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{{quote|find their building and punch an executive into caring.|Chris's reaction to being banned<ref name=punch>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/12-29-15-chris-threatens-lulu-merp-slurp-me-wop-filkin-gee-duop-he-cho.15906/page-7#post-1180584</ref>.}} | |||
[[File:Lulu listing sonichu 1.png|thumb|The Lulu listing for Sonichu 1, as seen in November 2015]] | [[File:Lulu listing sonichu 1.png|thumb|The Lulu listing for Sonichu 1, as seen in November 2015]] | ||
'''Lulu''' is a website which offers self-publishing for authors. Customers can also order books directly from the site. | '''Lulu''' is a website which offers self-publishing for authors. Customers can also order books directly from the site. | ||
In September 2015, Chris began selling printed copies of the Sonichu comic on Lulu.com<ref>[[September 2015 Facebook Posts#Now Chris is on Lulu]]</ref> | In September 2015, Chris began selling printed copies of the Sonichu comic on Lulu.com,<ref>[[September 2015 Facebook Posts#Now Chris is on Lulu]]</ref> as well as offering autographed versions through [[Etsy]] (by ordering the comics from Lulu, signing them, then shipping to the buyers). | ||
After a two-year hiatus, he announced on [[Patreon]] in 2017 that he would be shipping out Sonichu books again. It was discovered that he was still using Lulu. | After a two-year hiatus, he announced on [[Patreon]] in 2017 that he would be shipping out Sonichu books again. It was discovered that he was still using Lulu. | ||
==Pricing== | ==Pricing== | ||
He charged $9.99 for Sonichu 0 direct from Lulu, and $10 for the same comic on Etsy. Oddly, he lowered the Lulu price for Sonichu 1 to $4.11 and kept the same $10 price on Etsy. | He charged $9.99 for ''Sonichu'' #0 direct from Lulu, and $10 for the same comic on Etsy. Oddly, he lowered the Lulu price for ''Sonichu'' #1 to $4.11 and kept the same $10 price on Etsy. | ||
A few weeks after selling directly through the website in 2015, he changed the Lulu listings to private. He then edited the book listings on Etsy with the following: | A few weeks after selling directly through the website in 2015, he changed the Lulu listings to private. He then edited the book listings on Etsy with the following: | ||
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{{quotebox|<nowiki>**Please note:</nowiki> This is the ONLY way to order the book; I have the books printed through Lulu.com. And each copy sent from me will be shipped in a plastic Comic Book Sleeve with cardboard lining, inside a large envelope. My price here covers shipping from there to me, and then to you. Thank you.}} | {{quotebox|<nowiki>**Please note:</nowiki> This is the ONLY way to order the book; I have the books printed through Lulu.com. And each copy sent from me will be shipped in a plastic Comic Book Sleeve with cardboard lining, inside a large envelope. My price here covers shipping from there to me, and then to you. Thank you.}} | ||
When asked, Chris stated that he had to do it that way because of [[trolls|the haters]]<ref>[[:File:Lulu listing.png]]</ref> | When asked, Chris stated that he had to do it that way because of [[trolls|the haters]].<ref>[[:File:Lulu listing.png]]</ref> | ||
In 2017, Chris revamped his [[Patreon]] reward tiers. He included options for fans to purchase autographed books. At the $20 per month level, one could buy a "Book of the Month" subscription; for $50 per month, a set of four books. | In 2017, Chris revamped his [[Patreon]] reward tiers. He included options for fans to purchase autographed books. At the $20 per month level, one could buy a "Book of the Month" subscription; for $50 per month, a set of four books. | ||
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==Ban and assault threats== | ==Ban and assault threats== | ||
In December 2015, Chris was banned from Lulu for selling [[Sonichu (comic)|fan fiction]]<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Lulu Account Suspended]]</ref> | In December 2015, Chris was banned from Lulu for selling [[Sonichu (comic)|fan fiction]].<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Lulu Account Suspended]]</ref> In true Chris fashion, he responded by threatening Lulu's executives with physical violence,<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Threatening Lulu's Executives]]</ref> despite the fact that he was on probation for [[26 December 2014|an act of violence]] against a GameStop employee. | ||
{{quotebox|I feel like asking if someone would go to Lulu.com's building and punching the executives there for causing all of this distress and upset upon me. | {{quotebox|I feel like asking if someone would go to Lulu.com's building and punching the executives there for causing all of this distress and upset upon me. | ||
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Merp slurp me wop filkin gee duop he cho. }} | Merp slurp me wop filkin gee duop he cho. }} | ||
He elaborated further on his threat, saying to a Kiwi Farms user | He elaborated further on his threat, saying to a Kiwi Farms user: | ||
{{quotebox|Well, find their building and punch an executive into caring. | |||
I don't necessarily mean that literally, but I feel so off that it's hard to think clearly. But I feel like I would want to do that if I could.<ref name=punch></ref>}} | |||
Chris's anger against Lulu is reminiscent of his grudge against [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Both were figures of authority who told Chris the cold truth about him being wrong on some of his most beloved notions and refused to budge. More than a decade separates the two, yet Chris has learned nothing on conflict resolution since then. | |||
==Post-ban== | ==Post-ban== | ||
Chris was able to continue selling comics, supposedly through Ka-blam, according to a post he made in January 2016.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/1-13-new-book-listing.16419/#post-1207002M</ref> However, no copies of books ordered through Ka-blam have turned up, and books ordered after his banning still had the Lulu logo, according to a customer who ordered books in February,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/problems-success-with-ordering-from-cwcville-etsy-ebay.17301/page-14#post-1273098</ref> even though Chris had claimed to be out of stock in December. | |||
Chris was able to continue selling comics, supposedly through Ka-blam, according to a post he made in January 2016<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/1-13-new-book-listing.16419/#post-1207002M</ref> | |||
The fact that Chris was able to continue supplying comics from Lulu implies that he simply rejoined the site under an alternate account. | The fact that Chris was able to continue supplying comics from Lulu implies that he simply rejoined the site under an alternate account. | ||
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Throughout 2016, facing mounting criticism for being unwilling to work on [[Sonichu 11|the comic that he had been paid over $1,000 to do]], Chris continually used Lulu as a scapegoat, casting blame on the ban to explain why he had no work ethic. | Throughout 2016, facing mounting criticism for being unwilling to work on [[Sonichu 11|the comic that he had been paid over $1,000 to do]], Chris continually used Lulu as a scapegoat, casting blame on the ban to explain why he had no work ethic. | ||
In February, he said the following in response to a troll who contrasted his desire for a fan to send him a PS4 with his failure to work on the comic<ref>[[February 2016 Facebook Posts#Bleeding Autism]]</ref> | In February, he said the following in response to a troll who contrasted his desire for a fan to send him a PS4 with his failure to work on the comic:<ref>[[February 2016 Facebook Posts#Bleeding Autism]]</ref> | ||
{{quotebox|I have to be in the right mind set in order to draw and create. Between my ADD, from the bleeding autism, and the stresses of life, including finances and keeping the household above water with the sales and keeping up with the orders, plus the publisher problem last December having weighed me down not helping either, not to mention my Fickle Internal Clock changing my sleep schedule from being a Day Person into a Night Person, and back and forth over and again... It gets frustrating to me. And that is why I needed the time to recover.}} | {{quotebox|I have to be in the right mind set in order to draw and create. Between my ADD, from the bleeding autism, and the stresses of life, including finances and keeping the household above water with the sales and keeping up with the orders, plus the publisher problem last December having weighed me down not helping either, not to mention my Fickle Internal Clock changing my sleep schedule from being a Day Person into a Night Person, and back and forth over and again... It gets frustrating to me. And that is why I needed the time to recover.}} | ||
In December, after ''a full year'' had passed since the ban, Chris was still holding his grudge<ref>[[December 2016 Facebook posts#Take down the CWCki, or Not to take down the CWCki?]]</ref> | In December, after ''a full year'' had passed since the ban, Chris was still holding his grudge:<ref>[[December 2016 Facebook posts#Take down the CWCki, or Not to take down the CWCki?]]</ref> | ||
{{quotebox|HERE'S the bugger that bit my ass bad and killed my creative groove a year ago. Thanks a Lump, tattle-telling Internet Trolls/Haters. You lot are Not helping anyone. }} | {{quotebox|HERE'S the bugger that bit my ass bad and killed my creative groove a year ago. Thanks a Lump, tattle-telling Internet Trolls/Haters. You lot are Not helping anyone.}} | ||
It is illogical for Chris to place the blame for his loss of creativity squarely on an event which happened in December 2015. | It is illogical for Chris to place the blame for his loss of creativity squarely on an event which happened in December 2015. | ||
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Chris might simply have a case of writer's block. In November 2016, he said, "And since last December with that mess with Lulu, I feel the feeling has to be fresh and staying hot. I have been unable to find that feeling again."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#You jerks]]</ref> | Chris might simply have a case of writer's block. In November 2016, he said, "And since last December with that mess with Lulu, I feel the feeling has to be fresh and staying hot. I have been unable to find that feeling again."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#You jerks]]</ref> | ||
The excuse continued into 2017, when he reacted angrily at a ween who had brought up [[DStecks]]<ref>[[2017 tweets#Doopie defends Chris]]</ref>. | The excuse continued into 2017, when he reacted angrily at a ween who had brought up [[DStecks]].<ref>[[2017 tweets#Doopie defends Chris]]</ref> | ||
However, just one month later, Chris began drawing [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] again. He later mentioned on [[Patreon]] that he was planning to sell books again, and it was confirmed by a field agent that he intended to use his alternate Lulu account to do so,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-6-4-sonichu-11-patreon-only.31347/page-7#post-2323599</ref> proving that his lame attempt to blame Lulu for killing his creativity has no merit. | |||
==Reopened to public== | |||
[[File:Sonichu 8 on Lulu.png|thumb|200px|The "extended" edition of [[Sonichu 8]], behind an age verification paywall.]] | |||
On 9 February 2018, Chris, for whatever reason, thought it would be a good idea to open the second Lulu account to the public.<ref>[[February 2018 Facebook Posts]]</ref> Predictably, [[weens]] and [[A-log]]s flagged it again, and three days later, it was gone. | |||
However, in the next few days, Chris made another announcement, putting up a poll on whether his fans would like a copy of [[Bryanfrogboy]]'s CWC Prequel comic with their comic order in March. | |||
{{quotebox|Also, I’ll take a Poll for my Patreon: in addition to the usual next set of books of the month for the March Payment (for those who haven’t ordered a copy), I’ll print for each of y’all, This Time Around ONLY, the Chris Chan Prequel Comic by @Bryanfrogboy; who wants a copy?<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/964616583002849281</ref>}} | |||
This suggests that he simply made another Lulu account, handily defeating the weens at their game. | |||
In April 2020, Chris increased book prices to a minimum of $15 per issue, due to a rise in Lulu's prices due to "their greedy mits and “Better Quality Ink” or some shit like that."<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref> | |||
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==See also== | ==See also== |
Latest revision as of 06:42, 30 April 2020
“ | find their building and punch an executive into caring. | ” |
Chris's reaction to being banned[1]. |
Lulu is a website which offers self-publishing for authors. Customers can also order books directly from the site.
In September 2015, Chris began selling printed copies of the Sonichu comic on Lulu.com,[2] as well as offering autographed versions through Etsy (by ordering the comics from Lulu, signing them, then shipping to the buyers).
After a two-year hiatus, he announced on Patreon in 2017 that he would be shipping out Sonichu books again. It was discovered that he was still using Lulu.
Pricing
He charged $9.99 for Sonichu #0 direct from Lulu, and $10 for the same comic on Etsy. Oddly, he lowered the Lulu price for Sonichu #1 to $4.11 and kept the same $10 price on Etsy.
A few weeks after selling directly through the website in 2015, he changed the Lulu listings to private. He then edited the book listings on Etsy with the following:
**Please note: This is the ONLY way to order the book; I have the books printed through Lulu.com. And each copy sent from me will be shipped in a plastic Comic Book Sleeve with cardboard lining, inside a large envelope. My price here covers shipping from there to me, and then to you. Thank you. |
When asked, Chris stated that he had to do it that way because of the haters.[3]
In 2017, Chris revamped his Patreon reward tiers. He included options for fans to purchase autographed books. At the $20 per month level, one could buy a "Book of the Month" subscription; for $50 per month, a set of four books.
Ban and assault threats
In December 2015, Chris was banned from Lulu for selling fan fiction.[4] In true Chris fashion, he responded by threatening Lulu's executives with physical violence,[5] despite the fact that he was on probation for an act of violence against a GameStop employee.
I feel like asking if someone would go to Lulu.com's building and punching the executives there for causing all of this distress and upset upon me.
Merp slurp me wop filkin gee duop he cho. |
He elaborated further on his threat, saying to a Kiwi Farms user:
Well, find their building and punch an executive into caring.
I don't necessarily mean that literally, but I feel so off that it's hard to think clearly. But I feel like I would want to do that if I could.[1] |
Chris's anger against Lulu is reminiscent of his grudge against Mary Lee Walsh. Both were figures of authority who told Chris the cold truth about him being wrong on some of his most beloved notions and refused to budge. More than a decade separates the two, yet Chris has learned nothing on conflict resolution since then.
Post-ban
Chris was able to continue selling comics, supposedly through Ka-blam, according to a post he made in January 2016.[6] However, no copies of books ordered through Ka-blam have turned up, and books ordered after his banning still had the Lulu logo, according to a customer who ordered books in February,[7] even though Chris had claimed to be out of stock in December.
The fact that Chris was able to continue supplying comics from Lulu implies that he simply rejoined the site under an alternate account.
Scapegoat
Throughout 2016, facing mounting criticism for being unwilling to work on the comic that he had been paid over $1,000 to do, Chris continually used Lulu as a scapegoat, casting blame on the ban to explain why he had no work ethic.
In February, he said the following in response to a troll who contrasted his desire for a fan to send him a PS4 with his failure to work on the comic:[8]
I have to be in the right mind set in order to draw and create. Between my ADD, from the bleeding autism, and the stresses of life, including finances and keeping the household above water with the sales and keeping up with the orders, plus the publisher problem last December having weighed me down not helping either, not to mention my Fickle Internal Clock changing my sleep schedule from being a Day Person into a Night Person, and back and forth over and again... It gets frustrating to me. And that is why I needed the time to recover. |
In December, after a full year had passed since the ban, Chris was still holding his grudge:[9]
HERE'S the bugger that bit my ass bad and killed my creative groove a year ago. Thanks a Lump, tattle-telling Internet Trolls/Haters. You lot are Not helping anyone. |
It is illogical for Chris to place the blame for his loss of creativity squarely on an event which happened in December 2015.
Chris actually stopped work on the comic on October 25th, long before Lulu banned him in early December.
As stated above, he had solved the publisher problem by 7 January 2016, when he posted, "I am capable again of selling and printing my books." He also had motivation enough to release Books 3 and 4, in January and February.
In addition, Chris mentioned to Arthur Spatchcock in February 2016 that he had some ideas for new Sonichu pages.
Chris might simply have a case of writer's block. In November 2016, he said, "And since last December with that mess with Lulu, I feel the feeling has to be fresh and staying hot. I have been unable to find that feeling again."[10]
The excuse continued into 2017, when he reacted angrily at a ween who had brought up DStecks.[11]
However, just one month later, Chris began drawing Sonichu #11 again. He later mentioned on Patreon that he was planning to sell books again, and it was confirmed by a field agent that he intended to use his alternate Lulu account to do so,[12] proving that his lame attempt to blame Lulu for killing his creativity has no merit.
Reopened to public
On 9 February 2018, Chris, for whatever reason, thought it would be a good idea to open the second Lulu account to the public.[13] Predictably, weens and A-logs flagged it again, and three days later, it was gone.
However, in the next few days, Chris made another announcement, putting up a poll on whether his fans would like a copy of Bryanfrogboy's CWC Prequel comic with their comic order in March.
Also, I’ll take a Poll for my Patreon: in addition to the usual next set of books of the month for the March Payment (for those who haven’t ordered a copy), I’ll print for each of y’all, This Time Around ONLY, the Chris Chan Prequel Comic by @Bryanfrogboy; who wants a copy?[14] |
This suggests that he simply made another Lulu account, handily defeating the weens at their game.
In April 2020, Chris increased book prices to a minimum of $15 per issue, due to a rise in Lulu's prices due to "their greedy mits and “Better Quality Ink” or some shit like that."[15]
See also
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/12-29-15-chris-threatens-lulu-merp-slurp-me-wop-filkin-gee-duop-he-cho.15906/page-7#post-1180584
- ↑ September 2015 Facebook Posts#Now Chris is on Lulu
- ↑ File:Lulu listing.png
- ↑ December 2015 Facebook Posts#Lulu Account Suspended
- ↑ December 2015 Facebook Posts#Threatening Lulu's Executives
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/1-13-new-book-listing.16419/#post-1207002M
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/problems-success-with-ordering-from-cwcville-etsy-ebay.17301/page-14#post-1273098
- ↑ February 2016 Facebook Posts#Bleeding Autism
- ↑ December 2016 Facebook posts#Take down the CWCki, or Not to take down the CWCki?
- ↑ November 2016 Facebook posts#You jerks
- ↑ 2017 tweets#Doopie defends Chris
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-6-4-sonichu-11-patreon-only.31347/page-7#post-2323599
- ↑ February 2018 Facebook Posts
- ↑ https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/964616583002849281
- ↑ April 2020 social media posts
External links
- Chris's Lulu account - DOWN
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