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{{Unreliable|type=cred|Is a habitual liar.<ref group = note>Claims to have befriended MKR in the summer of 2019 in the CWCVille Rebellion server, when he was in conflicts with various Arbitarch members, despite the fact he was invited into [[The Sons of the Miscreants]] server, which predated that by at least several months.</ref><ref group = note>Claims that his main role with MKR was to keep her at bay, despite all of the drama that revolved around her.</ref><ref group = note>He has claimed to stop talking to Chris since August 2019, but Marvin said in 29 August 2019 that Owls was still talking to Chris.</ref>|Betrays his own associates.<ref group = note>Despite MKR stating that Owls is her "coach", and clearly being an associate of hers otherwise, Owls has scoffed at MKR multiple times on Kiwi Farms, even calling her a "cheap Chinese bootleg of Chris" in one instance.</ref>}}
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|title = Owls
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|organization = [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]] (founder, leader)
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[[Watchmen]]
|aliases = Owls<br>GhostBird50<br>CPU Turquoise Heart<br>birdlovingandrd<ref name = two>[[:File:OwlsFiles2.jpg]]</ref>
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'''Ryan Winger''', more commonly referred to as '''Owls''' was the original founder and leader of the [[Watchmen]]. He was '''GhostBird50''' on the [[Kiwi Farms]],<ref name=owlsaccount>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/page-1257#post-7343340 (Archive: https://archive.fo/06IZx)</ref> and as '''CpuTurquoiseHeart''' to Chris,<ref name=cpuowls>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl5-png.644835/</ref>.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> Initially, Owls advised MKRNightVee in interacting with Chris and founded the Watchmen's Discord server. Owls also acted as a liaison between Watchmen and [[Guard Dogs]] member Marvin, though fellow Watchman Naught alleged that he hadn't been reporting back to Marvin.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> Owls eventually left the group, stating he wanted no more part in Chris's situation or in Internet drama,<ref>[[:File:Ghostbird_kiwistatus.png]]</ref> and was succeeded by Naught. This seems to have come when he got involved in a feud<ref name=OwlsFeud></ref> with several other obscure Chris orbiters.
{{Quote|I highlighted some of her chat logs, give this simpler version a read. Behind the scenes someone is coaching MKR, in the end you will wind up getting hurt.|Tings Tingz warning  Chris about Owls.<ref>[[Tings Tingz DMs#Pre-Block Chats]]</ref>}}


==Creation of the Watchmen==
'''Ryan Winger''', more commonly referred to as '''Owls''' was an associate of [[MKRNightVee]]. He was '''GhostBird50''' on the [[Kiwi Farms]]<ref name=owlsaccount>[[Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)]]</ref> and the CWCki, and as '''CpuTurquoiseHeart''' to Chris.<ref name=cpuowls>[[The Sons of the Miscreants#Owls]]</ref><ref name=naughtclarify>[[Naught#Follow-up on Origins]]</ref>


According to Owls, he had met [[MKRNightVee]] and Talia in the CWC Rebellion Discord server.
According to [[MKRNightVee]], Owls has been a long-time Christorian that knew the rights and wrongs of communicating with Chris.<ref name=cpuowls/>  Though he's scoffed at MKR's attempts at CPU roleplaying with Chris on Kiwi Farms multiple times, he also claims that this was his idea. He claimed that after talking with MKR for about month, he came up with the idea of trying to convince Chris that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)#Owls's Account]]</ref>


==Kiwi Farms Post==
==Interactions with Chris==
The full scope on Owls' involvement with Chris is unknown, but there are some clues based on what little concrete information there is about him.


The CWCki user [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] had made a post on the Kiwi Farms regarding the gathering of info of Owls, where he is acussed of being a 40-year-old man who wanted to create a "harem" of its female members.<ref>{{cite farms|writer=The American Hedgehog|thread=49854|post=7332526}}</ref> Owls posted on the Kiwi Farms to try and defend himself.<ref>{{cite farms|writer=GhostBird50|thread=49854|post=7343340}}</ref>
===Motives===
{{Quote|I want to say while it's great he's being optimistic because watching Chris be depressing or Social justice isn't that fun to watch so I'm kinda glad at that fact he's being somewhat normal and optimistic. but as soon as he mentions the stupid merge shit I immediately think "you were doing so well then you threw it all away for your stupid fantasy bullshit." at this point I will pay money to whoever can get him back to his old self.|Owls, wanting Chris's "old self" back.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=23605|post=4580956}}</ref>}}
{{Quote|honestly seeing that Chris actively avoids adversity and is stuck firmly in the belief that the merge is a real thing and ever little disaster the happens is part of it so he can use it as an excuse to forgo all responsibilities , we will get nothing from him unless he is faced with something he can't ignore or avoid.|Owls' reply to a post complaining about the lack of new content from Chris.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=23605|post=4733326}}</ref>}}


{{quoteboxbrown|For the purpose of setting things straight im just gonna post my story of what happened. Hi, my name is Ryan winger as you already know essentially over summer break, a friend had told me about Chris chan and his amazing adventures. I got really sucked into the crazy bullshit and decided to start orbiting. after a while of orbiting, I stupidly found the CWC rebellion discord after messaging smoky Chris who was running it (later to find out sperg was running the server and everything else in an attempt to force content out of Chris). after joining these people for about a week I met and kinda befriended 2 people one of them was MKR and the other was a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris this person was Talia (later I learned was a person that went from server and server searching out content from sperg). Meghan had started talking to Chris after some time so I devoted my time that I had to attempt to keep Meghan from causing problems and in all honesty, I did a pretty shit job at it. after a while Meghan had befriended Chris and weens we bothering her and her personal issues were getting hard on her too.
One of Owls' supposed end goals was to try and convince Chris that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen, and for him to live a normal life, while beating away at Idea Guy-like trolls. Owls has claimed that Marvin knew about this, and that there was a liaison between his group and the Guard Dogs, but Marvin has also denied this.<ref>[[Naught#Follow-up on Origins]]</ref><ref>[[:File:OwlsFiles3.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:Marvin on conventions claim.png]]</ref> Several posts from Owls on Kiwi Farms seem to indicate that the reason he was doing this was out of wanting Chris to be back to his "old self", and claimed he was willing to "pay" anyone that could bring back the Classic Era.


time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea. around this time after we had failed sperg came back into the picture as himself. the "haram" he talks about is a group of people within his inner circle who I don't want to bring into this who were a few people I made friends with and lived within a close enough distance that all of us being wage cucks could move in together. this possibly could afford us a single house together as roommates and shit so that the cost of living would be easier on us. the whole reason this became a "harem" was that sperg was angry that the friends I had made and I realized how stupid he was after we noticed was going to get himself in trouble decided to leave.
Owls has also claimed that he was all for trolling Chris, so long as it was just "harmless gaslighting", and also expressed having ideas of his own, but was unable to go through with them due to them requiring him to spend money and the possible flak he'd receive for attempting them.<ref>[[:File:OwlsFiles1.0.jpg]]</ref>


having left spergs crew of people Meghan had found another group of people that were "farms people" I don't know who and have since forgotten. after a while of hanging around them, I decided that this was not meant for me and I needed to get back to my life as I was not comfortable with how things were going for me. It was around this time that I stopped posting and using Kiwi Farms so I could finish up school and get a degree.
===CPU Roleplaying===


That whole summer was essentially me being a retard getting into something way over my head and then attempting to walk away from it. I have since left the Chris chan community and don't plan on coming back at all there are some people on here that I enjoyed reading their posts as they were funny or insightful. but there were some people that orbited and a lot of people on the twitter that in general were just toxic and I realized I didn't have the time to handle things. since the time of Meghan talking to "Farms people" and me walking away I haven't written anything for Meghan comic or talked to her or their group since.
His primary means of accomplishing his goals involved recruiting some Chris orbiters such as [[MKRNightVee]], and some associates of hers that she had trusted, to roleplay as CPU Goddesses, the latter of which the Idea Guys were infamous of doing.<ref name = MKRroleplay>[[Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)#Owls on MKR's roleplaying]]</ref> Owls has also claimed that he was largely responsible for much of the NightVee comic that MKR was working on, as he was the one that wrote for it.<ref name = two/> The earliest Owls has been known to be in contact with MKRNightVee appears to be somewhere between December 2018 to January 2019, as he was invited into the Sons of the Miscreants server she ran.<ref name=cpuowls/> In the server, MKR claims that Owls was her "manager" and "coach". This is made more apparent given that MKR had told the other members in the group that they had to talk to Owls personally before they could begin roleplaying as CPU Goddesses with Chris.


in general, on the few times I ever ended up talking to Chris I had the dark realization that there was nothing I could have done to help him and I probably should leave the community and such. I will admit I don't regret some of the friends I made and some of the times I had but this was greatly outweighed by the number of toxic people and those who look to slander those foolish enough to come with good intentions. while I can't stop the creation of posts or articles about me id much rather they have more straight facts or personal accounts over speculations and manipulation of those who believe toes I have stepped on.
When he roleplayed with Chris, he was CPU Goddess Turquoise Heart. According to MKR, Chris was seemingly led to believe that both her and Owls were powerful psychics. Owls has claimed that he stopped interacting with Chris sometime in August 2019 but [[Marvin]], who Owls was also in contact with, states that Owls was still talking to Chris.


anyway, it was fun for me for the most part but im out.}}
===NightVee Comic===
Owls had written for the NightVee comics.


===Rowlette OC===
[[File:Wabbit hunting season.jpg|thumb]]
Owls' avatar was a Rowlette, often depicted wearing a general's hat and smoking a cigar. In MKR's canon, the avatar was depicted as a pet of hers.
In one of the TSSSF, Chris made it a part of his lore that said Rowlette had killed Hariet from ''Super Mario Odyssey'', who in his canon is an agent of [[Giovanni]].
==A-Logging==
Despite his supposed goals in "helping" Chris, Owls has shown multiple cases of A-logging, both towards Chris and some of his own associates.
On Kiwi Farms, many of the comments he made involved him chastising MKR's attempts in roleplaying CPU Magenta Heart, essentially calling her attempts at it pointless by saying she's as "mental as Chris", attributing that to why she's unable to get Chris to change.<ref name = MKRroleplay/> Owls has also once suggested that Chris might be put in a mental hospital after Barb died for his fantasies about OCs and CPU Goddesses, fantasies that he encourages his associates to engage with Chris about.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=23605|post=4625472}}</ref>
On Twitter, Owls went under the alias '''birdlovingandrd''', which he also used to A-log Chris with, replying to many of his tweets and those of some of his other orbiters.<ref>https://x.com/birdlovingandrd/with_replies ([https://archive.is/wip/znQZl archive])</ref>
Owls has also commentated on Chris's reaction to getting mass blocked on Twitter over on Kiwi Farms.
==Exposure==
The CWCki user [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] had made a post on the Kiwi Farms regarding the gathering of info of Owls, which he had received from another user via a DM, where Owls is acussed of being a 40-year-old man who wanted to create a "harem" of its female members.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Owls]]</ref> Owls posted on the Kiwi Farms to try and defend himself.<ref name = owlsaccount></ref>
==Conclusion==
{{quote|im not even able to claim to not be retarded. like in all honesty I was autistic enough to believe when I started that somehow I could help Chris out and by the end of it I literally questioned if I should see a doctor to find out if im autistic|Owls, after being called out on Kiwi Farms.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=49854|post=7343642|title=Random Thoughts & Questions}}</ref>}}
Owls' end goal, whatever it may have been, ultimately never came through. Whether it was "helping" Chris, bringing back the good old days of Christory, or creating a "harem" out of his female orbiters, Owls left no long-lasting impact on Chris. In the midst of his retardation, however, it all inadvertently lead to a [[Lainchu|whole slew]] [[Praetor-Watchmen Conflicts|of new]] [[The Place|misadventures that]] [[Knights of CWC|would come]] [[Incest Call|across our hero's way]], thanks in part to his influence on MKRNightVee.
==See Also==
*[[Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)]]
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Latest revision as of 09:22, 19 July 2025

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Note on Credibility:

Owls has been deemed to be an unreliable narrator for the following reasons:
Is a habitual liar.[note 1][note 2][note 3]
Betrays his own associates.[note 4]
Bear this in mind, and use healthy skepticism when taking statements from the subject being discussed.

Owls
Information
Name Ryan Winger
Also known as Owls
GhostBird50
CPU Turquoise Heart
birdlovingandrd[1]
Gender MALE
Organization Arbitarch CWC Alliance (founder, leader)

Watchmen

Saga TF2 Analysis, Arbitarch, Watchmen
I highlighted some of her chat logs, give this simpler version a read. Behind the scenes someone is coaching MKR, in the end you will wind up getting hurt.
Tings Tingz warning Chris about Owls.[2]

Ryan Winger, more commonly referred to as Owls was an associate of MKRNightVee. He was GhostBird50 on the Kiwi Farms[3] and the CWCki, and as CpuTurquoiseHeart to Chris.[4][5]

According to MKRNightVee, Owls has been a long-time Christorian that knew the rights and wrongs of communicating with Chris.[4] Though he's scoffed at MKR's attempts at CPU roleplaying with Chris on Kiwi Farms multiple times, he also claims that this was his idea. He claimed that after talking with MKR for about month, he came up with the idea of trying to convince Chris that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen.[6]

Interactions with Chris

The full scope on Owls' involvement with Chris is unknown, but there are some clues based on what little concrete information there is about him.

Motives

I want to say while it's great he's being optimistic because watching Chris be depressing or Social justice isn't that fun to watch so I'm kinda glad at that fact he's being somewhat normal and optimistic. but as soon as he mentions the stupid merge shit I immediately think "you were doing so well then you threw it all away for your stupid fantasy bullshit." at this point I will pay money to whoever can get him back to his old self.
Owls, wanting Chris's "old self" back.[7]
honestly seeing that Chris actively avoids adversity and is stuck firmly in the belief that the merge is a real thing and ever little disaster the happens is part of it so he can use it as an excuse to forgo all responsibilities , we will get nothing from him unless he is faced with something he can't ignore or avoid.
Owls' reply to a post complaining about the lack of new content from Chris.[8]

One of Owls' supposed end goals was to try and convince Chris that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen, and for him to live a normal life, while beating away at Idea Guy-like trolls. Owls has claimed that Marvin knew about this, and that there was a liaison between his group and the Guard Dogs, but Marvin has also denied this.[9][10][11] Several posts from Owls on Kiwi Farms seem to indicate that the reason he was doing this was out of wanting Chris to be back to his "old self", and claimed he was willing to "pay" anyone that could bring back the Classic Era.

Owls has also claimed that he was all for trolling Chris, so long as it was just "harmless gaslighting", and also expressed having ideas of his own, but was unable to go through with them due to them requiring him to spend money and the possible flak he'd receive for attempting them.[12]

CPU Roleplaying

His primary means of accomplishing his goals involved recruiting some Chris orbiters such as MKRNightVee, and some associates of hers that she had trusted, to roleplay as CPU Goddesses, the latter of which the Idea Guys were infamous of doing.[13] Owls has also claimed that he was largely responsible for much of the NightVee comic that MKR was working on, as he was the one that wrote for it.[1] The earliest Owls has been known to be in contact with MKRNightVee appears to be somewhere between December 2018 to January 2019, as he was invited into the Sons of the Miscreants server she ran.[4] In the server, MKR claims that Owls was her "manager" and "coach". This is made more apparent given that MKR had told the other members in the group that they had to talk to Owls personally before they could begin roleplaying as CPU Goddesses with Chris.

When he roleplayed with Chris, he was CPU Goddess Turquoise Heart. According to MKR, Chris was seemingly led to believe that both her and Owls were powerful psychics. Owls has claimed that he stopped interacting with Chris sometime in August 2019 but Marvin, who Owls was also in contact with, states that Owls was still talking to Chris.

NightVee Comic

Owls had written for the NightVee comics.

Rowlette OC

Wabbit hunting season.jpg

Owls' avatar was a Rowlette, often depicted wearing a general's hat and smoking a cigar. In MKR's canon, the avatar was depicted as a pet of hers.

In one of the TSSSF, Chris made it a part of his lore that said Rowlette had killed Hariet from Super Mario Odyssey, who in his canon is an agent of Giovanni.

A-Logging

Despite his supposed goals in "helping" Chris, Owls has shown multiple cases of A-logging, both towards Chris and some of his own associates.

On Kiwi Farms, many of the comments he made involved him chastising MKR's attempts in roleplaying CPU Magenta Heart, essentially calling her attempts at it pointless by saying she's as "mental as Chris", attributing that to why she's unable to get Chris to change.[13] Owls has also once suggested that Chris might be put in a mental hospital after Barb died for his fantasies about OCs and CPU Goddesses, fantasies that he encourages his associates to engage with Chris about.[14]

On Twitter, Owls went under the alias birdlovingandrd, which he also used to A-log Chris with, replying to many of his tweets and those of some of his other orbiters.[15]

Owls has also commentated on Chris's reaction to getting mass blocked on Twitter over on Kiwi Farms.

Exposure

The CWCki user Hurtful Truth Level had made a post on the Kiwi Farms regarding the gathering of info of Owls, which he had received from another user via a DM, where Owls is acussed of being a 40-year-old man who wanted to create a "harem" of its female members.[16] Owls posted on the Kiwi Farms to try and defend himself.[3]

Conclusion

im not even able to claim to not be retarded. like in all honesty I was autistic enough to believe when I started that somehow I could help Chris out and by the end of it I literally questioned if I should see a doctor to find out if im autistic
Owls, after being called out on Kiwi Farms.[17]

Owls' end goal, whatever it may have been, ultimately never came through. Whether it was "helping" Chris, bringing back the good old days of Christory, or creating a "harem" out of his female orbiters, Owls left no long-lasting impact on Chris. In the midst of his retardation, however, it all inadvertently lead to a whole slew of new misadventures that would come across our hero's way, thanks in part to his influence on MKRNightVee.

See Also

Notes

  1. Claims to have befriended MKR in the summer of 2019 in the CWCVille Rebellion server, when he was in conflicts with various Arbitarch members, despite the fact he was invited into The Sons of the Miscreants server, which predated that by at least several months.
  2. Claims that his main role with MKR was to keep her at bay, despite all of the drama that revolved around her.
  3. He has claimed to stop talking to Chris since August 2019, but Marvin said in 29 August 2019 that Owls was still talking to Chris.
  4. Despite MKR stating that Owls is her "coach", and clearly being an associate of hers otherwise, Owls has scoffed at MKR multiple times on Kiwi Farms, even calling her a "cheap Chinese bootleg of Chris" in one instance.

References

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The Players

Organizations: The Sons of the MiscreantsArbitarch CWC AllianceCWCVille Rebellion
People: ChrisMKRNightVee (Creamarina) • OwlsAquaDiamond8 (Wendy) • Jacob SocknessDillin ThomasGiBiKyleNaughtThe WCTSmoky ChrisThatSpergeTalia NakaraJoseph DraftMegan SchroederTings TingzSarah and SteveMidnight MoonflowerMRKs Bloody Chunks
Fictional Characters: CPU GoddessesNightVeeCreamarinaTriVal Valentino


Chats: The Sons of the Miscreants chats • Arbitarch CWC Alliance (Nov '19Dec '19Jan '20 )
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Coinciding Sagas: Jacob, Secret Shipfic, TF2 Analysis, Watchmen


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