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With the revelation that the Idea Guys were still actively manipulating Chris in early 2018, a new effort to systematically dismantle their and other trolling operations began. Now known as the "Guard Dogs", this group sought to replace the old guard that had once existed before, and hopefully put an end to current-day weening. This group has since been credited with the outing of both the Idea Guys and the Teen Troon Squad. Their efforts have been met with mixed reception. While most on Kiwi Farms praise their rescue of Chris from the Idea Guys' grasps, others criticize the group for being white knights.

Prior to the existence of the guard dogs, efforts to monitor Chris' accounts for trolls have existed in the past. However, none were as straightforward to Chris or as elaborate as those of the guard dogs.



Main article: Null

Joshua Moon, also known as Null, is the current owner of Kiwi Farms. He became involved mid-way through their investigation of the Idea Guys' Discord, and was largely behind the push for the Idea Guys to face legal repercussions. He has since removed himself from these efforts, however, due to losing sympathy for Chris.


Main article: The Man in the Pickle Suit

Marvin, also known as "The Jew in the Pickle Suit", is a former troll of Chris' who has since stayed to the bylines. Because of his status as an active Christorical figure, however, he's often contacted for advice in both trolling and counter-trolling efforts.

The Captain

The Captain, unlike the other two involved, had no past history with Chris; stating that he only "fell into the whole thing by a matter of association".[1] Little is known about him past this.

Rescue from the Idea Guys

In late April 2018, Anna McLerran contacted The Captain stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.[2] She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation: Kingsnake" began.

Operation Kingsnake


Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his delusional beliefs. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret Discord chat with the Idea Guys on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of Marvin, The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.[3] In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.


A screenshot by The Captain revealing the profiles of all the Idea Guys.

When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ Discord account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of Wise and Boyd using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.[4] During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included My Little Pony and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.[2]

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.[2]


Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd, which were wisely saved.
Main article: Idea Guys#Extortion
I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.
Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.[3]

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ Discord, Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. For once, Chris's tendency to hold onto things turned out to be a blessing in the form of vital evidence; He also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of a mentally handicapped individual.[3]

E-mail monitoring

Null angrily insulting a ween with racial epithets.
The 'dull lull' himself.

After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails,[5][6] in some cases acting particularly aggressively towards weens attempting to get in on the action.

This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original My Little Pony character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

Publication of leaked content

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the Idea Guys' discord server.

On 11 July 2018, Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.[3]

On 13 July 2018, Null released Cryzel Torture, a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 July 2018, Null posted The Bad Beginning, the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

End of Null's involvement

Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
Stardate 26 November 2018
Saga Guard DogsGuard Dogs Guard Dogs
Other AudioAudio Audio

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the "guard dog" saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many others before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the Dimensional Merge, and as a result, Null lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from November 2018, he stated that he no longer wanted any part of the operation, finding the enabling tiresome. He also reveals that at one point, he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to his home when Barbara died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

TooManyGames fallout

Following the incidents at TooManyGames, in which Chris was thrown out of the con for being too handsy with other attendees, Null and several other members of the Guard Dogs began investigating Justin Silverman's account of the situation, intending to find out if Justin had overreacted towards Chris's behaviour. Ultimately, this investigation petered out with no real progress having been made, save for the fact that the Guard Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at any conventions he visited from then on.

The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves

Main article: Teen Troon Squad#The reveal

On 25 December 2018, a person posing as Magi-Chan posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

See also


Trolls of the Patriots

The Miscreants: Arjen Van Dierten | Bryan Bash | Clyde Cash | Jack Thaddeus | Jason Kendrick Howell | Joshua Martinez | Liquid Chris | Lordsillynipples | Man in the Pickle Suit | Sarah May | Vivian Gee

The Asperpedia Four: Alec Benson Leary | Evan Christopher George | Mao Ling | Sean August Watley

Famous people: BILLY MAYS | Jay Z | Jimmy Hill | Reggie Fils-Aimé | Shigeru Miyamoto | Takashi Tezuka

Traitors: Arthur Spatchcock | Bryanfrogboy | CWCProtectSquad | Idea Guys | Jacob Sockness | Jeff/Francine | MKRNightVee | Sarah and Steve | Teen Troon Squad

Others: Ben Saint | Johan | LadyOfTheCosmo | Surfshack Tito | Thorg

See Also: Chris and manipulation

List of males Chris doesn't hate, according to Chris

I. Chris II. Bob Chandler III. Santa Clause IV. Jesus V. God

VI. The President of the United States:
Donald Trump (as of 2017)

VII. All the World Leaders:
Kim Jong UnMahmoud AhmadinejadManuel Noriega

VIII. ALL male acquaintances and friends, past and present:
Cole SmitheyDr. David Alan ChandlerJonathan CareyUncle Raymond
Joshua MartinezJoseph HerringWes IseliLucasMimmsRobert Simmons V (as of 2009)

List of males Chris doesn't hate, corrected for accuracy

I. Chris II. Bob Chandler III. Santa Clause IV. Jesus V. God VI. The Bear

VII. The former Presidents of the United States:
George W. BushBarack Obama

VIII. Select male acquaintances and friends, past and present:
Robert Simmons VKenneth Erwin EnglehardtWilliam Elliott Waterman

IX. Celebrities:
Jack BlackJerry SeinfeldRed SkeltonR.L. StineSeth MacFarlaneVarious comedians

X. Robots:
MegatronOptimus Prime

XI. Hedgehogs:
Sonic the HedgehogBionic the Hedgehog

XII. Electric Hedgehog Pokémon:
Sonichu (Ultra SonichuMetonic)
Wild SonichuPunchy SonichuMagi-ChanBlakeDJ JamstaBlazebob SonichuMitch SonichuDarkbind Sonichu

XIII. Pornstars:
Bailey Jay

List of males Chris does hate


Christian Weston Chandler's people

Chris himself:

Bill Riley | Carlos Chantor | Chloe | Junior Jenkins | Night Star | Stephanie Bustcakes | TwiSparLicious


At home: Bob Chandler | Barbara Chandler | Patti Chandler | The Chandler Cats | Clover and Snoopy

Others: Anne Boleyn | Aunt Corrina | Cole Smithey | Daniel Weston | Minor Family Members

Future: Crystal Weston Chandler | Lovely Weather | Reginald Chandler


Sweethearts: Blanca Weiss | Julie | Catherine | Cryzel and Magi-Chan Ivy | Kacey | Jackie | PandaHalo

Minor sweethearts: Emily | Faeryn | Hanna | Jessica Quinn | Lori Lopez | Sarah Jackson | Vanessa Hudgens

Sweethearts-to-be: DoopieDoOver | Megan Schroeder | The Wallflower

Gal-pals: Anna McLerran | Clare Porter | Kellie Andes | Kim Wilson | Laura Dorazio | Sarah Nicole Hammer | Tiffany Gowen

Guard Dogs: Null | The Captain | Marvin

Others: Copitz | DRWolf | Female fanbase | Joey Vance | Leftovermedia | MLP voice actresses | Pokémon League friends | ProjectSNT | Rocky Shoemaker | Virginia Jeanine Sanford | Xleepy

The Unholy Tetrad:

White knights: Kenneth Erwin Englehardt | Robert Simmons V | William Elliott Waterman

A-logs: A-Log

Enablers: Ben Saint | Bryanfrogboy | CWCProtectSquad | Idea Guys | Jacob Sockness | Teen Troon Squad | Other Enablers

Weens: Michael Hirtes


The Miscreants: Arjen Van Dierten | The Asperpedia Four (Alec Benson Leary, Evan Christopher George, Mao Ling, and Sean August Watley)| Bryan Bash | Clyde Cash | Jack Thaddeus | Jason Kendrick Howell | Joshua Martinez | Liquid Chris | Lordsillynipples | Man in the Pickle Suit | Sarah May | Surfshack Tito | Vivian Gee

Famous people: BILLY MAYS | Jay Z | Jimmy Hill | Reggie Fils-Aimé | Shigeru Miyamoto | Takashi Tezuka

Others: Arthur Spatchcock | Jeff Ouzuo | Johan | LadyOfTheCosmo | Sam and Ellen | Surfshack Tito | Thorg

Other enemies:

PVCC: Kene Meniru | Mary Lee Walsh

Jerkops: Bagget | Jerkhief

Manajerks: B-Manajerk | Kirby | "Lady" Manajerk | Michael Snyder | ScotPalazzo | Turdijerk | W-M-Manajerk | Yellow-Shirted Foe

The GAMe PLACe: Daniel Mimms | Lucas

JERKS: Joseph Herring | Wes Iseli

Others: Abusive babysitter | Bruce Johnson | Kathleen | executives | Pmurt | Rob Bell | Sonic Boom producers


Famous people: Pmurt | Barack Obama | George W. Bush | John Tesh | PewDiePie | Red Skelton | R.L. Stine

Others: Adam Stackhouse | Caitlin | DStecks | Mia Hamm | Ryan Cash

Inanimate objects/Fictional Characters: Cryzel | Kimmi | Meg Griffin | Naru | Officer Nasty