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'''Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean''' (full title "'''04122010 - Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only).MOV'''") is an audio recording released by [[Chris]] chronicling an attempt to get himself unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] by confronting [[Michael Snyder]], the [[manajerks|manager]] who permanently ejected him from the store in the summer of [[2008]]. Chris recorded their conversation by hiding a video camera in his pocket. The phrase "ColdHearted" in the title is supposed to be a [[Random-access humor|play on the title]] of ''[[Pokémon]] HeartGold''. | |||
As usual, Chris adds this to his list of fails as Michael is unmoved by his attempts to get back in, and is entirely justified in this belief. According to Michael himself, Chris's plea was a script he had written down on a piece of paper. He also, it seems, can't remember why he was kicked out of the store in the first place. He mentions a "[[Nintendo|Wii]] incident," an occasion where he angered the management with his regular habit of taking over the store's flatscreen TV with his [[video game]] consoles, but otherwise he appears to be genuinely confused as to why Snyder won't let him back in. Oddly, yet hilariously, Chris adds to his streak of [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racist videos]] by shouting "JEW!" at Michael as he leaves the store, [[South Park|like a certain other egotistical psychopathic fat kid]]. Of note, Michael is not actually Jewish, and the last name Snyder is Dutch in origin. | |||
The conversation took place on 12 [[April 2010]] and Chris uploaded it to [[YouTube]] later the same day. Shortly after it was posted, the recording was removed from YouTube due to a terms of use violation, either because of Chris's anti-Semitic attitude, because the recording itself may have been [[Chris and the Law|illegal]], or because of the dox and incitement to harass dropped in the description. In the early morning hours of the next day, Chris added a text-only [[:File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|image]] on the front page of [[CWCipedia]] accusing Michael Snyder of [[Kick the Autistic|discriminating against him]] for having [[autism]], and linked to a troll mirror of the deleted video (which he had mistaken for a fan). | |||
One way or another, this video is absolute proof of Chris violating the law—he dropped into the store unannounced with full knowledge that he wasn't supposed to be there. [[Virginia]] defines this as "trespassing", which is a crime punishable by a fine not to exceed $2,500.00, at most one year in prison, or both. According to Mimms, cops were called after this happened, though Michael was unable to press the issue. | |||
==Prelude to the madness== | |||
On 21 April 2010, a [[male|woman]] named [[Jackie]] dropped a number of e-mails<ref>See [[Jackie e-mails]], [[Jackie e-mails Part 2]] and [[Jackie e-mails Part 3]]</ref> between herself and Chris. In one of the letters, Chris reveals that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church the day before the video was released. When one of the cashiers saw Chris and recognized him, he threatened to call the cops. Chris got angry and bolted. | |||
Finding out Michael Snyder would appear the next day, Chris had his plan – approach Michael and attempt to get the ban lifted. Chris's plan was that if Michael did not lift the ban after this long, [[Chris and the Law|he would call the cops]]. Chris hid a camera in his pocket with the intent of using it as evidence in the event he had to resort to this. | |||
==Description== | ==Description== | ||
{{quotebox|This happened on my recent visit to the Game & Hobby Place. My Camera was hidden in my Vest Pocket. | |||
This happened on my recent visit to the Game & Hobby Place. My Camera was hidden in my Vest Pocket. | |||
I encourage all to go there in person, find Michael, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|pester/Troll]] the hell out of him (other employees who support him optional). Also say to Michael, "[[Chris and race|Do Not Discriminate]] Against People like Christian Weston Chandler." | I encourage all to go there in person, find Michael, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|pester/Troll]] the hell out of him (other employees who support him optional). Also say to Michael, "[[Chris and race|Do Not Discriminate]] Against People like Christian Weston Chandler." | ||
243 Ridge McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 984-1040 | 243 Ridge McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 984-1040}} | ||
==Video== | ==Video== | ||
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| name = 04122010 - Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only).MOV | | name = 04122010 - Michael Snyder is <br/>ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only).MOV | ||
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| | | stardate = 12 [[April 2010]] | ||
| subject = {{Game Place|[[Michael Snyder]]}}, {{Racism|[[Jews]]}} | |||
| | | style = {{Rage|text}}, {{Reason|text}} | ||
| | | saga = {{Game Place|text}} | ||
| | | other = {{Audio|text}} | ||
| | | previous = [[F Abstinance]] | ||
| | | next = [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]}} | ||
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{{quote|I'm a better person...}} | |||
[''Chris is speaking into a | ===Transcript=== | ||
[''Chris is speaking into a camcorder. From the sound of it, it seems like he is inside his [[Son-chu|car]].''] | |||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> This is Christian | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> This is Christian Weston Chandler, [[Captain's Log]]. Stardate... 4:34 PM, Monday, April 12, 2010. I am about to go into the Game and Comic and Hobby Place — also sell toys there — to get myself, to try to get myself unbanned and get forgiveness for the mistake I have made almost a year ago when I was banned from the store in June of 2008. | ||
[''Heavy sigh from Chris | [''Heavy [[sigh]] from Chris''] | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> The dude who banned me was, his name is Michael Snyder, possibly a Jew considering his last name. Nothing bad against the Jews, but | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> The dude who banned me was, his name is Michael Snyder, possibly a [[Chris and race#Jews|Jew]] considering his last name. Nothing bad against the Jews, but I'm just throwin' it out there. Alright, so, here I go. [''sigh''] | ||
['' | [''Chris turns off the engine and leaves his car. He approaches The GAMe PLACe, and the chime of the store's door alarm can be heard as he goes inside. "Every Morning" by Sugar Ray faintly plays in the background, while we get a good view of the inside of Chris's pocket.''] | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Hello, I'm here to see Michael. | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Hello, I'm here to see Michael. | ||
'''Employee:''' Yeah, he's in the room back here. | |||
[''We come upon Michael, who is | [''We come upon Michael, who is fixing an RC car. His remarks are occasionally interrupted by whoever he is helping. Judging by the audio, Chris is standing relatively close to him, close enough to occasionally hear whoever Michael is speaking with.''] | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> Well, I mean, you're, you, you'll just see that by running it. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> Well, I mean, you're, you, you'll just see that by running it. I mean, it was running okay the other day. But just, you know, adjust it one way or the other depending on temperature and everything else. But, you know, it just, it's not usually much. By changing fuel, it doesn't usually change... tuning that much. Mmkay... Uh-huh. Yeah, no, it'll be fine... Right, yeah, it'll be fine. [pause] Okay... Okay... Who made it? | ||
[''The recorder seems to move away from the conversation, and a long silence follows.''] | [''The recorder seems to move away from the conversation, and a long silence follows. Various store noises occur in the background, including the bell from someone opening the front door.''] | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> Okay. Alright. Sounds good. Mm-hm. Bye. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> Okay. Alright. Sounds good. Mm-hm. Bye. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Hello, Michael. I see, uh... You've been, I see you're looking well. Haven't changed much since, for the past almost two years. And, yeah, it has been, uh, almost two years since | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Hello, Michael. I see, uh... You've been, I see you're looking well. Haven't changed much since, for the past almost two years. And, yeah, it has been, uh, almost two years since... uh, what happened, uh, June- June 2008. But, uh, I came back hoping that, uh, we could put that behind us and... | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Come on. I mean, it has been almost two years, it's been on my mind for so long, just be... | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Come on. I mean, it has been almost two years, and it's just been on my mind for so long, just be... | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> [''sigh''] But, can't we just forgive and forget? | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> [''sigh''] But, can't we just [[Chris and remorse|forgive]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|and forget]]? | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | ||
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<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> ...weight on my back... | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> ...[[Stress|weight]] on my back... | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> And I have really... | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. | ||
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<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. No. You need to leave now. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No. No. You need to leave now. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I'm, I'm a better person... | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I'm, [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|I'm a better person...]] | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> You need to leave now. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> You need to leave now. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> [''heavy sigh''] C'mon, what, | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> [''heavy sigh''] C'mon, what? Come on, dude... | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No! You need to leave now. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> No! You need to leave now. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> How can you be so heartless? I mean, you're, I mean, you're obviously not as mean as one of those trolls I've been dealing with... | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> [[Twin Falling Towers|How can you be so heartless?]] I mean, you're, I mean, you're obviously not as mean as one of those [[trolls]] I've been dealing with... | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> You need to leave now. | <font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> You need to leave now. | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I mean, come on, I mean, obviously you have something against me, because aside from the Wii incident, I just would like to know what | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I mean, come on, I mean, obviously you have something against me, [''four beeping noises are heard, possibly Michael dialing out to 911''] because aside from the Wii incident, I just would like to know ''what''. Come on. Gimme a break. Alright, fine, I'll leave. | ||
[''His tone becomes sharp and angry''] | [''His tone becomes sharp and angry.''] | ||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> But I hope that God will forgive you for being so heartless and cruel Michael Snyder! JEW! | <font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> But I hope that [[Chris and religion|God will forgive you]] for being so [[Chris and hypocrisy#"I'll pray for you to open your mind" — Tolerance|heartless and cruel]], Michael Snyder! | ||
<font color="#009966"> '''Michael:'''</font> He probably will. | |||
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> {{RageQuote|[[Chris and race#Jews|''JEW!'']]}} | |||
[''Chris goes out the door, tape runs out.''] | [''Chris goes out the door, tape runs out.''] | ||
==Aftermath== | |||
During the confrontation, Michael called the [[jerkops|police]]. However, Chris was long gone by the time they arrived. | |||
On the linked YouTube page the opposite party, Snyder, chimed in to inform everyone that, while he had attempted to press charges against Chris for trespassing, the police informed him that he had no recourse to pursue legal action for Chris's trespassing or attempts to incite harassment. It all seems for naught anyway, as Snyder mentioned that, not only did he not receive any harassing messages, but he actually got messages of congratulations and encouragement for putting Chris in his place. | |||
{{quotebox|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play?? }} | |||
{{quotebox|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing, | |||
Mike<br> | |||
Elvis has left the building }} | |||
===A video with video=== | |||
The next day, [[Vivian Gee]] made a ''[[South Park]]''-style animation using the audio from this clip. Chris himself stopped by to make it clear that he completely missed the point of the video: | |||
{{quotebox|Hey, Vivian. I'm going to tell you right now that if you were trying to offend me with this "South Park" [[Parody]]; You Failed. This is just SOO FUNNY! You ought to know I like "South Park", especially the less dramatic, more comical episodes. ROFL}} | |||
{{quotebox|Actually, there is ONE more thing you could to just make this a TOPPER of a Comical Scene; I gave him the finger as I left for real, so add a [[Wild Sonichu|Sit-And-Spin]] in the silence right before the final insult. ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL}} | |||
{{Infobox/Fanvideo | |||
| name = episode 200 - the game place | |||
| video = {{#ev:youtube|7un_dBl2q2M}} | |||
| stardate = 13 [[April 2010]] | |||
| maker = [[Vivian Gee]] | |||
| subject = | |||
| type = | |||
| info = }} | |||
5 years later, YouTuber Lolwutburger made another ''South Park''-style animation using the same audio, complete with Chris giving Michael the finger, and a helping of cameos from other Christorical figures. | |||
{{Infobox/Fanvideo | |||
| name = South Park: The GAMe PLACe feat. Chris Chan | |||
| video = {{#ev:youtube|BjjIkVEQ9mU}} | |||
| stardate = 15 [[November 2015]] | |||
| maker = [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoGyB0X46kL5Sk4pM9BquVA Lolwutburger]] | |||
| subject = | |||
| type = Flash Animation | |||
| info = }} | |||
==See also== | |||
* [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place]] | |||
* [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]] | |||
* [[28 October 2011]] | |||
==Sources== | |||
<references /> | |||
{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[F Abstinance]]|nextlink=[[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]|}} | |||
{{GamePlaceSaga}} | |||
{{Videos}} | |||
{{Captain's Log}} | |||
[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]] | [[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]] | ||
[[Category:Outdoor videos]] | |||
[[Category:Chris-chan videos, April 2010| 2010-04-12]] | |||
[[Category:The GAMe PLACe]] |
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Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (full title "04122010 - Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only).MOV") is an audio recording released by Chris chronicling an attempt to get himself unbanned from The GAMe PLACe by confronting Michael Snyder, the manager who permanently ejected him from the store in the summer of 2008. Chris recorded their conversation by hiding a video camera in his pocket. The phrase "ColdHearted" in the title is supposed to be a play on the title of Pokémon HeartGold.
As usual, Chris adds this to his list of fails as Michael is unmoved by his attempts to get back in, and is entirely justified in this belief. According to Michael himself, Chris's plea was a script he had written down on a piece of paper. He also, it seems, can't remember why he was kicked out of the store in the first place. He mentions a "Wii incident," an occasion where he angered the management with his regular habit of taking over the store's flatscreen TV with his video game consoles, but otherwise he appears to be genuinely confused as to why Snyder won't let him back in. Oddly, yet hilariously, Chris adds to his streak of racist videos by shouting "JEW!" at Michael as he leaves the store, like a certain other egotistical psychopathic fat kid. Of note, Michael is not actually Jewish, and the last name Snyder is Dutch in origin.
The conversation took place on 12 April 2010 and Chris uploaded it to YouTube later the same day. Shortly after it was posted, the recording was removed from YouTube due to a terms of use violation, either because of Chris's anti-Semitic attitude, because the recording itself may have been illegal, or because of the dox and incitement to harass dropped in the description. In the early morning hours of the next day, Chris added a text-only image on the front page of CWCipedia accusing Michael Snyder of discriminating against him for having autism, and linked to a troll mirror of the deleted video (which he had mistaken for a fan).
One way or another, this video is absolute proof of Chris violating the law—he dropped into the store unannounced with full knowledge that he wasn't supposed to be there. Virginia defines this as "trespassing", which is a crime punishable by a fine not to exceed $2,500.00, at most one year in prison, or both. According to Mimms, cops were called after this happened, though Michael was unable to press the issue.
Prelude to the madness
On 21 April 2010, a woman named Jackie dropped a number of e-mails[1] between herself and Chris. In one of the letters, Chris reveals that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church the day before the video was released. When one of the cashiers saw Chris and recognized him, he threatened to call the cops. Chris got angry and bolted.
Finding out Michael Snyder would appear the next day, Chris had his plan – approach Michael and attempt to get the ban lifted. Chris's plan was that if Michael did not lift the ban after this long, he would call the cops. Chris hid a camera in his pocket with the intent of using it as evidence in the event he had to resort to this.
Description
This happened on my recent visit to the Game & Hobby Place. My Camera was hidden in my Vest Pocket.
I encourage all to go there in person, find Michael, and pester/Troll the hell out of him (other employees who support him optional). Also say to Michael, "Do Not Discriminate Against People like Christian Weston Chandler." 243 Ridge McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 984-1040 |
Video
04122010 - Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only).MOV | |
Direct link | YouTube, archive |
Stardate | 12 April 2010 |
Subject Matter | Michael Snyder, Jews |
Performance Style | Rage, Reason |
Saga | The GAMe PLACe |
Other | Audio |
OFFICIAL and HONEST CWC Videos | |
previous F Abstinance |
next For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV |
“ | I'm a better person... | ” |
Transcript
[Chris is speaking into a camcorder. From the sound of it, it seems like he is inside his car.]
Chris: This is Christian Weston Chandler, Captain's Log. Stardate... 4:34 PM, Monday, April 12, 2010. I am about to go into the Game and Comic and Hobby Place — also sell toys there — to get myself, to try to get myself unbanned and get forgiveness for the mistake I have made almost a year ago when I was banned from the store in June of 2008.
[Heavy sigh from Chris]
Chris: The dude who banned me was, his name is Michael Snyder, possibly a Jew considering his last name. Nothing bad against the Jews, but I'm just throwin' it out there. Alright, so, here I go. [sigh]
[Chris turns off the engine and leaves his car. He approaches The GAMe PLACe, and the chime of the store's door alarm can be heard as he goes inside. "Every Morning" by Sugar Ray faintly plays in the background, while we get a good view of the inside of Chris's pocket.]
Chris: Hello, I'm here to see Michael.
Employee: Yeah, he's in the room back here.
[We come upon Michael, who is fixing an RC car. His remarks are occasionally interrupted by whoever he is helping. Judging by the audio, Chris is standing relatively close to him, close enough to occasionally hear whoever Michael is speaking with.]
Michael: Well, I mean, you're, you, you'll just see that by running it. I mean, it was running okay the other day. But just, you know, adjust it one way or the other depending on temperature and everything else. But, you know, it just, it's not usually much. By changing fuel, it doesn't usually change... tuning that much. Mmkay... Uh-huh. Yeah, no, it'll be fine... Right, yeah, it'll be fine. [pause] Okay... Okay... Who made it?
[The recorder seems to move away from the conversation, and a long silence follows. Various store noises occur in the background, including the bell from someone opening the front door.]
Michael: Okay. Alright. Sounds good. Mm-hm. Bye.
Chris: Hello, Michael. I see, uh... You've been, I see you're looking well. Haven't changed much since, for the past almost two years. And, yeah, it has been, uh, almost two years since... uh, what happened, uh, June- June 2008. But, uh, I came back hoping that, uh, we could put that behind us and...
Michael: No.
Chris: Come on. I mean, it has been almost two years, and it's just been on my mind for so long, just be...
Michael: No.
Chris: [sigh] But, can't we just forgive and forget?
Michael: No.
Chris: C'mon, to have this...
Michael: No.
Chris: ...weight on my back...
Michael: No.
Chris: And I have really...
Michael: No.
Chris: ...missed coming here.
Michael: No. No. You need to leave now.
Chris: I'm, I'm a better person...
Michael: You need to leave now.
Chris: [heavy sigh] C'mon, what? Come on, dude...
Michael: No! You need to leave now.
Chris: How can you be so heartless? I mean, you're, I mean, you're obviously not as mean as one of those trolls I've been dealing with...
Michael: You need to leave now.
Chris: I mean, come on, I mean, obviously you have something against me, [four beeping noises are heard, possibly Michael dialing out to 911] because aside from the Wii incident, I just would like to know what. Come on. Gimme a break. Alright, fine, I'll leave.
[His tone becomes sharp and angry.]
Chris: But I hope that God will forgive you for being so heartless and cruel, Michael Snyder!
Michael: He probably will.
Chris:
[Chris goes out the door, tape runs out.]
Aftermath
During the confrontation, Michael called the police. However, Chris was long gone by the time they arrived.
On the linked YouTube page the opposite party, Snyder, chimed in to inform everyone that, while he had attempted to press charges against Chris for trespassing, the police informed him that he had no recourse to pursue legal action for Chris's trespassing or attempts to incite harassment. It all seems for naught anyway, as Snyder mentioned that, not only did he not receive any harassing messages, but he actually got messages of congratulations and encouragement for putting Chris in his place.
I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play?? |
I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike |
A video with video
The next day, Vivian Gee made a South Park-style animation using the audio from this clip. Chris himself stopped by to make it clear that he completely missed the point of the video:
Hey, Vivian. I'm going to tell you right now that if you were trying to offend me with this "South Park" Parody; You Failed. This is just SOO FUNNY! You ought to know I like "South Park", especially the less dramatic, more comical episodes. ROFL |
Actually, there is ONE more thing you could to just make this a TOPPER of a Comical Scene; I gave him the finger as I left for real, so add a Sit-And-Spin in the silence right before the final insult. ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL |
episode 200 - the game place | |
Stardate | 13 April 2010 |
Made By | Vivian Gee |
TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos |
5 years later, YouTuber Lolwutburger made another South Park-style animation using the same audio, complete with Chris giving Michael the finger, and a helping of cameos from other Christorical figures.
South Park: The GAMe PLACe feat. Chris Chan | |
Stardate | 15 November 2015 |
Made By | [Lolwutburger] |
Video Type | Flash Animation |
TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos |
See also
Sources
⇐ F Abstinance | Chris's videos | For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV ⇒ |
GAMe PLACe Saga | ||
The Players: | The Games: | The Prizes: |
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Coinciding Sagas: Megan, First Exile, Jackie, Second Exile |
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