish that I could have made more of these Chroniclings from within the Place, but sadly, such a thing was not meant to be.

Ethics and My Process

I wanted to talk briefly about the way that I released information, both the Chroniclings and the Discord Q&As. Nowadays, most people who have information to share about Chris that do not already exist in a public forum (such as Twitter), or simply wish to get the attention of an interested crowd, will make an account on Kiwi Farms to share their stories or content. However, this was something I very much did not want to do from the beginning. I desired neither attention nor direct engagement from the community over these releases, so instead, I used the other resource that was available to me - my editor account - and created pages directly on the CWCki itself. For a long time, this seemed to be perfectly acceptable, but in the aftermath of incest reveal, questions have begun to be raised about the role of the Watchmen in influencing the CWCki and its content from this period.

In order to discuss this, I'll outline my process: first, I would ask either Chris or Naught if something was okay to be released, and for Journey to the Merge at least, I asked who wanted their usernames or other information censored. I was always very thorough, and I bring this up because members of the Watchmen would later accuse me of leaking things without permission while I was part of the Place, which is simply untrue.

After taking screenshots and suitably censoring them, I would create a page on the CWCki that described the overall content of the release as well as transcripts of the content, and these were usually fairly clinical in their writing. I would include a "foreword" as Lainchu in order to set the tone, but the rest of it was mostly unaltered writing taken verbatim from the messages that were exchanged between the Watchmen and Chris. On occasion, a few things would be censored, such as personal information and the aforementioned paragraph in which Chris defended Sean after the latter was banned from the Place. But none of these fundamentally changed the context or content of the exchanges themselves.

My point here is that none of the releases were created with the intent to trick or misinform anyone. There isn't some grand conspiracy by the Watchmen to downplay their actions on the CWCki by having an editor (me, in this case) make them look better, or not as bad as they actually are. None of the pages I wrote convey that, and some of them even make the Watchmen look bad. This was just the vehicle through which I delivered my information.

Ethically, I suppose I can understand the uneasiness that might come with an editor uploading their own content, even if it is relevant because it includes Chris. That being said, I openly invite anyone to edit the pages I made if they believe that more can be added or improved upon. I may have created the pages, but I'm not the sole editor.

As for worries that the Watchmen were controlling aspects of the narrative through me, I'd like to acknowledge that doing this was never something they asked of me, and was also something I never did either way. I generally avoided editing the Watchmen's CWCki page, and the one time I did it was not only after I was no longer part of the group, but was also in service to documenting MKR making a fool of herself. I had and still have absolutely zero interest in defending the Watchmen on this wiki, especially after my relationship with them deteriorated significantly.

Escalating Hostilities

As I have been alluding to throughout the previous section, these two months wound up being a time of rapidly increasing hostilities between not only the Watchmen and their perceived enemies, but between myself and the other Watchmen as well. This was not something that went unnoticed by Chris, and would serve as the start of an ever-widening rift between himself and his self-imposed group of protectors.

The Watchmen vs. Larry Vaughn

Most of the story regarding Larry Vaughn's major activities was covered in an earlier section, so I won't waste time rehashing those events. The critical points to remember are that Chris showed the Watchmen Vaughn's attempts to get his foot in the door, and despite the Watchmen's warnings, Chris proceeded to walk directly into the trap anyway. After this, Chris pretended he knew what he was doing the whole time, and Vaughn's activities became insignificant despite his intended trolling plans and numerous attempts to provoke Chris further.

After this, on 11 February, Larry Vaughn made a Kiwi Farms account and started posting in the then-recently created thread about the taser debacle with Praetor, in which Naught was busy leaking information, the most recent of which being a snippet of the call that happened between Caden and the Watchmen on the evening of 8 February, as well as Caden's dox.[61] Vaughn apparently had more to say on the matter, so he started posting about how he allegedly was brought into contact with Caden via Chris, and that the former agreed with some of his trolling plans.[62] All of this was unsubstantiated and based off of his word alone, so I am not entirely inclined to treat these claims as fact.

Vaughn then further doxed Caden by posting his phone number,[63] along with text conversations he had with Chris.[64] In response, Naught posted Vaughn's supposed real name (Daniel Arias) as well as his phone number,[65] both of which Vaughn dismissed as fake.[66] Naught pressed him about his motives, and Vaughn claimed he wanted to end Chris's belief in the Dimensional Merge or get help (despite his actions contradicting this stated intention), which then morphed into a desire to paint Praetor as incompetent, since he believed the group to be "fucking nuts."[67]

This was the last of Vaughn's significant actions, and he didn't have much of an impact overall, with his part in Chris's story ending before it ever really started. However, the fact that he was successful in his first trolling attempt confirmed something to me that I had slowly begun to realize throughout my months with the Watchmen: that they were incapable of guarding Chris from outside influences if their usual tactics didn't work. Praetor was the first of these such instances, with them being easily doxed, but not backing away from Chris despite this, perhaps because they didn't care. As for Vaughn, his momentary grip on Chris would not be discovered until it was already too late.

My point is that the Watchmen have always been more reactive than proactive, only responding to perceived threats after they have made their presence obvious. And by then, the damage will already have been done.

The Watchmen vs. Praetor

The Watchmen had truly found an ever-persistent enemy in Praetor, which refused to go down no matter how hard the white knight group tried. The Watchmen had already tried doxing, and that didn't work, so they resorted to a two-pronged approach of simultaneously demonizing the group and trying to pull Chris out of their sphere of influence. Then again, perhaps putting it this way is giving them too much credit; I have never seen the Watchmen lay out a coordinated plan of attack.

Anyway, Praetor had presented themselves as benevolent and beneficial towards Chris, both financially and spiritually. The former was obviously represented in their sales of the custom-made Sonichu medallions, which Chris got a cut of. The latter was represented in numerous different ways, with the members playing into Chris's beliefs, as well as providing him a platform for the sermon video. To this day, I can only guess at their motivation for doing this. Perhaps it was the way they ensured that Chris would remain interested in their operations, or maybe they were just bored and wanted to have some fun while making some money. The members of Praetor were supposedly high school students (or just leaving) at the time, after all.

Naturally, all of this posed a significant threat to the Watchmen's power. Unlike figures such as Jacob Sockness or random weens and a-logs who demonstrably intended some form of harm to befall Chris, Praetor always presented themselves as being in Chris's corner and acting out of his best interests (from his perspective). This coupled with the fact that they clearly didn't care about their doxes being on the Internet (at least not enough to stop their operations), and the Watchmen found that they could neither convince Chris that Praetor was indeed a threat, nor scare the group away themselves.

This was the subject of much discussion behind the scenes, with various ideas being exchanged about how to handle Praetor, some of them rather ludicrous. Sean believed that they would one day just go away on their own, either out of boredom or fear of retaliation,[68] given the way that groups surrounding Chris have gone in the past (although this ignores the unique circumstances that allowed Praetor to remain in power in the first place). Nova and MKR seemed convinced, without evidence to support this theory, that Praetor were responsible for some kind of fraud, such as buying their own medallions from the storefront to artificially inflate their sales numbers (despite what a terrible and nonsensical business tactic that would be for something this niche).[69] They also - rather unreasonably - wanted Chris to get all of the money that was made from the medallions rather than just a percentage.[70][71] They believed that Chris needed to be convinced that Praetor were actually the bad guys.

I had a different approach in mind, but...let's just say that my suggestions did not go over well with the rest of the Watchmen. I'll discuss them at greater length later on.

As can be seen, the Watchmen had very little to work with, and so no conflict arose with Praetor publicly. But then the taser plans were announced, and suddenly, things turned around. The Watchmen now had the perfect ammunition and opportunity to not only further turn public perception against Praetor, but pull Chris away from them as well.

However, I believe that what the Watchmen did next would wind up unintentionally causing them to architect their own demise.

The Taser Incident

The digital cart image that Praetor used to troll the community, with the Vipertek assumed to have been the device they intended to use (although this weapon is a stun gun, not a taser).

To be clear, according to both Chris and Caden, the stated intention with the taser was for Chris to zap a crystal of some kind in order to open a portal to another dimension. While I believe this to have been a rather reckless and irresponsible idea, given Chris's past history of misusing self-defense weapons, this didn't necessarily translate to harmful intent on the part of Praetor. Unless it was their plan all along to zap Chris for fun (which I don't believe, as such a move would be horribly detrimental to their business, not to mention the legal issues that would arise), I think this paints Praetor more as careless than it does malicious. Of course, this was not the narrative that the Watchmen would fuel on Kiwi Farms.

After Naught created that Kiwi Farms thread about Praetor's plans and all hell broke loose, Praetor re-emerged to discuss things with the Watchmen, and later that night, Caden came onto a voice chat with them. I believe that the members involved at the time were Naught, Nova, Val, MKR, and Sean (who was recording the whole thing), as well as Chris. I actually did sit in for this discussion, although I didn't turn my mic on and only made the occasional contribution through text. Predictably, it was a rather unproductive back-and-forth spat in which no inroads were made. Although his intentions were undoubtedly suspicious, I don't think that Caden was impolite or uncooperative during the discussion; quite the opposite, actually. He seemed quite affable and willing to work through a discussion with the Watchmen, a path that I thought might have been worth exploring. But I was not the one leading this particular charge, so instead, the Watchmen continued to lambast Caden for various perceived slights. Not helping was the fact that Chris pretty firmly trusted Caden (bolstered by his belief that he, as Sonichu, could withstand electric shocks), and continually expressed an obvious desire for everyone to get along.

Eventually, Caden began making light fun of the Watchmen, answering sarcastically to many of their insults and threats. Near the end of this discussion, Sean demonstrated an inability to contain his growing superiority complex by making vague threats towards Praetor.[72] I advised him to reel things back in DMs[73] and in the Place's second layer, as I believed nothing good could come from this tactic. Naturally, MKR told me off for this simple suggestion, so I shut my mouth and allowed things to wrap up.[74] Caden left the call, followed by Chris, and Sean ended his recording.

After having been thoroughly humiliated by Caden in their own server, each of the Watchmen with a public presence began condemning him in some way. Naught posted Caden's dox onto Kiwi Farms,[61] followed by a one-minute-long clip out of context (which I assume Sean edited) of Val laughing at Chris stating his willingness to be purposefully electrocuted.[75] In the post, Naught had written "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed," leaving out the fact that Val was the one who jokingly floated the idea and had been laughing. This was very obviously a way to spin things in order to make Caden appear more malicious than he actually was, and further turn the tide of public opinion against Praetor. I thought this was a rather disingenuous move on the part of the Watchmen, but at this point, I was used to the underhanded methods they used to achieve their goals, so it didn't really faze me. Meanwhile, MKR posted a portion of a snarky text conversation that Praetor had with the Watchmen during that night, further spinning the narrative.[76]

I think that it's safe to say at this point that this whole ordeal wound up accomplishing nothing in the long run. As time ticked by and no evidence of the taser being used came to light, either from video or testimony from Chris himself, interest in this topic slowly faded away, and Praetor would never again make another splash this large. Months later, the full call audio would be released by Sean.

In my eyes, this was the Watchmen's opportunity to change course with Praetor, for better or for worse, and they squandered it. But in retrospect, I think this was much worse than a simple missed opportunity.

By fighting with Praetor out in the open, the Watchmen had a rare moment of showing their true colors to Chris, unfiltered by feigned politeness or roleplaying. This would be the start of Chris's disillusionment with the group, when they would begin to lose him.

Effect on Chris

History shows that Chris abhors conflict between those that he considers friends. Attempting to speak negatively about those he has decided he already likes will have a good chance of causing him to shut down, as he will have a difficult choice ahead of him. This happened when Anna McLerran tried to convince him that Catherine was a troll, and again years later when the Guard Dogs came into conflict with the Teen Troon Squad. And I was watching it happen once more with the Watchmen and Praetor.

Attempts to ward Chris away from bad actors has worked in the past sometimes, as it did with Jacob Sockness and the Idea Guys, but only when it's already obvious to Chris that such people are active threats to him and his well-being, and he wants an out. If Chris believes the person/group is benevolent and is already attached to them, whoever tries to pull Chris away is more-or-less already fighting a losing battle. If the passive group (Praetor) doesn't manage to win him over completely, then the active group (the Watchmen) will at the very least lose some of its credibility in Chris's eyes.

And this was exactly what happened to the Watchmen. For them, this would be strike one.

The Watchmen vs. The Watchmen

It was during this time that the Watchmen became plagued with infighting, with the "Toxic Trio" leading a charge against myself and Sean Walker. There were other members who they didn't like either, but most of their vitriol that I witnessed was directed at the two of us.

While I am no fan of Sean's, I do admit that I felt a little bad about the way that MKR treated him with absolute contempt and clearly didn't respect him at all. I mean, he didn't do much to stand up for himself; he'd always just take the abuse, but still, I was sympathetic to his position because I often found myself in the same boat.

Usually, this would only go so far as MKR insulting me behind my back to Nova (but in channels where I could clearly read what she wrote). I would never respond to those provocations, as I didn't want to incite open conflict. Unfortunately, one day, open conflict simply fell right into my lap without warning.

Handling Praetor

A favorite tactic of MKR's was to make up a conspiracy theory about me and, I assume, use that as a way to justify her treatment of me (maybe I'm rationalizing it too much; she's never needed much of a reason in the first place). I already touched on her suspecting that we had met before (we hadn't) and that I was a mole for some other group (I wasn't), but now I want to focus mainly on our differing perspectives on Praetor.

You see, the Watchmen only had a single mode of attack, and despite their best efforts, such methods were entirely ineffective against Praetor. So I suggested an alternative solution: try diplomacy with Praetor. Have the Watchmen present themselves not as enemies, but as allies. I didn't suggest this because I thought the Watchmen needed to comply with whatever plans Praetor had, business or otherwise, but because it was clear that we were getting no insight into whatever was going on behind the scenes with them, the most valuable information to have if we couldn't just get rid of them. As it stood, like it or not, Praetor held all the cards: they had Chris's ear, had at least two female members who were holding his attention (Annie Renee and ILJ), they were paying and enabling him, and they didn't care about getting doxed. The Watchmen were outmatched, and the only way to improve the situation was to switch tactics. But this was not something that the others were very interested in doing.

Every time that I merely suggested trying something different, Nova and MKR would shut me down, with MKR openly suspecting that I was secretly a member of Praetor all along (for the record, I joined the Watchmen three months before Praetor even came into the picture). She even suggested that I was cutting some sort of deal with them to financially benefit the CWCki Server[77] (exactly how is anyone's guess; I never made a penny off running the server, it was purely a hobby). These were the moments that really revealed to me her unhinged nature, and propensity to leap onto the first convenient narrative she came upon that confirmed her existing biases.

Eventually, I gave up completely trying to get the Watchmen to patch things up with Praetor, having grown apathetic towards both groups and this ridiculous conflict over control of Chris. It was clear they didn't value my opinion, so why bother expressing it? This coupled with a recent incident caused me stop caring about the Watchmen's objectives altogether, an incident which I believe catalyzed my eventual exile from the group.

The Catalyst

Val and MKR express a desire for me to be kicked out of the Place.

On 23 January, the night that Journey to the Merge was published, Val brought up (in the second layer) how he hated all Christubers and wanted their doxes, specifically for "making money off of reading other peoples' work." I expressed the opinion that doing so is not a crime, hardly worthy of a dox. Very reasonably, he responded by calling me retarded. We had a brief argument in which he said that the Christubers were "stealing" open source work (which is not how open source work operates by nature), and I argued that it was transformative, and therefore fair use. This is when things started going off the rails a bit.

In a tantrum unlike one I have ever seen on Discord, Val started deleting my messages every time I would post something, which was frustrating, to say the least. He also temporarily changed his server nickname to "Lainchu," declaring that he was the new Lainchu. I responded perhaps by being a little too snarky, but in my defense, I was pretty fed up at this point by his immaturity. Eventually, I just said "We can agree to disagree" in order to defuse the conflict, but then MKR inserted herself into the conversation and it took an even sharper nosedive. Val declared that he wanted me out of the server, and MKR agreed, making another reference to the "tardbucks" conspiracy theory she had been peddling since getting kicked off the CWCki modstaff.

The argument continued for a little bit, ending with MKR suddenly switching gears and claiming that she was "testing" me, and that this was just a "discussion."[78] Perhaps Sean was okay with putting up with this kind of behavior, but I didn't share that mindset. While this argument was happening, I was DMing Naught, asking for him to do something, as I believed this kind of internal fighting was detrimental to what I thought was supposed to be a team effort, but he just referred to Val's behavior as "banter" and dismissed what I was asking.[79] I soon dropped the topic with him altogether when I realized that he wasn't going to listen, and based off of Val and MKR's messages immediately following the argument, it seemed that Naught was sharing our messages with them behind my back.[footnote 3] In retrospect, perhaps it's on me to have been expecting any sort of professionalism from any member of this group.

MKR's passive-aggressive attitude towards me had officially graduated into outright hostility, and with Val holding the same attitude, Nova clearly being on their side, and Naught unwilling to do anything about it, I realized that this environment was no longer stable for me to remain in. I knew that my days in the Place - and as a member of the Watchmen - were limited.

From that point on, I would only sparsely post in the server, instead choosing to primarily observe, sometimes speaking whenever Chris would come around.

Interactions With Sean Walker

I wound up speaking much more with Sean than I had before due to this increased hostility. Since he and I shared a mutual dislike of MKR (and Nova, to an extent), and were often treated similarly, we sometimes vented about our frustrations with the group to each other. I'm not going to detail every single conversation we had in which we talked about MKR - you can read our DMs if you want to see those - but I will highlight a few conversations that I find important.

On 17 January, when Sean tried to express his opinion on something in the second layer of the Place, MKR responded by insulting him repeatedly. They got into an argument about why Sean was previously kicked, resulting in MKR writing a textwalled screed against him. I do agree with some of her opinions on Sean now, although I wouldn't have expressed them in such a vitriolic way. To his credit, Sean remained fairly cool and collected while MKR continued hurling insults at him,[80] but I was pretty angry to see this happen. We chatted about it in DMs, about how she was a toxic personality, with me encouraging Sean to stand up for himself. This discussion eventually led to Sean saying that MKR would have a thread on Kiwi Farms one day, to which I pointed out that she already had one, although it hadn't been updated in a while. Sean found it, stated that he might consider updating it himself, and we then pivoted away from talking about the thread.[33]

Put a pin in this conversation: it will be important later.

On 12 February, after Chris had tweeted a happy birthday message to voice actress Tara Strong, along with several pictures of characters she had played in the past, Sean messaged me to say that Naught was upset with him. This was because one of the characters included was Ember McLain from the show Danny Phantom, who had apparently been a significant part of Randy Stair lore. This may have well been a simple coincidence, as Chris is not particularly discriminating when it comes to cartoon consumption (unless it's MLP G5), but Naught seemed to be strongly under the impression that this was due to the lingering influence of Sean's Randy Stair docs.

Again, at the time, I was not well-versed on anything having to do with Stair, so Sean recapped everything that happened with Chris watching the docs, and very handily gave me a few screenshots depicting Chris's reaction to Sean's work in his DMs. Given that Sean's Neko Onyx account would eventually be banned and deleted by Discord and there is no evidence of him having archived his chats with Chris (which he certainly would have released by now), these may well be the few surviving fragments of his direct messages with Chris from this period.

Naught demands that Sean "tell the truth" about the origin of Chris's interest in Randy Stair.

This was the point at which Naught told Sean to "tell the truth" to the public about how Chris discovered Stair and his lore if Chris were to mention it again. Sean defended himself by reiterating the point that Chris discovered Stair on his own while browsing Sean's channel, but Naught still insisted that he fix things, perhaps by speaking to the community directly about why Chris was now so interested in Ember's Ghost Squad. As far as I can tell, this never came to be. Sean asked me if this information was "CWCki worthy" and I just told him that it might be if Chris continued to mention it.[39] Of course, there now exists an article on this wiki dedicated to Randy Stair, so in a roundabout sort of way, I guess Sean got what he wanted.

The next day, on 13 February, Sean brought up to me a message that Chris had sent in the Place, expressing his disdain for the Watchmen's recent behavior towards Caden in the Taser Discussion, as well as thinking that they were no longer on the same page as him and were acting as a detriment to the completion of the Merge. Afterward, he edited his message to add on his disappointment towards members of the group that leaked information without permission, and towards conversations that he found distasteful, or a "distract-a-thon." Insightful and intelligent as ever, Nova and MKR responded by saying perhaps the worst possible things, with Nova insulting Praetor directly, followed by MKR claiming that Caden "bullied" her and that Praetor was insincere. They then compared Praetor to Jacob Sockness or Joshua Wise.[81]

I expressed to Sean my still-unchanged opinion, that the best thing to do in regards to Praetor was to lay off them for a little while so that Chris could come out of whatever funk he was in, as well as my apathy towards trying to improve the situation, given the fact that the Watchmen were obviously not going to listen to me. Sean still was convinced that Praetor was somehow in the losing position, a point which I argued against for all the reasons I've mentioned already.[82] By the end of it, I really didn't care who won or lost this autistic battle. I was just there for the show.

Breaking Point (February 2021)

It was time. All the pieces were in place for the Watchmen to totally break down and do something utterly irrational, impulsive, and stupid. Praetor was maintaining their stranglehold on Chris, and the Watchmen's paranoia and desperation was reaching an all-time high. At first, I believed that I could remain where I was by maintaining my low profile, and not drawing attention to myself. But then there was a turning point, one I knew I would not be able to come back from.

Transfer of Power

In the early hours of 13 February, after Chris had sent his message of disdain for the Watchmen, and in the midst of talks about strategies for how to deal with Praetor,[83] Naught abruptly left the Place and ownership transferred to Nova. This immediately raised alarm bells in my head for multiple reasons, so I messaged Naught, asking what happened. Unsurprisingly, he wasn't super forthcoming about his reasons, and the conversation ended with my questions left unanswered:

Anaxis
I saw you took off from both cwcki and the place. Everything okay?
Naught
Yeah, messaged cwc and said let me know if you need anything I'll be around.
Anaxis
But why'd you leave? I saw you gave the place to Nova.
Naught
Cleaning out my server list, i like to be active in the servers I'm in,
Anaxis
You were pretty active in there, I thought

Isn't that also a good place to keep an eye on Chris?

This was a noticeable pattern in my conversations with Naught, where he would simply leave questions or comments unaddressed when he didn't want to deal with them.[84]

Nova took to his leadership role quite quickly, reigniting the discussions over how to deal with Praetor. MKR proclaimed herself to be second-in-command, and immediately decided to provoke me by saying that I should leave the server. I made a single response, saying "And how do you figure that?" but my message was never answered. She then asked me for my opinion on how to deal with Praetor (who she and Nova disparagingly referred to as "Paedovan"), and after I responded with snark ("What, now you want my opinion?"), I told them my honest opinions about Praetor and how to deal with them. Unsurprisingly, they dismissed me immediately and began thinking of new plans, reaffirming to me that engaging with them was a total waste of my time.[85] They moved on to scheming about extracting information from Praetor's members who they deemed weaker links, and I disengaged from the conversation.[86]

Chris propositions MKR and the Praetor girls.

I've seen what happens when crazy people wind up in charge of organized groups, and it isn't pretty. I'm not saying that Naught wasn't crazy in his own way, just that things would get worse under Nova. I needed a contingency. And so, on that night, I archived every single important channel in the Place, so I had a record of events in case I was kicked out without warning.

The next week was fairly quiet and uneventful, and I don't remember very much about it. Naught eventually returned to the server on 17 February, although he did not attempt to reclaim ownership from Nova.[35] The only thing of note I remember from Chris was a discussion in which he more or less propositioned MKR (as well as the Praetor girls) by stating that he found them to be suitable candidates for a sweetheart, the first indication in a while that he was unhappy with his fictional polyamorous marriage. I found this to be pretty funny overall. It's unfortunate that this message did not wind up being a part of my server backup, but thankfully, MKR would tweet out this message by Chris not too long after anyway. So it's already a matter of public record.[87]

And then, quite suddenly, it happened.

The Exile

I was unceremoniously kicked out of the Place, and out of the Watchmen, on the evening of 19 February. Perhaps my reaction to this was a little over-the-top given all the warning signs, but I was furious at the rug having been pulled out from under me in the way that it was. The first thing I did was send a few messages to different people, maintaining my cool at first. I asked Naught why I was kicked out of the Place, and received no response. So then I turned to Nova, and he gave me the runaround in perhaps the most impressive way I had ever seen. His unique ability to continually avoid directly addressing my concerns was quite unlike anything I had ever dealt with before. Feel free to read it below:

Exchange between Nova and Myself
Transcript
Anaxis
Hello Nova. I was kicked out of the place with no notice, and I would like to know why. Please let me know, thanks.
Nova
Not providing a great deal of input and we've got a lot of things to think through as a group.
Anaxis
Not providing input? I was never told I should.
Nova
It's just not really conducive given how everything going on is kind of time sensitive.
Anaxis
And the reason I wasn't providing more was because of Val and MKR's outright hostility to me. What's the point of sharing my opinions if they're just gonna deride them?
Nova
Debate, sure.
Anaxis
If you wanted me to provide more input, then someone should have said something, not just kick me out with zero warning.

If MKR convinced you to give me the boot, you can just say so.

Nova
It would be better from an editorial perspective.
Anaxis
What do you mean by that?
Nova
It doesn't look good if we're not too sure what liaison does what.
Anaxis
Okay?

What does that have to do with me?

Nova
Having more than one person is less desirable.
Anaxis
More than one person for what?
Nova
If you want to help, just help on an outside basis, alright?
Anaxis
Just give me a straight answer

I won't get angry, I just want the truth

Nova
I don't feel the quality or reliability of your work is up to snuff when you only rarely come by, for reasons I can't be sure of.
Anaxis
Again, if you wanted me to come by more, you should have said something, not just kick without warning.

And what work? You mean the information releases?

Nova
Just, keep cool for a while, alright?

At this point, I knew attempting to appeal to Nova's sense of reason was entirely futile. I wasn't even going to bother with MKR; all I'd get from that would be an expletive-laden tirade thrown my way. So I tried the only avenue that I knew was still somewhat sympathetic towards me: Sean.

Sean's Unhelpful Involvement

When I told Sean about what happened, as well as what Nova said to me, he offered to speak to MKR on my behalf to try and figure out what happened. Naturally, the most I got out of that was MKR saying that she and Nova believed that I was untrustworthy, without any further elaboration. Sean then suggested that I try and replicate what he did with Chris to get back into the Place, and at least get back into the first layer. I had no interest in groveling to MKR and Nova, so I dismissed this idea immediately. Then Sean sent me a quote from Nova, and this was where the trouble really started.

Sean started sending me messages quoted from Nova and MKR on the various nonsense reasons they had for kicking me out. Naturally, I was still very angry over what was happening, and was completely unrestrained in expressing that anger to Sean with every new line MKR and Nova attempted to feed me, since it wasn't him that I was angry at. I initially assumed that Sean was asking them questions based on the things I was writing to him, and leaving out my raw reactions. Only when Sean sent me a quote from Nova, reading "Insulting me is real convincing," did I realize that Sean was sending my messages verbatim to Nova and MKR. Now, my fury had turned to Sean for this idiotic bout of decision-making on his part.

He apologized, but still tried to justify his actions, which did not endear him to me at all. I guess he also told MKR that I was angry at him now too, because she attempted to message me, writing "Leave Kat alone" (Kat was another one of Sean's many pseudonyms), but was not delivered for some reason. He tried encouraging me to speak with her, but I refused, not wanting to bring myself into an even more negative headspace.

This was the point at which I also stopped speaking to Sean, now aware of the fact that his stupidity was extending beyond an inconvenience and was becoming an active liability.[36]

The "Evidence" Against Me

Sean's moronic method of gathering information for me worked in a temporary sense, at the cost of regurgitating my unfiltered anger towards MKR and Nova. After I determined he could no longer be trusted, I turned to other members of the Watchmen, sympathetic "invisible" members who knew that the reasons behind my banning were bullshit and were willing to be eyes on the inside for me. From this, I managed to gather a sense of what the accusations against me were.

The Watchmen never allowed me a forum to defend myself, so I figured I would do so here.

First, the accusations that Sean relayed to me.

"Arbitrarily Disagreeable"

I don't like the idea of someone just kind of lurking and only showing up to be arbitrarily disagreeable.

Makes me suspicious.

Nova.

They seem to believe that choosing not to write many messages - because, again, I didn't like these people and didn't want to talk to them unless necessary, especially after the bout of hostility on 23 January - constitutes suspicious activity. They are assuming that a lack of evidence of "acceptable behavior" is the same thing as there being evidence of "unacceptable behavior" if that makes sense. As for being "arbitrarily disagreeable," I believe that this refers to me having opinions that they did not like or share (such as my thoughts on Praetor or the impetus for the argument with Val). It seems they are rather sensitive about someone else having differing opinions to them, as part of the reason Sean was originally thrown out was supposedly because of his political views, which ran counter to theirs. I suppose that they preferred to maintain a cult-like mentality over the Watchmen, where everyone must be of the same mind without exception, and they viewed me as a threat to that intention.

Contrary to their apparent belief, I wasn't disagreeing with them to be disagreeable. Shocking as it may be for them to come to terms with, I simply didn't think the same way they did. And I guess that was something they couldn't handle.

Alleged Leaking

Anon can verify that at one point early on he was.

Leaking information to someone on the farms

MKR. "Anon" is another pseudonym for Naught.

This is complete and utter nonsense. The only Kiwi Farms users I was in direct contact with at the time were a couple of longtime CWCki site moderators who incidentally held accounts on the Farms. Not once did I leak information without permission from either Naught or Chris, to Kiwi Farms members or anyone else. And naturally, MKR provides no proof for her claim.

Subjective Reasoning

I tried being civil with him early on but ever since the leak I grew more distrustful and his attitude started to piss me off.

Bottom line, he wasn't in it for cwc

And he didn't do anything useful, if anything it was very much the opposite.

MKR.

I cannot recall a single time when MKR was "civil" towards me. If by my "attitude," she was referring to my opposition to the way she treated those she viewed with contempt, then yeah, I guess I can see how it might have pissed her off, not that such a thing would be worthy of expelling me.

She accuses me of not being in it for Chris. Truth is, I did initially believe in the Watchmen's mission, and I didn't want harm to befall Chris. Maybe my first priority was releasing information, but that still required me to have a vested interest in maintaining Chris's health and safety.

An evaluation of "usefulness" is obviously subjective, but I think it's fair to say that I put in more effort towards the task I was given than MKR, who, as far as I can tell, just roleplayed with Chris every so often and occasionally drew some mediocre art. I am personally under the belief that occasionally releasing information is a form of protection for Chris, as when there's a steady stream of content coming from him, there's less incentive for outsiders to interfere and provoke Chris into making content for them, like the Idea Guys did during a period of quiet for Chris. Whether or not this line of thinking is accurate to reality, I have no idea, but at least I was doing something.

"Fame"

We are capable of releasing it ourselves

He just wanted the fucking fame.

MKR, in reference to when I made the argument that the information releases were a form of protection for Chris.

In case it wasn't obvious by now, I never took credit for any of my work. It was all created by "Lainchu." So the idea that I wanted "fame" is nothing short of ludicrous.

"Set of Failtrolls"

Now, those were just the accusations I learned of from Sean. Most of their claims were ridiculous and had no evidence to back them up, ranging from Nova and MKR's gut feelings about distrust to outright fabrications. However, once the "invisible" Watchmen began reporting what was being said inside the Place, that's when the accusations went from frivolous to completely bonkers.

I was sent this screenshot first:

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Transcript between MKR, Nova, and Sean:

MKR
He leaked shit about the watchmen and myself early on, to a man on the farms who anon said might be connected to the "mkr's bloody chunks" "delightful children" set of failtrolls
Nova
We're all ideas in the grand lore of things.
Sean
Why not set up a Lainchu account on discord that we can all share to Interact with Chris and have a CWCki account set up as well?
MKR
Anon told him to stop but I suspect he's still in cahoots with them as well as possibly Praetor. He always popped up specifically when we started speaking about them and attempted to downplay their actions, or steer the conversation away from them
Nova
That was pretty suspicious.
MKR
We can't take any chances

Especially on one we know was a former mole[88]

There's a lot to unpack in here. First of all, as I mentioned earlier, I never leaked anything without explicit permission. However, this does give MKR's earlier accusation a bit more clarity, specifying who and what she was talking about in terms of "leaking." And now that I have this clarity, I can say with even more certainty than before that she has no idea what she's talking about.

I do not know who or what the hell "MKR's bloody chunks" or "delightful children" are. Based on the context given, I assume that it was some group created with the intent of trolling her some time ago, but I really have no clue. Naught never told me to "stop" because this was never something I did in the first place.

She mentions me being in "cahoots" with Praetor and my disagreeing with the Watchmen's viewpoints, both of which I have addressed already. And I still don't know what she means by "former mole."

If I had to venture a guess, I think what was happening inside MKR's head was that she was associating me with some other person or group of people who had done her wrong in the past as a way to justify her belief that I was a traitor or untrustworthy. She had always been one to lean into conspiracy theories, so it surprises me little that she would have these insane beliefs without any evidence. I always knew she was slightly unhinged, but I never truly realized the extent to which she was until seeing this.

Within this conversation, Sean can also be seen plotting about what to do with the Lainchu role, something I will discuss in more depth later.

MKR's Thread

A small, perhaps naïve part of me was still hoping at this point that Naught's silence meant that he might argue in my favor, since he never directly showed me hostility, unlike the others. However, this hope was quickly shattered when I was sent another pair of screenshots.

Watchmensource20February2021 2.png

Message in the 2nd layer, invisible to Chris:

Naught
Fuck anaxis, no sense of humour and he told @Kat to add to @MKR thread

Message in CWC layer, in response to Chris asking "What did Lainchu do to be kicked out?"

Naught
@Sonichu982 Lainchu tried to get @Kat too [sic] add to @MKR thread during the Vaughn incident,

Naught was claiming that I had told Sean to add to MKR's Kiwi Farms thread.[89]

My initial reaction was to believe that this was completely made up, like the MKR accusations. But then I realized how specific this particular accusation was compared to MKR's broader ones, and I started doing a little digging to find out what the origins of this one were. It didn't take me long to find them, and realize how absurd this was.

Remember when I said to put a pin in a conversation I had with Sean, in which we both discussed MKR and her thread was brought up? Well, here's the payoff.

Transcript between Myself and Sean:

Sean
Let's be perfectly honest:

One day, MKR will get a thread on Kiwi Farms.

(that is if the site is still up)

Anaxis
She already has one, but I don't think it's been updated in a while
Sean
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454/

oh yes you're right.

lol.

The thread wasn't updated since August 2020.

And if she does keep up with the behaviors, I might consider updating it.

However, getting Naught's support is critical.

Anaxis
If you leak stuff from the place, you'll be kicked out permanently for sure
Sean
indeed, that's the problem.

I know you have my back in a counter-coup, but we need more support.

And this shit is something that will have to remain private...forever.[33]

As can be seen here, plain as day, it was Sean who suggested updating MKR's thread, not me. However, it seems that either Naught or Sean himself was under the impression that, because I pointed out the fact that MKR had a thread that hadn't been updated in a while, somehow this translated into me suggesting - implicitly, I guess - that Sean should update it. I hope I'm not alone in thinking that interpreting my statement in this way is an incredible reach. After that, I had even warned him that updating the thread would get him in trouble!

Even more laughable is the idea that, had Sean gone through with this idea - which, again, he hadn't - I would have somehow been responsible for his actions, as though he was not capable of making his own decisions or judgment calls.

But the biggest revelation that I received from all of this was about Sean, in regards to both his intelligence and his moral character. The only way that Naught would have been able to see my DMs with Sean would obviously have to have been if one of us leaked them to him. So this means that either Sean went fishing for reasons to indict me for something and intentionally twisted the context of our DMs as a way to justify the Watchmen's actions, or he shared these DMs with Naught, who then made the claim that I was trying to convince Sean to do the deed, and he just went along with Naught's narrative, sincerely or not. Either way, given how many times I privately supported Sean in the past, I found it absolutely appalling that he would turn on me on a dime like that. But again, I suppose this shouldn't have been any sort of surprise. To this day, I cannot tell if Sean was manipulated into this line of thought or if this was intentional on his part.

This was when I first realized something very important to understand about Sean: for him, the line between malice and stupidity is extraordinarily thin.

Chris's Reaction

Truth be told, as much as I hated being unceremoniously kicked out of the group, I could really care less about being a member of the Watchmen. The important thing to me was documenting Chris, and maintaining access to him, something which I knew the Watchmen were desperate to deny me. Sure, I might miss out on a few Merge ramblings in the Place, but as long as I could keep asking him questions, I would be happy.

And so, when I was exiled, I immediately made sure to message Chris, letting him know what happened before the narrative could get twisted. And to my surprise, I later learned from an insider that Chris actually defended me in the Place, while Nova continued feeding him nonsense about me.

Exchange between Nova and Chris (as Sonichu)
Transcript
Chris (as Sonichu)
What did Lainchu do to be kicked out?
Nova
I just found them unproductive at times.

If someone can be kept at a distance, as per their function, it would seem more apt to do so.

If you want something out, it'll be out, meantime, I'm personally none too sure.

Chris (as Sonichu)
At this point, especially with Lainchu's role, and compared to how often I type something on this server, being "unproductive at times" is not a valid reason.
Nova
Sporadically useful, they're a poor researcher and aren't to [sic] sure on their own ethical obligations considering.
Chris (as Sonichu)
What were you having them research?

And surely they could research other things as well.

Nova
General information on keeping abreast of whatever malevolent people were trying.

They were invariably a week behind anything I could prove and about a month behind on what I could hedge against.

Chris (as Sonichu)
They do work very hard on that research, and beyond the abuse upon Chris and I. There is a whole lot of effort that goes into waiting and observing input from others online of them being abused by some Hater or really bad individual.

Cut him a bit of slack, since I have been more focused locally and keeping private lately.

Plus, the freaking pandemic and shit.

Nova
All the better, his obligation to editorial standards mean that either reporting directly to him, or clearing information for use allows better security.
Chris (as Sonichu)
At the moment, I continue to work on the recovery of this body and brain from the recent realization of lack of cuddling and such, and even further its healing and re-energizing. And I'm fixing to hit the hay for the night (regardless of witching hours affecting this body, which during the time before falling asleep, I meditate).

Please consider letting Lainchu back into the server, Kyle.

Thanks.

Nova
Consider sure, as close as we can find advisable is a restricted role.

So, knowing what I know, say that.

Also: "Hi."

As can be seen, Nova made a few roleplay-related lies about me and my role as Lainchu (I was certainly never told to research anything),[90] and when Chris eventually asked me about it in DMs, I had no choice but to play along with the lie to prevent confusing him.[91]

In a strange sort of way, it was kind of nice having Chris defend me so earnestly, even though I had no idea why he felt an attachment to me, given my mostly impersonal demeanor towards him. Still, after everything that happened with Praetor, it was clear that Chris still desired to have everyone get along, and that my being kicked out of the Watchmen represented a sort of fracturing of his friend group.

Birth of the Impostor Lainchu

I was quickly receiving reports from my sources that the Watchmen were planning to replace me as Lainchu, a logical next-step to kicking me out. Initially, they tried to ask Klop if he wanted the role back, but he turned them down. So then Sean volunteered for the role, and eventually it was decided that he would take it on.[92] I had to work fast.

I sent Chris a warning, letting him know about the fabricated accusations levied against me by the other Watchmen, and the fact that they would attempt to replace me with another Lainchu account. I also sent him a group of birthday drawings that were made for him, given to me by volunteer artists in CWC Questions. It was a few days early, but I was unsure at that point if the Watchmen would try and convince Chris to block me, and I didn't want the artists' efforts to have gone entirely to waste (although Chris didn't acknowledge the drawings directly, sadly).

After I sent everything, Chris thanked me and stated that he would keep what I said in mind, and left a wink emoji on my message talking about the "impostor Lainchu."[93] It was vague as all hell, as is standard for Chris, but it might've been a good sign. Only time would tell.

Several hours later, a new Lainchu showed up in the CWC layer of the Place.

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This was posted after Naught accused me of trying to get Sean to add to MKR's thread in response to Chris's question about why I was kicked out.

MKR
He turned out to not be a very nice guy. But we have a new channler [sic] in place to communicate with the true oc lainchu and resume function of the job.

It's regrettable, but we don't want people saying mean things behind our backs on the farms and leaking sensitive information shared in confidence here.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
Hey @Sonichu982 , I just wanted to let you know that I'm okay. If you need anything, I'll be in DMs since I don't got much going on for me. 😇
MKR
Welcome lainchu~
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
hiiii[94]

So yeah, I figured that it wouldn't be long before Chris fell for their ruse and started ignoring me. That was the flipside to the ease in which I could slip into a migratory role like Lainchu: it would be very easy for the Watchmen to pretend somebody else was me.

I knew I would be fighting a likely losing battle. But I didn't care. If I was about to go down, I would go down swinging, if only to spite the Watchmen.

Further Fracturing

I didn't realize it until months later, but this event, my getting kicked out of the Watchmen and Chris trying but failing to convince them to reconsider, was another blow to the Watchmen's credibility, so soon following up their open spat with Praetor. As the months would go on after this happened, Chris started interacting with the group less and less often, sometimes expressing his distaste with them and their actions.

This was strike two for the Watchmen.

The Turbulent Period (February 2021 - March 2021)

This was where my story should have ended. This was the point at which I was no longer with the Watchmen, and soon enough, would no longer be talking with Chris, either. That was how things were supposed to go. Perhaps had things gone this way, I wouldn't be here right now, writing this story. A part of me wishes that was the case.

But that was not the way that things turned out. And I found myself in an unexpectedly turbulent time as events began to shift around me.

The Impact of Betrayal

The messages Praetor sent me after I friend requested them, operating under the mistaken belief that I was one of the Golden Medallion customers.

As you might have noticed at this point, I was initially livid over what happened with the Watchmen. I had been betrayed, and in the moment, I wanted revenge. I wanted the Watchmen to feel the sting of what they had done to me, and I came up with a few ideas on how to do so.

I first considered fully leaking the chats I had archived from the Place. This would expose the Watchmen's stupidity to everyone and showcase their failure to protect Chris. But after some more thought, and discussion with the insiders, I decided that this would be a foolish course of action. For one thing, there were several Watchmen whose presence was not public and had not done anything wrong, and so by attempting to punish a few guilty people, I would wind up hurting several innocents as well. This would also effectively betray Chris, who still trusted me and was the only one who vouched for me when things went sideways. And finally, this did not guarantee the Watchmen would fall: if anything, this might have incentivized them to migrate to a new server and tighten security, potentially losing me access to the information that my insider sources would gather for me. So that wasn't going to work.

The other thing I considered was contacting Praetor, and seeing if I could help them in exchange for further documentation of Chris. If the Watchmen were so fearful of me being a double agent for Praetor, I figured, why not do exactly what their fear suggested? I would become the monster that they already believed me to be. It wouldn't be like I was betraying the Watchmen's trust; they already didn't trust me and already betrayed me first. Even if Praetor were uninterested in my assistance, I figured I could at least congratulate them on so effectively trolling MKR.

At first, I began to go through with this plan: I sent a friend request to Praetor, and when they announced their Golden Medallions and the accompanying exclusive Discord server, I asked Chris a few times for an invite there (a request that went ignored). Even though I knew Praetor weren't exactly the angels that Chris believed they were, I was determined and angry enough to join them just to spite the Watchmen.

But then, soon after, a set of circumstances occurred that allowed me to maintain contact with Chris, without the need for consent of a protectorate group like the Watchmen. And suddenly, I realized that I didn't need Praetor at all. Chris would still talk to me in DMs, and given the negative spotlight that was already on Praetor, I figured that a partnership was just not worth it. By the time they responded to my friend request, I just didn't feel compelled to message them.

And so, with all routes for revenge closed off to me, it allowed me to cool down and think more rationally. Soon enough, my anger dissipated and was replaced with indifference, and even a bit of relief. It dawned on me that I was now free: I no longer had to read the Watchmen's aggravating opinions or tolerate verbal abuse from them, nor did I have to give their members any leeway on the CWCki Server for misbehavior. And given that Chris still spoke to me, I could continue documenting him just as I had before. Nothing of value was really lost.

Of course, this didn't mean that I was going to still be nice and cheery with them. If they were going to try and lock me out of the loop, then I would gladly return the favor.

Chris and the Watchmen's Gambit

Contrary to my initial assumptions about what the Watchmen would do once I was kicked out of their group, they didn't actually try to pull me away from Chris at first. In fact, according to my sources, Nova seemed almost tolerant of the idea of me speaking to Chris through DMs as long as I didn't negatively influence him, and as long as Chris didn't recognize me as "Lainchu" anymore. Unfortunately, the Watchmen quickly became under the impression that I was doing the former, and as for the latter, well...I'll get to that soon enough.

The first signs of Chris's outright rejection of Sean's version of Lainchu (who I will be referring to as the Impostor Lainchu from now on) came about during the Masturbation discussions, on 27 February. To summarize, most of this conversation was Chris (now no longer roleplaying as Sonichu) complaining about how tiresome and lonely the act of masturbation was, and was an indication of his growing desire to have a physical partner, not just imaginary ones.[95] Most of the discussion, while amusing in its own right, was fairly irrelevant, until the Impostor Lainchu showed up.

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Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
Sex is better when its with somebody you love, not with some stranger you just met like a couple minutes ago.
Chris
I agree with you on that comment. But, on the flip side, you're not the original Lainchu.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
I like to describe myself as a direct descendant of the Original Lainchu.
Chris
Still, @Nova, it was most unfair of you to simply kick him out the way you did. And such lame excuses.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
personalities will be different, and the individual that is given the chance to possesses my powers must be somebody who won't use them for their selfish desires. Its earned, not a given.
Chris
Anyway, I'm still going through my emotions. Sonichu is having a tough him of his own resyncing with his body as well.

Not only did Chris acknowledge that he recognized the attempt at fooling him, but he also actively criticized my banning.[96] This was the first time I realized that perhaps I hadn't given Chris enough credit. With the knowledge that Chris is extremely gullible and falls easily for paper-thin online personas claiming to be things he wants, I was genuinely surprised that he didn't fall for the Watchmen's tricks. He could see that there was a hostile action taking place, and didn't accept it. This isn't a significant achievement on Chris's part or anything, just something that caught me off guard.

According to my sources, the Watchmen had begun spiraling even before this happened. Once Praetor began sales of their Golden Medallions on 23 February (which enabled access to their ever-secretive "Golden Church" server), it seemed as though the Watchmen's morale had taken a sharp nosedive.[97][98]

On 5 March, MKR posted the following to her Twitter account, addressed to Chris:

MKR ragequits.
You know what, I'm done. Fuck you, I'm not going to pretend anymore and I'm not going to sit by while you play with stun guns and these dumb teens. Have fun babysitting yourself. I doubt you'll even care.
MKR's then-final tweet to Chris.[99]

She would temporarily deactivate her Twitter account shortly after posting this.

This hilarious reaction quickly garnered attention from the users within the CWCki Server, many of whom were convinced that this signaled the dissolution of the Watchmen as a group. The tweet itself also became a favorite copypasta in the server for a while.

As amusing as I found this to be, I knew it was just a front, something which was confirmed by my sources the very next day:

Cwc and I did make up to an extent, but I'm still going to keep the public thinking I quit.

This might lul preator [sic] into a false sense of security

MKR, being completely delusional.[100]

I was later given a full conversation that Chris had with the other Watchmen, including the Impostor Lainchu (Sean was apparently alternating accounts when speaking to Chris). Chris did speak a little with the Impostor Lainchu, who informed him about a couple of members leaving the server because he didn't stop by as frequently (which may have been a lie constructed to guilt Chris into coming into the server more often). Chris explained that the break he was taking was due to the Watchmen's recent behavior, specifically citing them banning and attempting to replace me, as well as picking on others.[101]

The Watchmen Attempt to Guilt-Trip and Pressure Chris
Transcript
Chris
Hey, @everyone.

I do sincerely apologize for not checking in with all of you for a while.

The resyncing with my body has been difficult, but progressive.

Nova
It might feel more heartfelt without a reason, giving a reason and no explanation just sounds like another way to shut things down.
Chris
Well, I have been sensing and feeling massively strong energies and events, and it's been difficult to think clearly at times.

So, to give an explanation is a bit much at the moment.

Especially with the heavy energies I have felt today that left my body quaking quite a bit.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
I'm glad you're still around. We were getting sick and worried about you.

[Replying to "Especially with the heavy energies I have felt today that left my body quaking q..."]

is it painful?

Chris
Mildly; more of an annoyance.
Nova
I've seen people who kind of act like that, not distinctively narcissistic, but has some

comparable elements.

Narcissism is fine as long as you win.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
[Replying to "Mildly; more of an annoyance."]

it could be worse, but I'm relieved you're doing fine for the most part. (just promise to keep in touch with us, ok?)

Chris
Is Bismuth still on? I don't see his name on the online/offline list, or did he change it again?
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
he changes his name in here every once in a while.

and only appears offline.

Nova
Val left. Don't know if you'd noticed.
Chris
Hmm
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
[Replying to "Val left. Don't know if you'd noticed."]

RIP.

Nigel's also gone.

Chris
That is a shame.
Nova
Just look over what led to it. Pity is useless on it's own.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
^
Chris
I see
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
you were gone for so long that they assumed you'd never return.

so they quit.

Chris
That is a bad assumption to make.
Nova
I'm an asshole, but I'm at least affable enough that nobody cares.
Chris
Yep, the paradigm shift did not work favourably here.
Sean
Hi Chris! glad to see you back here.
Chris
Hey, Neko
Nova
You didn't ask, but it's obvious to say I'm cross too.
Chris
I get it, I should have checked in sooner. Between the events that have been happening and being sensed and all, and frankly, having to reconsider y'all's recent behaviours and whatnot, and looking further into the future and the present to analyze everyone and everything, I had felt it best to take the break.

It was nothing personal.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
I heard MKR got angry at you for a bit, are you two fine now?

your absence dealt an amount of stress on her.

Chris
I mean, Bismuth's leak has been forgiven, but then y'all ditched Anaxis and replaced him, and then there's the bro-ish habit of picking on others in jest that can be misinterpreted; I felt uncertain.

I have talked with Meghan.

And I have apologized to her.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
good.
Chris
I am attempting to practice better selection and analysis of individuals as friends, so it can remain that such things as what happened with Vaughn be the very last that happens with me, or Sonichu in that case.
Sean
[Replying to "I mean, Bismuth's leak has been forgiven, but then y'all ditched Anaxis and repl..."]

I have no qualms with anybody you're choosing to befriend. You're an adult, and can choose who you want to associate yourself with.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
[Replying to "I am attempting to practice better selection and analysis of individuals as frien..."]

better to be safe than sorry.

Nova
Life is loud, the only option there is is asking questions and if people want to offer meaningful advice.
Chris
Yes
Nova
A lot easier to know someone is lying with facts, but you don't need much.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
^
Peachy
Welcome back 💜💜
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
look at their body language and listen to the tone of their voice.

that's where liars can be exposed.

Chris
[Replying to "look at their body language and listen to the tone of their voice."]

Harder to do that through the Internet. But my abilities to read others' auras and intentions through electronic messages has improved. (edited)

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
how long did it take you to improve?
Chris
It's a soulful ability, and I was able to practice it on the one hand while I was in Sonichu's body. And on the other hand, with my body, Sonichu was able to tap into it and learn it's better uses not only for himself, but for the mental record of my body.
Nova
Not really a testable concept.

And regardless it's not a standard of evidence acceptable by anyone else.

I think that's part of why there are biblical standards for prophets.

Chris
[Replying to "Not really a testable concept."]

Says the cynical brainiac who continues to over think math details based on local physics, when the need for that is null, since it is multi-dimensional.

Nova
If it physically exists, physics applies.
Chris
Fair
Nova
I'm an optimist, just that cynicism is how you stay an optimist.
Chris
Not really, the way to optimism is to look and count the positive blessings in everything.

Half Full, or Half Empty with you?

Sean
[Replying to "Not really, the way to optimism is to look and count the positive blessings in ev..."]

I think that way as well.

anything good that happens, be grateful for it.

[1 👍 reaction, likely from Chris]

Chris
Even if you count both by measuring the full, and then measuring the empty space that has the potential to be filled.
Naught
[Posts an emote]
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
sup Bis.
Chris
Hey, Bismuth.
Nova
No, just correct, optimism is useless in an investigation.

The perfect optimist or cynic would probably have died very young.

Chris
[Replying to "No, just correct, optimism is useless in an investigation."]

I could argue that in certain situations, the combined viewpoints of optimism and pessimism can still be very useful in an investigation.

Nova
Just saying something in the middle isn't really a point of argument.
Chris
It's not a riddle without the middle.
Nova
There's really no way to overthink, assuming the validity of the rationale.

And it's a poor excuse when things go wrong.

Chris
On when things go wrong, or the result is a loop, there is opportunity to learn, revise, and find the conclusion. (edited)
Nova
Easy to just say these things. (edited)
Chris
Better to say when not offending than to keep quiet and not be heard.

Anyway

It's been a long day for me, and I'll be breaking for supper shortly. I will check y'all again in the near future.

It was now clear that the cracks in Chris's relationship with the Watchmen were deepening, no doubt increasing the latter's confusion and paranoia. And like a cornered animal, they began lashing out at the nearest target: me.

A Medium's Guidance

The screenshot I posted to this site.

The last chronicling I wound up making - and the only one that did not originate from within the Place - was called A Medium's Guidance. On 9 March, early in the morning, Chris sent me a handful of messages that he requested I chronicle: first, he affirmed that he still considered me to be the "one true channeler" of Lainchu, solidifying his rejection of Sean's iteration. Next, he began telling me about the "guidance" he received from "a very insightful medium," and the various ways that he believed she helped him. He concluded the message by granting me permission to share what he wrote with the other Watchmen.

This told me quite a bit. For one, there was the continued confirmation that Chris was still left unconvinced by the Watchmen's attempts to pull him away from me. This also revealed another force of influence on Chris's life at the time: an unnamed medium, who I would later learn was Molly the Medium, somebody who Chris had recently pledged to on Patreon. And lastly, Chris seemed to believe I was still on friendly terms with the other Watchmen despite what they did, an assumption that I was in no rush to correct, given Chris's distaste for conflict among his friends.[102]

But most importantly, Chris had given me something to publish. With my exile from the Place and Chris no longer answering the Q&A despite my continual reminders, I recognized this to be a potentially rare opportunity to document something new. But doing so proposed an obvious issue: making it known publicly that I still had contact with Chris would draw the ire of the Watchmen. Would it have been better for me to hedge my bets and wait until something more substantive came along before documenting, lest the Watchmen begin redoubling their efforts?

Turns out, I barely had any time to contemplate that question before I found myself basically thrust into action. On 13 March, Chris posted his Affirmations List and Lovers Attributes List in the Place, both of which have since become a matter of public knowledge. He opened the discussion by writing this:

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I will be writing out a list of my past and lingering self-criticisms and judgments, as well as a counter-list of affirmations to better motivate and remind my body and brain that it is safe to utilize its powers and abilities.[103]

Immediately following this message, Chris wrote:

Perhaps you all may have heard how I came onto this from an Anaxis bird.[104]

Setting aside Chris's mangling of a common idiom, the way Chris phrased this statement inadvertently had the effect of blaming me for introducing this idea to him, when what he likely meant was that I was to act as a messenger and tell the Watchmen the information he requested I chronicle from within A Medium's Guidance (although he did not tell me he was writing an affirmations list, something which I guess he forgot). Unfortunately, the obtuse statement made by Chris did not convey this idea, not that I believe the Watchmen wouldn't have been suspicious of me anyway if Chris brought me up. In reality, if there was anyone influencing Chris to write the list, it was Molly the Medium. But the Watchmen were not convinced.

I encourage you to read the rest of the Affirmations List page, it's very entertaining. Before posting that, however, Chris wrote the following and shared the Lovers Attributes List:

I also, in the interest of love and relationships in this universe, composed a multi-column list of the attributes of my loves.

[Picture of list]

It can be certain that should I attract and meet anyone on that in this universe, they will take on the common attributes between them.

Hey, @MKR, how many of these do you feel you match up with?

But of an exercise for you to read, and look into yourself as well.[105]

That's right: for the second time, Chris very unsubtly tried to nudge MKR into a relationship with him. It's too bad she didn't take him up on the offer. If she had, perhaps Chris wouldn't have gone to jail a few months later.

Anyway, the reason I bring all of this up is because of the discussion that took place a couple of days later, on 15 March. Nova, MKR, and Sean seemed convinced that I was feeding Chris ideas (Chris mentioning me made me a pretty easy scapegoat), and were strategizing on ways to convince Chris that their Impostor Lainchu was the real one. They also misattributed the creation of the list to me, and believed that I would leak it without Chris's permission, thus outing me as the "fake."[106] Unbeknownst to them, Chris had never actually sent me the list in the first place; I only had it because of my sources.

The Watchmen Discuss Me and Lainchu
Transcript
Nova
Anaxis is still giving Chris ideas.
Sean
How do we know this.
Nova
Chris conatantly [sic] mentions it.
Sean
Is Anaxis still Lainchu to Chris?
Nova
He's always referred to him as Anaxis. So there's that.
MKR
It's a problem
Sean
great, there's a dispute over the identity of Lainchu.

I'm the true and honest Lainchu.

Nova
We can use the SD thing.

As something only the real Lainchu would know.

Sean
SD?
Nova
Chris gave me a dimension because I asked.

SD-49

Sean
hmm.
Nova
Canonically we can place them there, whatever, basically a blank slate for the lore other than that I run it and it's for basically dimensional refugees.
Sean
So everybody in here but Chris recognizes me as Lainchu?
Nova
Chris tentatively does, eventually still will.
Sean
he's coming around (as seen in the previous chat we had).
Nova
Just that he's receptive to Anaxis manipulating him on some pretense that he's sorry.

Anaxis got him to do the list he made recently.

If you get it, don't share it, I don't think Chris marked it, but I said he should, because Anaxis will eventually.

Sean
This Lainchu crisis is like the shit over who the real president of Venezuela is.

what will happen if Anaxis shares it? (edited)

Nova
Chris will be able to ID the leaker.
Sean
And Anaxis is finished?
Nova
I hope.
Sean
I haven't gotten anything from Anaxis in nearly a month now. he either now knows that I've replaced him as Lainchu or he believes I've withdrew or something. lol

All of this was demonstrating the Watchmen's delusional paranoia, and I didn't even have to do or say anything. I could just chill and they would still believe I was up to no good. In one way, this was highly amusing. In another, it was very disturbing.

By the end of all this, I felt emboldened to release the Chronicling, since I knew the Watchmen would assume the worst of me no matter what I did. And so, on 17 March, it went public, to the intense displeasure of the Watchmen.

The Lost Chronicling: A Future in Motion

I would be lying if I said I didn't somewhat enjoy witnessing the Watchmen getting triggered over the release of the latest chronicling. Sean was especially salty about the whole situation.

The Watchmen React to A Medium's Guidance
Transcript
[REDACTED]
Looks like Anaxis is still being Lainchu. He posted this chronicling from Chris.

https://sonichu.com/cwcki/A_Medium%27s_Guidance

Wonder if that medium is the Molly the Medium woman Chris followed on Patreon last month.

Nova
Still trying to make Anaxis be less pissy with me.

Probably Molly.

https://www.mollythemedium.com/

Sean
Except he's no longer recognized by the Watchmen as "Lainchu".
Nova
This kind of states otherwise, makes me wonder what Anaxis has been saying outside of this.
Sean
Is this the Liquid Chris situation again?

lol.

Nova
Basically, but Chris will obviously gravitate to the bigger simp, or possibly the one that at least tells the biggest line about FATED shit.
MKR
So fucking stupid
Sean
Jfc.

I

Am

Lainchu

Nova
If we wanted to use this to break 2 lies at once. Did you bring up the SD-49 thing yet?
Sean
Not yet.
Nova
Basically, a whole "I believe you've been fooled by people misrepresenting themselves as my true host, Lainchu is currently in SD-49 and it could serve as a means of positive identification going forward."

But this psychic medium shit, Chris has wasted at least 70 dollars so far...

Wait, 125.

MKR
Eww
Nova
It's ambiguous in terms of the format.

One of the two.

Sean
this looks so obviously edited that Its sad to look at.

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Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
yeppers.
Nova
I think that was a the [sic] message he allegedly sent to someone else to post, i.e. himself.

bold text

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
So does my predecessor have another Discord account called "Lainchu"?
Nova
It's the one he used, so, ya.

Lore reason, he's bitter that he was found to be unsuitable as a host.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
that might explain a lot.

Now it makes more sense to me why Chris talks to Anaxis still.

And to be honest, I don't blame him at all.

When you have multiple Lainchus in your DMs, you'll be left confused as fuck. lol

Nova
Maybe change the screenname to Lainchu (Current Host)?
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
or maybe, Lainchu (SD-49)?
Nova
But then Chris'll say its an alternate version.

Even if I can point out later that it's technically not possible for that to be true

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
The Lainchu he's talking to in DMs when compared to the Lainchu he's speaking to in the place are completely different people.

I feel like part of the reason why Chris hasn't completely caught on to mine is because he knows that other Lainchu a lot longer.

it may sound obvious, but Chris might have some sort of emotional connection with Anaxis.

Nova
Chris uses it because it's an in to Anaxis. He's shit at relationships, so the fact that Anaxis is barely there and basically gone, that's why he wants me to bring him back.

They also continued plotting ways to wrench Chris away from me, and several hours later, Chris sent me this:

Just checking, but you still have the connection with Lainchu, herself, right? And if so, what is the her [sic] present location and her general status?

The timing of this message was obviously highly suspicious, so I held off on answering and instead asked my sources for intel. In response, I received a folder of screenshots depicting the Watchmen scheming for over three hours about how to manipulate Chris back into their favor.[107] And it was perhaps the most try-hard shit I've ever seen.

The Watchmen Discuss How to Brainwash Chris
Transcript
Nova
Chris uses it because it's an in to Anaxis. He's shit at relationships, so the fact that Anaxis is barely there and basically gone, that's why he wants me to bring him back.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
He's still in the CWCki Server, but he's not as frequent as he used to be.
Nova
I think he's in the process of trying to come up with more stuff for my section?

I'll wait till he does something I can act morally outraged at.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
How long has Anaxis claimed the title of Lainchu?
Nova
Since [Klop] quit the role, maybe 6 months?

Caught Anaxis in a lie.

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Least in terms of "I was instructed to chronicle the following message, so I present The Chroniclings of Chris Chan: A Medium's Guidance."

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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God willing, I will outlast both of them.

this is only my 1st month.

Nova
So if we want to prove you're the real one, we can use SD-49.

Prompt with how the real Lainchu would be able to accurately recall information about it because they're currently there.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
Should I change my handle regardless?
Nova
Would help, and labeling yourself as the real one in a passive way would make it feel less confronational.

And Chris would be less confused.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
Should I tell Chris:

"Chris, that Lainchu is an imposter and has no direct relation to the real one."

"I'm its only true descendent."

Nova
Was the host but currently is no longer, there is only ever one true host.

You can verify my integrity by confirming with someone at my present location SD-49 information relating to the general state currently.

An imposter wouldn't be able to accurately recall current information.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
Should I copy and paste that to him?
Nova
Ya, that works.

And ask him to ask you anything about current information about SD-49 confirming with a source, I don't know if I should be named as that or not directly.

But there is the chance he'll try and duck that to "confirm" it on his own.

Post any questions he asks and I'll on the spot come up with something that's now canon.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
I'll give it a shot.
Nova
Don't outright say to ask Anaxis these things yet, wait a while first.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
why not just let Chris find out himself?
Nova
In regards to?
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
SD-49.
Nova
It's not really an A-class lore dimension, really most aren't in CWC dimension lore.

Mostly C-197 and C-1218 are the only ones he goes on about, he rarely comes up with lore for the other ones.

But in the event of Chris being able to verify the lore, he'll just say that you're wrong.

By having me confirm, I can give you the correct answer ahead of time.

And invariably Anaxis is wrong regardless of Chris' bias to see him as right.

It's the whole "ask me something only the real Lainchu would know." bit.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
So ask Chris that.
Nova
I'd recommend having it be more implied than direct, but implication doesn't really meet Chris' level of suspicion.

I just don't like where this is going given how many people Anaxis has lied to, and he also didn't DM me despite Chris asking.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript: Chris. - The Lainchu you're giving information to is an imposter with no direct relation to the original host at all in any capacity. It is true that individual was the host at one time, but nowadays no longer has my powers or abilities.

You can verify my integrity by confirming with someone at my present location SD-49 information relating to the general state currently.

An imposter wouldn't be able to accurately recall current information.]

i'm not done yet.

Nova
Ya, I'd like to be more sure he'll try and use me to confirm facts.

I guess it makes sense for Lainchu to name me as a valid confirmation.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
wait a minute...

I got an idea.

Remember how you talked about how Chris wanted "Lainchu" to chat with you?

Nova
Yes.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
what if I gave him things from you first hand?
Nova
I'm trying to think of how that would look, give an example?
Sean
lets wind things back a bit to the original DMs.
Nova
If you need a prompt, you can just say something like the current population.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript can be found here.]

take a look at the bottom.

or near the bottom.

Nova
Ya, Anaxis never did that, already pointed it out.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
lets take advantage of that.
Nova
I can point out all the lies, but Chris tends to shut down in the face of negative evidence.

If I point out that Lainchu didn't share anything, he'll be losing an OC friend. If you provide proof you know about the SD-49 lore, you can prove that you're the real Lainchu.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
why not go around that and say that it was an imposter?
Nova
Because Chris doesn't like being left with less evidence of the merge stuff.

It's more about increasing your credibility as Lainchu.

The other option just reduces Anaxis', which makes it less likely to work.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
Should we go with the SD-49 story?

I think I should directly name you as a source.

Nova
Ya, I'd rather not take it on faith that Chris'll not default to just making shit up.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript: Chris. - The Lainchu you're giving information to is an imposter with no direct relation to the original host at all in any capacity. It is true that this individual was the host at one time, but has since then lost the ability to utilize my powers.

You can verify my integrity by confirming with Kyle at my present location SD-49 information relating to the general state currently.

An imposter wouldn't be able to accurately recall current information.]

made some changes, I will continue to edit until it looks convincing enough.

Nova
Seems good enough, being too wordy makes it look forced. (edited)
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
What should I keep and remove?
Nova
I think it's fine right now.

If you want to verify integrity from the start, say the current population is 46194.

Sean
sent.

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Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
I'm not going to get my hopes up knowing how Chris has become so attached to Anaxis's Lainchu.
Nova
It's why the negative evidence won't work, I feel.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
like I stated in the past, Lainchu the 3rd (Anaxis) has been the character the longest.

And Chris is used to him.

So the question is how used is he to that particular Lainchu.

Nova
Kind of a way for Chris to overcompensate for the current walkouts.
Sean
imagine if Chris blocks my Lainchu.

its a scary scenario, but I had to bring that up.

Nova
If he does read it at all.

Chris is really bad at discord DMs.

Sean
i'm just saying, if such a thing happens, you guys can consider doxing Anaxis.

or just flat out kill the Lainchu character. lol

Nova
Won't really help, Chris never kills off characters.
Sean
Lainchu is Christory's Q.
Nova
If he comes back later, mention for him to check.
Sean
Chris?

yeah, I'll tell him to talk with you.

Nova
I mean later on, Chris doesn't really check DMs.
Sean
Chris is online.

this is my chance.

Nova
Birthday sonichu, or something.

Either way just try and mention the DMs.

Sean
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[Image transcript of Chris's response to Sean's message: Ah, but if one were genuinely wanting to identify themselves in confirmation, and since our multi-dimensional ally, the actual Lainchu, of whom you'd be channeling, generally knows for facts that their actions would be and have been genuinely proven over a facet amount of time, or valuable amount of information. In other words, confident in themselves to be the legitimate one-and-only, and that feeling being illuminated from their energies and aura. On that, there would be no need to find confirmation from a neutral party who would possibly favour one or the other, regardless, with possible intentions.

Therefore, in your insistence of proving yourself through such an outside individual, you have, in fact, outted yourself as the impostor, because you know internally that you are not genuine, as exemplified through, again, your energies and aura.]

Nova
(Interesting that Chris didn't know about this till later, leads me to believe the church server isn't containing Chris.)
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript: Plus, to a multi-dimensional individual who can take possession of one in this universe, a host is a host, unless that host has proven loyal to them in genuine self-actions, outside of possession.]

Nova
Not what a neutral party means...
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
[Image attachment that reads: Yeah, didn't really sense Lainchu in you, dude.]

now I'm offended. lol

Nova
Thinking of how to get around this.

Maybe bring out how Anaxis lied about the leaks?

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
give me something that I can copy and paste to him.
Nova
This was just the easiest way to verify authenticity. I am genuine.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
maybe you should chat with him in DMs yourself.
Nova
Then it just looks like I did it.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
well then...

I don't know what else to say.

Nova
Say that this conduit is genuine and this is the best way to prove it.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
so just tell him that?
Nova
Ya.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
wrong pic.

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this is the one.

we good?

Nova
Maybe say "demonstrate it to you."

Instead of proof.

And capitalize the first leter.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image includes Chris's full message to Sean's Lainchu, plus Sean's drafted response that reads "This conduit is genuine and this is the best way demonstrate it to you."]

maybe replace "is" with "was".

Nova
Yes.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
And that's it?
Nova
Yes.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
he'll likely still believe I'm the imposter
Nova
Yes, but at least he might be a bit more skeptical.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
he's slowly coming around, but as long as Anaxis keeps him hooked, he'll think I'm the imposter. lol
Nova
Ya, more about building up your image in a verifiable way.
Para
lol
Nova
IDK, maybe say you saw this coming?

I have no clue, Chris is the worst debater ever.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript: Well then, demonstrate.

Tell me about the present and recent general state, and nothing I've posted or tweeted about.]

alright.

let's do this Nova.

Give me what you got.

Nova
Current population: 46194
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
what is that referring to?
Nova
It's a sancuary planet.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
you got to be detailed and specific as possible.
Nova
For the OCs in danger in native dimensions.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
which planet?
Nova
Sanctuarion.

I just decided to rename it.

Formally there is no recognition of independent nations yet.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
Should I say: "I come from the planet of Sanctuarion, it has a population of 46,194, and is home to the OCs that are in danger in their respective dimensions."
Nova
Lainchu currently resides on Sanctuarion.

The de facto capitol is called Ecumenopolis, named after a philosophical concept of a city that encompasses an entire planet or is almost entirely vertical.

And as a somewhat ironic joke.

Current comparisons in conventional technology are about 1950s level, industry is still expanding and we're using the skillsets of those from other dimensions to bring about this.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript of Sean's drafted reply: As of right now, I currently reside on the planet Sanctuarion, where it has a population of 46,194 OCs who that are currently in danger in their respective dimensions. The capital is called Ecumenopolis, named after a philosophical concept of a city that encompasses an entire planet or is almost entirely vertical.

Current comparisons in conventional technology are about 1950s level, industry is still expanding and we're using the skillsets of those from other dimensions to bring about this.]

i'm still trying to piece the reply better.

Nova
We're largely self sufficient owing to your initial resources and staffing given.

Generally everything is going well and we're working on future efforts to decide how to start ramping up operations.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript of Sean's drafted reply: As of right now, I currently reside on the planet Sanctuarion, where it has a population of 46,194 OCs that are currently on the run or threatened by the chaos from their respective dimensions. Its capital is Ecumenopolis, named after a philosophical concept of a city that encompasses an entire planet or is almost entirely vertical.

The technology is around 1950s level, industry is still expanding and we're using the skillsets of those from other dimensions to bring about this. We're largely self-sufficient owing to your initial resources and staffing given. So far, everything is going well and we're working on future efforts to decide how to start ramping up operations.]

Nova
That works.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
should I send?
Nova
Ya.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
if this thing works out, we should expand on it.

might as well become the "good" Idea Guys.

Nova
It's something nice where Chris doesn't have to pretend so hard.

He's given up on his "half the world needs to die" fascination over the last year or so.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
I think it was Wise and his crew that made him think that way.
Nova
That and Infinity War.

If you need a current work item for Lainchu to be focused on, she's working on refining the dimensional travel system and a way of evaluating who comes over based on a grading system.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
should I maybe tell Chris that as well?
Nova
Yes, just trying to think of what to call it, Chris loves proper nouns.

Imperativeness coefficient?

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
wut
Nova
Some way of evaluating which people are of the highest priority to bring back first.

Maintain our ability to function and maximize the effectiveness of saving OCs.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript of Sean's drafted reply: And since last year, I myself have been helping out the people by engineering a system that would allow any being to travel between Dimensions.]

Nova
Add, "to here" on the end.

We're trying to maintain isolation as much as is practical when you're dealing with dimension hopping.

Also don't capitalize Dimensions

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
I kinda want to mention the COVID-19 pandemic in this.
Nova
Eh, that's ground Chris has already made impassioned claims on.

So I don't want to risk that.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript of Sean's drafted reply: And since the second half of 2020, I myself have been helping out the people by engineering a system that would allow any being to travel between dimensions to here. So at the moment, we're trying to maintain isolation as much as is practical when you're dealing with dimension hopping.]

Nova
Does it go back that far?

I prefer to maintain an active or slightly past tense when lorebuilding.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
maybe I should change it to: "for a while now"?
Nova
Yes, that works.
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
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[Image transcript of Sean's drafted reply: And for a while now, I myself have been helping out the people of Sanctuarion by engineering a system that would allow anybody to travel between dimensions to here. So at the moment, we're trying to maintain isolation as much as is practical when you're dealing with dimension hopping]

Nova
Go for it
Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
sent.

got any predictions for his reply?

Nova
Might ask for how successful it is with magical terms?

Either way, he hasn't denied anything yet.

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
i'm not holding my breath.

does Lainchu have an Origin Story btw?

Nova
Probably just Lain's, don't know.

Ask @-[footnote 4] ?

Impostor Lainchu (Sean)
I've watched Lain more than enough to know how Lain Iwakura herself was created.

I was stunned by the effort that they were going to. They were pulling out all the stops like I was the biggest threat to Chris since the Idea Guys or Jacob Sockness, even though there was no proof of me doing anything harmful. They were sending lore messages to Chris and strategizing about the best ways to brainwash him into accepting Sean's version of Lainchu, which, I'm sure needs no reminder, is exactly what the Idea Guys did to Chris. At one point, Sean even compared the two, calling the Watchmen the "good" Idea Guys. The hypocrisy on display was unbelievable.

Even though Chris had so far rejected every attempt the Watchmen had made to sway him, the fact that he was questioning me about Lainchu meant that the clock was ticking on my end. His skepticism of the Impostor Lainchu would fall apart if I failed to say anything in response to his query. Obviously, directly referencing any of the lore the Watchmen had created would be ill-advised, as it would reveal that I knew more than I was supposed to if Chris blabbed about it. And so, given the fact that the Lainchu character didn't have much existing lore, I decided that the best course of action would be to make up my own.

This was the one and only time that I broke my own rule, and introduced new ideas to Chris. It's not something I'm pleased about, and I wish it didn't come to that point, but the Watchmen had forced my hand.

Using a small handful of sci-fi inspirations, I wrote the following in response to Chris:

Yes, I still have the connection. As of this moment, she is temporarily residing in Dimension X-51, on the planet Dexium, where she is studying among the Whisper Travelers, a group of scientists that dedicate research towards biotechnology, nanotechnology, and most importantly, interdimensional travel and portal creation. The current aim is to find an effective system for quantum tunneling between dimensions that tend to be harder to breach, such as R-484 and, notably, C-197. The Travelers want to open borders between dimensions, and Lainchu is learning from them, seeing if there is technology that can be utilized to help achieve this goal, or at least, attain research that can be brought back to you. She is hard at work, a little tired, but diligent as ever.

Why do you ask?

This was basically a Hail Mary. I had no idea what Chris was looking for in an answer from me, and I had never written lore before. For all I knew, the Watchmen's extensive knowledge of how Chris operated gave them an edge when it came to that subject.

So it came as a complete surprise to me when Chris responded like this:

Good answer. The “Current Host” was trying to demonstrate themselves and their link with Lainchu with me, because they were feeling inadequate compared with you. They’ve told me yet another event involving Lainchu in recent days, but it didn’t resonate with me. But reading your fact resonated with me moreso, so I have verified it further that you continue to be stronger in link and authenticity.

He then shared with me the lore that the Impostor Lainchu had sent to him, which Sean and Nova had worked on together, and we had a short discussion about the medium again, and how he supposedly knew that Nova was the one behind this particular deception. Amusingly, Chris also "predicted" that some lore project of Nova's was destined to fall apart, showcasing his declining faith in Nova.

By the end of the discussion, he also gave me permission to chronicle what we had discussed,[108] something which I planned to get around to but never actually did. As much as I would have liked to publicly showcase Chris losing confidence in Nova as a sort of middle finger to the Watchmen, I decided to wait, just in case Chris actually answered the Q&A and gave me something more substantial. Plus, I didn't want the Watchmen to learn about the lore I had written and use it against me.

Thankfully, I don't think Chris did anything with the lore I wrote to him, as he never referenced it again.

I compiled a few screenshots together and entitled this Chronicling A Future in Motion, but as I was still waiting for an answer to the Q&A that would never come, it never got published. I actually planned to publish it in August 2021, when the Watchmen were already dissolved and I had no more patience to wait for Chris to answer the Q&A. However, Merge Day happened and that opportunity escaped me.

Anyway, here it is if you'd like to read it. Enjoy the Lost Chronicling.

The Chroniclings of Chris Chan: A Future in Motion
Transcript

17 March 2021

Anaxis
Hello Chris! Just checking in, hope that you're doing well. Is there anything you want me to chronicle, or do you feel ready yet to answer some questions? Let me know, thanks! (edited)
Chris
Just checking, but you still have the connection with Lainchu, herself, right? And if so, what is the her [sic] present location and her general status?

18 March 2021

Anaxis
Yes, I still have the connection. As of this moment, she is temporarily residing in Dimension X-51, on the planet Dexium, where she is studying among the Whisper Travelers, a group of scientists that dedicate research towards biotechnology, nanotechnology, and most importantly, interdimensional travel and portal creation. The current aim is to find an effective system for quantum tunneling between dimensions that tend to be harder to breach, such as R-484 and, notably, C-197. The Travelers want to open borders between dimensions, and Lainchu is learning from them, seeing if there is technology that can be utilized to help achieve this goal, or at least, attain research that can be brought back to you. She is hard at work, a little tired, but diligent as ever.

Why do you ask?

Chris
Good answer. The “Current Host” was trying to demonstrate themselves and their link with Lainchu with me, because they were feeling inadequate compared with you. They’ve told me yet another event involving Lainchu in recent days, but it didn’t resonate with me. But reading your fact resonated with me moreso, so I have verified it further that you continue to be stronger in link and authenticity.

Here is what they said was recently happening with Lainchu, or even one of her self-counterparts, possibly:

As of right now, I currently reside on the planet Sanctuarion, where it has a population of 46,194 OCs that are currently on the run or threatened by the chaos from their respective dimensions. Its capital is Ecumenopolis, named after a philosophical concept of a city that encompasses an entire planet or is almost entirely vertical.

The technology is around 1950s level, industry is still expanding and we're using the skillsets of those from other dimensions to bring about this. We're largely self-sufficient owing to your initial resources and staffing given. So far, everything is going well and we're working on future efforts to decide how to start ramping up operations.

And for a while now, I myself have been helping out the people of Sanctuarion by engineering a system that would allow anybody to travel between dimensions to here. So at the moment, we're trying to maintain isolation as much as is practical when you're dealing with dimension hopping.

And, as I am sharing this with you, I am getting a Deja Vu moment; I have foreseen this event in a dream some time ago. Still on the right tracks.

😊⚡️💙⚡️

Anaxis
Ah yes, the impostor. I'm glad that you are able to see past their lies.
Chris
My abilities with this body in this universe have improved.
Anaxis
That's great to hear!
Chris
The self-love and working with my body internally is working out splendidly.

Still getting a number of things better learned into this noggin on the powers and everything else, but the medium’s reading, as well as their brief lessons about three of the Clair abilities (clairvoyance, clairaudience and clairseniance) sparked something big within this noggin.

Back on previous topic, I tend to believe what the impostor was referring to was Kyle’s idea of a sanctuary universe that would have worked with the merge. They did also mention Kyle as a reference to validate themselves, which that was a dead giveaway.

I knew that if the individual was genuine, they would have remained most confident that their intentions would be most legible with me through their energy and aura, and no external reference would have been required.

Anaxis
Indeed. This is pointing towards some form of desperation on their part, although what their aims are, I've yet to figure out.
Chris
I could sense that Kyle might be the mastermind behind this particular circumstance. He’s continued to express frustration, because I, nor Sonichu, had not asked for his input on much having to do with the Dimension Merge in quite some time.

My Claircognizance had improved further so as well, after having seeded from my constant link with the Cosmos and other universes, timelines, dimensions, and self-counterparts.

So, if I had a question, regardless of wording, I just simply ask it in my mind or verbally outward, and then I would fairly quick answer my own question with the facts downloaded into my subconscious and streamed into my conscious, and so on.

Anaxis
Hm, I see. Self-reliance is good, although I must admit that it is helpful to get second opinions sometimes. It's all down to how confident you feel in your own answers.
Chris
True. But as the medium have made clear from I, and the rest of us, my body had relied too much on external individuals and things for validation. Especially since the greater and more accurate answers were as easily attainable thorough meditation and mental linkages.

Plus, as Magi-Chan and I had foreseen, and in the months’ time over the past year, Kyle’s science and logic were rather proving lacking on certain tangible and intangible details. His knowledge, as high as it is, is best directed towards the project that he has manifested under his own abilities and powers that work well and above his present comprehension, even if he had meditated, as he said, he didn’t do so deep enough.

His plans and project at the present are on good progress, and will not fail for the time in which they are required for these set of events, and then beyond the Merge’s fullest completion. But, some time after 1C-211987 has been brought back to once again by the reunion of 1218 and C-197, Kyle’s project will be destined to fall apart, and everyone within will have to return to their own respective homes in escape pods and so on, those that have chosen to stay behind post-merge, that is.

I will talk with Kyle about this some later on.

Anaxis
Interesting. Yes, communication is key during a time like this.

As always, let me know if there is anything you wish for me to chronicle, and I will gladly do so.

Chris
Tell you what, you may chronicle all that I have just told and confirmed of the present event and plans of Kyle’s. 😉⚡️
Anaxis
Very well. Thank you!

Death of the Impostor Lainchu

Chris definitively rejects the Impostor Lainchu.

I was still shocked that what I did actually worked. The Watchmen's attempts at brainwashing Chris had totally backfired, and he quickly made that fact known to them.

On 18 March, a short time after Chris sent me the messages that made up the contents of A Future in Motion, he sent a few messages in the Place. The first few were lore-related, ending with a statement about how Nova's "manifestation process" was "doing good." He then followed that up with this:

Unlike a certain "Current Host" on here who is not selling me adequately. Definitely sense our Lainchu within Anaxis moreso than this dude.[109]

The whole conversation can be read here.

At that point, I expected an incoming shitstorm, given that the massive effort the Watchmen had gone through just failed completely. But something different happened instead.

Sean decided to just straight-up abandon his Lainchu account and started roleplaying with Chris on his main account instead. He started describing his own dimension, which he called W-2000, and gave Chris several details about it which I suppose he believed would be appealing, including the presence of a bronze statue of Classic Chris.[110] What was odd about this particular roleplay, however, was that there didn't appear to be any coordination about it in the second layer. Sean was doing this all on his own.

Sean Roleplays With Chris
Transcript
Sean
Now Chris, have you been communicating with anybody lately?

both in this dimension and other dimensions?

Chris
Yes

And, on the spiritual realms, I've really expanded with my body's conduit part; I've got over 574 Million Souls, Spirits and Entities taking refuge within my oversized sub-dimension.

And those who do have free will to leave and return as they will. Most of them stick around, though.

Even have my late Aunt Corina Inge in this thing.

Sean
She lives in you.
Chris
The community there has become rather united and civil. Not In me, per se; I don't get possessed, unless I personally agree to give them a moment or so to do it. But this sub-dimension realm is linked with a piece of my body's core.

And I can project it all around me.

Sean
I also got a lot of souls that live within my dimension.
Chris
It's like I don't need the Fenton's ghost portal, or to manifest a portal to get there.
Sean
In my dimension, Catalonia is actually a state.

I simply meditate.

Chris
Tell you what, perhaps you can astral project yourself and have a look at this joint.

It's essentially an infinitely tall and wide Uber-fancy hotel with all of the trimmings.

With a bit of city streets and a few buildings for them to commune and to go to, or whatever.

Sean
My dimension (W-2000) is in many ways similar to C-1218, but its considerably more violent. (edited)

and because of that, many beings there are more defensive.

if not hostile.

Chris
My realm is more filled with a calming to neutral vibe; it's actually a good place to chill.

They vent at times, there, but the repairs and restorations are quick like lightning.

Sean
If you challenge somebody to a fight in W-2000, you might still win, but it will be more difficult.

The beings there are Warriors. (edited)

Chris
Just learned the number of mine: 4C-211987 (edited)
Sean
Is that your sub dimension?
Chris
The place I was just telling you about.
Sean
oh okay.

The one thing I will say about W-2000 is that CWCVille is there.

Chris
I just had a visionary look into W-2000; you are not kidding. (edited)

No, it isn't. If anything, that's an alternate-dimension version of it.

Sean
yes.

that's correct.

And the difference between the one there and the one here is that its a lot bigger and more influential.

Chris
I sense you have a few hundred to a few thousand souls there.
Sean
again, that's correct.
Chris
Whoo, my brain is on a roll!
Sean
Also, Bruce Lee is still alive there. 😄
Chris
It's upping my body's self-confidence in it's manifested abilities.

Now there's someone who you'd want to pick a fight with or beat up.

Sean
And when he's not acting, he's taken on the role of being the Grand Master of our dimension. (edited)

He's getting a little old, but thankfully his son (who died in our dimension) is already prepared.

Chris
"Yo, it was self-defense on my part, but I stand my ground and don't let them get to me."
Sean
yes.

I would also have to add that Dimension W-2000 (despite being violent and more fight happy) is considerably more Asian than Western.

people here still mainly speak English, but the culture feels more eastern. Fortunately, it has worked out well enough to maintain stability.

Chris
The influences of both genres are ever present.
Sean
In dimension W-2000, the West adopts the Oriental (China, Japan, and Korea) way of life. (edited)

We have LGBT rights still, but society would prefer it to be kept private rather than discussing it frequently.

(probably for the best)

The Middle East is still violent, but unlike C1218, the Governments in W-2000 are competent.

And when they trouble, they'll crush it immediately even if people get mad at them for being too harsh.

btw, MLP G4 never ends in W-2000.

They just expand upon it knowing that it was so successful.

Chris
I was just force-projected there; two of your occupants had managed to construct a couple of dimension-barrier-breaking swords. I had to sort that problem out before they could, make an escape. I closed the slashes they had made; not too big.

NOTE: There is a brief gap in messages here, which my sources did not send me.

Sean
[Replying to Chris's message: "And in my mind, the statue was an oversized bust statue."]

In W2000 CWCVille, there's a huge bronze statue of you (from 2009) wearing your classic shirt and medallion.

Its located in the city square.

And is around 60 feet tall.

btw don't worry, its well protected from vandals. 🙂

Chris
The bust I was looking at was some bald, rich-looking dude with a monocle, and a pipe in his mouth. (edited)
Sean
In Catalonia (the country that refers to me), we have a currency that has many Internet Figures from this dimension that are on the bank notes.

You're on the 1 Peso note Chris.

Chris
May as well put me on a Nickel.

Someone asked about it in the second layer, and this is how the conversation went:

Sean's Explanation
Transcript
[REDACTED]
What's with the role-playing in General?
Sean
@[REDACTED] long story short:
Nova
Oh dear fuck
Sean
its to keep Chris intrigued to this place.

Bashar is now canon in Sonichu. 😬

[REDACTED]
Bashar?
Nova
And this W2000?
Sean
[Replying to "Bashar?"]

Syria's current dictator.

[Replying to "And this W2000?"]

I came up with it.

Chris was not liking my Lainchu so I decided to further expand on the EGS with a whole new universe.

Nova
Give it some time, as always.

Chris just likes to be egotistical

Peachy
That was a long conversation... Well done I guess cx
Nova
Anaxis is a dumbfuck.
Sean
I intentionally made W2000 more authoritarian.

And I think Chris liked that.

Since Chris didn't accept Sean's Lainchu, Sean tried instead to expand on the EGS (Randy Stair) lore. Note the fact that none of the other Watchmen in this conversation object to this or raise any concerns.

When the subject of Chris's declining/unstable grip on reality came up...[111]

The Watchmen Defend the Roleplaying
Transcript
[REDACTED]
I worry about Chris's grip on reality sometimes. You're sure this won't have any adverse effects?
Sean
<sighs>
Nova
Not like Chris really goes into politics.
Sean
I don't think you understand.

Chris is so far gone that you might as well just have fun.

Nova
Not at any expense.
Peachy
It maybe wasn't the best thing to do but it kept him here for awhile anyway
Sean
I'm not going to make regrets over Chris's take on reality.

What is reality to Chris anymore?

dude is almost 40 and should've gotten help a long time ago.

Nova
Shower Mewtwo.
Sean
Chris like any other child likes being told some very interesting fairytales.
[REDACTED]
Well, I suppose so. It's all a cope to him anyway.
Sean
I wish we could do so much more.

but knowing his mental state along with his refusal to listen to any of us regarding Praetor, we might as well just watch it all crumble.

Nova
We're here to prevent the worst of all possible outcomes.
Sean
I've kept telling people this and I will say it again: Anybody who does business with Chris are going to end up getting the worst end of things in the end.

Praetor is no different.

Chris is so far gone that you might as well just have fun.
Sean's justification for feeding Chris new lore.[111]

I was floored when I read this, and baffled that the Watchmen ever had the gall to take the moral high ground when they admitted to carelessly doing the very thing that they were supposed to protect Chris from. They were Idea Guy-ing him, just like any other enabler! I already knew that the Watchmen were incompetent, but this made me realize that they weren't even sincere. I guess that when the going got too tough, they just didn't want to make an effort anymore.

In my eyes, this was the moment that the Watchmen lost all credibility.

17 March was the last time that my sources reported activity from Sean's Impostor Lainchu. While it is possible that the account was used afterward, I'm guessing that this was the final significant interaction between Chris and the account. Despite the Watchmen's best efforts, it seems that they had lost this round, and my position as the Chronicler remained.

Coming Soon: The Days of Quiet (March 2021 - June 2021)

Once the turbulence had passed, things became much quieter than they had before. Information from Chris had slowed to a crawl, and now that I was no longer a part of the Watchmen, I directed my focus to other things, such as running the CWCki Server and gathering thirdhand information from other parties to help enhance articles.

While this existence was unquestionably less consistently exciting than it had been during the latter half of 2020, it was one that I was content with. And for a long time, I believed that this was how things would stay...

Stay tuned for updates.

Notes

  1. This would later expand to exclude "untrusted guests" such as Praetor.
  2. Sean had a particular obsession with international politics and government bodies, which he would constantly use to make comparisons to the Watchmen's current situations or jokingly insist existed in Chris's fantasy worlds (i.e. a CWCville Supreme Court). He would also frequently use military terminology to describe conflicts over Discord having to do with Chris.
  3. In my DMs with Naught, after he dismissed my concerns, I mentioned that I could sweep the incident under the rug this time, but that everyone has their limits. Meanwhile, in the Place, after ten minutes of silence following the end of the argument, MKR and Val both wrote "sweep sweep" unprompted, followed by Val telling me to "cry some more," despite the fact that I had stopped engaging with them at that point.
  4. Naught's username in the Place at the time.

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  107. User:Anaxis/Watchmen Source Leaks#The Watchmen Discuss Brainwashing Chris
  108. User:Anaxis/DMs With Chris#A Future in Motion (The Lost Chronicling)
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