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{{Unreliable|type=cred|Naught is a habitual liar and gives contradictory statements.{{refn|group="note"|Falsely claimed [[Watchmen]] members were appointed by the [[Guard Dogs]] group. Initially denied, then admitted to, doxing [[The WCT]].}}|Naught will often put his own spin on events that happened, embellish them, or try to demonize people he's interacted with, sometimes leaving out important context.{{refn|group="note"|Omitted key context from his leak of [[Taser Discussion]]. He also used a [[:File:PraetorSample.jpg|cropped out]] "you may also like" portion of an Etsy sale for a Sonichu medallion, claiming it to be on the Praetor etsy page.}}|Naught appears to take advantage of his presumed allies, encourages infighting between them, and throws them under the bus when it is most convenient for him.<ref group = note>Has attempted to use at least two of his associate's Kiwi Farms accounts, and doxed the WCT after they declined him using it. The dox would lead to significant infighting between him and Naught.</ref>}} | {{Unreliable|type=cred|Naught is a habitual liar and gives contradictory statements.{{refn|group="note"|Falsely claimed [[Watchmen]] members were appointed by the [[Guard Dogs]] group. Initially denied, then admitted to, doxing [[The WCT]].}}|Naught will often put his own spin on events that happened, embellish them, or try to demonize people he's interacted with, sometimes leaving out important context.{{refn|group="note"|Omitted key context from his leak of [[Taser Discussion]]. He also used a [[:File:PraetorSample.jpg|cropped out]] "you may also like" portion of an Etsy sale for a Sonichu medallion, claiming it to be on the Praetor etsy page.}}|Naught appears to take advantage of his presumed allies, encourages infighting between them, and throws them under the bus when it is most convenient for him.<ref group = note>Has attempted to use at least two of his associate's Kiwi Farms accounts, and doxed the WCT after they declined him using it. The dox would lead to significant infighting between him and Naught.</ref>}} | ||
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{{quote|I mean that we're some impossibly retarded surrogate family. | {{quote|I mean that we're some impossibly retarded surrogate family. | ||
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==As a Watchman== | ==As a Watchman== | ||
{{quote| | {{quote|i curb weens and alogs|Naught on his duties as a Watchman|<ref>[[Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raid]]</ref>}} | ||
[[File:Naught'sPowerFantasy.jpg|thumb|Naught threatening to "curb" a Discord user.]] | [[File:Naught'sPowerFantasy.jpg|thumb|Naught threatening to "curb" a Discord user.]] | ||
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===Doxing of The WCT=== | ===Doxing of The WCT=== | ||
{{quote|I doxed Sean since he asked me to use his Logan account on kiwi farms, and I said no. | |||
Yet, when I was banned from kiwi farms he said no, so i doxed him it didn't help he kept blaming me for striking his video's as he worked with lolcow.org to make a thread on me.|An actual edit from Naught, admitting to have doxed The WCT.<ref name=naughtedit></ref>}} | |||
In [[June 2021]], The WCT had been doxed on Kiwi Farms by a Kiwi Farms account named Nightmare. An account on the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org had also joined under a VPN under the screen name '''"WCT Hate"''', whose sole purpose was to dox The WCT. Signs pointed to fellow Watchman and group leader Naught as the person behind both of the accounts.<ref name = naughtthread></ref> | In [[June 2021]], The WCT had been doxed on Kiwi Farms by a Kiwi Farms account named Nightmare. An account on the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org had also joined under a VPN under the screen name '''"WCT Hate"''', whose sole purpose was to dox The WCT. Signs pointed to fellow Watchman and group leader Naught as the person behind both of the accounts.<ref name = naughtthread></ref> |
Revision as of 10:00, 23 July 2022
Note on Credibility:
Naught has been deemed to be an unreliable narrator for the following reasons: |
“ | I mean that we're some impossibly retarded surrogate family.
Bis is the cool uncle. |
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Kyle on the Watchmen.[1] |
Naught | |
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Name | Naught |
Also known as | Bismuth CPU Bismuth Heart nitto tabula rasa[2] anameisaname death of chans Nightmare WCT Hate[3] Ihasnoname noot snafu -[4] ภคยﻮђՇ[5] W.T.snacks[6] Archivist NEET Samurai Anime Kid With Goggles |
Gender | Male |
Known for | • Being the original Lainchu • Being the second and most prominent leader of the Watchmen • Inviting Chris into the Discord Server for the CWCki • Spreading rumors about various Chris orbiters, including members in his own group |
Occupation | Leader of the Watchmen (former) Administrator of the Onion Farms |
Organization | Watchmen (former leader) |
Saga | Secret Shipfic, Watchmen, Praetor |
Naught, also known as Bismuth, and plenty of other pseudonyms, was the second and most prominent leader of the Watchmen, taking over the group after Owls left,[7] and in June 2021 was succeeded by The WCT. As a Watchman, Naught monitored and doxed and/or threatened to dox potential weens or outside enablers, and has kept records on Chris's TSSSF cards and his comics.
Naught went by many usernames - he used "Bismuth" to Chris and used multiple aliases in public postings. While he was in the CWCki Discord server, he often used an emoticon of a heart. For the Kiwi Farms, he went by names/accounts including "anameisaname", "death of chans"[note 4], and "Nightmare"[3] - he was eventually banned from the forum for use of multiple sockpuppet accounts, advertising, and liking his own posts with sock accounts, and giving negative ratings to accounts that disagreed with them.[8][public source needed]
When Chris had discussed with both Kyle and Naught about using one of Praetor's tasers, Naught, along with MKRNightVee, The WCT, and Kyle, had confronted Caden Peck and would spread rumors about Praetor members wanting to get Chris to tase himself, which had upset Chris, and resulting in him calling them out for it.
Chris had finallly cut contact with Naught in June 2021 citing Naught's toxic behavior in doxing fellow Watchman The WCT[9][10] which Naught would eventually publicly admit he had done because WCT had declined to share his Kiwi Farms account with him.[11][12]
Online Prescence
According to a thread created on Naught on the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org, before becoming an ardent white knight of Chris's, Naught was initially one of Chris's lesser trolls. Naught has been rumored to have initially been a lesser member of the Miscreants, as it is speculated that his voice could be faintly heard in the second half of Mumble 9.[3] The thread had also claimed that Naught had stated regret for trolling Chris in private, though the circumstances at which this happened and/or the private messages themselves are undisclosed, and had been a white knight of Chris's since the mid 2010s.
Interactions with Chris
Chris stated that Naught began interacting with him during the Sockness saga in late 2019 after approaching him when Chris was creating an expansion pack for lore provided to him by MKRNightVee and Jacob.[13] Naught would roleplay with Chris as the CPU Goddess, Vee, CPU Bismuth Heart, the CPU goddess of the children's educational game console, the V-Smile.
In most conversations between Chris and Naught, Chris had spoken to him about his dreams and delusions. When Chris created a video where he discusses plans to create a will, Chris had shared the video with Naught in a Google Drive on 6 August 2020, and told him not to leak the video. After this, Naught was concerned about the morose implications of the video, and created a CWCki account, Ihasnoname, where he created a page to leak the video on. Naught had also provided commentary on a number of transcribed DMs between him and Chris.
In September 2020, Chris had accidentally doxed 23 of his paying customers when they bought merchandise from him after sending payment information to Naught, to which Naught would post the orders including the doxes on the second layer of The Place server, where he had posted pdfs of the Sonichu comics up to Sonichu #13 and a Google Drive of all of Chris's TSSSF cards.[14]
Naught claimed to having been the original player of the Lainchu character, though he also claims that he passed off the role for "reasons he can't recall".[15]
Naught would also encourage Chris to go onto the Official CWCki Discord server in August 2020, roughly a month after the server's creation.
Late in February 2021, Naught had discussed plans with MKRNightVee to get Chris to interact with the lolcow Alexander Gordon Jahans, whom both Naught and MKR had interest in, though no signs of them interacting ever came.
Chris used Tarot readings to divine Naught's future in April 2021.[16]
As a Watchman
“ | i curb weens and alogs | ” |
Naught on his duties as a Watchman, [17] |
Naught became the leader of the Watchmen, following Owls resigning the role. He would then become an admin of the Watchmen server The Place.
Midnight Moonflower
When they have heard that Chris was a membmer of her server, Naught, along with several other Watchmen members had raided Midnight Moonflower's Discord server to cut contacts between her and Chris, under the belief that she was a ween, and warning them that they may get doxed due to their association with Chris, while also telling them about his duty to "curb weens and alogs", and that they could potentially get a CWCki page or Kiwi Farms thread.[18]
Conflicts with Praetor
The earliest Chris has been known to discuss Praetor with Naught was on 14 October 2020, where he discusses their interpretation of his Disc Dream, and mentions their plans of him doing a sermon at the Goochland Public Library. Naught replied to the video plans with "Are you sure you're comfortable with doing a video? And was this cadens idea?". When Chris replies to being comfortable with doing the video, Naught had told Chris to be sure that doing so would be "mutually beneficial and reciprocal".[19]
On February 2021, Chris had stated to Kyle that he wished to open an inter-dimensional portal by shocking his Gate Crystal and Celestial Key. Chris had decided that he could do this by asking Praetor for one of their tasers. He would also state the news to Naught. Naught had then notified members of The Place about these plans, and gathered them up to confront the Praetors themselves.[20]
Afterwards, Naught posted Chris announcing this to him onto Kiwi Farms, while claiming that he was concerned that they were in on a "plot" involving Larry Vaughn which involves getting Chris to tase himself. In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected. The post had also included a voice chat which has been heavily edited to only include specific clips to frame Praetor members for this alleged plan.[21] In the clip, Val states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. Praetor member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea."
The Watchmen had then confronted Caden 3 days later, acussing him of wanting to get Chris to tase himself. Despite these allegations, Chris had tried to claim that obtaining a taser was his idea, and that he had requested people at Praetor to send one of their tasers to him. After this, Chris had chastised Naught and other Watchmen members for the way that they had treated Praetor.
Doxing of The WCT
“ | I doxed Sean since he asked me to use his Logan account on kiwi farms, and I said no.
Yet, when I was banned from kiwi farms he said no, so i doxed him it didn't help he kept blaming me for striking his video's as he worked with lolcow.org to make a thread on me. |
” |
An actual edit from Naught, admitting to have doxed The WCT.[12] |
In June 2021, The WCT had been doxed on Kiwi Farms by a Kiwi Farms account named Nightmare. An account on the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org had also joined under a VPN under the screen name "WCT Hate", whose sole purpose was to dox The WCT. Signs pointed to fellow Watchman and group leader Naught as the person behind both of the accounts.[3]
When The WCT confronted Naught in a voice chat during the group’s movie night on 21 June, Naught denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox The WCT in an attempt to silence him. Kyle and MKRNightVee took Bismuth’s side in the dispute.[22] From there, a conflict arose between Naught and The WCT.
Following a Lolcow.org thread on the ex-member of the group, an audio voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”[23] suggested that Chris sided against Naught in the dispute.
On 20 July 2021, The WCT collaborated with Bella in an attempt to dox Naught back.[24] The WCT was able to successfully dox Naught's mother with Bella's assitence. Naught had later admitted to doxing The WCT on 29 November 2021 via an edit on his page, providing details about the dox.[12]
Involvement with Halal Server
“ | Yeah, we dont want people to know we have Naught and MKR here | ” |
Halal Server member Sakura Blossom on concealing Naught's involvement in the server.[25] |
Naught was invited to the Halal Server, a Discord group for speculating about Bella and others who orbited Chris following the leak of the Incest Call. He used the pseudonym W.T.snacks while in the server.[6]
Involvement with Onion Farms
Naught and The WCT had frequented Kenneth Engelhardt's website, Onion Farms, and eventually become an admin of the website, which, according to Naught, was a result of the creation of the Watchmen article.[3] He primarily responded to some of Kenneth's posts regarding letters he received from Chris while he was in jail and posted on threads about Chris's orbiters.
On 29 January 2022, Naught indicated some degree of willingness to regain contact with Chris, asking Kenneth to "Tell CWC I said hi" and adding that "CWC knows me as bismuth," to which Kengle gave an okay.[26] Whether Naught or Kenneth moved ahead with the contact is unknown as Kenneth and Chris temporarily cut ties shortly afterwards.
On the Onion Farms, Naught had also created a number of threads on people associated with Chris, such as The WCT and Geno Samuel.
Interviews
Origins
The following is a conversation between a Christorian and Naught via Discord; the users are color-coded red and green, respectively. The interview was originally placed on the Watchmen CWCki page but was later removed due to uncorroborated statements made by Naught[27] and is now archived on this page.
Naught claimed that some members of the Watchmen had been operating since 2018, as the spiritual successor to the Guard Dogs – the latter having disbanded around the same time frame. However, Naught's account was disputed by a member of the Guard Dogs.
Naught also claimed that Watchmen members MKRNightVee and Aqua were picked by Null. However, MKRNightVee got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number for her[28] and Aqua joined during the Sockness saga by which time Null had been distant from Chris.
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Naught quoted a now-deleted section from the Guard Dogs CWCki article:
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History
On 4 September 2020, a Christorian interviewed Naught through Discord, asking questions about the Watchmen. The interviewer's questions are color-coded red, with Naught's responses color-coded green.
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The first four questions appear to be referring to the Arbitarch CWC Alliance server.
The last two appear to refer to the Watchmen as a group.
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Follow-up on Origins
Naught was asked to clarify the Watchmen's origins. In a prior interview, Naught had claimed the Watchmen to have been working with the Guard Dogs to supervise Chris at conventions, however a Guard Dog disagreed with the claim. Naught blamed Watchmen founder Owls, claiming the story was what he had been told by Owls.
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See also
External Links
Notes
- ↑ Falsely claimed Watchmen members were appointed by the Guard Dogs group. Initially denied, then admitted to, doxing The WCT.
- ↑ Omitted key context from his leak of Taser Discussion. He also used a cropped out "you may also like" portion of an Etsy sale for a Sonichu medallion, claiming it to be on the Praetor etsy page.
- ↑ Has attempted to use at least two of his associate's Kiwi Farms accounts, and doxed the WCT after they declined him using it. The dox would lead to significant infighting between him and Naught.
- ↑ The Watchmen member Spunky claims that the Kiwi Farms account under this name used to belong to her under the name "thetarotreader96", to which she granted Naught's permission to use. Afterwards, Naught would use the account for his own purposes, having it renamed to "death of chans".
References
- ↑ March 2021 Watchmen leaks
- ↑ File:Naught-CWC-7Sept20 - Handle shipments6.jpg
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 OP of Naught's lolcow.org thread (archive)
- ↑ In The Place chats - Psychic Detective, Chris chats with - and calls him by his Bismuth alias.
- ↑ Naught DMs#Fulfill the orders
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms See "Halal - Watchmen - silvia-spunk-emily-spruill-silverangel [873480191501017089" channel at 07-Aug-21 07:43 AM timestamp
- ↑ Naught#Follow-up on Origins
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/corbindallasmultipass-memorial-thread.30974/post-9227018
- ↑ June 2021 Watchmen calls
- ↑ MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place
- ↑ File:Naught on WCT dox.png
- ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 Archive of the edit
- ↑ WCT DMs#Nauht and Geno
- ↑ The American Hedgehog. Thread #49854 (Message #12466646). Kiwi Farms.
- ↑ The Place chats (March 2021)#Rejection of the Fourth Lainchu
- ↑ File:TarotDivinationNaught.jpg
- ↑ Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raid
- ↑ Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raids
- ↑ Naught DMs#Praetor
- ↑ The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#5 February 2021
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/page-8#post-8301396 Archive (https://archive.fo/YVFf8)
- ↑ June 2021 Watchmen calls#Movie Night Confrontation
- ↑ June 2021 Watchmen calls#Pre-Jail Interview (Clip form, hosted at lolcow.org)
- ↑ Chess Group 15 Chats#Watchmen Treason
- ↑ Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms. See Halal - General - halal-general [873250859369250879].html at 10-Aug-21 04:46 PM timestamp
- ↑ https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/cwc-letter-january-29-2022-pissed-off-over-some-of-the-fan-art-she-has-two-mothers-buckle-up-its-a-wild-ride.2147/post-33036 / https://archive.ph/4uyxz
- ↑ https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Watchmen&type=revision&diff=252258&oldid=252227
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/
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