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{{quote|As a matter of fact, among my, uh, mother's side in the uh, ancestral traits *[[Stress sigh|sighs]]* we have uh, we have been traced down to Daniel Weston, who was on the main--''Mayflower'' voyage.|[[Captain's Log]], [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement|Stardate November 7th, 2007]]}}
{{quote|As a matter of fact, among my, uh, mother's side in the uh, ancestral traits *[[Stress sigh|sighs]]* we have uh, we have been traced down to Daniel Weston, who was on the main--''Mayflower'' voyage.|[[Captain's Log]], [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement|Stardate November 7th, 2007]]}}


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'''Daniel Weston''' is one of the people who Chris claims to be one of his illustrious ancestors, through whom he is descended from [[Anne Boleyn]],<ref name="publicannouncement" /> [[List of Chris's lies|whose only daughter died childless]]. According to Chris, Daniel Weston's ancestor was {{w|Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland}}, who was in turn related to Anne Boleyn.<ref>[[Catie Date Conversation Transcript#Chris's Heritage]]</ref>
'''Daniel Weston''' is one of the people who Chris claims to be one of his illustrious ancestors, through whom he is descended from [[Anne Boleyn]],<ref name="publicannouncement" /> [[List of Chris's lies|whose only daughter died childless]]. According to Chris, Daniel Weston's ancestor was {{w|Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland}}, who was in turn related to Anne Boleyn.<ref>[[Catie Date Conversation Transcript#Chris's Heritage]]</ref>
Judging by Barb's comments in the [[Rental House Tour]], she seems to believe that the English nobility and English royalty are identical. She also seems to believe that whenever a title is created in the English nobility, ''everybody'' who bears that surname becomes a noble (or "royal").


In 2007, Chris claimed that Daniel Weston was aboard the ''{{w|Mayflower}}'', the ship that carried the {{w|Pilgrims (Plymouth Colony)|Pilgrim Fathers}} to [[United States of America|America]] in [[Pre-1980#Pre-1900|1620]];<ref name="publicannouncement">[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref> however, according to all known passenger lists of the ''Mayflower'', there was never a man named Weston aboard.<ref>[http://genforum.genealogy.com/weston/messages/54.html Genealogy Forum]</ref>  
In 2007, Chris claimed that Daniel Weston was aboard the ''{{w|Mayflower}}'', the ship that carried the {{w|Pilgrims (Plymouth Colony)|Pilgrim Fathers}} to [[United States of America|America]] in [[Pre-1980#Pre-1900|1620]];<ref name="publicannouncement">[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref> however, according to all known passenger lists of the ''Mayflower'', there was never a man named Weston aboard.<ref>[http://genforum.genealogy.com/weston/messages/54.html Genealogy Forum]</ref>  
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Chris later revised his theory, saying that Daniel Weston was actually not on the ''Mayflower'', although "he made his voyage later on".<ref>[[Mailbag 27#A family history of failure]]</ref> This was essentially the story he related to [[Catherine]] in 2014, although he could provide no clear details. This highly nebulous revision is no more persuasive than the original version, and neither version of the story accounts for Chris being descended from Anne Boleyn, who had no descendants whatsoever.
Chris later revised his theory, saying that Daniel Weston was actually not on the ''Mayflower'', although "he made his voyage later on".<ref>[[Mailbag 27#A family history of failure]]</ref> This was essentially the story he related to [[Catherine]] in 2014, although he could provide no clear details. This highly nebulous revision is no more persuasive than the original version, and neither version of the story accounts for Chris being descended from Anne Boleyn, who had no descendants whatsoever.


These flatly impossible notions were probably spoonfed to Chris by his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] to make him feel special. Indeed, he credits her with doing the historical research. In reality, Chris's earliest known maternal ancestor was a [[Ruckersville, VA|hick]] named William Wynn, who had a grandson named Robert (Barb's grandfather) claimed to be a lecherous [[Chris and drugs#Alcohol|alcoholic]].<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20130211063735/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d118.html</ref>
These flatly impossible notions were probably spoonfed to Chris by his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] to make him feel special. Indeed, he credits her with doing the historical research. Judging by [[Barb]]'s comments in the [[Rental House Tour]], she seems to believe that the British nobility and the royal family are identical. She also seems to believe that whenever a title is created in the English nobility, ''everybody'' who bears that surname becomes a noble (or "royal").
 
According to the comprehensive family tree, Chris ''does'' indeed have some connection to royals and early settlers, albeit on his father's side - his ancestor John Chandler, a pre-''Mayflower'' settler of Virginia whose descendents later ended up in Alabama, was married to Elizabeth Bassano, a relative of the court musicians of King Henry VIII.<ref>https://imgur.com/gallery/0BgQLyH</ref>
 
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==Candidates for the historical Daniel Weston==
==Candidates for the historical Daniel Weston==
===Thomas Weston===
One theory holds that Chris actually meant to say {{w|Thomas Weston (merchant adventurer)|Thomas Weston}} (1584–c. 1647), an English merchant who funded the ''Mayflower''. This is dubious, as Thomas's only child, Elizabeth, married Roger Conant and adopted his surname. Her children, Samuel and John, bore the "Conant" surname.<ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Weston-7598</ref> Although either Samuel or John ''could'' be an ancestor of Barbara, they would not be the origin of the "Weston" surname.


===Thomas Weston===
===Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland===
One theory holds that Chris actually meant to say {{w|Thomas Weston (merchant adventurer)|Thomas Weston}} (1584-c.1647), an English merchant who funded the ''Mayflower''. This is dubious, as Thomas's only child, Elizabeth, married Roger Conant and adopted his surname. Her children, Samuel and John, bore the "Conant" surname.<ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Weston-7598</ref> Although either Samuel or John ''could'' be an ancestor of Barbara, they would not be the origin of the "Weston" surname.
Daniel Weston may have been a descendent of {{w|Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland}} (1 March 1577 – 13 March 1634/1635), who was Chancellor of the Exchequer and later Lord Treasurer of England under {{w|James I of England|James I}} and {{w|Charles I of England|Charles I}}. He was created 1st Baron Weston in 1628 and 1st Earl of Portland in 1633. He is most likely the Richard Weston mentioned in the [[Rental House Tour]] and [[Date with Catherine]]. Chris claims that Richard "preceeded" Daniel but is not sure what their exact relationship was.
 
===Sir Richard Weston (canal builder)===
A less likely possibility is that Daniel Weston was a descendent of {{w|Richard Weston (canal builder)|Sir Richard Weston}} (1591–1652), an English canal builder and agricultural improver. Richard broadly lived around the time of the ''Mayflower'', and he was a descendant of {{w|Sir Francis Weston}}, who was (dubiously) accused of adultery with [[Anne Boleyn]]. Although he was not a member of the nobility, he was knighted in 1622. Barb may have confused this Richard Weston with the more illustrious one mentioned above.


===Richard Weston===
==The reality==
This theory identifies Daniel Weston with {{w|Richard Weston (canal builder)|Richard Weston}} (1591–1652), an English canal builder and agricultural improver, or one of his possible descendants. Richard broadly lived around the time of the ''Mayflower'', and he was a descendant of {{w|Sir Francis Weston}}, who was (dubiously) accused of adultery with [[Anne Boleyn]].
Christorians have traced Barb's paternal ancestry back to the English-born immigrant [[Francis Weston]] (Feb 1793 - 19 March 1836), who arrived in America well after the Revolution and settled in [[Ohio]]. It is possible that Francis was a descendent of some earlier illustrious ancestor named Daniel, but there is no evidence to suggest this.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/118642485/francis-weston</ref>


===Francis Weston===
Chris ''does'', however, indeed have some connection to royals and early settlers, albeit on his father's side - his ancestor John Chandler, a pre-''Mayflower'' settler of Virginia whose descendents later ended up in Alabama, was married to Elizabeth Bassano, a relative of the court musicians of King Henry VIII.<ref>https://imgur.com/gallery/0BgQLyH</ref>
Another theory identifies Daniel Weston with [[Francis Weston]] (Feb 1793 - 19 March 1836), who has been documented to be an actual maternal ancestor of Chris (and has no Wikipedia page). Like our elusive Daniel, he immigrated from England to North America, and bore the "Weston" surname, which he would pass on to Barbara, and, by extension, give [[Chris|our hero]] his middle name. However, he arrived in the United States 2 centuries after the ''Mayflower'', and there's nothing to suggest he was descended from Anne Boleyn.<ref>findagrave.com/memorial/118642485/francis-weston</ref>


==References==
==References==

Revision as of 19:45, 25 February 2023

As a matter of fact, among my, uh, mother's side in the uh, ancestral traits *sighs* we have uh, we have been traced down to Daniel Weston, who was on the main--Mayflower voyage.
Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007
Portrait of Daniel Weston, c. 1623. Note the blank stare... Doesn't it remind you of a certain someone?

Daniel Weston is one of the people who Chris claims to be one of his illustrious ancestors, through whom he is descended from Anne Boleyn,[1] whose only daughter died childless. According to Chris, Daniel Weston's ancestor was Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland, who was in turn related to Anne Boleyn.[2]

In 2007, Chris claimed that Daniel Weston was aboard the Mayflower, the ship that carried the Pilgrim Fathers to America in 1620;[1] however, according to all known passenger lists of the Mayflower, there was never a man named Weston aboard.[3]

Chris later revised his theory, saying that Daniel Weston was actually not on the Mayflower, although "he made his voyage later on".[4] This was essentially the story he related to Catherine in 2014, although he could provide no clear details. This highly nebulous revision is no more persuasive than the original version, and neither version of the story accounts for Chris being descended from Anne Boleyn, who had no descendants whatsoever.

These flatly impossible notions were probably spoonfed to Chris by his mother to make him feel special. Indeed, he credits her with doing the historical research. Judging by Barb's comments in the Rental House Tour, she seems to believe that the British nobility and the royal family are identical. She also seems to believe that whenever a title is created in the English nobility, everybody who bears that surname becomes a noble (or "royal").

Candidates for the historical Daniel Weston

Thomas Weston

One theory holds that Chris actually meant to say Thomas Weston (1584–c. 1647), an English merchant who funded the Mayflower. This is dubious, as Thomas's only child, Elizabeth, married Roger Conant and adopted his surname. Her children, Samuel and John, bore the "Conant" surname.[5] Although either Samuel or John could be an ancestor of Barbara, they would not be the origin of the "Weston" surname.

Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland

Daniel Weston may have been a descendent of Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland (1 March 1577 – 13 March 1634/1635), who was Chancellor of the Exchequer and later Lord Treasurer of England under James I and Charles I. He was created 1st Baron Weston in 1628 and 1st Earl of Portland in 1633. He is most likely the Richard Weston mentioned in the Rental House Tour and Date with Catherine. Chris claims that Richard "preceeded" Daniel but is not sure what their exact relationship was.

Sir Richard Weston (canal builder)

A less likely possibility is that Daniel Weston was a descendent of Sir Richard Weston (1591–1652), an English canal builder and agricultural improver. Richard broadly lived around the time of the Mayflower, and he was a descendant of Sir Francis Weston, who was (dubiously) accused of adultery with Anne Boleyn. Although he was not a member of the nobility, he was knighted in 1622. Barb may have confused this Richard Weston with the more illustrious one mentioned above.

The reality

Christorians have traced Barb's paternal ancestry back to the English-born immigrant Francis Weston (Feb 1793 - 19 March 1836), who arrived in America well after the Revolution and settled in Ohio. It is possible that Francis was a descendent of some earlier illustrious ancestor named Daniel, but there is no evidence to suggest this.[6]

Chris does, however, indeed have some connection to royals and early settlers, albeit on his father's side - his ancestor John Chandler, a pre-Mayflower settler of Virginia whose descendents later ended up in Alabama, was married to Elizabeth Bassano, a relative of the court musicians of King Henry VIII.[7]

References

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