Open Relationship E-mails

Renee E-mails

Renee

The following are e-mails exchanged between Chris and Renee, who was played by the same troll as Rebeckah. When she was "introduced" to Chris, it was clearly established Renee was not a potential sweetheart because she was in a long-term relationship.

Renee was Catherine's friend and knew Colin as well thus allowing her to pass messages between the principals involved while playing the viewpoint of a concerned friend to contrast with Chris's creepiness.

The Hooker Story

About one month into their relationship, Chris sent Renee an attached text document, originally written for someone else, dated 4 April 2012. In it Chris relates the story of how he lost his virginity, almost immediately after the fact. Some individuals' identities have been redacted.

The Lunar has Finally Launched Christian Weston Chandler to Well, I am No Longer a Virgin! :) I will tell Only You the story; I want you to keep it Most Strictly Confidential between just you and me; although if and when I finally do get a girlfriend who stays with me for a long while, I will inform her about it as well. I will be deleting this e-mail from my side of the mailbox, after copying/pasting the text onto a notepad file backed up on a memory card. I arrive at the predetermined destination of the intersection of 29 and 250; therein lies over four hotels, including the nearby English Inn. I stay assumed with the Days Inn. I try again with Riley, And I shot for Kristy; Riley did not answer at all. Kristen stated, "I am very busy now". So, in my cell contacts, out of the ones you have provided for me from the backpage, I call up the one I had assumed as a long shot, because of the enclosed image of a company logo on her page, the one called Mia "Hamm" (Hamm is not her real last name, and IMHO, it does not do her justice; she deserves a better name than that). She Answers. I introduced myself; told her I found her on the backpage; she sounded mature in her voice; down to earth. I was in the Days Inn parking lot; she confirmed she was in 338. I arrive at her door and knocked three times. It's about 4:30 PM. She opens and invites me in; unexpectantly, but not surprising, I was also greeted with the smell of aged smoke; she had done the weed. I complained a little, and I sniff up a small handful of hand sanitizer; it quelled it down for me. Mia was very nice, likeable and down to earth; and she was 24. I forgot to mention, she greeted me in a black lace negligee. She had an average figure; her breasts were a C; she had a lip ring bauble, tongue ring bauble, and ring baubles in each of her fine nipples. We casually strip for each other; we communicated good throughout. She was fixed, but she insisted I be protected as well. She offers me a green, apple-flavored condom; I lie on the bed naked; she was naked; she had the condom in the edge of her lips. She mouths it onto my most erect penis, and she gives me a very good B.J. Her tongue bauble was a very delightful and stimulating bonus onto my hard one. As she blows me, I place my hands on her shoulders. After she was done, she laid beside me; her pussy was wet; we handled each other. Her vaginal opening felt really good, and I found her clit, yet she was very clear about me keeping my fingers Outside; I respected her request. Then we roll into each other; we make out (no tongues) with peckings and open-mouth. We touched each other; her skin was very smooth; my 5:00 made my chin a bit rough. Her long, black hair was silky, smooth and shiny; her blue eyes smiled at me, and so did she. I gave her a sample of my strong-handed massage that my mother enjoyed in the past. Mia really like that. Then, I felt and informed her that I was ready to go in. I requested Cowgirl, with possible missionary later, but that did not happen. Her pelvic thrusts were amazing; her pussy was tight, even after pushing two daughters out of there years ago. And I supported her thrusts with my hands on her knees, weaving back and forth. I also gave her breasts a good thrusting. I felt her front pelvic bone, which really made the top of the game. She came and I came, but on my coming, it was only half-felt. And the semen that was mostly outside, but a smidge on the outside of the condom, confirmed it. Then I washed my dick with a washcloth I brought with me, and dried it off with a towel I also brought. I was really satisfied. Then we conversed the rest of the $150 hour; it was very pleasant. She is a mother of two; they're staying with her mama; papa bear ditched Mia; it is very sad. She goes from town to town, and she is getting education for a better future along the way. Her individual escort service is a quick spot of cash for her. God bless her and her family. I also told her a bit of myself here and there, including the trolls/cyber-bullies. Mia is also Half-Cherokee, so that was an unexpected good bonus. I told her a few funny bits; informed her of what I knew of the weed from Family Guy and that one episode of South Park, "Medicinal Fried Chicken". We had a few good laughs. Then her clock chimes, alerting her that her next appointment was arriving, so we hugged another time, and I got out of her hair. I promised I would call her later. I did, about 6:30; she had already finished with the next fellow; he was a disappointment to her; his was smaller than mine; a "weiner in a hallway" situation. She really enjoyed my dick, and my personality. I pray the best blessings for her and her daughters. Plus, I may well likely see her again another month, when she's in town, and if I'm not in jail. The whole thing felt natural to me the further it went; I was also surprised that I did not have a premature ejaculation. It was awesome, pleasant and soo good. Worth it. Only you, until my girlfriend comes around, knows the story. But as for everyone else, all they will get to read from me is, "I am not a virgin anymore." TTYL, and Stay Safe, Christian Weston Chandler. April 4, 2012 Sidenote: Right before, on the radio station, Z-95.1, Katy Perry's "Teenage Dream" played. And right after leaving, Kelly Clarkson's "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) played. Soo Appropriate, AND the BEST Combination for the occassion. :)

Need my daughter

On 12 November 2014, Chris received a letter from Fairfax Cryobank rejecting him as a sperm donor. That same day, he sent the following texts to Renee:

12 November 2014 Hey, Renee. I'm feeling a bit lonely right now. My donor application got rejected. So, I'm stuck in searching for a woman to have my daughter (if not Catie). I would ask you, but you're going through a LOT right now, and I wouldn't want to bother you about it. I really miss you. Please respond. I wish you could be here. I am still praying for you.

Banned everywhere

22 November 2014:

I still have the Zapbud medallion I made for you, that I was going to give you on Halloween (oh, well). I still want you to have it, as a token of our friendship, and potential benefits (but Mostly on our friendship). I can mail it out to you in NH, even to a PO Box of your if applicable. I would keep your info Most Strictly Confidential, I Promise. Aside from that, what happened to me that knocked me for the loop the past week: aside from my silent, peaceful protest of Sonic's arm colour change in the new games and TV show, I got banned from my local Target for Cursing the "Security" Janekop. The damn Manajerk gave me a difficult time as well. UGH!!! But, when one door closes, another opens: I still needed to buy a couple of groceries for my family, so I drove up to Wal-Mart in Charlottesville (I got banned from the one in Ruckersville over a year or two ago for defacing an XBox One standee by adding an "H" next to the logo, next to the "X", to spell "HeXBox One". I do not like or care for XBox at all, especially since that is the favourite gaming platform for the damn Trolls and Cyber-Bullies. I was feeling upset from my own loneliness as well at the time. Shortly after that, word got to the one in CVille, and the Manajerk gave me trouble there as well. But I went in last Sunday, after Target, with my sunglasses on: No Trouble from anyone. I REALLY despise and loathe the embarrassment and crap from being Banned anywhere. I was banned from PVCC for two years, middle of earning my CADD-CAM Degree, for trouble with the Dean of Student Services in the early start of my Sweetheart Search in '03, banned in early '04, for my own emotional and anger responses to her intruding in my Search by Destroying My Signs (I was so damn shy, that I required a "I am a single male, looking for a single (matching-age) female to be my Sweetheart from the ground up"). I learned and realized a few years later that sort of thing was considered solicitation, and I had not done that again since. was rebanned from PVCC after earning my degree three years later. I also got Banned from the Game & Hobby PLace, because the Manajerk there plain did not like me at all. I got banned from Fashion Square mall for emotionally being loud in outbursts on the phone to a few incoming troll calls. That was Over two years ago; I might be able to sneak my way back in there now. And among which, between the bannings, and a few trouble with Troll instances, I was handcuffed by the Jerkops like four or five times, and under a misunderstanding at the PLace in late '11, both my mother and I spent a really miserable night in jail. For Hours, I had thought it was still 7:27 PM, because there was no clock nearby to check. I went bonkers worrying over my mother in that cell. We got out the next morning with help from a friend of ours at my church. before that year, and the Manajerk, Snyder, did not get any money he was expecting, and had to close down the PLace last year. And my mother and I will have our "Felon" labels hanging above our heads removed middle of next year. Being Banned from Anywhere really Hurts! **sigh** I just try not to think about the bad things and move forward with my life. And sometimes, I vent or think about other things.

Barb is borrowing from Chris's life insurance

25 November 2014 That's cool. My mom has just sorted everything out: she borrowed from my life insurance, and we are renting a second storage unit to put the furniture in. It's all better now.

Repiercing The Taint

On 4 December 2014, Chris revealed that he repierced his taint with gold jewelry.

Hey, Renee! 1:42 PM I got the new gold barbell jewelry piece, and I will be getting repierced later today. 1:44 PM Let's pray that in a month, this one does not go migrating either. 1:44 PM I'm sending caring vibes and love your way! Have a lovely and 1:45 PM safe day. 1:45 PM

Barb is flirting

7 December 2014 right now, my mother and I are expecting to be moving back into our renovated house within the next couple of weeks. I would expect Christmas to be simple at home this year. But if you can make it, I would totally love and be delighted to spend time with you. The people at Rainbow are going to lend us a truck to help us get the lot of our stuff moved from here and the Storage Unit to there. My mother has been flirting with the males there and among the construction crew.

No Longer Together With Catherine

On 10 December 2014, Chris confirmed that he and Catherine (a fake sweetheart created by trolls) were no longer together.

I am feeling sad. While she still wants to be friends, Catie just told me she does not want to be in a relationship with 9:54 PM me; essentially dumping me. She took this from when I reacted when she went out with Colin in New York; I was still learning the understanding of being in an 9:55 PM open relationship. I Have learned from the mistakes and improved, yet she said half to the relationship with me. 9:55 PM I am hurting in my heart right now. I'll check in with you later. 9:55 PM

End of the Un-clit

On 12 December 2014, Chris revealed that he gave up on the piercing.

I have an update to just let you know: the patch of skin the jewelry was in was shrinking again. I have just removed the barbell and spheres; I am 6:05 AM giving up on that piercing now. 6:05 AM

Trolls are hacking his text messages

On 14 December 2014, in his usual paranoia Chris thought that trolls were hacking into his text messages.

<Subject: **Breaking the fourth wall**> - Hey Trolls, I Know you all are hacking into my text messages and pinning my women friends as trolls themselves. Your tricks and cons will not work on me ever again. 12:29 AM <Subject: Because, of you Trolls> - I do not care or give a crap. 12:30 AM Renee, don't worry about the Trolls; they are always looking into hackery and crap. I don't care what they want to think or hate about me, regardless of what I 12:32 AM say or feel. You shouldn't worry about them either. 12:32 AM

Modelling Career

On the same day, he asked Renee to help him in his modelling career.

Also, would you help me put together a modeling portfolio, and teach me to become more sex positive 4:53 PM and all that like we talked about before? 4:54 PM

Neutral Christmas

20 December 2014:

Well, right now for me, Christmas is going to be neutral around here; the house won't be ready before the holiday. So, it'll just be a peaceful day at home with the family.

Pained thud

24 December 2014:

My heart has been hurting, and making it more difficult to feel Christmas Spirit or, with the Autism, appreciate any positive emotions and... ...vibes from most anyone else. I can appreciate it from my mother and pets. But everyone else, nada and/or a pained thud in my heart.

Depressed on Christmas

25 December 2014:

I got the family time, and I got a little bonus cash and bought the Light and Dark expansions for Skylander Trap Team. I've been working taking the dogs to the sitter; our cat refused to get into the carrier. The only things, either of which, would have made me feel better: waking up next to and sharing the holiday with my Sweetheart/Girlfriend, or a Magical Transformation of my body from Male to completely Female. And my heart has been aching off and on. I'm busy getting on in sorting and packing for our move next week.

I hope your house burns down

7 January 2015:

You are being Unfriendly to me and a Meanie. 11:48 AM I hope your house burns down with You and your Jerk boyfriend inside. Good Day. 11:51 AM

One inch shorter

11 January 2015:

I am feeling very sad and upset right now. I think I've shrunk in height by one inch. And because I lost your love, I have been feeling a LOT worse...: 3:55 AM ...for wear. And I do not care if you share this with the damn Trolls or not; I Know you have been on their forums sharing about everything. 3:56 AM Good Luck with that weighing down on your individual fucked-up head. 3:56 AM

Shaina E-mails

The following are the Open Relationship E-mails which are leaked on the CWCki Forums on 19 December 2014.

Re: Just checking From: Shaina Cohen To: Christian Chandler 28 Sep 2014 at 7:30 PM Hi Christian, I actually haven't seen Catherine since about 3 this afternoon. Nikki surprised Catherine by asking her to be a bridesmaid at her wedding, and this afternoon we had a party to celebrate (more of a brunch really). After the party Colin (one of the groomsmen) asked Catherine and I to go sailing, followed by dinner afterwards. I told Colin and Catherine to go without me. because I was still feeling hung-over from the bachelorette party, and spending a few hours on the water with my queasy stomach didn't sound very appealing. I tried calling Catherine a couple of times, but she's not answering her phone. Depending on what time she and Colin got back, they could still be having dinner (which would explain why her phone is turned off). I'm not sure which train she's catching to get home. I'll let you know when I hear from her. Shaina

28 Sep 2014 at 6:18 PM Please reply and let me know: how did Catherine look to feeling better upon leaving the bachelorette party ? Stay Safe with Peace, Christian W. Chandler (sent from my iPod)

Re: Just checking 28 Sep 2014 at 9:28 PM To: Shaina Cohen I pray Colin is not trying anything funny on her, even though our relationship is open. I would continue to support her for who she is and everything. But I do not know who Colin is, and I feel at unease with the risk of breaking up with me going on. I pray she doesn't fall for him or anything. **sigh** I am feeling worry over Catherine. Please Do keep me posted on her. And if you get in touch with her very soon, please tell her I am still sorry over what happened, I continue to pray for her safety and well-being, I worry about her. and I miss her a lot. Even though it has been like three days, it really feels like forever. You know what. I am going to text that to her right now! Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

Shaina Cohen to Christian 28 Sep 2014 You don't have to worry about Colin. I've known him for a few years. He's a very nice guy from a very respectable (and wealthy) family. He's not the type of guy that would try anything inappropriate with Catherine. I still haven't heard from her, but that doesn't mean that anything is wrong. She may have turned her phone off. and just forgotten to turn it on again. I've turned off my phone while at a movie, then forgotten to turn it on again afterwards. I'm sure everything is fine. Shaina

28 Sep 2014 You've just made me feel worse. Financial details were the subject of this dispute! Ugh!!! Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

Shaina Cohen to Christian 28 Sep 2014 I'm sorry Christian, I wasn't trying to make you feel bad. I was just trying to reassure you that Colin was from a good family and was of good character. He's not the kind of person who would force himself on a woman. If he were the kind of person you're worried about. I would have said something to Catherine. Shaina

29 Sep 2014 Well, there's not much else I can do. I've already texted her. I pray she responds soon. I understand her for being a strong and strong-willed woman, but I still worry and care about and for her. When you called her phone; does it go straight to voicemail; that is how you know her phone is off or disabled? And have you tried calling Colin to check on her? Also, how soon from now is the wedding?

What's Going On With You? Shaina Cohen, to colinbryceboyle, Christian, bcc: Catherine 29 Sep 2014 I'm curious. What's going on with you and Catherine? I haven't heard from her since you and she left to go sailing. Did you end up taking her to Le Cirque? Anyway, I've tried calling her and I texted her several times. She finally texted me a few hours ago. All she said was that she's going to be staying in the city for a few more days. So dish.... what's going on? What have the two of you been up to? Shaina

Please Ignore My Previous Email Shaina Cohen to Christian 29 Sep 2014 I meant to cc Catherine and I cc'd you instead. Sorry, Shaina

29 Sep 2014 That's alright; I read it anyway. I promise not to contact Colin. And please forgive me if I am acting in a bit of. well, somewhat off or mal-content. but I am worrying about our relationship so much. And I am fearing that Colin may be turning Catherine on. Feel free to ignore the following request, but should Colin respond that he is attracting her well, I want you to tell him to be repellant to her. I feel certain he would not honor or respect her for the person and bisexual she is, nor would he offer her the open relationship with deepest care, fondness and loyalties to her that I have been. I wish I could afford to make a trip to New York myself to intervene with honor and stand up for our relationship, but too much responsibility here and lack of funds prevent me from much sorts of a rush and spontaneous trip. UGH!!! I appreciate you contacting him to find out more. Thank You. Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

I'm sorry 29 Sep 2014 But my heart and my feelings are too powerful for me to keep that promise. I am going to contact Colin via email and tell him she has my heart and soul in her heart! Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

Now I fear worse 29 Sep 2014 I told Colin I was Catherine was my Sweetheart; he'll likely tell Everyone on the Internet Now, and the Trolls and Bullies will spam Her email box! UGH! My intentions were good; I was really worried and concerned about her. But getting Trolled in the process, good intentions alone won't establish forgiveness. UGH!!! I Majorly Screwed Us Both Up!!! Got Dang It!!! Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

Shaina Cohen to Christian 30 Sep 2014 Christian, Colin may be angry right now. but he's not a troll, and he's not going to give out Catherine's email address. He's not that kind of a person. Even if he is mad at you, I'm sure he wouldn't do that to her. He was abrupt with you because you kept pestering him and he got angry. Colin also has a very odd sense of humor, which can rub you the wrong way if you don't know him. You've got nothing to worry about. I'm sure Catherine will be in touch with you.

30 Sep 2014 That's cool, I guess. I am going to apologize to Colon [sic] for jumping to conclus...

Shaina Cohen to Christian 30 Sep 2014 Christian, Trust me, just leave him alone for now.

I'm not sure 29 Sep 2014 I just called Catherine's phone; it rang a few times and then voicemail. I left her a message, letting her know Shaina and I contacted Colin, and that we've been worried about her: I Have Been Worried About Her! Shaina, has Colon [sic] emailed you back? Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

Shaina Cohen to Christian 29 Sep 2014 Oh yeah, and he gave me shit about ccing you on that message. Colin is a nice guy, but he can be a bit abrupt, especially if someone says something to piss him off. He says you keep bothering him. and that you've been insulting and made threats. If he thinks you're messing with him, he's not going to be very nice. I really wish you had left this alone Christian. I tried to do you a favor by contacting Colin to try and find out what was going on. Now he's pissed at me and. as a result, he probably won't tell me anything.

30 Sep 2014 I am Royally Sorry! Ugh!!! Either my heart was in the right place, or I am Soo dumb and retarded!

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Colin E-mails

Hello, Colin On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:46 PM, chrischansonichu wrote: You may or may not have heard of me from Catherine, or you don’t know me. But Shaina and Rebeckah know me! I am Christian Weston Chandler of Ruckersville, VA; artist, crafter, and creator of Sonichu and Rosechu, the Electric-Hedgehog Pokemon, and my city of Cwcville, VA, USA, with a comic book series, websites lost to cyber-bullies; I am Very Famous Worldwide for Good and Bad! Anyway, Catherine and I have been getting on knowing each other, growing mutual deep emotions and fondness with mutual care and respect, for over a month now. Recent events have her feeling off, and I Really Wish for her and mine relationship to be Forever Lasting. Your Possible Flirtatious Actions and Wealthy Tricks with Deceptions are NOT helpful in the situation! As I have a lot of worry and care and respect for her Very Much! Not only That, but I fully support her for the Orientation she is, as well as The Sweetest, Kindest and most True and Pure Soul that she is! I can only imagine that your Cold, Money-Filled Blue Blood will not satisfy or fulfill her emotional needs. She and I are a great 95+% Match from the over one thousand questions we both have answered on our OKCupid Profiles! You can never top that! If you have any shred of a heart or respect as a human being, I would deeply appreciate it if you would be repellant to Catherine, and encourage her to stay with the one who can Emotionally Support Her Fully and Utmost! Me! Thank You, and I will wish you a good and safe day for now. Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Colin Bryce Boyle wrote: LOL. Did someone put you up to this? This is a joke, right?

From: <chrischansonichu Date: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Hello, Colin. To: Colin Bryce Boyle No! I am Very Serious! Shaina has told me about you inviting her and Catherine for a sail on your boat, and possibly making it to La Cirque. Please, with due respect, tell me what has been going on with you and Catherine the while. Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

Colin Bryce Boyle to chrischansonicu 29 Sep 2014 First you insult me by saying how my 'cold, money filled blue blood....blah, blah, blah...then you make a veiled threat (you wish me a good and safe day for now, wtf?). I don’t appreciate your attitude, and I’m not telling you squat. None of this is any of your business anyway.

29 Sep 2014 I apologize for sounding threatening, but she is my Sweetheart, as always First in My Heart. I have been worrying about her since Thursday. With due respect, this is Very Much My Business! That is MY Girlfriend, Sweetheart, Heartthrob and Truest Love of My Entire Life. I have every right to know what has been happening, and to confirm that she is safe and well, especially directly from her. For all I know about you, you could be some sort of women heartbreaking playboy with little to no regard or care for any of the women whose hearts have been broken! Now, Please tell me, AND Shaina, what has been happening with Catherine, Immediately! Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

Colin Bryce Boyle 29 Sep 2014 If you want to talk to Catherine, you can call her yourself. If she doesn't want to talk to you, I'm not going to force her. I’m not your personal messenger.

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More Shaina E-mails

1 October 2014 Christian to Shaina Have you heard anything new from Catie? I texted her agln yesterday now; still nothing. I am not going to be able to ease up on the worry until I hear from her again. Our relationship was on a thin line the last time we talked last Thursday (I forwarded the emails to you). I feel need to know for sure that she and I are still a couple, and that need is growing more desperate for me each passing day. I even thought about her when I responded to Britney Spears talking about how women should be more self-confident, and that men were not needed, on Facebook. Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

Subject: Fwd: Hello, Colin. Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 16:43:01-0400 To: [Catherine] From: chrischansonichu Shaina and I, we were both worried about you during the time. Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

From: Catherine S. Date: October 1, 2014 at 5:27:44 PM EDT To: chrischansonichu Subject: RE: Hello, Colin. Nothing happened. Colin and I hung out as friends and he treated me. Very well. How do you think you can handle an open relationship if this is how you react to the alight possibility to me being with someone else? Also I'm staying with my dad right now. I don't like how you keep inviting yourself over to my place.

1 October 2014 2:18 PM Christian to Shaina Hey, Shaina. Mostly Good News: Catie is talking with me again. And she was okay during her time with Colin, as seen in the forwarded email. She is back here near Virginia again. She and I have some major issues to talk about, but it is a step in the right direction. :) Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

1 October 2014 7:44 PM Shaina to Christian Thanks for letting me know Christian. I actually heard from Catherine a little while ago. She emailed me to let me know that she was going to be able to make it down for Halloween weekend. I'm going to get Catherine hooked up with a really nice costume. It should be fun.

1 October 2014 7:51 PM Christian to Shaina That's nice. I would suggest something of the past, like an English Dress. She and I, we were going to do a "Lesbians Through Time" Theme between our matching costumes. I will put together a 70s Groovy Gal outfit for the Modern Lesbian; she was to be the Past Lesbian. Also, check this out: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_lesbianism_in_the_United_States It is a Great Read. Melissa Etheridge is a Lesbian too. Also, Catie is going through a rough time herself (I will let her tell you herself), but good news: she and I are still In Our Relationship as a couple. But in her patch, I really do feel for her as well; I have gone through similar times with my father a lot up to his passing. Thank you for checking in.

1 October 2014 7:55 PM Shaina to Christian Oh, Catherine and I were talking about more of a Catwoman/Dominatrix sort of thing. There's a prize for the best costume, and it would be fun if Catherine won. (I won 2 years ago so I've had my turn.) I'll run your idea by her and see what she thinks. Catherine explained to me that you and she had an open relationship. That's very impressive. There aren't a lot of people that are that open minded.

On Oct 2, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Shaina Cohen wrote: Hi Christian, I passed your suggestion along to Catherine. Colin had already talked her into going as a dominatrix. She was really amused by the idea. Colin is going to go as her slave. (The whole slave thing made me uneasy, because Colin is black. NYC is a very politically correct place. He's OK with it though so I guess they'll be fine. "Slave" means something completely different in BDSM circles anyway.) I really think they may have a shot at winning the costume contest. Maybe Catie will she'll send you some pics of her in her costume if you ask nice. Shaina

3 October 2014 9:33 AM Christian to Shaina Really? Colin is black? Huh. I mean, it is cool; I guessed he was white. I stand corrected. I will not oppose or anything like that. After what she is going through with her father right now and all, she deserves to have the fun. She has expressed interest in dominating in her OKC profile, so I had known about that. She answered Over One Thousand Questions on there; I answered all of them as well, which put her and me at a 97% Match. I would like to see her in the costume; I will ask her for photos later. Thank you for telling me. Have a good and safe day. Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

3 October 2014 1:27 PM Shaina to Christian Yeah, Colin is black. I found a picture of him for you, it's from his 2013 business trip to China.

3 October 2014 3:44 PM Shaina to Christian Christian, I just wanted to let you know that everything is OK between Colin and I now. He's not mad at me anymore for letting you get a hold of his email address.

3 October 2014 4:14 PM Christian to Shaina Would you please correct Colin on me being serious about Brassieres for Males. His message here makes me feel at unease. I'm forwarding it to Catherine. Stay Safe with Peace, Christian W. Chandler

3 October 2014 4:29 PM Shaina to Christian Christian, Just tell him yourself. He's OK with you emailing him, so I am as well. Besides, you can explain the idea for Brassieres for Males far better than I can. To be honest Christian, I don't get it either, I love topless (and bottomless) males. Most girls do. :)

3 October 2014 7:18 PM Christian to Shaina You don't get why males should be top-covered? Well, for one thing, I find their BREASTS simply horrific and vulgar, and the nipples do not help them either. Second, a LOT of Males are going to end up with drooping "B" Cup or Bigger breasts ANYWAY; would you want those things flopping all about while they're topless? I would not! BLECH!!! Third, there is a Major thing called MODESTY; not many people like show-offs. UGH!!! SUPER SERIOUSLY, those UGLY, OFFENSIVE, VULGAR TOPLESS HIDES JUST GIVE ME REALLY BAD SHIVERS AND QUAKES; NEAR ENOUGH TO CAUSE A FREAKING SEIZURE!!! |:( Males Must Be Top-Covered!!! Sent from my iPhone Stay Safe, Christian W. Chandler

3 October 2014 9:01 PM Shaina to Christian Christian, I don't understand why you seem so angry. Very few people get offended by shirtless males or male nudity or whatever. You expressed your personal preference, I expressed mine. No harm, no foul. I've seen quite a lot of topless males, and the ones that have large floppy breasts are usually that way because they're fat or they have a medical condition. It's not as common as you make it out to be. Honestly Christian, do you really think it's worth getting yourself this worked up over something so trivial? If you don't like topless men, look away (and stay out of male strip clubs). And, just between you and me, this is one of the things that bothers Catherine about you. She hasn't told you because she's waiting for the right time. I'm telling you as a favor.

3 October 2014 9:28 PM Christian to Shaina Oh. I apologize for my attitude earlier; I was going under mental (adjustment) stress over it being early to me for either of us to, well, sex with other people, when she and I have not yet. I told her about that earlier today. I had guessed she was mutual on the feeling, but I was mistaken. The open relationship Was my idea, including for supporting her for being a bisexual; free to explore. But now she wants to see Colin more, and then he told me about her telling him of her desire for a menage a trios with two males. Anyway, I collected myself, and I told her that as long as she still loves and cares about me, as much as I do for her, I won't be upset if she wants to do anything with Colin. But with him, I feel need to emphasize that it would have to be with HER Sober Consent towards doing anything. I am trusting him in keeping her safe and well, but if he does anything to her against her will and consent, well that is just plain downright awful of him!!! And Catherine is put off by me due to how I feel about topless men? Uh... I don't know what to think or say in response to that. She means the world to me, but then I feel strongly towards the cause. I feel conflictions that I need to sort out through. Let me ask you, Shaina, do you REALLY BELIEVE that More than Half of the Whole Population between BOTH Genders do not feel offense, even from the WORST Case Scenario of the male breasts?! I feel you could ask around; maybe start a Public Poll; asking EVERYONE to Vote Once Per Person, Are They Really Not Offended by the Males' Bare Breasts? If you can prove to me, out of OVER One Million People, that more than half of them are Truly Not Offended, I will close the Facebook Page, and reprogram my mind tediously to not feel offended at the sight, or at least tolerate them. UGH! Actually, in mid to heavy public situations, I would tolerate them anyway (while averting my gaze). **groan** Stay Safe with Peace Christian W. Chandler (sent from my iPod)

3 October 2014 9:45 PM Shaina to Chris Christian, I'm glad to see that you've calmed down. Didn't Catherine tell you that we went to a male strip club after the bachelorette party (and those guys took off more than just their shirts)? Anyway, based on what I saw at the party, Catherine definitely does enjoy bare male chests (and nudity) so it would probably be a good idea to not keep bringing this up around her. And yes, I not only believe that most people don't have an issue with topless males (whether they have moobs or not) I know this to be a fact, based on my experience. As a matter of fact, you're the first person I've ever met that has this odd prejudice. And no, I'm not conducting a poll - :). I've got better things to do. If you feel that strongly about your topless men Facebook page, leave it up. All joking aside, how often do you actually encounter topless men? I doubt very much that they're walking around in the street, or in stores or restaurants. It seems to me that you won't have a lot of trouble avoiding them.