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Catie's elective suffering didn't stop there. She treated herself to another outing with Chris, which she insisted was platonic. | |||
Catie's elective suffering didn't stop there. She treated herself to another outing with Chris, which she insisted was platonic. It didn't end well, with Chris refusing to be just friends. She has provided some description:<ref>[[https://kiwifar.ms/threads/rental-house-audio-part-2.8403/page-9#post-600041]]</ref> | |||
{{Email|The dog's situation is really bad. I didn't know how bad until the second outing, and now months later I'm angry that I didn't do anything about it. There's just so much insanity in dealing with Chris that you sort of lose the ability to react any further. | {{Email|The dog's situation is really bad. I didn't know how bad until the second outing, and now months later I'm angry that I didn't do anything about it. There's just so much insanity in dealing with Chris that you sort of lose the ability to react any further. | ||
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{{Email|Chris wanted to kiss me after the second outing (which I adamantly declared was not a date, several times, which Chris refused to accept), and I said no. That's weird, that's creepy, we aren't dating.... NO. He asked for a hug, instead, and I still said no because I said it felt uncomfortable since we weren't dating. So instead he "walked me to the car" and as I was getting in he just half climbed in after me and hugged me really awkwardly, bent in half since I was sitting down, face-down in my tits. His hair smells awful and his hairline is like half back on his head. It was one of many moments where I was so stunned I couldn't meaningfully react.}} | {{Email|Chris wanted to kiss me after the second outing (which I adamantly declared was not a date, several times, which Chris refused to accept), and I said no. That's weird, that's creepy, we aren't dating.... NO. He asked for a hug, instead, and I still said no because I said it felt uncomfortable since we weren't dating. So instead he "walked me to the car" and as I was getting in he just half climbed in after me and hugged me really awkwardly, bent in half since I was sitting down, face-down in my tits. His hair smells awful and his hairline is like half back on his head. It was one of many moments where I was so stunned I couldn't meaningfully react.}} | ||
Cousin Al has also provided a two-part report, written the day after the meetup:<ref>[[https://kiwifar.ms/threads/facebook-updates-likes-and-misc-junk.4847/page-25#post-771891]]</ref> | |||
{{Email|I and Catie met up with Chris at a bowling alley and we talked and bowled a single game of bowling. We were there about an hour. After that, we went to a local buffet to eat and talked at length in one of the booths. Finally, we drove over to the rental house, said hi to Barb briefly, and went upstairs and briefly played PS3 with Chris. After that, we left. | |||
Notes- | |||
The original Sonichu pages are still entirely intact, all of them. I asked Chris is he would be willing to sell them, he said no, then said that if he ever did decide to sell them, that he would want "thousands of dollars" for each issue. | |||
Chris still considers Catie his girlfriend even though she explicitly told him that now they were just friends. | |||
Chris mentioned that in 2010 that he used to attend a young adult social group and go bowling with other members of the group. He mentioned meeting "his girlfriend heather" (the wallflower) at the group. Chris talked contemptuously about other special ed types in the group, but said that if he had a child that was intellectually disabled, (retarded) that he would be OK with that child and still love it. | |||
Evidently, Barb has told Chris that the reason that Cole doesn't like Barb is because Cole allegedly hit his head when he tripped on a school bus sometime between the ages of 4-7. This allegedly gave Cole lifelong mental and physical problems. Also, Cole allegedly has a bad hip. The last time Chris/Barb saw Cole is person was at a Weston family reunion in 2004. | |||
The Chandlers almost got evicted from their rental house today, because the insurance company decided to not pay the rent for December. Barb came up with the $1600 to pay the rent by taking out a loan against the title on the van. | |||
Chris thinks that they will be back in 14 BC by the 10th to 17th of December. When he said this in front of Barb, she spoke up and said something to the tune of "that ain't happening" to "you're being very optimistic". Also, Barb is going over to 14 Branchland Court regularly during the weekdays to oversee the construction, and has apparently been trying to boss around/micromanage the construction crews. | |||
According to Chris, the reason that their paperwork took so long to process for the rebuild on 14 BC is because the person doing it was old, "in their 60's" and was "a senile slow in the mind". | |||
Chris is aware that "the game place" is out of business. When asked about how he felt about that, he tryed thinking for a minute, then said that he didn't know. | |||
Chris was fired from Wendy's back in 2001 because he drew a deliberately ugly picture of an older, female coworker as a Pokémon on a napkin. He says that he and his coworkers and his manager had emotional issues and didn't get along. Chris also claims that he was wrongly blamed for making a baby cry when the baby and its parents were eating at the restaurant. | |||
Chris stated that the inheritance that he and Barb received after Bob died was on the order of tens of thousands of dollars. Chris maintained that most to all of the inheritance was spent on legal fees after the events of 27 October 2011. Chris recalls Barb throwing money at the problem, burning through funds paying Rob Bell to fight for their innocence, Barbara being stubborn and unwilling to accept a "guilty" plea in court. Evidently, at some point, barb either ran out of money or accepted that no amount of money spent in lawyer's fees would equal an innocent verdict in court. | |||
When asked about when his social security started, he stated that he didn't remember, then stated that he thought it had been a very long time-since before he started school. When asked if he was receiving the tugboat during high school, he said that he didn't remember. He stated that the only benefits that he got for his autism were the tugboat and a parking sticker for his car. He then smugly stated that he "gets those benefits because he's special" and sat there proud of his proclamation, as if awaiting a pat on the back. | |||
There's a lot more. I was wearing the recording rig, but the mic was under my heavy jacket, so I don't know what audio quality we got. I'll review the audio tomorrow and post more if I can.}} | |||
{{Email|Chris was always floating right around her, clingy as hell. He even tried giving Catie a goodnight kiss, after she told him explicitly that they were just friends. Chris has no sense of personal space or boundaries. It's like she'll tell him to keep his distance, but the thought won't stay in his head for longer than five minutes and then he's hovering too close again. I personally think that he's autistic and just doesn't gauge personal space well, but that's just my theory. | |||
When asked about where he saw himself in 5 years, Chris said, "you know, I've had a lot of people ask me that question, and I just don't know, I never have" or something to that effect. | |||
Chris specifically admitted that he can earn up to $900 a month before losing any of his welfare money. I pointed out that there are many felons, disabled people, and high school dropouts who manage to find work, and said to Chris that if he'd been searching for work for almost ten years but hadn't found any, that he should either try harder to find a job, or perhaps enroll in a program that finds employment for people with disabilities. Chris didn't seem to like the thought, and I then asked him if his pride was preventing him from finding work. | |||
I pointed out that it would help his financial situation to find work, and asked him if his mother would support him finding work. Chris said "yes, my mother would support me finding work, but. . . " so I asked him what the problem was. He stated that he didn't emotionally feel prepared to be away from his mother as long as working full time would necessitate. I pointed out to Chris that he could work part time, and in the local area. I also pointed out that if he was employed, he would be able to better take care of himself after his mother passes away, and pointed out that he was over 30 years old. I asked him what he was going to do after his mother passed away, and he said that he didn't know. | |||
I pointed out to Chris that there are communities in the united states that are more LGBT friendly then rural Virginia, such as San Francisco, or Seattle. I also pointed out that the job market and government benefits/welfare are much better in both of those locations, pointing out that San Francisco has the highest minimum wage in the United States, and that he could earn more money there. Chris's response to this was, "but there's no San Francisco in Virginia". | |||
After informing Chris that I was talking about San Francisco, California, I asked him if he thought moving there was a good idea and he said no, because he didn't want to leave his mother. I asked him if anyone else could take care of his mother for him, mentioning his half-brother Cole and Aunt Harriet by name, but Chris said no, that they wouldn't take barb in. I asked Chris if he would consider moving out of Virginia after Barb dies. Chris flatly stated that he didn't feel comfortable moving to anyplace else, period, although he acknowledged the potential benefits of living in a different location in the United States. | |||
Chris paid $9,000 for the 2010 ford focus sedan, and he said that the payment is "one-hundred something" a month. He said that the interest rate on his loan was only 5%, and that the auto dealership was having a special deal the week that he bought the car. I don't know how accurate those numbers are, but that's what he said. | |||
When asked, Chris said that he does not know his credit score, or "care much for that".}} | |||
== How Chris screwed up so soon == | == How Chris screwed up so soon == |
Revision as of 11:54, 19 June 2015
Catherine Sorrentino was, according to Chris in mid-2014, his latest sweetheart. Little is known about her personally, only that she wasn't real and admires trolls lonely, crazy men. She was almost certainly white, and younger than Chris, as his preferences preclude anything else. The two are believed to have met on OKcupid when Christian discovered that "Catie" was a 97% match (which guarantees she's destined to bear his child) and pursued her.
Unlike other women in his life, Chris decided to keep the identity of Catherine anonymous during July 2014, safeguarding her discovery by anybody else.
It was revealed late in the saga that Catherine normally went by Catie; Chris didn't call her by this name until he had "broken up" with her.
Background
Catherine--or rather, the troll masquerading as her--had multiple real-life experiences with Chris, which shed some light as to how Chris's behavior towards women has deteriorated even further over the years. As shown below, her account tells tales of Chris simply refusing to take "No!" for an answer, despite her telling him that their outings were not dates. The Catherine Saga consisted chiefly of Chris harassing Catie by sending her unwanted letters and photos of himself in drag, being verbally abusive to her and her friends, telling her he was "entitled to a relationship," and in one infamous moment molesting her when she told him to back off. Though Chris only hugged her against her will, this sort of attitude could lead to something a lot worse.
The relationship
In the summer of 2014, Chris revealed that he had found himself a new sweetheart. The first public signs of her appeared on 29 August, when a member of Kiwi Farms made a post about an autograph and a drawing sent to her by Chris. The drawing, signed 18 August 2014, contained a note in the back in which Chris claimed to have a girlfriend.[1] On 31 August 2014 Chris claimed on Facebook to have had a date with his girlfriend on that day while wearing a Britney Spears perfume.[2] On the same day he also changed his Facebook relationship status from "single" to "in a relationship". According to the status change the relationship began on 9 July 2014.[3]
On 2 September 2014, Chris tried to guilt Catherine into committing to him by sending her his vows, showing that Chris wanted to be in a relationship with Catherine, how he was entitled to be in a valid relationship with a sweetheart and how depressed he was.
On 5 September 2014 Chris used Facebook to tell his eBay customers that the commissions they have ordered will be delayed due to Chris being busy with his girlfriend.[4]
On 11 September, Chris posted this Facebook status:
I want to make something very clear.
My Girlfriend and Sweetheart is Very Real; she is NOT a Hooker or Prostitute. And I certainly am Not spending money on Hookers or Prostitutes. Although I sincerely do feel sorry for them all and having to do what they do for a living. My Mother and I do have our own expenses, NOT DIGITALLY RELATED, that we are paying off, and the minimums are growing steep. And my mother still needs her dental work, and we do enjoy eating good food like most everyone, including You! Please Remember and Respect that about us, about most everyone, and about Yourself! |
During the start of October 2014 Chris sent his master copy of the newest CD he'd made to his sweetheart Catherine, but a thief somehow acquired it and posted it on Kiwi Farms for the world to see. To the CD thief's surprise the CD had information pertaining to the anonymous sweetheart's name but tragically not her appearance. It also, much like one he once made for Cole Smithey, only contains music HE likes.
In early December, to little surprise, it was revealed on the Farms that Catherine really was (as many had suspected) just a troll. It is yet unknown whether or not Chris knows this.
The date
- Main article: Catie Date Conversation Transcript
- Main article: IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court
- Main article: Rental House Tour
Catherine went on two real-life outings with CWC, the first of which was considered a date by both parties. Her horrifying account is below: [5]
I approached the first date with Chris like most people approach online dating, you just set up some lunch or coffee date or some shit and see if you can tolerate one another without the computer screen. Except that I knew I was going to have to hand-wave and tolerate an awful lot of crazy shit, most of the early Catie interactions online were a lot like any budding online friendship via a dating site.
When I started out, it was entirely on my own with no involvement from Christorical figures and trolls. I didn't expect to get anywhere. Most would-be trolls don't. So there was no plan for an irl meeting since I'm too chicken to go it alone. When I got advice/help from other Christorians, that's when we put the idea together for a date. I think I did refer to it as a "lunch date" or something like that, but it was the same routine I've gone though from online dating before. I tried to keep the Catie interactions as normal as possible, as weird as that probably sounds. Chris wanted to spend an entire day together, go bra-shopping at Target with him, wanted me to spend the night and watch movies with him, even asked me what I like for breakfast so he could buy it. It would have been kind of nice behavior if it weren't the first time he was going to meet this woman. I told him a few times that I wasn't going to spend the night with him, but he persisted in believing I would. It took place the last weekend in August because it took a while to coordinate. By then, Chris had been chatting with "Catie" for about four weeks. My "Cousin Al" came with me so I wouldn't be alone with Chris at Applebee's. It was set for like 2pm or something but Chris told me he always likes to be half an hour early for dates (all two of the ones he's had in his life?), so WE had to be there early so we could get there first. This is a rundown of the date itself from right after: 12:45pm: Arrived in Charlottesville. We knew Chris would be early since he said he was "always early for dates" though he's had all of like three dates in his life including this one. Took a few mins to adjust before going in and getting a seat. Faced the door so wE could see him coming. 1.10pm: VISUAL CONTACT ESTABLISHED. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. Al spotted him first in the car park, said, "It's either Chris or an ugly old woman." He looked right at us and I waved, and he sorta waved back, but got seated separately because autism. He was two booths down. I bit the bullet and went over. He wanted me to use some shitty-ass stupid pickup line, "What's a pretty girl like you doing in a place like this?" But I just asked if he was Christian. He all but leaped up and squawked, "CATHERINE! YOU'RE HERE!" Then he side hugged me before I could employ evasive tactics and I led him to our table. The look on the waitress's face was priceless. She may need serious therapy after this. Chris was wearing a red T-shirt and grey undershirt, his "kilt" (really some old lady style plaid skirt to the calf) with turquoise tights, and grotty sneakers. I hoped he would wear high heels, since he said he likes wearing them. His hair looked like straw, probably from the bleach he used to use, and he had a silver hairband and green earrings. He had on blue eyeshadow and purple eyeliner and red lipstick that appear to have been applied by someone with advanced Parkinson's. He smelled very strongly of what we later found out was that Brittany Spears purfume. He shook Al's hand and used hand sanitizer. He seemed genuinely amazed I was even there. 1.30 - 3.30pm: The date went really well. Chris had some trouble with volume control when we talked about Jerkops and we asked a lot about his conspiracy theories. He thinks Snyder bribed the police to beat him up and ran into their car himself and there are still trolls making it impossible for him to get work. We pressed him for details on his corruption conspiracies because we wanted to see how depraved they were, under the pretense that he could sue for millions. But after he couldnt come up with good answers he stress sighed, and we changed the subject. We asked after Barb's teeth. She has really bad cavities apparently. The rental is secured through November, according to Chris. Chris expects Catie to move into 14BC with him and Barb. He had previously expressed willingness to move to [another town in Virginia] with Catie, but he's either changed his mind or forgotten or both. Chris thinks Barb could handle little kids in the house too, when Al asked how he would have a family living with his mother. Chris thinks Barb would be a great babysitter and caretaker, so I guess there goes Chris's plans to be a House Husband. He kept trying to hold my hand so I negotiated lunch like a t-Rex with strumpy little arms. Then he tried footsie under the table. And he stared at my tits a lot. I kept hoping Cousin Al would say something but he never did. In retrospect I should've called him out on it. Barb's family apparently also think Barb is a useless drunken whore too. (Note: a few days after the meeting, Chris told me that when Barb was young, she aggressively went after her sister's husband or fiance. I think it might have been Cousin Harriet's husband, Tom. Anyway, the family concluded that Barb is a shitty person and pretty much wrote her off, except Aunt Corina for some reason. Tom and Harriet still occasionally exchange pleasantries with Barb, but won't let her visit or even tell her their address.) Chris now tips 15%; I gave the waitress all my singles and wrote "I am so sorry you had to see that, you're a trooper!" on the check. 3.30pm: We were going to escape to the "mechanic" where Catie's car was, but Chrissy wanted to follow us. When he offered to show us 14BC, we took him upon it. We followed him even though Al knew where we were going. Chris seriously drives like my demented old grandma who doesn't have a license anymore because she kept going the wrong way up one way streets. Chris said, "This isn't how I imagined bringing a girl home!" The place is.... Bad. Much smaller than I thought it would be, too. Its overgrown and there is broken glass everywhere. Everywhere you look there's STUFF, all garbage. Bob's old workshop is full of rubbish. His greenhouse is doing slightly better but not much. There's an early 90s Cadillac in the yard covered in plant growth that hasn't been moved since the fire, they want to sell it and expect $2000 - $5000 for it. Al expressed interest in buying some of Bob's records and chris was pretty happy about that. More Lego money!! 4pm: We go to the rental. It is literally stacked to the ceiling with stuff in places, no exaggeration. Chris occupies both upstairs rooms, one is full of Lego (including melted, warped fire damaged Lego, a lot of it), and the other has his same grotty bedding from the old house. He keeps a pic of Catie on his nightstand and practices kisses on it. I should have told him that was creepy as hell but at the time I was just way too stunned that he even had it there. He introduced me to Bob via an old picture. He kept putting his arm around me and getting creepy too close so I kept moving around and fake sneezing. I thought it was because he's creepy, Al thinks it's his autism, but it's likely both. Funnily enough he mentioned earlier that his experiences with Megan taught him NOT to do that touchy creepy thing. He was bragging about it. We looked at his yearbooks. Physically handled them. He has two from his Seinor Year. They smell smoke damaged but aren't too bad. I never found out why he has two yearbooks, I think he said Barb gave him an order form and Bob also did. Nobody signed either, Chris seemed surprised at the suggestion that people sign yearbooks at all. Barb was actually very pleasant. But I know abusive people: the mask of normalcy is their cover. She said I was very pretty and we chatted about family history and Cole nearly dying of a sinus infection when he was nineteen. Barb thinks the insurance agent hates her because she is "too smart" for them and too shrewd, rather than being a cantankerous old harpy. The Chandler's pets pee and shit in the house on newspaper because they're too lazy to take them for walkies. The dogs are untrained, hate strangers, and are at least twenty pounds overweight. Their bellies all but drag on the floor. One nearly bit me when I offered to let it smell me. When we made our escape, Chris said, "You asked what a girl like me was doing in a place like this?" (No Chris!!) "Well I'm waiting for the sweetest most honest woman in my life!" And put his arm around me to kiss me so I sneezed again to get him to back off. I waved at him when we got into the car and he still thinks I blew him a kiss. He gave me a goodie bag of shit, mostly My Little Pony related. There were the two pictures he drew of me, and the CD. There was an MLP iPhone case because he also wanted to take me shopping for an iPhone to put on his plan so he could call me as much as he wanted. I turned him down but he said I could regift it. No clue what happened to it at this point. |
The bowling outing
Catie's elective suffering didn't stop there. She treated herself to another outing with Chris, which she insisted was platonic. It didn't end well, with Chris refusing to be just friends. She has provided some description:[6]
The dog's situation is really bad. I didn't know how bad until the second outing, and now months later I'm angry that I didn't do anything about it. There's just so much insanity in dealing with Chris that you sort of lose the ability to react any further.
The second outing nearly didn't happen because of a bunch of personal, car, and logistics issues on everyone's part. Barb had to go deal with the insurance/rental people because the insurance wasn't going to pay anymore rent for them because, I guess, they expected the Chandler house to have been rebuilt by then. It was almost eleven months by that point, after all. So Barb was away from home and Chris called me saying he couldn't leave the house without his mom there. He suggested I come 'hang out' at the rental, but no way was that happening. When I asked why he couldn't leave, he explained the dogs couldn't be left alone. Why? Well, Barb and Chris have never, ever, EVER left then home alone. Ever. If errands need to be run, then someone has to stay home with the dogs or the dogs have to come with them and wait in the car. Chris claimed they would "destroy the house", tearing up furniture and chewing everything and peeing and crapping and basically all the bad things dogs are capable of doing. He said it like this was totally normal, that all dogs must do this since his dogs do it. I told him that that's what bored/frustrated/understimulated animals do, but he brushed it off. I was stunned, but also trying to salvage the meetup. Chris said he'd wait til Barb was home, but after he found out it could be a few hours until she got back, he came up with this stellar plan: he was going to load those dogs into his car and leave them there while we bowled and had dinner! Dey like da cawr, mmm! I desperately tried to dissuade him from this, and when Al and I stopped for gas, I got the Virginia SPCA phone number and resolved to call them and anonymously report if Chris had those poor animals in his car. (I'd slip away to the ladies', but for all I know Chris would have followed me since girls always go in pairs, teeheehee!) Barb turned up last minute and so we never got to see the SPCA Saga. Now I'm wishing it had happened. But when you deal with Chris, there's so much crazy going on that you basically run out of reactions. I wish I had done something. |
Chris wanted to kiss me after the second outing (which I adamantly declared was not a date, several times, which Chris refused to accept), and I said no. That's weird, that's creepy, we aren't dating.... NO. He asked for a hug, instead, and I still said no because I said it felt uncomfortable since we weren't dating. So instead he "walked me to the car" and as I was getting in he just half climbed in after me and hugged me really awkwardly, bent in half since I was sitting down, face-down in my tits. His hair smells awful and his hairline is like half back on his head. It was one of many moments where I was so stunned I couldn't meaningfully react. |
Cousin Al has also provided a two-part report, written the day after the meetup:[7]
I and Catie met up with Chris at a bowling alley and we talked and bowled a single game of bowling. We were there about an hour. After that, we went to a local buffet to eat and talked at length in one of the booths. Finally, we drove over to the rental house, said hi to Barb briefly, and went upstairs and briefly played PS3 with Chris. After that, we left.
Notes- The original Sonichu pages are still entirely intact, all of them. I asked Chris is he would be willing to sell them, he said no, then said that if he ever did decide to sell them, that he would want "thousands of dollars" for each issue. Chris still considers Catie his girlfriend even though she explicitly told him that now they were just friends. Chris mentioned that in 2010 that he used to attend a young adult social group and go bowling with other members of the group. He mentioned meeting "his girlfriend heather" (the wallflower) at the group. Chris talked contemptuously about other special ed types in the group, but said that if he had a child that was intellectually disabled, (retarded) that he would be OK with that child and still love it. Evidently, Barb has told Chris that the reason that Cole doesn't like Barb is because Cole allegedly hit his head when he tripped on a school bus sometime between the ages of 4-7. This allegedly gave Cole lifelong mental and physical problems. Also, Cole allegedly has a bad hip. The last time Chris/Barb saw Cole is person was at a Weston family reunion in 2004. The Chandlers almost got evicted from their rental house today, because the insurance company decided to not pay the rent for December. Barb came up with the $1600 to pay the rent by taking out a loan against the title on the van. Chris thinks that they will be back in 14 BC by the 10th to 17th of December. When he said this in front of Barb, she spoke up and said something to the tune of "that ain't happening" to "you're being very optimistic". Also, Barb is going over to 14 Branchland Court regularly during the weekdays to oversee the construction, and has apparently been trying to boss around/micromanage the construction crews. According to Chris, the reason that their paperwork took so long to process for the rebuild on 14 BC is because the person doing it was old, "in their 60's" and was "a senile slow in the mind". Chris is aware that "the game place" is out of business. When asked about how he felt about that, he tryed thinking for a minute, then said that he didn't know. Chris was fired from Wendy's back in 2001 because he drew a deliberately ugly picture of an older, female coworker as a Pokémon on a napkin. He says that he and his coworkers and his manager had emotional issues and didn't get along. Chris also claims that he was wrongly blamed for making a baby cry when the baby and its parents were eating at the restaurant. Chris stated that the inheritance that he and Barb received after Bob died was on the order of tens of thousands of dollars. Chris maintained that most to all of the inheritance was spent on legal fees after the events of 27 October 2011. Chris recalls Barb throwing money at the problem, burning through funds paying Rob Bell to fight for their innocence, Barbara being stubborn and unwilling to accept a "guilty" plea in court. Evidently, at some point, barb either ran out of money or accepted that no amount of money spent in lawyer's fees would equal an innocent verdict in court. When asked about when his social security started, he stated that he didn't remember, then stated that he thought it had been a very long time-since before he started school. When asked if he was receiving the tugboat during high school, he said that he didn't remember. He stated that the only benefits that he got for his autism were the tugboat and a parking sticker for his car. He then smugly stated that he "gets those benefits because he's special" and sat there proud of his proclamation, as if awaiting a pat on the back. There's a lot more. I was wearing the recording rig, but the mic was under my heavy jacket, so I don't know what audio quality we got. I'll review the audio tomorrow and post more if I can. |
Chris was always floating right around her, clingy as hell. He even tried giving Catie a goodnight kiss, after she told him explicitly that they were just friends. Chris has no sense of personal space or boundaries. It's like she'll tell him to keep his distance, but the thought won't stay in his head for longer than five minutes and then he's hovering too close again. I personally think that he's autistic and just doesn't gauge personal space well, but that's just my theory.
When asked about where he saw himself in 5 years, Chris said, "you know, I've had a lot of people ask me that question, and I just don't know, I never have" or something to that effect. Chris specifically admitted that he can earn up to $900 a month before losing any of his welfare money. I pointed out that there are many felons, disabled people, and high school dropouts who manage to find work, and said to Chris that if he'd been searching for work for almost ten years but hadn't found any, that he should either try harder to find a job, or perhaps enroll in a program that finds employment for people with disabilities. Chris didn't seem to like the thought, and I then asked him if his pride was preventing him from finding work. I pointed out that it would help his financial situation to find work, and asked him if his mother would support him finding work. Chris said "yes, my mother would support me finding work, but. . . " so I asked him what the problem was. He stated that he didn't emotionally feel prepared to be away from his mother as long as working full time would necessitate. I pointed out to Chris that he could work part time, and in the local area. I also pointed out that if he was employed, he would be able to better take care of himself after his mother passes away, and pointed out that he was over 30 years old. I asked him what he was going to do after his mother passed away, and he said that he didn't know. I pointed out to Chris that there are communities in the united states that are more LGBT friendly then rural Virginia, such as San Francisco, or Seattle. I also pointed out that the job market and government benefits/welfare are much better in both of those locations, pointing out that San Francisco has the highest minimum wage in the United States, and that he could earn more money there. Chris's response to this was, "but there's no San Francisco in Virginia". After informing Chris that I was talking about San Francisco, California, I asked him if he thought moving there was a good idea and he said no, because he didn't want to leave his mother. I asked him if anyone else could take care of his mother for him, mentioning his half-brother Cole and Aunt Harriet by name, but Chris said no, that they wouldn't take barb in. I asked Chris if he would consider moving out of Virginia after Barb dies. Chris flatly stated that he didn't feel comfortable moving to anyplace else, period, although he acknowledged the potential benefits of living in a different location in the United States. Chris paid $9,000 for the 2010 ford focus sedan, and he said that the payment is "one-hundred something" a month. He said that the interest rate on his loan was only 5%, and that the auto dealership was having a special deal the week that he bought the car. I don't know how accurate those numbers are, but that's what he said. When asked, Chris said that he does not know his credit score, or "care much for that". |
How Chris screwed up so soon
- Main article: I Love You, Catherine
On 28 September, Catherine and Chris had recently had a dispute over Chris's abysmal financial situation. To make matters worse for our hero, Catherine visited New York for her friend's bachelorette party, leaving Chris lonesome, frustrated, and paranoid about her sleeping around. During this visit Catherine went on a sail boat ride with a man named Colin. Catherine viewed her relationship with Chris as an open one but Chris didn't view it that way, and confessedly insulted Colin about going on the boat ride with her, outraged at the romantic connotations. Catherine then received word about Chris's outburst in front of Colin and chewed Chris out for it. Chris, for the first time in a long time, caught a heartache, because he acted like a sleazebag towards Colin. On 4 October he proceeded to upload a video where he apologizes for how he acted. In the description he states he will "become a better Lesbian Transgender Sweetheart and Partner".
I Love You, Catherine | |
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Stardate | 4 October 2014 |
Subject Matter | Love |
Performance Style | Reason, Tragedy |
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Leaked Information
Catherine (and others) provided many leaked media from Christian during 2014.
“ | Yes, we could be Gal Pals, but you Have to also realize that I still have the Ugly Growth that if we were in bed, you could enjoy this near seven incher damn cock! | ” |
This is verbatim what Chris e-mailed to Catherine. |
Chris sent Catherine the following photos in an attempt to entice and seduce her:
Between 16 and 18 September, Christian assured Catherine he no longer has crushes on his gal pals, although past evidence suggests otherwise. He refers to Catherine as his "TomBi", presumably some sort of tomgirl/tomboy neologism.
Subject: Unknown
Date: 16 - 18 September 2014 From: Christian To: Catherine Rebeckah forwarded your concerns to me. I assure and promise to you, Catherine: I did not have a crush on Tiffany at all during High School. The only time that would be considered contrary was at the Seinor Prom. No one had asked me to dance, and I went there with my mom. Tiffany asked me to dance with her; it was good. But with the learning of the set up arrangement last year, and upon recollection and reflection, that was probably a set up arrangement as well. My High School crush was Kellie Andes. But then I had heard a rumor near graduation about her going outwith some other dude. And I lost touch. I was moreover not over the Friendships of ALL of my High School Gal Pals: Tiffany [x], Kellie [x], Sarah [x], Molly [x] (who is still a friend, and on my Facebook Friends List), and Miranda [x] (who I still have never found anywhere online, so she is undecided). Aside from Kellie, I did not have the deeper feelings for any of my gal pals, but I still was close with them, I cared about them as my friends, and I definitely felt comfortable around them. Seriously, I was totally Naive on the subject of Dating throughout High School, even though I had a sexual education class. Which led me to my later idea of encouraging Dating Education Classes alongside Sexual Education in High School. Anyway, Kelly blocked me on Facebook a few years ago, and l have gotten over her well over a decade ago. And last August to October, while I was totally on getting the Class of 2000 Reunion going on the 15th year, since the ten year reunion did not work out. I also built the original Lego High School building, before the fire last January, which melted the top portion and about the back walls of the building. I still am glad I rebuilt it with renewed dedication to Manchester High. When I was contacting as many classmates as I could last year, I talked with Sarah Bevel, and eventually, She was the one in Mid-October who totally devastated my High School Memories by being the first to tell me that their friendships with me were a set up that occurred between my father and the principle. I became More VERY Upset and Sad! sigh And with the bullying from Sarah and Tiffany since then, I really wanted to know Why the hell they hate me for other than no reason. I was mostly over all of that before you found me on OKCupid. And then, just recently when I was messaged the link to Tiffany's Facebook. Yeah. So anyway, while I am feeling more crestfallen about that, I am more into the relationship between you and me, Catherine. You continue to care about and love me; as I still do for you too. That matters a lot more to me. You do not have anything to worry about here, my TomBi! Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler |
Pictures of the "Relationship Vow" card by Chris were leaked, showing Chris's vow to Catherine for their Relationship as Sweethearts, Soul-Mates and Partners.
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On 17 December, more media were leaked: his recently-written apology letters he wrote to Fashion Square Mall, Wal-Mart and Mary Lee Walsh and a never-before-seen Christmas video in 2004 which was from the Director's Cut version of his Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :) DVD.
The End
“ | I am feeling sad. While she still wants to be friends, Catie just told me she does not want to be in a relationship with me; essentially dumping me. | ” |
Chris confirmed in an e-mail that he and "Catherine" are no longer together. |
Despite having concluded their last outing together with blatant sexual harassment, Chris seemed cognisant in December of the fact that Catie was not interested in pursuing the relationship.
On 5 December 2014, it was revealed to the masses on a CWCki Forums thread that Catherine, like sweethearts past, was a female troll posing as a Boyfriend-free girl.[8]
Five days later, Chris confirmed in an e-mail to Renee that they are no longer together. However, it still remains unknown whether Chris knows that Catherine doesn't exist at all.
Backlash
- Main article: Trolls#Today
When it was revealed that Catherine wasn't real, many Kiwi Farmers were disappointed. After all, having female trolls assume a persona and "date" Chris is hardly new. Not only this, but many of them felt that Chris no longer deserved to have his life controlled by trolls, and that he'd suffered enough.
Poetically, however, later the same month Chris alienated his sympathizers after he assaulted an innocent person with mace and broke two other laws in the process. This deranged behavior had nothing to do with troll activity; Chris undertook these actions entirely on his own impetus. This suggests that Chris's insane antics will come to pass irrespective of what trolls may do.
Timeline
- Early July: Chris creates an OkCupid profile.
- July 9: First correspondence. Chris will later claim the relationship began on this date.
- August 15: Chris writes (and sends?) his three apology letters, saying that he and Catherine "Deeply love each other."
- August 18: Chris calls Catherine his "girlfriend," in note to CWCki Forums member.
- August 29: Chris's status as taken is publicly revealed on the forum.
- August 31: Applebee's date. Chris changes Facebook status to "in a relationship." Catherine receives two drawings and a CD of herself.
- September 2: Relationship vows sent.
- September 13: Chris goes to pride festival.
- September 16: Chris gets the un-clit.
- September 20 (approx.): Dildo washcloth email.
- September 28–29: Chris–Catherine–Colin love triangle.
- October 4: Chris makes an apology video for Catherine.
- October 8: Chris sends Barb's letter to Colin.
- October 10–12: Catherine tells Chris that she does not want a romantic relationship. Argument with Colin over voicemail and text.
- October 31: Chris visits gay bar.
- November 2: Chris gets rejected for sperm donation.
- November 20: Chris posts on VoyForums offering to donate sperm to lesbians.
- December 4: Chris re-pierces his taint.
- December 5: Catherine publicly revealed as troll.
- December 10: Catherine dumps Chris. Chris is "drifting back into sadness."
- December 12: Chris removes the unclit.
- December 12-14: Text argument between Chris and Catherine.
See also
- Catherine E-mails
- Open Relationship E-mails
- Three-Quarter Woman
- Colin Chats
- Rebeckah Bentley E-mails
References
- ↑ Other_documents#Items_sent_by_Chris_to_a_CWCki_Forums_member
- ↑ August 2014 Facebook Posts#First date?
- ↑ August 2014 Facebook Posts#Life events
- ↑ September 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris finally found a sweetheart?
- ↑ http://kiwifar.ms/threads/2014-dec-19-caties-story.6598/
- ↑ [[1]]
- ↑ [[2]]
- ↑ http://cwckiforums.com/threads/x-post-closure-of-the-cwcki-forums-private-discussion-board.5783