Ren Ryghts-Philip Paymo DMs
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Chats and calls
This page contains DMs between Ren Ryghts and Philip Paymo on Bluesky. The DMs were shared by Ren Ryghts on the Kiwi Farms on 11 September 2026.[1]
Messages
| Hey man. Hope you're having a good night. Look, I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I think you should lay low for a bit. The CWCki and Kiwi Farms are looking into you, and it isn't looking good. I am Ren Ryghts. I interacted with Christine a bit in 2024. I commissioned Persona 3 and 5 drawings from her and bought her Persona 5 Royal, which she streamed. I did it to rile up the Persona fanbase. While I wouldn't do those things today, I dealt with a lot of drama. I was nearly doxed due to a drunken mistake and I was on edge for a long time. While I've since relaxed quite a bit, I really think you should re think these things. Please. For your own sake. And, I had a question. Did you happen to create that AI generated art of Wes Islei that Chris responded to last year? |
| No. And I don't think you're actually Ren Ryghts, either, given the number of fake DMs I've received. I never interacted with Christine directly prior to reaching out to her on Cameo. Any previous donations made under my name, or my old channel's name, were made by an impersonator. I don't have any bad intentions, I'ma moderator and I intend to do my job the best I can. That's the last thing I'll say about it. |
| I just tagged you in something |
| Is it okay if I just ask what made you want to do this? I mean, more than wanting to mess with Persona fans, I knew Christine would enjoy the game if she played it more. I could tell you the entire story of what lead up to that and the aftermath. But that aside, you gotta know that you're putting a target on your back. I got lucky, but the most minor people in Christory have gotten doxed and exposed. |
| It's good experience for moderating and editing, and I've had a good time doing it. There's not much more of a reason than that. |
| Alright, well that's fair I suppose. But, are you sure this is a good idea? Chris has a history of screwing over past collaborators, and I get people change over time, but man, you gotta know people think you're up to something, especially since you being CwcvilleGuardian2009 got exposed. |
| I've gotten almost a dozen DMs in the past two days, you don't think I know that people think I'm up to something? All I did was make a few bad Al videos meant to make people laugh and then play into it for a few days too long when it started being used in ways I didn't intend. I had nothing to do with the "Auli call" and I had no idea it existed until after people started accusing me of being behind it. I haven't interacted with Christine at all except as a moderator and editor. |
| I'm not trying to lecture you or play the moral high ground here. But also, why did you spend so much on Cameo on Chris? I know, I sound like a hypocrite when I bought two $300 commissions, but why Chris? Do you see yourself in her or something? Do you feel sorry for her? |
| Auli call? What's that? |
| Someone uploaded a fake phone call months ago where Christine allegedly leaked information about an associate. People have been speculating that I'm behind it because the person that did upload it shared one of my videos on Reddit. I've gotten multiple messages about it just in the past few days. As for my donations, I've commissioned 6 videos in a period of about 6 months. I personally don't think that's an absurd amount of content, especially at their current price and especially when I'm using those videos to make compilations. |
| I see... I guess not, but again, why for Christine? |
| Christine is someone who, for years at this point, has been held to a double standard by a lot of the communities that are supposed to be supporting her. Much of the trans community rejects and dehumanizes her, based on information that can easily be proven false with 5 minutes of research and based on a double standard that you'd be ostracized for applying to any other trans person. Every fandom space has rejected her presence, and continues to reject her for years after she's done anything of note, based on rumors. They claim it's to prevent spam and harassment even though she has no control over the people taking part in that. The people who claim to protect her by keeping her name off of everything and never talking about her act like she's incapable of self-advocacy, even though she's repeatedly made it clear that she wants to be treated just like any other creator. |
| So... do you see yourself in her? |
| In a sense, sure. I think she's someone with a lot of good ideas, she's just someone who struggles to put those ideas in a format that resonate with people, and she also understandably struggles to write her own parasocial narrative when thousands of others are constantly trying to write it for her and present her in the most negative light possible. |
| What about when all is said and done though? Christine doesn't remember a lot of people after a while. she barely remembers online friends she had pre arrest. Probably doesn't even remember me, and I'm far recent. |
| I suppose my goal is to help her learn how to do those things. I really don't mind if she remembers me or not. I'm not here to be a part of "Christory". If I have any goal, it's to give her the power to take control of her own narrative. |
| Also, even if the things you mentioned are in fact false, later down the line, saying you edited and moderated for Chris Chan isn't going to look good man. |
| Then I guess I better do a good job, eh? |
| I suppose? The biggest thing though, what if you were to be doxed? |
| I'd like to believe I've done a fairly good job of staying anonymous. |
| I never personally spoke with her outside of a small set of DMs that's on the CWCki, so she knows nothing of my personal life or anything, but I’d imagine at this point you two have shared quite a lot. What if she herself doxes you? It's happened before, see the Wallflower, and even her own driver's license and address back in the early days. |
| I think people are under the impression that we've talked a lot more than we have. She doesn't respond to messages very often. Our relationship is almost entirely work-related. |
| Almost? |
| I'd prefer not to go into detail about our private conversations if that's okay. |
| Sure. Are you charging or being paid for editing and such? |
| Not as of now, no. |
| I was also curious, was that your voice asking the questions in the QnA video? |
| Yes, it was. I need a new microphone, haha. |
| There is one key thing about these things though. Chris’ delusions. Are you enabling them? The CPU Goddess thing and Jesus and all that. |
| Nothing of the sort has come up in our conversations. The impression I've gotten is that it's mostly a character she puts on for her videos, at least recently. |
| I've kinda always wondered that myself actually. |
| I don't think she's ever brought it up to me. |
| I never fleshed out Ren’s character much, but part of it was that I was dying and wanted to know where I'd end up afterwards, as I asked Christine in DMs. I was originally going to have Ren die on March 5th as a reference to Persona 3, but I lost all will to do any of this after finding out a close friend of mine was diagnosed with terminal cancer at the time. |
| I was sick with bacterial meningitis about a month after that, believe it or not. I had to be put into a coma briefly, and it took me a few months to recover. I'm still not at 100%, but I'm probably about as close as I can be. |
| Hopefully that's the end of it. That’s terrible. |
| Thank you. |
| There is another thing I wanted to ask you. |
| What is it? |
| I saw in your replies that you mentioned "exposing" someone. I don't know anything about them, so I can't say much, but are you also like... monitoring DMs and taking names and such? |
| Another person who talks with Christine shared a private email with me unprompted. It's been settled at this point, so I don't want to say too much about it. |
| Like... private email account? |
| A private message. |
| I see. I misunderstood. Any videos to look forward to coming up? |
| Not at the moment, I've had to take a step back because of the situation. But eventually I'll be finishing a Mewgenics highlights video if everything turns out well. |
| Feel free to share these DMs. I know that was most likely the intention from the start. |
The above message was given a thumbs up by Ren Ryghts.
| Have you made all the highlights videos? I remember one was posted recently, but there hadn't been any since 2024 I think. Did you also make those? |
| No, I didn't start working on content for the channel until around March. Nothing I made was shared until the Transformers theme remix. |
| Didn't mean to hit thumbs up |
| But I mean, do you really think they'd even listen to me of all people? I just said that in your replies so you'd answer |
| Like I said early on, I'm under the impression that you're an impersonator as well. |
| I don't know if you saw the post I tagged you in |
| Gimme 2 minutes |
| Alright, check now |
| Oh, I see. |
| Don’t think you can fake that. Nor the signatures by the P3 voice actors. |
| Well, either way, share this wherever you want. I have to head out. Have a good night. |
| Yup. You too. Just be careful man. |
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