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===Conflicts with Praetor===
===Conflicts with Praetor===


The earliest Chris has been known to discus [[Praetor]] with Naught was on 14 October 2020, where he discusses their interpretation of his [[Disc Dream]], and mentions their plans of him doing a [[Goochland Library Sermon|sermon at the Goochland Public Library]]. Naught replied to the video plans with "Are you sure you're comfortable with doing a video? And was this cadens idea?".
The earliest Chris has been known to discus [[Praetor]] with Naught was on 14 October 2020, where he discusses their interpretation of his [[Disc Dream]], and mentions their plans of him doing a [[Goochland Library Sermon|sermon at the Goochland Public Library]]. Naught replied to the video plans with "Are you sure you're comfortable with doing a video? And was this cadens idea?". When Chris replies to being comfortable with doing the video, Naught had told Chris to be sure that doing so would be "mutually beneficial and reciprocal".


On [[February 2021]], Chris had stated to [[Kyle]] that he wished to open an inter-dimensional portal by shocking his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]]. Chris had decided that he could do this by asking Praetor for one of their tasers. He would also state the news to Naught. Afterwards, Naught posted Chris announcing this onto Kiwi Farms, while claiming that he was concerned that they were in on a "plot" involving [[Larry Vaughn]] which involves getting Chris to tase himself.  
On [[February 2021]], Chris had stated to [[Kyle]] that he wished to open an inter-dimensional portal by shocking his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]]. Chris had decided that he could do this by asking Praetor for one of their tasers. He would also state the news to Naught. Afterwards, Naught posted Chris announcing this onto Kiwi Farms, while claiming that he was concerned that they were in on a "plot" involving [[Larry Vaughn]] which involves getting Chris to tase himself.  

Revision as of 09:58, 23 July 2022

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Note on Credibility:

Naught has been deemed to be an unreliable narrator for the following reasons:
Naught is a habitual liar and gives contradictory statements.[note 1]
Naught will often put his own spin on events that happened, embellish them, or try to demonize people he's interacted with, sometimes leaving out important context.[note 2]
Naught appears to take advantage of his presumed allies, encourages infighting between them, and throws them under the bus when it is most convenient for him.[note 3]
Bear this in mind, and use healthy skepticism when taking statements from the subject being discussed.

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Note on Sockpuppets:

Naught has been known to use sockpuppet accounts. Since it is difficult to discern their sock accounts, it is best to avoid speculating an account belongs to Naught unless fully verified.

i curb weens and alogs
Naught on his duties as a Watchman, [1]
I mean that we're some impossibly retarded surrogate family.

Bis is the cool uncle.

Kyle on the Watchmen.[2]


Naught
Information
Name Naught
Also known as Bismuth
CPU Bismuth Heart
tabula rasa[3]
anameisaname
death of chans
Nightmare
WCT Hate[4]
Ihasnoname
noot
snafu
-[5]
ภคยﻮђՇ[6]
W.T.snacks[7]
Archivist
NEET Samurai
Anime Kid With Goggles
Gender Male
Known for • Being the original Lainchu
• Being the second and most prominent leader of the Watchmen
• Inviting Chris into the Discord Server for the CWCki
• Spreading rumors about various Chris orbiters, including members in his own group
Occupation Leader of the Watchmen (former)
Administrator of the Onion Farms
Organization Watchmen (former leader)
Saga Secret Shipfic, Watchmen, Praetor

Naught, also known as Bismuth, and plenty of other pseudonyms, was the second and most prominent leader of the Watchmen, taking over the group after Owls left,[8] and in June 2021 was succeeded by The WCT. As a Watchman, Naught monitored and doxed and/or threatened to dox potential weens or outside enablers, and has kept records on Chris's TSSSF cards and his comics.

Naught went by many usernames - he used "Bismuth" to Chris and used multiple aliases in public postings. While he was in the CWCki Discord server, he often used an emoticon of a heart. For the Kiwi Farms, he went by names/accounts including "anameisaname", "death of chans"[note 4], and "Nightmare"[4] - he was eventually banned from the forum for use of multiple sockpuppet accounts, advertising, and liking his own posts with sock accounts, and giving negative ratings to accounts that disagreed with them.[9][public source needed]

Naught, along with MKRNightVee, The WCT, and Kyle, would spread rumors about Praetor members wanting to get Chris to tase himself, which had upset Chris, and resulting in him calling them out for it. Chris had finallly cut contact with Naught in June 2021 citing Naught's toxic behavior in doxing fellow Watchman The WCT[10][11] which Naught would eventually publicly admit he had done because WCT had declined to share his Kiwi Farms account with him.[12][13]

Online Prescence

According to a thread created on Naught on the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org, before becoming an ardent white knight of Chris's, Naught was initially one of Chris's lesser trolls. Naught has been rumored to have initially been a lesser member of the Miscreants, as it is speculated that his voice could be faintly heard in the second half of Mumble 9.[4] The thread had also claimed that Naught had stated regret for trolling Chris in private, though the circumstances at which this happened and/or the private messages themselves are undisclosed, and had been a white knight of Chris's since the mid 2010s.

Interactions with Chris

Avatar of CPU Bismuth Heart.

Chris stated that Naught began interacting with him during the Sockness saga in late 2019 after approaching him when Chris was creating an expansion pack for lore provided to him by MKRNightVee and Jacob.[14] Naught would roleplay with Chris as the CPU Goddess, Vee, CPU Bismuth Heart, the CPU goddess of the children's educational game console, the V-Smile.

In most conversations between Chris and Naught, Chris had spoken to him about his dreams and delusions. When Chris created a video where he discusses plans to create a will, Chris had shared the video with Naught in a Google Drive on 6 August 2020, and told him not to leak the video. After this, Naught was concerned about the morose implications of the video, and created a CWCki account, Ihasnoname, where he created a page to leak the video on. Naught had also provided commentary on a number of transcribed DMs between him and Chris.

In September 2020, Chris had accidentally doxed 23 of his paying customers when they bought merchandise from him after sending payment information to Naught, to which Naught would post the orders including the doxes on the second layer of The Place server, where he had posted pdfs of the Sonichu comics up to Sonichu #13 and a Google Drive of all of Chris's TSSSF cards.[15]

Naught claimed to having been the original player of the Lainchu character, though he also claims that he passed off the role for "reasons he can't recall".[16]

Naught would also encourage Chris to go onto the Official CWCki Discord server in August 2020, roughly a month after the server's creation.

Late in February 2021, Naught had discussed plans with MKRNightVee to get Chris to interact with the lolcow Alexander Gordon Jahans, whom both Naught and MKR had interest in, though no signs of them interacting ever came.

Chris used Tarot readings to divine Naught's future in April 2021.[17]

As a Watchman

I doxed Sean since he asked me to use his Logan account on kiwi farms, and I said no.

Yet, when I was banned from kiwi farms he said no, so i doxed him it didn't help he kept blaming me for striking his video's as he worked with lolcow.org to make a thread on me.

An actual edit from Naught, admitting to have doxed The WCT.[13]
Naught threatening to "curb" a Discord user.

Naught became the leader of the Watchmen, following Owls resigning the role. He would then become an admin of the Watchmen server The Place.

When they have heard that Chris was a membmer of her server, Naught, along with several other Watchmen members had raided Midnight Moonflower's Discord server to cut contacts between her and Chris, under the belief that she was a ween, and warning them that they may get doxed due to their association with Chris, while also telling them about his duty to "curb weens and alogs", and that they could potentially get a CWCki page or Kiwi Farms thread.[18]

Conflicts with Praetor

The earliest Chris has been known to discus Praetor with Naught was on 14 October 2020, where he discusses their interpretation of his Disc Dream, and mentions their plans of him doing a sermon at the Goochland Public Library. Naught replied to the video plans with "Are you sure you're comfortable with doing a video? And was this cadens idea?". When Chris replies to being comfortable with doing the video, Naught had told Chris to be sure that doing so would be "mutually beneficial and reciprocal".

On February 2021, Chris had stated to Kyle that he wished to open an inter-dimensional portal by shocking his Gate Crystal and Celestial Key. Chris had decided that he could do this by asking Praetor for one of their tasers. He would also state the news to Naught. Afterwards, Naught posted Chris announcing this onto Kiwi Farms, while claiming that he was concerned that they were in on a "plot" involving Larry Vaughn which involves getting Chris to tase himself.

Despite these allegations, Chris had tried to claim that obtaining a taser was his idea, and that he had requested people at Praetor to send one of their tasers to him. Naught had decided to get himself and other Watchmen in a call with the Praetor leader Caden Peck, to which Naught posted a heavily edited version of the call to the Kiwi Farms. After this, Chris had chastised Naught and other Watchmen members for the way that they had treated Praetor.

Doxing of The WCT

In June 2021, conflict arose between Naught and fellow Watchman The WCT, stemming from an allegation Naught had doxed the latter.[4] Following a Lolcow.org thread on the ex-member of the group, an audio voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”[19] suggested that Chris sided against Naught in the dispute.

On 20 July 2021, The WCT collaborated with Bella in an attempt to dox Naught back.[20] Naught had joined the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org under a VPN and under an account with the screen name "WCT Hate", whose sole purpose was to dox The WCT. Naught had later admitted to doxing The WCT on 29 November 2021 via an edit on his page.[13]

Involvement with Halal Server

Yeah, we dont want people to know we have Naught and MKR here
Halal Server member Sakura Blossom on concealing Naught's involvement in the server.[21]

Naught was invited to the Halal Server, a Discord group for speculating about Bella and others who orbited Chris following the leak of the Incest Call. He used the pseudonym W.T.snacks while in the server.[7]

Involvement with Onion Farms

Naught and The WCT had frequented Kenneth Engelhardt's website, Onion Farms, and eventually become an admin of the website, which, according to Naught, was a result of the creation of the Watchmen article.[4] He primarily responded to some of Kenneth's posts regarding letters he received from Chris while he was in jail and posted on threads about Chris's orbiters.

On 29 January 2022, Naught indicated some degree of willingness to regain contact with Chris, asking Kenneth to "Tell CWC I said hi" and adding that "CWC knows me as bismuth," to which Kengle gave an okay.[22] Whether Naught or Kenneth moved ahead with the contact is unknown as Kenneth and Chris temporarily cut ties shortly afterwards.

On the Onion Farms, Naught had also created a number of threads on people associated with Chris, such as The WCT and Geno Samuel.

Interviews

Origins

Guard Dog Marvin disagrees with a claim made by Naught.

The following is a conversation between a Christorian and Naught via Discord; the users are color-coded red and green, respectively. The interview was originally placed on the Watchmen CWCki page but was later removed due to uncorroborated statements made by Naught[23] and is now archived on this page.

Naught claimed that some members of the Watchmen had been operating since 2018, as the spiritual successor to the Guard Dogs – the latter having disbanded around the same time frame. However, Naught's account was disputed by a member of the Guard Dogs.

Naught also claimed that Watchmen members MKRNightVee and Aqua were picked by Null. However, MKRNightVee got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number for her[24] and Aqua joined during the Sockness saga by which time Null had been distant from Chris.

Discord conversation on the Watchmen origins
I had a question in my head, if its fine for me to ask, could you tell me how exactly you guys met CWC and when you formed the group

Naught quoted a now-deleted section from the Guard Dogs CWCki article:

Following the incidents at TooManyGames, in which Chris was thrown out of the con for being too handsy with other attendees, Null and several other members of the Guard Dogs began investigating Justin Silverman's account of the situation, intending to find out if Justin had overreacted towards Chris's behaviour. Ultimately, this investigation petered out with no real progress having been made, save for the fact that the Guard Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at any conventions he visited from then on.
Oh, so you guys were picked by Null
Yeah that's why Marvin is there since the captain couldn't stick around but the plan is still the same
Ah, so the captain was in there too but left after a while
Yeah mkr helped get the cwc protect squad out of the way with the fan art for cwc

History

On 4 September 2020, a Christorian interviewed Naught through Discord, asking questions about the Watchmen. The interviewer's questions are color-coded red, with Naught's responses color-coded green.

Discord conversation on the Watchmen history
The first four questions appear to be referring to the Arbitarch CWC Alliance server.
Who started it and why?
Owls the guy who set-up mkr and Joseph Draft got aqua and mkr to draw some art to lure cwc in.
How did Chris join there?
I was told it was going to be for Chris's patrons.
Why was it killed?
It was killed because owls and Joseph didn't know how to wrangle tards. Mkr aqua were being blamed for making it so I asked for a mod role kept asking for more perms and deleted all the channel's. I posted the rolling and trolling vid.
Who killed it?
I killed it, Joseph and Smokey Chris TheSperge were using the server to gather content, they convinced Joseph I was Johan.

After a 4 hour conversation I got Joseph draft to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet.

The last two appear to refer to the Watchmen as a group.

Why did Aqua leave?
Stress and people @ her on Twitter

Her and mkr are still frens

Will this group be around forever?
As long as Chris is in need or willing yes

Follow-up on Origins

Naught was asked to clarify the Watchmen's origins. In a prior interview, Naught had claimed the Watchmen to have been working with the Guard Dogs to supervise Chris at conventions, however a Guard Dog disagreed with the claim. Naught blamed Watchmen founder Owls, claiming the story was what he had been told by Owls.

Discord conversation on follow-up to Watchmen origins
Are you the one the CWCki calls Naught?

Wanted to ask something clarifying the Watchmen origins if so. There's conflicting statements.

Yes
So you quoted the Guard Dogs article to explain the group origins - a section that said the Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at cons after the TMG disaster. But the editor who put that in since retracted it for lack of source and Marvin said there were no babysitters and that Chris was on his own.
Yeah that's what owls/Ryan told me

He's no longer around he's ghostbird on the farm's

Hmm. Interesting.
That's why I'm around he wasn't reporting back to Marvin

There was something about the footage smokey chris and theSperge

Owl's was the original person behind the group?
He started the place server and was telling mkr and Marvin he was doing x y and z but wasn't
Alright if I quote you on on the CWCki? Gonna try to fix up the Origins section.
Ok

There was even a panel where he insisted his owl avatar in the comic

MKR's?
Yeah owls was the one making it canon mkr draws
Alright, thanks for the info.

See also

External Links

Notes

  1. Falsely claimed Watchmen members were appointed by the Guard Dogs group. Initially denied, then admitted to, doxing The WCT.
  2. Omitted key context from his leak of Taser Discussion. He also used a cropped out "you may also like" portion of an Etsy sale for a Sonichu medallion, claiming it to be on the Praetor etsy page.
  3. Has attempted to use at least two of his associate's Kiwi Farms accounts, and doxed the WCT after they declined him using it. The dox would lead to significant infighting between him and Naught.
  4. The Watchmen member Spunky claims that the Kiwi Farms account under this name used to belong to her under the name "thetarotreader96", to which she granted Naught's permission to use. Afterwards, Naught would use the account for his own purposes, having it renamed to "death of chans".

References

  1. Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raid
  2. March 2021 Watchmen leaks
  3. File:Naught-CWC-7Sept20 - Handle shipments6.jpg
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 OP of Naught's lolcow.org thread (archive)
  5. In The Place chats - Psychic Detective, Chris chats with - and calls him by his Bismuth alias.
  6. Naught DMs#Fulfill the orders
  7. 7.0 7.1 Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms See "Halal - Watchmen - silvia-spunk-emily-spruill-silverangel [873480191501017089" channel at 07-Aug-21 07:43 AM timestamp
  8. Naught#Follow-up on Origins
  9. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/corbindallasmultipass-memorial-thread.30974/post-9227018
  10. June 2021 Watchmen calls
  11. MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place
  12. File:Naught on WCT dox.png
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 Archive of the edit
  14. WCT DMs#Nauht and Geno
  15. The American Hedgehog. Thread #49854 (Message #12466646). Kiwi Farms.
  16. The Place chats (March 2021)#Rejection of the Fourth Lainchu
  17. File:TarotDivinationNaught.jpg
  18. Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raids
  19. June 2021 Watchmen calls (Clip form, hosted at lolcow.org)
  20. Chess Group 15 Chats#Watchmen Treason
  21. Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms. See Halal - General - halal-general [873250859369250879].html at 10-Aug-21 04:46 PM timestamp
  22. https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/cwc-letter-january-29-2022-pissed-off-over-some-of-the-fan-art-she-has-two-mothers-buckle-up-its-a-wild-ride.2147/post-33036 / https://archive.ph/4uyxz
  23. https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Watchmen&type=revision&diff=252258&oldid=252227
  24. https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/
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The Players

Organizations: Watchmen (The Sons of the MiscreantsArbitarch CWC AllianceThe PlaceThe Knights of CWC) • Halal Server
People: ChrisWatchmen members (The WCTMKRNightVeeNaughtAnaxisKyleOwls) • Caden PeckJacob SocknessJoseph DraftMidnight MoonflowerKaiDillin ThomasGiBiBen SaintLarry VaughnIsabella JankeFiona


Watchmen Chats: General • Solo Members (AnaxisAquaDiamond8KyleMKRNightVeeNaughtSpunkyThe WCT)

Enabling and Delusions: Sexual Frustration: Targeted Orbiters: Handling of Incest Drama:

Coinciding Sagas
Jacob, Secret Shipfic, Praetor, Incest


    People