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According to [[Christian Weston Chandler]], he has at least one '''Cherokee ancestor''', about whom he assuredly knows nothing.<ref>[[War Paint Video]]</ref> When Chris was making the early issues of the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic]], he decided to establish a backstory for why he had the power to transform into a [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|super powered furfag]]. He hit the [[wigwam]], and eventually came up with "[[Anchuent Prophecy|ancient Native American prophecy]]" as his explanation. This gave him the opportunity to talk about his alleged cultural background in the comic. Being that he knew nothing about real Cherokee however, (and even less about his ancestor specifically), he instead decided to just make up his own version of the Cherokee and his ancestor, and assumed it was true to life.
According to [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], he has at least one '''Cherokee ancestor''', about whom he assuredly knows nothing.<ref>[[War Paint Video]]</ref> When Chris was making the early issues of the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic]], he decided to establish a backstory for why he had the power to transform into a [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|super powered fursona]]. He hit the [[wigwam]], and eventually came up with an "[[Anchuent Prophecy|ancient Native American prophecy]]" as his explanation. This gave him the opportunity to talk about his alleged cultural background in the comic. Being that he knew nothing about real Cherokee (and even less about his ancestor specifically) he instead decided to just make up his own version of the Cherokee and his ancestor, and assumed it was true to life.


This lead to the creation of the bizarre "[[Cherokian Clan]]" that featured in the ''Sonichu'' comic, and since Chris was making up the entire thing, he also decided to make his fictional ancient ancestor the [[Chris and his Ego|leader of the entire Cherokee nation]] whilst doing so.  
This lead to the creation of the bizarre "[[Cherokian Clan]]" featured in the ''Sonichu'' comic. Since Chris was making up the whole thing, he also declared his fictional ancestor to be the [[Chris and his ego|leader of the entire Cherokee nation]].  


== Character ==
== Character ==
It is explained that the Cherokee and [[Wasabi Clan|Wasabi]] clans were at war in the ancient past over both the [[Cherokian Crown]] and the [[Queen of the Cherokian Clan]], the Ancestor's wife. However, the two clans would later ally to fight off [[Count Graduon]], a new evil who first came to power around that time. They sealed him away, but their power of prophecy told them that he would come back one day. They then set up safeguards, such as the transformation powers, so that the three of them (the Leader, the Queen and the [[Wasabi Rival]]) could eventually destroy him in present day [[CWCville]]. The Ancestor was apparently the leader of the Cherokian Clan at this time. Hundreds of years later, he would be reincarnated as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian Weston Chandler]]. His present day self would go on to fulfill the prophecy with the other two, guided by an avatar of his ancient alter ego.
It is explained that the Cherokee and [[Wasabi Clan|Wasabi]] clans were at war in the ancient past over both the [[Cherokian Crown]] and the [[Queen of the Cherokian Clan]], the Ancestor's wife. However, the two clans would later ally to fight off [[Count Graduon]], a new evil who first came to power around that time. They sealed him away, but their power of prophecy told them that he would come back one day. They then set up safeguards, such as the transformation powers, so that the three of them (the Leader, the Queen and the [[Wasabi Rival]]) could eventually destroy him in present day [[CWCville]]. Hundreds of years later, the king of the Cherokee Clan would be reincarnated as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian Weston Chandler]]. His present day self would go on to fulfill the prophecy with his queen and rival, guided by an avatar of his ancient alter ego.


The character is never given a name, and so Chris only ever refers to him as "Ancestor".
The character is never given a name, and so Chris only ever refers to him as "Ancestor".
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== Role in the comics ==
== Role in the comics ==
=== [[Sonichu 2#Episode 7: Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"|Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"]] ===
=== [[Sonichu 2#Episode 7: Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"|Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"]] ===
The Ancient leader appeared only very briefly in Episode 7 of ''Sonichu #2''. His only purpose here is to explain to Chris that he is his reincarnation, tell him the evil [[Count Graduon]] is coming back, and asking if he's a bad enough dude to stop him. Chris gets his powers then and there and pisses off to go train with Sonichu.
The Ancient leader appeared only very briefly in Episode 7 of ''Sonichu #2''. His only purpose here is to explain to Chris that he is his reincarnation, tell him the evil [[Count Graduon]] is coming back, and ask if he's a bad enough dude to stop him. Chris gets his powers then and there and pisses off to go train with Sonichu.


=== [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 5: Christian Chandler in "McAttack Part 2"|Christian Chandler in "McAttack Part 2"]] ===
=== [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 5: Christian Chandler in "McAttack Part 2"|Christian Chandler in "McAttack Part 2"]] ===
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=== [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 8: Christian Chandler in "Off-Target Part 2"|Christian Chandler in "Off-Target Part 2"]] ===
=== [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 8: Christian Chandler in "Off-Target Part 2"|Christian Chandler in "Off-Target Part 2"]] ===
The Ancestor appears one last time in the series after that, in the final Sub-Episode of ''Sonichu #4''. When Chris is about for fight [[Mary Lee Walsh]] at the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]], the ancestor appears in his head to encourage him along, telling him to focus and remember all the friends he made during his [[Love Quest]] to help encourage him, as if he were a supporting character from a [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|children's anime]] or [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Saturday morning cartoon]] shouting words of support for the hero.  
The Ancestor appears one last time in the series after that, in the final Sub-Episode of ''Sonichu #4''. When Chris is about to fight [[Mary Lee Walsh]] at the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]], the Ancestor appears in his head to encourage him, telling him to focus and remember all the friends he made during his [[Love Quest]], as if he were a supporting character from a [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|children's anime]] or [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Saturday morning cartoon]].  


This tactic doesn't work, though, not due to any realization that Chris's Love Quest has accomplished nothing but to cause trouble unnecessarily though, but rather because Chris was actually so [[stressed|badly beaten]] by that point that [[Honest|he couldn't even remember a single friend]] he'd made on the Love Quest so far. No, not even his [[Myspace]] friends. The Ancestor then suggests instead that he call upon the ancestral spirits to give him a morality boost to help him out, and surprisingly, this DOES work. Apparently ancient Native American spirits are interchangeable with Care Bears. Chris then transforms, beats up the villains, and then the Ancestor disappears into the aethers once more, never to be seen or talked about ever again.
This tactic fails not due to the realization that Chris's Love Quest has accomplished nothing, but rather because Chris was actually so [[stressed|badly beaten]] by that point that [[Honest|he couldn't even remember a single friend]] he'd made on the Love Quest so far. No, not even his [[Myspace]] friends. The Ancestor then suggests that he call upon the ancestral spirits for a morality boost, and surprisingly, this DOES work. Apparently ancient Native American spirits are interchangeable with [[Care Bears]]. Chris then transforms, beats up an old woman, and the Ancestor disappears into the aether once more, never to be mentioned again.


Given his frequent appearances in the Sub-Episodes, it is reasonable to assume that the ancestor was once meant to be a recurring character, but for some reason or another, Chris abandoned the concept after he abandoned Sub-Episodes.
Given his frequent appearances in Sub-Episodes, it is reasonable to assume that the Ancestor was once meant to be a recurring character, but for one reason or another (perhaps under pressure from his mother), Chris abandoned the concept after he abandoned Sub-Episodes.


==Appearance==
==Appearance==
According to the [[Anchuent Prophecy]], Christian is in fact the reincarnation of this figure, which apparently explains the many dreams and visions in which the ancestor reveals new anchuent powers for Christian to use to fight [[Jerkops|mall security]]. But being the [[Honor roll|genius]] he is, Chris apparently misunderstood the whole reincarnation idea, thus depicting the leader as a white, blue-eyed, brown-haired, pudgy, child-like man. You know, just like Chris himself. Either Chris is just totally ignorant about Native Americans, or he is a racist who prefers envisioning all positive characters as having the same appearance as himself. Or maybe both. Judging by the size of his head, he appears to be encephalitic.
According to the [[Anchuent Prophecy]], Christian is in fact the reincarnation of this figure, which apparently explains the many dreams and visions in which the ancestor reveals new anchuent powers for Christian to use to fight [[Jerkops|mall security]]. As Chris [[Chris and race|didn't care enough]] to research the culture he is allegedly descended from, the ancestor looks absolutely nothing like a genuine Cherokee, being a white child-like man. Judging by the size of his head, he appears to be encephalitic.  


Befitting his status as a Native American chieftain, he is always depicted wearing a gold and purple, vaguely Roman-looking breastplate, yellow sandals and the coveted [[Cherokian crown]]. The Cherokian crown looks a little like [[Wikipedia:Hermes|Hermes]] or [[Wikipedia:Mercury (mythology)|Mercury]]'s helmet. All this supports the theory that Chris just knows jack shit about actual Cherokees and their culture.
Befitting his status as a Native American chieftain, he is always depicted wearing a gold and purple, vaguely Greco-Roman-looking breastplate (with [[Homos|sculpted abs]]) and the coveted [[Cherokian crown]], items of metallurgy that the Cherokee did not possess. All this supports the theory that Chris just knows jack shit about actual Cherokees and their culture.


== Chris? ==
== Chris and reincarnation ==
Although Chris is said to be the reincarnation of the Ancient leader,<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_5</ref> and several references are made to "previous lives",<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_11</ref> several factors seem to contradict the idea. For one thing, none of the supposed reincarnations of the ancient Native Americans seem to have any memory of their previous lives after the prophecy is fulfilled, and none of them really seem to think of their ancient alter egos as being iterations of themselves. Sarah refers to the Ancient leader when told about him by the Queen of the Cherokian Clan as "your husband",<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_13</ref> even though he should technically be her husband too if she were a reincarnation in the true sense of the word. Also note that Chris and friends seem to hold actual conversations with the ancient Native Americans, even though they were supposed to be long dead. Unless some kind of [[Sonichu 7|time travel]] bullshit is involved, it also contradicts the reincarnation story if the characters are seen to be talking to what appear to be the spirits of people they are the reincarnations of.
Although Chris is said to be the reincarnation of the Ancient leader,<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_5</ref> and several references are made to "previous lives",<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_11</ref> several factors seem to contradict the idea. For one thing, none of the supposed reincarnations of the ancient Native Americans seem to have any memory of their previous lives after the prophecy is fulfilled, and none of them really seem to see their ancient alter egos as iterations of themselves. Sarah refers to the Ancient leader when told about him by the Queen of the Cherokian Clan as "your husband",<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_13</ref> even though he should technically be her husband too if she were a reincarnation. Also note that Chris and friends seem to hold actual conversations with the ancient Native Americans, even though they were supposed to be long dead.  


tl;dr: Chris probably doesn't know what "reincarnation" means.
tl;dr: Chris probably doesn't know what "reincarnation" means.

Latest revision as of 04:03, 21 August 2024

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Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan
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Gender Male
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Species Human

According to Chris, he has at least one Cherokee ancestor, about whom he assuredly knows nothing.[1] When Chris was making the early issues of the Sonichu comic, he decided to establish a backstory for why he had the power to transform into a super powered fursona. He hit the wigwam, and eventually came up with an "ancient Native American prophecy" as his explanation. This gave him the opportunity to talk about his alleged cultural background in the comic. Being that he knew nothing about real Cherokee (and even less about his ancestor specifically) he instead decided to just make up his own version of the Cherokee and his ancestor, and assumed it was true to life.

This lead to the creation of the bizarre "Cherokian Clan" featured in the Sonichu comic. Since Chris was making up the whole thing, he also declared his fictional ancestor to be the leader of the entire Cherokee nation.

Character

It is explained that the Cherokee and Wasabi clans were at war in the ancient past over both the Cherokian Crown and the Queen of the Cherokian Clan, the Ancestor's wife. However, the two clans would later ally to fight off Count Graduon, a new evil who first came to power around that time. They sealed him away, but their power of prophecy told them that he would come back one day. They then set up safeguards, such as the transformation powers, so that the three of them (the Leader, the Queen and the Wasabi Rival) could eventually destroy him in present day CWCville. Hundreds of years later, the king of the Cherokee Clan would be reincarnated as Christian Weston Chandler. His present day self would go on to fulfill the prophecy with his queen and rival, guided by an avatar of his ancient alter ego.

The character is never given a name, and so Chris only ever refers to him as "Ancestor".

Role in the comics

Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"

The Ancient leader appeared only very briefly in Episode 7 of Sonichu #2. His only purpose here is to explain to Chris that he is his reincarnation, tell him the evil Count Graduon is coming back, and ask if he's a bad enough dude to stop him. Chris gets his powers then and there and pisses off to go train with Sonichu.

Christian Chandler in "McAttack Part 2"

The Ancestor appears once again in Sonichu #4, acting as the resident Deus Ex Machina in Sub-Episode 5 of that issue. He randomly pops into Chris's head as he's getting the shit kicked out of him by W-M-Manajerk, and tells Chris that he can use the Heart Torch of Fail to bring his imaginary twin sister, Crystal Weston Chandler into being. Chris does so, and the ancestor dissappears again.

Christian Chandler in "Off-Target Part 2"

The Ancestor appears one last time in the series after that, in the final Sub-Episode of Sonichu #4. When Chris is about to fight Mary Lee Walsh at the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens, the Ancestor appears in his head to encourage him, telling him to focus and remember all the friends he made during his Love Quest, as if he were a supporting character from a children's anime or Saturday morning cartoon.

This tactic fails not due to the realization that Chris's Love Quest has accomplished nothing, but rather because Chris was actually so badly beaten by that point that he couldn't even remember a single friend he'd made on the Love Quest so far. No, not even his Myspace friends. The Ancestor then suggests that he call upon the ancestral spirits for a morality boost, and surprisingly, this DOES work. Apparently ancient Native American spirits are interchangeable with Care Bears. Chris then transforms, beats up an old woman, and the Ancestor disappears into the aether once more, never to be mentioned again.

Given his frequent appearances in Sub-Episodes, it is reasonable to assume that the Ancestor was once meant to be a recurring character, but for one reason or another (perhaps under pressure from his mother), Chris abandoned the concept after he abandoned Sub-Episodes.

Appearance

According to the Anchuent Prophecy, Christian is in fact the reincarnation of this figure, which apparently explains the many dreams and visions in which the ancestor reveals new anchuent powers for Christian to use to fight mall security. As Chris didn't care enough to research the culture he is allegedly descended from, the ancestor looks absolutely nothing like a genuine Cherokee, being a white child-like man. Judging by the size of his head, he appears to be encephalitic.

Befitting his status as a Native American chieftain, he is always depicted wearing a gold and purple, vaguely Greco-Roman-looking breastplate (with sculpted abs) and the coveted Cherokian crown, items of metallurgy that the Cherokee did not possess. All this supports the theory that Chris just knows jack shit about actual Cherokees and their culture.

Chris and reincarnation

Although Chris is said to be the reincarnation of the Ancient leader,[2] and several references are made to "previous lives",[3] several factors seem to contradict the idea. For one thing, none of the supposed reincarnations of the ancient Native Americans seem to have any memory of their previous lives after the prophecy is fulfilled, and none of them really seem to see their ancient alter egos as iterations of themselves. Sarah refers to the Ancient leader when told about him by the Queen of the Cherokian Clan as "your husband",[4] even though he should technically be her husband too if she were a reincarnation. Also note that Chris and friends seem to hold actual conversations with the ancient Native Americans, even though they were supposed to be long dead.

tl;dr: Chris probably doesn't know what "reincarnation" means.

References

See also