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Around early [[November 2017]], an anonymous troll acting as Chris's "'''idea guy'''" (also known as the "'''[[4-cent_garbage.com|/pol/]]troll'''") decided to coerce Chris, through unknown means, into adding politically incorrect themes and false rumors into his comics, to show how gullible he is and how little he understands about the world. Chris's interactions with this idea guy started when he/she informed Chris that the characters from Hyperdimension Neptunia were invading CWCville.
Around early [[November 2017]], an anonymous troll acting as Chris's "'''idea guy'''" (also known as the "'''[[4-cent_garbage.com|/pol/]]troll'''") decided to coerce Chris, through unknown means, into adding politically incorrect themes and false rumors into his comics, to show how gullible he is and how little he understands about the world. Chris's interactions with this Idea Guy started when he/she informed Chris that the characters from Hyperdimension Neptunia were invading CWCville.


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==Identity==


Currently, the identity of the idea guy is unknown.-->
The identity of the Idea Guy remains unknown. The name is somewhat misleading, as it is not certain that the Idea Guy is either [[JERKS|male]] or a singular individual. Despite this, this name is the most frequently used when discussing related content, with "/pol/troll" a distant second, instead associating the troll's political themes to those popular on 4chan's /pol/ board.


==The ideas==
Early in the Idea Guy saga, [[Jessica Quinn]] was considered a suspect as one of the few people who Chris trusts despite their trolling him, but this hypothesis soon fell out of favor. So far, no other identity has been proposed; [[Kiwi Farms|Chris's followers]] can't figure it out, and Chris has kept silent.
Below is a summary of ideas that are suspected to be the work of the Idea Guy.
 
===Relationship with Chris===
 
How the Idea Guy knows and influences Chris is unknown. Chris himself has never directly indicated that someone else is giving him ideas at all, though the many references that he [[Honor roll|does not understand]] are a clear sign of external influence. There are also signs that Chris is being coerced or duped into using the Idea Guy's ideas, as he appears uncomfortable in Idea Guy-inspired videos and is often alarmed by the troll's "revelations" about Chris's fictional world.
 
==Ideas==
Below is a summary of ideas in Chris's work attributed to the Idea Guy.


===[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]===
===[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]===
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===Nazi [[CWCville]]===
===Nazi [[CWCville]]===
The next day, Chris described in detail how Silvana had been saved in a military conflict titled [[Operation BARBarossa]], thinking the name was meant to be a clever nod towards [[Barb|his mother]]. The post was littered with references to World War II, particularly on actions by Nazi Germany, such as "prison camps full of large ovens" built on CWCville soil.
A day after the "Freestyle Dance", Chris described in detail how Silvana had been saved in a military conflict titled [[Operation BARBarossa]], thinking the name was meant to be a clever nod towards [[Barb|his mother]]. The post was littered with references to World War II, particularly on actions by Nazi Germany, such as "prison camps full of large ovens" built on CWCville soil.


Days later, Chris expanded on the new CWCville lore,<ref>[[November 2017 tweets#Updates on prison camps & reality]]</ref> giving the names of the prison camps. He also warned that CWCville's supply of U.S. money had been tainted with a virus and encouraged travelers to use "Cwcsmarts" instead - a concept borrowed from video game ''Tom Clancy's The Division''. Later, he mentioned that CWCville's ZIP code had been changed from its previous Mexican designation to one in Germany.
Days later, Chris expanded on the new CWCville lore,<ref>[[November 2017 tweets#Updates on prison camps & reality]]</ref> giving the names of the prison camps. He also warned that CWCville's supply of U.S. money had been tainted with a virus and encouraged travelers to use "Cwcsmarts" instead - a concept borrowed from video game ''Tom Clancy's The Division''. Later, he mentioned that CWCville's ZIP code had been changed from its previous Mexican designation to one in Germany.


Two weeks after the BARBarossa post, Chris took offense to speculation that he had fallen in with the Nazi crowd by insisting that the ideas had come from [[Count Graduon]].
Two weeks after the BARBarossa post, Chris had noticed speculation that he had fallen in with the Nazi crowd, and took offense to it, insisting that the ideas had come from [[Count Graduon]].
 
On 26 December, the Idea Guy informed Chris that citizens of CWCville who refused to accept [[SLGBTQ]] formed a homophobic klan and attacked the [[CWCville Shopping Center|CWCville Mall]], and rioted after the trial of [[Jamsta]] for molesting [[Punchy Sonichu]]. In the same message, he mentioned that the [[TrollBusters]] have been reformed into the "CWCstapo", an obvious (though lost on Chris) reference to the [[wikipedia:Gestapo|Gestapo]], the secret police of Nazi Germany, to "be better at stopping criminals".<ref name=jamsta>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#Jamsta molested Punchy]]</ref> The update contains the line, "A police state is a Country run by CRIMINALS," a quote from ''Fatherland'', a novel set in an alternate timeline in which Nazi Germany won World War II.


===CWCville elections===
===CWCville elections===
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Brendan Frasier won the Mayoral election<ref name=jamsta></ref>.
Brendan Frasier won the Mayoral election<ref name=jamsta></ref>.


===Changes to the ''Sonichu'' canon===
===Trans Rosechu===
[[Sonichu 15|''Sonichu'' #15]], a book Chris had wanted to use for a modern retelling of [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] prior to his known interactions with the Idea Guy, has significant alterations to the canon of the comics. Sonichu's new birthday is given as April 20th - AKA 4/20, or [[tobacky|marijuana]] reference "420 blaze it," and is a date which coincides with Adolf Hitler's birthday and the anniversary of the Columbine massacre.
A distraught Chris posted to Facebook and Twitter in early December, saying that [[Rosechu]] had informed him that she was actually transgender, and had a penis up until the events of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], at which point she underwent gender-reassignment surgery to become "Fully Woman" and enable her to give birth to her children.<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#Is Rosechu a transwoman?]]</ref>


A distraught Chris posted to Facebook and Twitter in early December, saying that [[Rosechu]] had informed him that she was actually transgender, and had a penis up until the events of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], at which point she underwent gender-reassignment surgery to become "Fully Woman" and enable her to give birth to her children.<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#Is Rosechu a transwoman?]]</ref>
Chris, agitated about the prospect of altering his canon in such a significant way, put up a poll to ask fans whether Rosechu should stay trans or be retconned back to his original concept of her being female from birth, pointing out that Rosechu being trans would hurt him and that the other option would hurt her. This reaction was seen by spectators as trans-shaming towards Rosechu, who he believes to be real in another dimension. In essence, Chris wants to be accepted as trans, added a [[Robee Sonichu|ten year old]] trans-female to his comic, and forced Rosechu and the gang to fully accept and love Chris for coming out - [[Chris and Hypocrisy|but refuses to believe Rosechu herself could possibly be trans.]]


Chris, agitated about the prospect of altering his canon in such a significant way, put up a poll to ask fans whether Rosechu should stay trans or be retconned back to his original concept of her being female from birth, pointing out that Rosechu being trans would hurt him and that the other option would hurt her. This reaction was seen by spectators as trans-shaming on Chris's part towards Rosechu, who he believes to be real in another dimension. Funny how Chris wants to be accepted as trans, and made a [[Robee Sonichu|ten year old]] trans-female in his comic, and forced Rosechu and the gang to fully accept and love Chris for coming out - [[Chris and Hypocrisy|but refuses to believe Rosechu could possibly be trans.]]
===Other changes to ''Sonichu'' canon===
[[Sonichu 15|''Sonichu'' #15]], a book Chris had wanted to use for a modern retelling of [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] prior to his known interactions with the Idea Guy, has significant alterations to the canon of the comics. Sonichu's new birthday is given as April 20th, or "4/20" - representing the slang term "[[Tobacky#Cannabis|420", but also coinciding with Adolf Hitler's birthday and the anniversary of the Columbine massacre.


Halfway through December, Chris exclaimed that [[Silvana]] had been lost in the past, but that there was a way to bring her back if his followers would "BELIEVE In Silvana Rosechu, and her Fullest Existence in Cwcville, Virginia, USA, Of All Timelines, Worlds and Dimensions!"<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#Silvana lost in the past]]</ref>.
Halfway through December, Chris exclaimed that [[Silvana]] had been lost in the past, but that there was a way to bring her back if his followers would "BELIEVE In Silvana Rosechu, and her Fullest Existence in Cwcville, Virginia, USA, Of All Timelines, Worlds and Dimensions!"<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#Silvana lost in the past]]</ref>.
On 26 December, the Idea Guy informed Chris that citizens of CWCville who refused to accept [[SLGBTQ]] formed a homophobic klan and attacked the [[CWCville Shopping Center|CWCville Mall]], and rioted after the trial of [[Jamsta]] for molesting [[Punchy Sonichu]]. In the same message, he mentioned that the [[TrollBusters]] have been reformed into the "CWCstapo", an obvious (though lost on Chris) reference to the [[wikipedia:Gestapo|Gestapo]], the secret police of Nazi Germany, to "be better at stopping criminals".<ref name=jamsta>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#Jamsta molested Punchy]]</ref> The update contains the line, "A police state is a Country run by CRIMINALS," a quote from ''Fatherland'', a novel set in an alternate timeline in which Nazi Germany won World War II.


==="Translated" dialogue===
==="Translated" dialogue===
In November and December, Chris drew what he believed to be artwork featuring [[Sailor Moon]] characters conversing with his comic counterpart in foreign languages.
In November and December, Chris drew what he believed to be artwork featuring [[Sailor Moon]] characters conversing with his comic counterpart in foreign languages. However, he was actually tricked into writing "I am carrying a penis", among other things, in Japanese.<ref>[[November 2017 Patreon posts#Chris writes about dicks, thinks it's his signature]]</ref>
 
However, he was actually tricked into writing "I am carrying a penis", among other things, in Japanese.<ref>[[November 2017 Patreon posts#Chris writes about dicks, thinks it's his signature]]</ref>


A month later, more "translated" art was posted<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#"Translated" Sailor Moon drawings]]</ref>, this one featuring German lines from video games ''Brothers in Arms'' and ''Wolfenstein: The New Order''. In addition, Chris tried to write the "I am carrying a penis" line again, although he accidentally wrote it with a typo.
A month later, more "translated" art was posted<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#"Translated" Sailor Moon drawings]]</ref>, this one featuring German lines from video games ''Brothers in Arms'' and ''Wolfenstein: The New Order''. In addition, Chris tried to write the "I am carrying a penis" line again, although he accidentally wrote it with a typo.


Chris's [[naive]]te was put on full display, especially with some of the German dialogue featuring terms such as "zebra," "evolution" and "universum" - words which look wildly out of place in what Chris thought was the translated-to-English dialogue, yet [[Slow in the mind|he was none the wiser]].
The German translations in particular put Chris's [[naive]]on full display, with some of the German dialogue featuring terms such as "Zebra," "Evolution" and "Universum", which are similar or identical to their English counterparts yet obviously absent in the supposed English translations, yet [[Slow in the mind|he was none the wiser]].


===Other===
===Other content===
*7 December - He posted some edgy lore on [[Pokémon]], lamenting that they are kept in suspended animation with "NO Simulated Fields made from Virtual Reality! NO Living Room Apartment Setting! NOTHING! Suspended Animation in Dark."<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#What it's like in a Pokeball]]</ref>.
*7 December - Chris posted an edgy [[Pokémon]] fan theory, lamenting that Pokémon are kept in suspended animation with "NO Simulated Fields made from Virtual Reality! NO Living Room Apartment Setting! NOTHING! Suspended Animation in Dark."<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#What it's like in a Pokeball]]</ref>.


*11 December - Chris performs a "[[Cherokean Chant]]", which involves copying the Squatting Slav meme while reciting quotes from ''S.T.A.L.K.E.R''.
*11 December - Chris performed a supposed "[[Cherokean Chant]]", which in fact involved mimicking the "Squatting Slav" meme and reciting infamous quotes from the ''S.T.A.L.K.E.R'' video game series.


==See also==
==See also==

Revision as of 02:31, 27 December 2017

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Around early November 2017, an anonymous troll acting as Chris's "idea guy" (also known as the "/pol/troll") decided to coerce Chris, through unknown means, into adding politically incorrect themes and false rumors into his comics, to show how gullible he is and how little he understands about the world. Chris's interactions with this Idea Guy started when he/she informed Chris that the characters from Hyperdimension Neptunia were invading CWCville.

Identity

The identity of the Idea Guy remains unknown. The name is somewhat misleading, as it is not certain that the Idea Guy is either male or a singular individual. Despite this, this name is the most frequently used when discussing related content, with "/pol/troll" a distant second, instead associating the troll's political themes to those popular on 4chan's /pol/ board.

Early in the Idea Guy saga, Jessica Quinn was considered a suspect as one of the few people who Chris trusts despite their trolling him, but this hypothesis soon fell out of favor. So far, no other identity has been proposed; Chris's followers can't figure it out, and Chris has kept silent.

Relationship with Chris

How the Idea Guy knows and influences Chris is unknown. Chris himself has never directly indicated that someone else is giving him ideas at all, though the many references that he does not understand are a clear sign of external influence. There are also signs that Chris is being coerced or duped into using the Idea Guy's ideas, as he appears uncomfortable in Idea Guy-inspired videos and is often alarmed by the troll's "revelations" about Chris's fictional world.

Ideas

Below is a summary of ideas in Chris's work attributed to the Idea Guy.

Hyperdimension Neptunia

Throughout November, Chris made several posts,[1] some accompanied by drawings, on being possessed by Hyperdimension Neptunia goddess Uzume Tennouboshi and an invasion of CWCville by enemy forces from the Neptunia video games.

Halfway through the month, observers began speculating that a new troll had appeared, as Chris's posts began to include references designed to go over his head. On 14 November, he wrote that Silvana had been captured by a Russian billionaire and posted a photo of the soldier who would be rescuing her, recognized by spectators as part of the Remove Kebab internet meme. The same day, Chris recorded Freestyle Dance With Me, For Our World! while wearing a tinfoil hat to prevent "the man" from reading his mind.

Nazi CWCville

A day after the "Freestyle Dance", Chris described in detail how Silvana had been saved in a military conflict titled Operation BARBarossa, thinking the name was meant to be a clever nod towards his mother. The post was littered with references to World War II, particularly on actions by Nazi Germany, such as "prison camps full of large ovens" built on CWCville soil.

Days later, Chris expanded on the new CWCville lore,[2] giving the names of the prison camps. He also warned that CWCville's supply of U.S. money had been tainted with a virus and encouraged travelers to use "Cwcsmarts" instead - a concept borrowed from video game Tom Clancy's The Division. Later, he mentioned that CWCville's ZIP code had been changed from its previous Mexican designation to one in Germany.

Two weeks after the BARBarossa post, Chris had noticed speculation that he had fallen in with the Nazi crowd, and took offense to it, insisting that the ideas had come from Count Graduon.

On 26 December, the Idea Guy informed Chris that citizens of CWCville who refused to accept SLGBTQ formed a homophobic klan and attacked the CWCville Mall, and rioted after the trial of Jamsta for molesting Punchy Sonichu. In the same message, he mentioned that the TrollBusters have been reformed into the "CWCstapo", an obvious (though lost on Chris) reference to the Gestapo, the secret police of Nazi Germany, to "be better at stopping criminals".[3] The update contains the line, "A police state is a Country run by CRIMINALS," a quote from Fatherland, a novel set in an alternate timeline in which Nazi Germany won World War II.

CWCville elections

On 26 November, Chris broke his longstanding policy barring elections in CWCville by announcing that both the Mayor and Chief of Police positions were up for election.[4] Both had candidates including notorious social and political figures, as well as Ian Brandon Anderson and Bob McKendrick.

Brendan Frasier won the Mayoral election[3].

Trans Rosechu

A distraught Chris posted to Facebook and Twitter in early December, saying that Rosechu had informed him that she was actually transgender, and had a penis up until the events of Sonichu #8, at which point she underwent gender-reassignment surgery to become "Fully Woman" and enable her to give birth to her children.[5]

Chris, agitated about the prospect of altering his canon in such a significant way, put up a poll to ask fans whether Rosechu should stay trans or be retconned back to his original concept of her being female from birth, pointing out that Rosechu being trans would hurt him and that the other option would hurt her. This reaction was seen by spectators as trans-shaming towards Rosechu, who he believes to be real in another dimension. In essence, Chris wants to be accepted as trans, added a ten year old trans-female to his comic, and forced Rosechu and the gang to fully accept and love Chris for coming out - but refuses to believe Rosechu herself could possibly be trans.

Other changes to Sonichu canon

Sonichu #15, a book Chris had wanted to use for a modern retelling of Sonichu #0 prior to his known interactions with the Idea Guy, has significant alterations to the canon of the comics. Sonichu's new birthday is given as April 20th, or "4/20" - representing the slang term "[[Tobacky#Cannabis|420", but also coinciding with Adolf Hitler's birthday and the anniversary of the Columbine massacre.

Halfway through December, Chris exclaimed that Silvana had been lost in the past, but that there was a way to bring her back if his followers would "BELIEVE In Silvana Rosechu, and her Fullest Existence in Cwcville, Virginia, USA, Of All Timelines, Worlds and Dimensions!"[6].

"Translated" dialogue

In November and December, Chris drew what he believed to be artwork featuring Sailor Moon characters conversing with his comic counterpart in foreign languages. However, he was actually tricked into writing "I am carrying a penis", among other things, in Japanese.[7]

A month later, more "translated" art was posted[8], this one featuring German lines from video games Brothers in Arms and Wolfenstein: The New Order. In addition, Chris tried to write the "I am carrying a penis" line again, although he accidentally wrote it with a typo.

The German translations in particular put Chris's naiveté on full display, with some of the German dialogue featuring terms such as "Zebra," "Evolution" and "Universum", which are similar or identical to their English counterparts yet obviously absent in the supposed English translations, yet he was none the wiser.

Other content

  • 7 December - Chris posted an edgy Pokémon fan theory, lamenting that Pokémon are kept in suspended animation with "NO Simulated Fields made from Virtual Reality! NO Living Room Apartment Setting! NOTHING! Suspended Animation in Dark."[9].
  • 11 December - Chris performed a supposed "Cherokean Chant", which in fact involved mimicking the "Squatting Slav" meme and reciting infamous quotes from the S.T.A.L.K.E.R video game series.

See also

References

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