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|label1 = Names | |label1 = Names | ||
|data1 = Clover<br>Snoopy | |data1 = Clover<br>Snoopy | ||
|label3 = Date of | |label2 = Nicknames | ||
|data3 = | |data2 = Snoopy-Doo (Snoopy) | ||
|label3 = Date of birth | |||
|data3 = [[March 2012]] | |||
|label4 = Date of death | |||
|data4 = 15 [[July 2021]] (Snoopy) | |||
|label5 = Gender | |label5 = Gender | ||
|data5 = Female (Clover)<br />Male (Snoopy) | |data5 = Female (Clover)<br/>Male (Snoopy) | ||
|label6 = Breed | |label6 = Breed | ||
|data6 = | |data6 = {{w|Beagle}} | ||
|label7 = Owners | |label7 = Owners | ||
|data7 = [[Barbara]]<br />[[Chris]] | |data7 = [[Barbara]]<br />[[Chris]] | ||
}} | }} | ||
'''Clover | '''Clover''' (b. circa [[March 2012]]<ref>According to their [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210124928/http://charlottesvilleradiogroup.upickem.net/engine/Details.aspx?p=A&c=64810&s=22437342&i=1&sort=DESCENDING#SD entry], they were three months old when Chris entered them into the contest. Since registration to the contest began on 16 [[July 2012]] (see [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210125245/http://charlottesvilleradiogroup.upickem.net/engine/Rules.aspx?contestid=64810 contest rules]) and they were registered no later than 1 [[August 2012|August]], this would mean they were born sometime between March and May. Chris has stated that Snoopy was born in March, meaning that Clover could have been born at or around the same time.</ref>) is the Chandlers' beagle. '''Snoopy''' (March 2012 - 15 July 2021) was her brother.<ref name=snoopydeath>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/snoopy-has-died.95170/</ref><ref name=eulogy>[[July 2021 social media posts#Eulogy for Snoopy]]</ref> The Chandlers bought them at a puppy mill in [[wikipedia:Fredericksburg, Virginia|Fredericksburg]] on 13 [[May 2012]]. | ||
The idea of getting beagles was originally Barbara's idea, and Chris eventually acquiesced. The CWC community learned of their existence on 1 [[August 2012]], when a link to an [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210124928/http://charlottesvilleradiogroup.upickem.net/engine/Details.aspx?p=A&c=64810&s=22437342&i=1&sort=DESCENDING#SD entry of them] Chris submitted to a [[Chris and contests#Dog Days of Summer Photo Contest|local contest]] was posted on the [[CWCki Forums]]; Chris didn't win the contest. | |||
According to one of Chris's | According to one of Chris's Facebook posts, the dogs are siblings. Clover, Chris's dog, has a white mark on her snout, and Snoopy didn't. Clover has a pink collar, and Snoopy had a green collar. Additionally, they each have an animal chew toy - Clover has a [[duck]] and Snoopy had a [[Megagi La Skunk|skunk]]. Barbara claimed in the [[Rental House Tour]] audio that the dogs were part fox, though this is incredibly unlikely – no authenticated hybrids between domestic dogs and foxes exist. | ||
Snoopy, who officially | Snoopy, who officially belonged to Barbara, was named after the dog from ''[[Peanuts]]'', who was also a beagle. Even though Snoopy was her dog, Chris was listed as the person responsible for not getting proper checks and licenses for both dogs, according to legal records from 2016. | ||
Clover is named after the character from the show ''[[My Little Pony]] Tales''.<ref>[[Catie Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref> | |||
==Poor Living Conditions and Neglect== | ==Poor Living Conditions and Neglect== | ||
{{quote|It’s, it’s awfully inconvenient to take them outside and have to pick it up. I’d rather have it inside, to pick it up. I’m 72 years old, and I don’t...|Barbara on why the dogs relieve themselves inside the house.<ref name=rht>[[Rental House Tour]]</ref>}} | |||
[[File:A few seconds of Barb dancing.png|In the background is one of the newspaper spots where the Chandler dogs relieve themselves. Pictured in April 2018, in the doorway of the [[kitchen]].|thumb|200px]] | [[File:A few seconds of Barb dancing.png|In the background is one of the newspaper spots where the Chandler dogs relieve themselves. Pictured in April 2018, in the doorway of the [[kitchen]].|thumb|200px]] | ||
Chris and Barbara got Clover and Snoopy from a puppy mill, which are known for breeding dogs solely for profit with no regard to living conditions or proper care, showing a disregard for the animals' welfare. This has been documented to be traumatizing for animals, causing social and behavioral issues down the line. | |||
On 6 [[August 2013]], Chris posted on Facebook a picture of dog urine on a newspaper.<ref>[[August 2013 Facebook Posts#One_of_my_pups_just_peed]]</ref> In [[December 2014]], a statement released by [[Catherine]] (who manipulated Chris into inviting her to the Chandler's [[Rental House]]) confirmed that the dogs are not house-trained, are aggressive towards strangers, and are severely [[obese]]. This was especially apparent in a series of photos released in [[November 2015]]. The dogs were still relieving themselves on newspaper in April 2018, evidenced when Chris filmed a paid request video which showed a newspaper with dog shit on it in the background.<ref>[[April 2018 Paid Video Requests#A few seconds of Barb dancing]]</ref> | |||
[[ | In the [[Rental House Tour]], Barbara can be heard attempting to justify her gross neglect of the dogs by complaining about how she's too old to take them out to relieve themselves (despite having only gotten the dogs two years prior). A hole in the fence in the backyard, which the Chandlers never bothered to fix, also may have contributed to Barbara's decision to let their dogs piss and shit on the newspapers within the home. Barbara was very likely only being defensive about her neglect, as alternative methods of potty-training dogs whose owners genuinely cannot take them outside could easily have been used such as litter boxes. | ||
When Chris reflected on Snoopy's life, he noted that he'd regularly sleep on the couch with the puppies until January 2014. They also would regularly play in a "mountain of clothes" from Barbara's hoard from which Snoopy fell and injured his left back leg, an injury which he would never fully recover from, making it difficult to traverse stairs. Chris also admitted that he and Barbara could have walked the dogs more often, using Snoopy's leg condition as an excuse for why they had not.<ref name=eulogy></ref> | |||
[[File:Snoopy, 7 December 2018.jpg|An overweight Snoopy, pictured in December 2018. Note the premature greying around his chin, which is sometimes taken as a sign of living in an uncomfortable and [[Chris and stress|stressful]] environment, and the overly-long nails.|thumb|left|200px]] | |||
When faced with a situation where he wanted to go on a date, but Barbara was not home to watch the dogs, Chris's proposed solution was to take the dogs with him, then leave them in the car, though Barbara turned up last minute and was able to watch the dogs.<ref>[[Catherine#The bowling outing]]</ref> Catherine also stated that the dogs are so terribly taken care of that they can't even be left at home by themselves without destroying all the furniture. | |||
In [[August 2016]], Chris was | Chris also mentioned to Catherine that he has fed the dogs chicken noodle soup,<ref name=rht></ref> which can cause sodium ion poisoning if fed from canned soup with high sodium amounts.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201210125623/https://canigivemydog.com/chicken-noodle-soup</ref> | ||
In the [[Rental House Tour]], Chris is heard cooing and babbling over the dogs. | |||
In [[August 2016]], even though Barbara and Chris both look after the dogs, only Chris was slapped with two (more) misdemeanors on his record, as a result of the Chandlers failing to acquire proper licenses and rabies checks for the dogs, marking the first time the authorities have gotten involved because of the Chandlers' neglect of their pets. | |||
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[[File:Clover, 7 December 2018.jpg|Clover, also overweight and pictured in December 2018.|thumb|left|200px]] | |||
In 2020, Clover and Snoopy were both heard barking loudly and getting overexcited when pizza deliveries summoned by [[weens]] appeared at the door while [[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2|Chris tried reading fanfiction in a livestream]]. Chris notably yelled "SHUT UP!" at them with a noticeable degree of venom in his voice, before they whimpered and presumably recoiled in fear. Due to happening offscreen, it's unclear if Chris did anything besides scream at his pets to prompt that response, although [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy|later footage of the dogs]] indicate that this kind of whimpering happens when they're approached in general, as Chris was shown speaking in a high-pitched "cute" voice when inviting some guests in. | |||
==Stealing a Neighbor's Dog== | ==Stealing a Neighbor's Dog== | ||
According to [[ | According to [[Kim Wilson]], Barbara and Chris once tried to steal a neighbor's dog which had been wandering loose. They eventually gave it back when its owner showed up at their door.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/newold-content-part-2.23995/page-27#post-1759719</ref> | ||
{{quotebox|I don't think I have emails regarding that, but if anyone needs the rundown...a neighbor's dog slipped out of their collar while tied up outside and went wandering around the neighborhood. I'm assuming it was more Barb's idea, but she decided she wanted to keep it so instead of doing the right thing and asking around first. They bought it a collar and a couple of other supplies. Lo and behold, the neighbor goes looking for their dog and winds up at the Chandler's. From what I remember, they put up a fight to keep the dog and blamed the neighbor for being irresponsible. Basically, finders keepers. Neighbor still got their dog back. But Chris couldn't comprehend why it was wrong for them to try and keep the dog. I wonder if this is (part) of the reason they keep their own dogs locked up inside, a fear of repercussion from trying to steal someone else's dog.}} | |||
==Snoopy's Death== | |||
Snoopy passed away in July 2021 in his sleep,<ref name=snoopydeath></ref> at nine years of age; not young, but still shy of a small breed's usual lifespan of 12-15 years. Shortly after his demise, Chris took to social media to offer a eulogy, not unlike the one he gave [[Patti Chandler]] so many years ago, recalling when he and Barbara had acquired Snoopy and Clover and memories of Snoopy, describing Snoopy as caring, understanding and smart. Chris explained that he and a neighbor buried the dog by a tree, making a stone mound around where the body lay as a marker for the pooch and that he was saddened by the dog's death. | |||
Chris resorted to his usual [[Chris and coping|coping mechanism]] of the [[Dimensional Merge]] to help him deal with Snoopy's death, which he mentioned in the eulogy as well. He believes that Snoopy was aware of the Merge and imagined that he saw Snoopy merge with his anthropomorphized version in [[Dimensions#C-197|Dimension C-197]] - becoming a "tall dog guy" that was taller than Patti-Chan - and noted that he could feel solace and comfort knowing Snoopy could better help with the Merge.<ref name=eulogy></ref> | |||
Chris resumed his usual social media habits a day after the dog's passing, though he still mentioned feeling sad about Snoopy in the days afterward. Aside from sharing a few fan tributes to "Snoopy-Doo", Chris fully resumed business as usual later in the month. | |||
==After Chris's arrest== | |||
Following the [[Affair with Mother|incest]] bombshell, with both Chris and Barb being separated from [[14 Branchland Court]] as a result, Clover and the other surviving Chandler household pets were taken care of by a neighbor.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris's final messages]]</ref> Unfortunately, Clover and the other pets of the Chandler family were returned to Barb's <strike>neglect</strike> care following her return to the house. Clover can be heard crying for help in the video of some weens [[Fan_visits#Barb_Visit|visiting Barb]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cd_VfIhRBg</ref> | |||
It was confirmed during the [[March_2024_livestreams#Christ_Chan_Live_Stream:_Over_the_Shoulder_Colouring_and_Drawing_2| Over the Shoulder Colouring and Drawing 2]] livestream that Barb has been taking care of Clover and "all the cats there". | |||
==Gallery== | ==Gallery== | ||
<center> | <center> | ||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Mikmmp.jpg|"Snoopy has a hat on his tush, and Clover is looking at the camera." | |||
Dogs 1.jpg|Clover in a picture on [[Facebook]] | |||
Dogs 2.jpg|Another Facebook picture, with Chris looking extremely fat. | |||
Dogs 3.jpg|Clover again. | |||
Twitter20June201301.png|Clover and Snoopy in a picture on [[Twitter]] from 20 [[June 2013]]. | |||
ChrisPupsPeed.png|"One of my pups just peed, and look how it came out. Shaped like a girl." | |||
SnoopyDoobieDoo.png|[[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and Snoopy. | |||
DogsA.jpg|First in a series of old photos leaked in [[October 2015]]. | |||
DogsB.jpg|These were presumably taken in 2012. | |||
DogsC.jpg|Chris posted this photo on his [[Manchester High School]] alumni site page. | |||
DogsD.jpg | |||
DogsE.jpg|Both dogs. | |||
DogsF.jpg|Clover, based on the collar color. | |||
DogsG.jpg | |||
DogsH.jpg | |||
DogsI.jpg | |||
DogsJ.jpg|Very obese. | |||
Cloversnoopy tweet.jpeg|Date unknown. Chris tweeted it in March 2017. | |||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
</center> | </center> |
Latest revision as of 17:55, 28 April 2024
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Names | Clover Snoopy |
Nicknames | Snoopy-Doo (Snoopy) |
Date of birth | March 2012 |
Date of death | 15 July 2021 (Snoopy) |
Gender | Female (Clover) Male (Snoopy) |
Breed | Beagle |
Owners | Barbara Chris |
Clover (b. circa March 2012[1]) is the Chandlers' beagle. Snoopy (March 2012 - 15 July 2021) was her brother.[2][3] The Chandlers bought them at a puppy mill in Fredericksburg on 13 May 2012.
The idea of getting beagles was originally Barbara's idea, and Chris eventually acquiesced. The CWC community learned of their existence on 1 August 2012, when a link to an entry of them Chris submitted to a local contest was posted on the CWCki Forums; Chris didn't win the contest.
According to one of Chris's Facebook posts, the dogs are siblings. Clover, Chris's dog, has a white mark on her snout, and Snoopy didn't. Clover has a pink collar, and Snoopy had a green collar. Additionally, they each have an animal chew toy - Clover has a duck and Snoopy had a skunk. Barbara claimed in the Rental House Tour audio that the dogs were part fox, though this is incredibly unlikely – no authenticated hybrids between domestic dogs and foxes exist.
Snoopy, who officially belonged to Barbara, was named after the dog from Peanuts, who was also a beagle. Even though Snoopy was her dog, Chris was listed as the person responsible for not getting proper checks and licenses for both dogs, according to legal records from 2016.
Clover is named after the character from the show My Little Pony Tales.[4]
Poor Living Conditions and Neglect
“ | It’s, it’s awfully inconvenient to take them outside and have to pick it up. I’d rather have it inside, to pick it up. I’m 72 years old, and I don’t... | ” |
Barbara on why the dogs relieve themselves inside the house.[5] |
Chris and Barbara got Clover and Snoopy from a puppy mill, which are known for breeding dogs solely for profit with no regard to living conditions or proper care, showing a disregard for the animals' welfare. This has been documented to be traumatizing for animals, causing social and behavioral issues down the line.
On 6 August 2013, Chris posted on Facebook a picture of dog urine on a newspaper.[6] In December 2014, a statement released by Catherine (who manipulated Chris into inviting her to the Chandler's Rental House) confirmed that the dogs are not house-trained, are aggressive towards strangers, and are severely obese. This was especially apparent in a series of photos released in November 2015. The dogs were still relieving themselves on newspaper in April 2018, evidenced when Chris filmed a paid request video which showed a newspaper with dog shit on it in the background.[7]
In the Rental House Tour, Barbara can be heard attempting to justify her gross neglect of the dogs by complaining about how she's too old to take them out to relieve themselves (despite having only gotten the dogs two years prior). A hole in the fence in the backyard, which the Chandlers never bothered to fix, also may have contributed to Barbara's decision to let their dogs piss and shit on the newspapers within the home. Barbara was very likely only being defensive about her neglect, as alternative methods of potty-training dogs whose owners genuinely cannot take them outside could easily have been used such as litter boxes.
When Chris reflected on Snoopy's life, he noted that he'd regularly sleep on the couch with the puppies until January 2014. They also would regularly play in a "mountain of clothes" from Barbara's hoard from which Snoopy fell and injured his left back leg, an injury which he would never fully recover from, making it difficult to traverse stairs. Chris also admitted that he and Barbara could have walked the dogs more often, using Snoopy's leg condition as an excuse for why they had not.[3]
When faced with a situation where he wanted to go on a date, but Barbara was not home to watch the dogs, Chris's proposed solution was to take the dogs with him, then leave them in the car, though Barbara turned up last minute and was able to watch the dogs.[8] Catherine also stated that the dogs are so terribly taken care of that they can't even be left at home by themselves without destroying all the furniture.
Chris also mentioned to Catherine that he has fed the dogs chicken noodle soup,[5] which can cause sodium ion poisoning if fed from canned soup with high sodium amounts.[9]
In the Rental House Tour, Chris is heard cooing and babbling over the dogs.
In August 2016, even though Barbara and Chris both look after the dogs, only Chris was slapped with two (more) misdemeanors on his record, as a result of the Chandlers failing to acquire proper licenses and rabies checks for the dogs, marking the first time the authorities have gotten involved because of the Chandlers' neglect of their pets.
In 2020, Clover and Snoopy were both heard barking loudly and getting overexcited when pizza deliveries summoned by weens appeared at the door while Chris tried reading fanfiction in a livestream. Chris notably yelled "SHUT UP!" at them with a noticeable degree of venom in his voice, before they whimpered and presumably recoiled in fear. Due to happening offscreen, it's unclear if Chris did anything besides scream at his pets to prompt that response, although later footage of the dogs indicate that this kind of whimpering happens when they're approached in general, as Chris was shown speaking in a high-pitched "cute" voice when inviting some guests in.
Stealing a Neighbor's Dog
According to Kim Wilson, Barbara and Chris once tried to steal a neighbor's dog which had been wandering loose. They eventually gave it back when its owner showed up at their door.[10]
I don't think I have emails regarding that, but if anyone needs the rundown...a neighbor's dog slipped out of their collar while tied up outside and went wandering around the neighborhood. I'm assuming it was more Barb's idea, but she decided she wanted to keep it so instead of doing the right thing and asking around first. They bought it a collar and a couple of other supplies. Lo and behold, the neighbor goes looking for their dog and winds up at the Chandler's. From what I remember, they put up a fight to keep the dog and blamed the neighbor for being irresponsible. Basically, finders keepers. Neighbor still got their dog back. But Chris couldn't comprehend why it was wrong for them to try and keep the dog. I wonder if this is (part) of the reason they keep their own dogs locked up inside, a fear of repercussion from trying to steal someone else's dog. |
Snoopy's Death
Snoopy passed away in July 2021 in his sleep,[2] at nine years of age; not young, but still shy of a small breed's usual lifespan of 12-15 years. Shortly after his demise, Chris took to social media to offer a eulogy, not unlike the one he gave Patti Chandler so many years ago, recalling when he and Barbara had acquired Snoopy and Clover and memories of Snoopy, describing Snoopy as caring, understanding and smart. Chris explained that he and a neighbor buried the dog by a tree, making a stone mound around where the body lay as a marker for the pooch and that he was saddened by the dog's death.
Chris resorted to his usual coping mechanism of the Dimensional Merge to help him deal with Snoopy's death, which he mentioned in the eulogy as well. He believes that Snoopy was aware of the Merge and imagined that he saw Snoopy merge with his anthropomorphized version in Dimension C-197 - becoming a "tall dog guy" that was taller than Patti-Chan - and noted that he could feel solace and comfort knowing Snoopy could better help with the Merge.[3]
Chris resumed his usual social media habits a day after the dog's passing, though he still mentioned feeling sad about Snoopy in the days afterward. Aside from sharing a few fan tributes to "Snoopy-Doo", Chris fully resumed business as usual later in the month.
After Chris's arrest
Following the incest bombshell, with both Chris and Barb being separated from 14 Branchland Court as a result, Clover and the other surviving Chandler household pets were taken care of by a neighbor.[11] Unfortunately, Clover and the other pets of the Chandler family were returned to Barb's neglect care following her return to the house. Clover can be heard crying for help in the video of some weens visiting Barb.[12]
It was confirmed during the Over the Shoulder Colouring and Drawing 2 livestream that Barb has been taking care of Clover and "all the cats there".
Gallery
Clover in a picture on Facebook
Barb and Snoopy.
First in a series of old photos leaked in October 2015.
Chris posted this photo on his Manchester High School alumni site page.
References
- ↑ According to their entry, they were three months old when Chris entered them into the contest. Since registration to the contest began on 16 July 2012 (see contest rules) and they were registered no later than 1 August, this would mean they were born sometime between March and May. Chris has stated that Snoopy was born in March, meaning that Clover could have been born at or around the same time.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/snoopy-has-died.95170/
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 July 2021 social media posts#Eulogy for Snoopy
- ↑ Catie Date Conversation Transcript
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 Rental House Tour
- ↑ August 2013 Facebook Posts#One_of_my_pups_just_peed
- ↑ April 2018 Paid Video Requests#A few seconds of Barb dancing
- ↑ Catherine#The bowling outing
- ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20201210125623/https://canigivemydog.com/chicken-noodle-soup
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/newold-content-part-2.23995/page-27#post-1759719
- ↑ WCT DMs#Chris's final messages
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cd_VfIhRBg
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