Kacey Call 4

28 August 2009

Highlights

• Chris begins the call by asking Kacey if she has an STD.
• Kacey received a lot of awards during her high school graduation, Chris is jealous.
• Chris suggests talking about political issues even though he has nothing to say about political issues.
• Kacey asks Chris about things she found on the ED page.
• Chris totally doesn't drink cum anymore.
• Chris totally doesn't shit himself anymore.
• Chris totally isn't gullible anymore.
• Chris lies and says the last time he shat himself was THREE YEARS AGO.
• Chris tries to explain why he has so many fucking video game accounts.
• Chris whines that he only gets 200 out of his 800 a month, and spends 150 on video games.
• Chris was going to call someone about getting a job, "but then stress happened."
• Chris used credit cards to buy thousands of video games, parents are paying the bills.
• Chris doesn't know why he got a CADD degree, "I feel more comfortable with drawing da comics than with da buildings and da computers."
• Chris is sending printed-out Sonichu comics to Marvel, DC and Dark Horse; thinks they will hire him because he's "very popular."
• Mary Lee Walsh caused all of his problems.
• Chris is capable of surviving, cooking and doing laundry.
• Chris can't look for a job on the internet because he "doesn't know what to put into a search term."
• Kacey says Sonichu is fanfiction, Chris says it's parody.
• Chris lies that he'll look for a job where he works 10 hours a week, Kacey wants him to work 20, eventually he says okay to shut her up.
• Kacey tells him not to wear his medallion to the job interview and not to draw on the applications; Chris sadly agrees that he won't.
• Chris thanks Kacey for yelling at him.

Part 1

Kacey-CWC Call 4 Part 1
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Stardate	28 August 2009
Featuring	Chris; Kacey
Saga	Liquid Liquid Saga
Audio Recordings
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Chris: Hello-o?
Kacey: Hi! It's Kacey!
Chris: Hey Kacey! How are you?
Kacey: I'm good. Um, how are you? Um, are you doing better?
Chris: Yeah, I'm feeling better, thank you. I was waiting for you to call me.
Kacey: Well, you just said around 11 to 11:30, so I gave you a few extra, you know, minutes just in case.
Chris: I see. Yeah, I know, that's cool. I appreciate that. But it's like, you know. Yeah, I mean- I mean no hurry, but I mean, like, you know. I was waiting for the pleasure of talking to you.
Kacey: Oh, uh, thank you. [nervous laugh]
Chris: Yeah, so uh, okay, let me go and get my main questions I had written down in my little notebook out of the way. Um...
Kacey: Oh, you have questions? Yeah, go ahead and ask them.
Chris: Yeah. Okay, this is an important one. You don't have any STD's, do you?
Kacey: Chris, why would you ask me that?! Of course I don't!
Chris: Okay, I'm sorry, I just-
Kacey: [interrupts] I mean, you know I've only been with one person!
Chris: Yeah, well, I mean, I just felt like I just had to ask anyway.
Kacey: O...okay, that's just... WOW!
Chris: Yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't up... [unintelligible] that wasn't a very good opening topic, I know, I'm sorry. It's just the first one I had on my thing here.
Kacey: Okay, well I hope the rest of the questions aren't that bad!
Chris: Uh, no, yeah well here, here, we'll do a 180 right here, um, yeah, let's, I think we talked about your education background a little bit, you, uh, you said you had honor roll grades back in high school?
Kacey: Yes, I was 4.0 all the way.
Chris: Well that's good. Yeah, you got your diploma and all. Um, okay, did you, uh, ever get any, uh, awards? Um, like, you know right before graduation?
Kacey: Um, yeah, like, um, I actually had a couple poems published, and um, I actually graduated with way more credits than I needed so I got a merit certificate.
Chris: [enthralled] You got a merit certificate?
Kacey: Yes.
Chris: Hmm. Tell me about that, what does that do for you?
Kacey: Oh, it just goes with your diploma, it just shows that you did way more than you needed to do - so, I got that, and you know, and I did like over 200 hours of community service, so, I got... It's just, it's just something that you... it doesn't really do anything, I mean, awards in high school are nothing, I mean, they don't really help you ever in your life.
Chris: Hmm. Yeah, but it's like, you know the achievement, it just makes you feel better, you know, I wish I would've gotten an award for my creativity back in high school.
Kacey: I mean, I guess, but high school really doesn't do anything for you so it's not a big deal.
Chris: Uh, it does a lot more than you, does a lot more than you think though, you know, I mean it, it's like, uh, it definitely readies you a little more for the adult life, that you're gonna be leaving high school FOR.
Kacey: Yeah, but I mean nobody cares, they look at college all the time, college is way bigger of a deal.
Chris: Yeah, it is a big deal. I hear that.
Kacey: Um, so, any other questions?
Chris: Well, okay well yeah, we'll move onto the next one... hmm... yeah... Oh yeah, um, what's yo... uh, you drew, you drew your original Kacey in green ink, uh, it's that like, uh, gel ink?
Kacey: Um, yeah, it is a gel pen actually, it's just one of the pens I use... for work.
Chris: Oh, okay, you generally use a green ink pen, oh, that's... that's interesting.
Kacey: Yeah, I like to use different colors.
Chris: Hm. [pause] All colors of the rainbow, right?
Kacey: [laughs] Yeah, definitely.
Chris: Hmm, now there's my colorful gal.
Kacey: [laughs] Well, Chris, remember, I'm just your friend.
Chris: Yeah, I know, I'm just saying, you know, I'm just trying to be creati... be clever.
Kacey: [laughs] Okay, well, um, keep going with questions.
Chris: Okay, hmm, do you like Sudoku? Doin' those Sudoku puzzles in the paper?
Kacey: No, I actually don't like Sudoku, I'm really big into logic puzzles but I've never gotten into Sudoku, I don't like it.
Chris: Well that's too bad. It's more on logic though, I mean, you know, you basically just put one through nine in the one box, and then divide compared to the other boxes, the whole big nine box...
Kacey: Right, I know what it is, I just don't like it.
Chris: Hmm, yeah, okay, well generally...
Kacey: [interrupts] I'm more of a science person than a math person.
Chris: Hmm, 'kay well you know you don't need math. I mean, it's like, okay, similarly you could do like Sudoku with like, the letters A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I. You could do letters A through I.
Kacey: I guess, but I mean, I just really don't like it, so if we could move on to the next question, that'd be awesome.
Chris: Well, okay. What's your favorite board game?
Kacey: Um, my favorite board game? Um, I haven't really played any in a long time, actually, so I mean...
Chris: Yeah, out of all the board games you've played?
Kacey: Um, well the last thing I played was Catan.
Chris: Catan? [Kacey: "Yes."] I've never heard of that one.
Kacey: Oh, you should look it up, you should Google it, it's a really awesome game.
Chris: Okay, is that spelled with a K?
Kacey: Um, no, it's C-A-T-A-N.
Chris: Oh, KAY-tawn, okay.
Kacey: Kuh-TAHN.
Chris: Yeah, alright... so my favorite board game yet... I got a little bit into Monopoly, but, I don't... yeah, I mean I can call it like my second favorite board game, um, [incoherent stammering] yeah, I guess, and plus, I mean, I have the original Sega Genesis cartridge, and you know, every once in a while I would play that, and I would beat the computer! [He seems proud of this.]
Kacey: Oh, okay, cool... well, um, go ahead and keep going with the questions.
Chris: Okay. Alright, well here's a fun one for you you might like. Did you have a favorite toy growing up?
Kacey: A favorite toy? Um, yeah, my Easy-Bake Oven.
Chris: Your Easy-Bake Oven?
Kacey: Yeah, I loved that Easy-Bake Oven.
Chris: Hah. Yeah, I can understand... I can understand that. Hah. Make the little small things with the little light bulb, it's fun. Uh, my favorite toy is this little uh Fisher Price Transformer, it was like, you know, my first Transformer, so it's like, uh it's a little red indy racecar, that transforms into a robot, you actually gotta pop the guy's head in for the full transformation. [pause] So I was... yeah... yeah you'd have to see it to pretty much get it, but... I mean, if you look it up, look it up on the internet, I'm sure you can find pictures, yeah. It's a little- little red indy racecar.
Kacey: Okay.
Chris: Yeah, Fisher Price... hmm... Oh and something else, I think, I feel like I can probably make you feel comfortable with, talkin' about, we can talk about some of your, uh, favorite pa- pa-litickal issues, or we can talk about your favorite episodes of House or The Office, and then uh, I'll just listen, and take it all in, and learn about you more as a friend, you know?
Kacey: Okay, well, um, let's do polla... politic issues, why don't you start?
Chris: Alright... heh... why don't I start. I mean, you know more about politics than I do... uh.... [pause, then frustrated sigh] I'm trying anyway, I'm trying to come up with a good political topic in my head right now.
Kacey: Well, if you can't, I mean do you have any other questions?
Chris: I mean, I just thought, you know... Okay, what's the most recent political thing that's, uh, you know, on your mind, now, at this point?
Kacey: Um, probably health care, cause, you know, that's what I'm going to be doing.
Chris: Oh, that's right, you're, uh, you're... [stammers] you're working towards getting your nurse degree. Out there.
Kacey: Yup.
Chris: Okay, um, we talked about that a little bit before... hmm... Yeah, let's see if I remember... yeah, I think you kind of agreed with me, with I said like, yeah... not everyone can afford healthcare, it's like you know... assist... and then yeah. Oh, yeah, you were... [Kacey starts talking over him]
Kacey: Actually, Chris, I think you agreed with ME, because you didn't even know about reformed healthcare, you just knew about socialist healthcare.
Chris: Hm. Yeah, that's true, I did, I did agree with you. And then you kind of agreed with you know, when I was talking about- about my father and me going down to Tom Perriello's office, and then he brought that up... but yeah, I was like agreeing with him at the time as well, but - Yeah and then you, when we talked about it, you kind of agreed with him too.
Kacey: Right... well do you have any other questions? Cause there's something on my mind that I really need to - talk to you about.
Chris: Oh! We could talk about that. What's up?
Kacey: Okay, um, so you know all these trolls have been bothering me, right?
Chris: Oh, yeah.
Kacey: So I was talking to my aunt about it, she's a nurse too, and...

Part 2

Call 4, Part 2

Kacey: ...you know she got really suspicious. And, um, she Googled your name, and you know, some of the things that the trolls have been saying, I mean, I think they might be true, I mean what is, you know, it's disturbing, and it's making me really uneasy especially since, you know, you've said you - think about me to such a degree, and I mean, it's just like... I mean, I know you've talked about the ED site before, but I mean, is a lot of that true? Like, uh - why are you doing half those things in those videos? And, I thought you were anti-gay, and you're drinking your own cum?? It's gross! And it's just... it's bothering me!
Chris: Yeah, okay yeah, that is a whole bunch of skeletons... that is a whole bunch of skeletons in my closet.
Kacey: But I mean, why would you do that?! Do they make you do that?
Chris: Uh, no... As for the uh... yeah... I pretty much volunteered myself to be doing that, cause it was like, you know, I considered it like recycling, so it's like, you know, I didn't have to lose it... and plus you know I read on the internet there was like health benefits [something unintelligible]
Kacey: Health benefits of what, of doing that?!
Chris: Yeah.
Kacey: There's- there's- no real health benefits, those are all myths, I mean it doesn't help your hair, it doesn't help your nails, there's not enough protein in it. I mean, is that the whole reason you did it?
Chris: Anyway, anyway, I've stopped... anyway, I've stopped doing that months ago.
Kacey: Well that's GOOD, but, I mean, there's no point in doing it. I mean... I... I... I mean especially not if you were so anti-gay. I mean, it's just, I mean most people would see that and go, "Wow, this guy must be at least bisexual!"
Chris: [sigh] Yeah, okay yeah, I can definitely see it from your point of view and I understand. [sigh] Yeah, but I take it like... you know... I learn from my mistakes, and... yeah... I've grown to the understanding and whatnot. Um, anyway, mostly other stuff like you know the posts... and the videos, and me drawing, you know, drawin' on my dick, and pictures of that, yeah...
Kacey: Okay well, [Chris interjects saying "I was talking!"] Hey, no, no, let me go! Okay, another thing that really disturbed me is, apparently, you told these trolls that you, uh... That you shit yourself? I mean, what the hell, Chris?
Chris: [in an odd falsetto] Ehh, I prettty much... yeah... I mean, I'm more in control of my bowel movements nowadays, and yeah, I... I do that less.
Kacey: Well I mean... you're just... you're 27, I mean.... Do you just not make it to the bathroom? [amused] ...Or, or what?
Chris: Uh... Yeah, I just, I just don't make it to the bathroom quickly enough.
Kacey: [incredulous] Wh... h-how do you not know? Your body... gives you... you know... it lets you KNOW that... something... it's like, I mean... Like when was the last time it happened if you're so in control?
Chris: Okay, the last time it happened... yeah it was like three years ago.
Kacey: Three years ago?
Chris: Yeah.
Kacey: Well it said that it happened recently, so are these lies?
Chris: Yeah they're, yeah they, yeah I would say they are exaggerating those. If it happened recently those are lies.
Kacey: Okay, okay but - [Chris repeats 'the last time I' over and over] you've got to see that all this stuff is disturbing to me.
Chris: Hmm. Yeah I can, I can, I can relate to that. I can understand how you feel. Yeah. I- I would be uneasy too if I was, if I wasn't myself and I was reading that, you know, about myself or... Yeah. Hm - oh yeah, most of the information they got on that ED page... [silence] It's like conned out of me, they conned out of me from pretending to be the past women I've talked to like Blanca... Weiss or uh...
Kacey: Okay but you can't blame other people. I mean, those people aren't near you; you can't say that they made you give them those videos. I mean what- [Chris tries to interrupt] -were you thinking? I mean, this is why your parents are mad at you right now!
Chris: Yeah plus I was more gullible back then. And I'm, [sheepish] I've been less gullible for the past few months. And now. [long silence] I've learned from my mistakes. I'm working on these things and I'm moving on from - I'm moving on and trying to put all that behind me. And plus, I've, I've got a responsible detective, uh, up in the FBI to take, to help, to help to towards the down-taking of the website and the downfall of the trolls.
Kacey: Okay, but still, Chris, I mean, Chris you need to understand this stuff is kind of disturbing, and I mean like, okay look, like - I mean, like stuff you do in real life. Like, if most people touched me as much as you did, I would've gone off with them, but I mean, I'm trying to be polite because I know you have difficulties, and I mean that you, like you say "slow-in-the-mind", but I mean, you've gotta understand you can't keep doing this shit.
Chris: Yeah, I understand that... [pause] I understand that.
Kacey: And besides, you keep saying that the cops don't care about things. I mean, you've really gotta let some of this stuff go! I mean, I mean don't be slow-in-the-mind with that! I mean, if they don't care they're not - they're never gonna help you, and even just one lone detective isn't gonna be able to do anything!
Chris: [long silence] Yeah... Yeah also I did go to Tom Periello a little about that and talk to him about that.
Kacey: Well, I mean, what exactly is he gonna do? [Talking over Chris] And I mean, I mean like, what about all your counselors at church? I mean, do they know all this? Do they know this stuff?
Chris: Yeah, they know, yeah they, more or less, uh, know about what's been going on in the ED page, yeah. I mean ne- I mean, the people - I mean, between my pastor Elizabeth and… my pastoral counselor Rocky, uh yeah, they're ashamed with the, the church and all that being… on the internet and being put on the ED page and being slandered around in that sense. [pause] And I mean, yeah, I've been relating with that as well, and... It's just one of the things I try not to think - that's just one of the bad pieces, that like you know. I mean, I'm not ignorant, I know about it, I understand it, I just can't- [Kacey interrupts here]
Kacey: But Chris, okay, there was a video of you humping a PlayStation 3! [laughing] What the hell?
Chris: [stammering] I was - I was blackmailed into that. By, uh…
Kacey: But the - how were they blackmailing you? These people are on the internet! How are they blackmailing you? [Chris tries to interrupt] You - they - they're not going to do anything to you!
Chris: Okay- okay, Kacey, yeah, this happened like a month ago but like… two months ago. About one - about over a… Yeah I'd say, yeah, closer to two months now. Uh, anyway yeah, this person Jack Thaddeus got hold of the majority of my PlayStation Network accounts, including my main- my main American one, my secondary American one, and my, and my import accounts, including my Japan, Hong Kong and Spain-
Kacey: [interrupts] Wait wait wait, you were doing this over a PlayStation account? That's what all this was about?
Chris: Not just one but the whole- but the, but the majority, a whole bunch of my accounts- [Kacey cuts him off]
Kacey: It's video games! It's - oh my gosh, you could've easily called them and they would've understood, I mean… It's video games, [Chris tries to interrupt] you were letting them get to you that bad over a video game?!
Chris: Yeah, okay - [Kacey cuts him off again]
Kacey: Chris! Think about what you're doing!
Chris:: Yeah, okay, okay Kacey. Before that- before I made- before th- that video happened, let me give you the - let me start from the beginning here.
Kacey: No, no! You're - you did this for a video game? It doesn't matter what they did. These are nameless people behind a computer screen. They're not gonna do anything to you! Uh-h You did this- you're giving them all this stuff over a video game! [pause] I mean, you need to grow up!
Chris: [moaning] Kacey, I'm- I'm- I'm talking Kacey, please. Uh, let me start from the beginning - Okay, Jack Thaddeus got hold of my Playstation Network accounts, and uh, then I tried - then I called up - like, called the American Playstation company, and uh, got both of my American accounts back but I was put on a one-month ban because they considered it like, gamesharing, and that was my - my third strike against me on that. And they're like, you know, next time it might be permanent.
Kacey: Okay, then cut your losses. Is it really worth it? Is it worth having this on the internet for the rest of your life over an account on a PS3?
Chris: [moaning again] Yeah, there's a- [sighs] You know, your may contain[?] more about how the accounts are linked, like you know, the PlayStation titles and the titles that go to - that can be copied to the PSP -
Kacey: It doesn't matter, it's a video game! You cut your losses and you tell them "Fine, take it!" Then, I mean, then - it's not worth it!
Chris:: I put better than two thousand dollars on my main American account-
Kacey: Whoa, WHOA! You've spent two thousand dollars on video games!? Why would you EVER spend that much on video games? What did you get?!
Chris: Plus, and plus this was over the course of like, two, three years.
Kacey: [Talking over Chris] I haven't spent that much on video games in two to three years! [laughing]
Chris: Yeah, ehh, I didn't have a girlfriend....
Kacey: Even if it's two years, it's a thousand dollars a year! It doesn't matter if you have a girlfriend or not. That- that's insane! That's like those people who play Halo all the time. And they do nothing!
Chris: [long pause before sigh] Anyway, getting back to - anyway, getting back to - getting back on track here. Yeah, I got my American accounts back. I had trouble tryin' to get back my Japan, and my Spain which those are important to me 'cause- [unintelligible]
Kacey: Why would you- why would you even have that many accounts? Isn't an American account just good enough? And, okay-

Part 3

Call 4, Part 3

Chris: [splutters incoherently as Kacey continues to talk] I like- I like- I like getting imports. [stress sigh]
Kacey: How would they be able to get all of them? Okay, but why would they be able to get all of them at ONCE? I mean, did you make them all the same password? I mean, okay, I mean you can't have that many accounts, that's like fraud and stuff! Just I mean... I mean how did they get them?
Chris: Okay, personally I had like, a multiple number of email addresses, and uh - multiple - different passwords for all of them. Uh, upon the reaching of that for Jack Thaddeus, Kim asked me to, uh - share my Playstation information with her, 'cause she has a Playstation 3 and-
Kacey: [Interrupts, furious] Are you blaming Kim?! [Chris tries to talk] Are you saying it's Kim's fault?
Chris: No, no, it's not Kim's fault, and she and I talked about this before. But anyway, she had to - I had told her the uh, the information and the usernames and the passwords for the majority, and then she uh-
Kacey: Okay, Chris, Chris? You know what, let's go back to - hey, HEY! HEY! CHRIS! [She shouts over him to get his attention] Let's go back to something. You said you spent over $2000. Okay. You are on an income, which taxpayers like myself, pay. How much do you spend on video games a WEEK?
Chris: [Sigh] Uhhhh. I'm not sure.
Kacey: Okay. You can't even keep track of that. What gives you the right to take that money, and to spend $2000 of it on video games. Where - I mean I can't even afford to buy myself video games, so why should I pay for you to just spend your money on all this?
Chris: Most of my income goes - goes towards my family. Uh, paying them a monthly rent of $250, they've gone twice [unintelligible] the bills...
Kacey: [Talking over him] That doesn't matter! It doesn't matter! It doesn't matter what you pay like that.
Chris: I only get like 200 out my 800 a MONTH.
Kacey: Then WHY would you spend that much on games? That makes even LESS sense! I mean, okay, with these games you spent so much money on, how much do you even play them a week? How much do you even play them?
Chris: [long pause] Uh... On a near daily basis.
Kacey: All of them? [disbelieving] All 2000 dollars?
Chris: [pause] The majority of it, yes.
Kacey: Okay, I find that hard to believe. I mean, and even if you were, don't you think maybe - you should be.... Like - like, you were talking about getting a job! Like, how are you going to be able to do that, and be playing all these games at once? You should be, uh, I mean, have you done anything MORE than going down to the Social Security office?
Chris: [pause, sigh] Yeah. ...I was gonna call Mr. Will yesterday and find out more about that working ticket, but unfortunately, uh, yeah - yeah today is still Friday. I was gonna call him today, but then the stress happened yesterday, and I had to take the emotional day today. I just didn't feel up to making the call today, and -
Kacey: Chris! Then how are you gonna work? How are you ever gonna work? You can't just have emotional days like that. I mean, you either work or you don't. I mean, you've gotta grow up a little!
Chris: I n- I- I've been growing up! I've been growing up. It's just a- a whole lot for me to think about.
Kacey: Well, this is why your parents are mad at you! I can see why they're mad at you! [Chris sighs deeply] I mean, do they even know you spent that much on video games? And that you just like - I- I- oh my gosh! I mean, I didn't want to go in to work today, and I went in! I didn't want to go to school today, and I went! And I mean, I've been having problems with sinuses, and - I mean - come on!
Chris: Uhhh. I mean, if I did have a job, and all that, uh, so many complications, I, uh, when I got my Social Security at first - I was, at first, you know, like, I mean I think it was about -
Kacey: [talks over him] Chris, Chris, if you-
Chris: [keeps talking] Two thousand two or three-
Kacey: -really only get 200 dollars a month, how did you GET all that money for those video games? Did you steal it?
Chris: I get 800 - for your information, no - For your information, I get 800 dollars a month.
Kacey: No, but you said you only get, you just said that you only get 200 out of it because your parents take the rest. I mean, so - how did you - I mean, that would have taken you a looong time, and, and that's if you never spent any other money on anything but video games. Where did you get that money?
Chris: Yeah, well, I-
Kacey: Be honest.
Chris: It, it, it did come out of the, uh, remaining 200. I spend like 150 out of that per month.
Kacey: There's no way you could have mathematically have done that and only spent your 200 on video games. Where did you get the rest of that money, and please be honest with me.
Chris: [sigh] Uh, between credit car- between credit cards and-
Kacey: You have credit cards? Are they yours? [gasp] You took your parents' credit card for video games??
Chris: No, no, not my parents', they were my own credit cards. I actually applied for those. They had my name on 'em.
Kacey: Why would you do that? [long pause] You- you don't have a-
Chris: I'm a dreamer! (?)
Kacey: No no no, but that doesn't matter, you need to be smart about it! You don't have a job! I mean, you've gotta be in so much debt!
Chris: Ehhh, well I-
Kacey: Chris, how are you going to have this family you want if you have all this debt? And how are you going to pay off the credit cards?
Chris: Well fortunately my, my mother and my father have decided, eh, to help me out there. They're paying my credit card bills and I'm paying them back.
Kacey: And you think they're going to be there forever? You think they're always going to clean up after your mistakes?
Chris: No, no, I know they're not going to clean up after my mistakes forever. And I- I'm not going to make those mistakes again.
Kacey: I don't know, Chris. This has given me a lot to think about.

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