29 August 2009
Highlights
- Chris just finished getting a "stern talking-to" from Kim about getting a job; he already can't remember what she said.
- Kacey did research on how Chris can still receive the tugboat while having a job or something; he doesn't listen.
- Counselors at PVCC told Chris that they could get him a job; he didn't listen.
- Chris doesn't know what Student Financial Aid is; he promises to google it.
- Chris whines some more about being blank-minded and confused.
- Chris says he's willing to go from digital cable to basic cable.
- Chris lies about how much he spends on the PSN.
- Chris compares buying game add-ons to having a magazine subscription to try and make Kacey understand it's not a big deal.
- Chris doesn't know anything about college because that happened yeeeeaars ago.
- CADD WAS HARD WORK BURNED INTO MY PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY.
- Chris took tennis and ice-skating classes in college.
- Chris took accounting and/or marketing classes first, then "years later" he found out there were not enough jobs available in that field so he switched to CADD.
- Kacey says Chris is basically wiping his ass on his CADD Degree; Chris says "that was uncalled for".
- Chris says he understands so Kacey will shut up and let him leave.
Transcript
Chris: Hello?
Kacey: Hey Chris, it's Kacey.
Chris: Hey Kacey. How are you?
Kacey: I'm OK.
Chris: I'm OK too. [content sigh] So um...
Kacey: Um...
Chris: Anything on your mind right now?
Kacey: What?
Chris: Is there anything on your mind right now?
Kacey: Yeah, um, did you go apply for jobs like I said?
Chris: Oh yeah. I go- I wen- I uh, uh, application at Wal-Mart. I'm gonna...
Kacey: [interupts] That's good. Did you do it in person?
Chris: Uh, no, I filled- no, I went online and did it. Filled out for the Charlottesville store.
Kacey: Ok cause, um, I did some research for you. Um, about working with your disability... and actually um, this is a lot easier than I thought it would be. Like you- they can put you on a trial work period or they- and they can extend your period of eligibility like, you could be making... um... like it doesn't matter what you make during the trial work period, like you'll get both still, your uh, your tugboat and your, uh wages. And even afterwards if you're not making enough, like you can get both. It actually goes by what you make, not by how many hours you work.
Chris: Hmm...I see.
Kacey: Yeah, I mean that's actually really exciting! I mean, you could be technically making more than me. Well, at least you know right now. [laughs]
Chris: Well, I don't know. Um, I'm st- I s- still got to uh, wait to talk to uh, that guy from social security...
Kacey: [interrupts] Chris! This is straight from the social security site! This is a great opportunity. And even IF you make too much money you can still keep your Medicaid, uh, benefits. I mean, how can you not be excited about this?
Chris: I dunno...I got- I g- I just talked to Kim and she gave me some, uh, tough talkin' to as well ya know about uh, me getting a job and what not, uh... Also talked about uh, old schoo- also t- also talked about college days and uh, I don- I- I- I don't remember all the details but it's all- it's all ju- it's like absorbed- everything she told me is in the back of my head. It- it's tattooed in my head.
Kacey: Well, that doesn't really... [Chris tries to interupt] that doesn't really sound like you listen to her a lot.
Chris: I did listen to her! I did! I did.
Kacey: But didn't you just talk to her and you can't remember stuff?
Chris: [sigh]
Kacey: I mean cause you told me that Kim calls before I do.
Chris: Yeah. [pause] Hmm, but anyway uh...let me think...
Kacey: But I mean uh- ar- are you- so I did all this research for you and... you don't even... care now?
Chris: I do care. I do care. I appreciate it. I do.
Kacey: Well I mean you- I don't think your really going to do anything. I- I mean...
Chris: [interrupts] I'm- I- I- I'm doing something! My family knows I'm out to look for a job.
Kacey: Ok so what did your family say?
Chris: Uh...Thi- th- it- their all- their like 'Ah, well yeah you gotta find out how much your gonna earn, and how this is- how this is gonna- is gonna affect your social security, and uh, if you're going to be able to earn more than your social security'... ahh...
Kacey: You need to make a LOT more than your social security, like you need to make... like, OK. Um... like, um, depending also on w- ya know how your uh, quote unquote disability affects you getting to work and stuff. Like they can take these expenses... um, and actually deduct it from your pay. Like so even if you're making let's say a thousand dollars a month. Um, if your disability causes you to have to do things that cost you two hundred a month, your still- they- they count those two hundred, um, against your pay so your still making- you know, even though you are making more than you should, they won't count it against you. Like you have to be making over a thousand dollars a month before their gonna even... Even then their only gonna take part of it away. Their never going to take away all of it. Like you'd have to make a LOT more to where it wouldn't even matter. I mean and even if your parents are behind you or not you're twenty seven right? I mean, you have to make your own decisions.
Chris: [pause] Yeah, I- I do have to make my own decisions, ah. Yeah. Als- another thing that I talked to Kim about was like uh, I- I'm often confused with my li- I'm often confused about things that I actually ah, want er, need. It's been that way for so many years. I mean like...
Kacey: [interrupts] Well don't you think its time for that to change then?
Chris: Yeah it- I do need to ah, that's ah- that's something I do need to change.
Kacey: But I mean you know your whole life you're going to be figuring stuff out. It's not a magical upgrade that makes you an adult I mean, I'm pretty sure like at times my parents still need to figure things out and everything. I mean we're not computers. We don't work like computers. We definitely don't.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah you're right. You are right about that. Hmm... but anyway one of my- anyway one of my problems in my mind is like ya know I... tend ta... tend, I ah, I often do get confused and uh, feel like I'm lost and it's like ya know, and I'm not- I have not been sure of exactly what my virgin (?), my sweetheart and my little daughter Crystal that I have dreamed of... And pretty much ya know all my life, every time I've been asked 'Where do you see yourself in five years?' I always draw a blank.
Kacey: Well, maybe that's showing you that maybe you should let GO of Crystal and all that stuff. Maybe you should GO in a different direction. Maybe you're getting blanked because you not going in the direction you should be going in. You need to focus on more important things.
Chris: And that's another thing I mean ya know, Kim could tell you more about the conversation we had but uh- she- she and I talked about but also like ya know, even during, even with, even- I have talked to my counselors in Piedmont when I was working towards my CADD degree and certificate. It's like ya know yeah sure they can help me get a job, and yadda yadda yadda... um...
Kacey: Then why didn't you let them!
Chris: [pause] Yeah. I- it's jus- I- I have never been really sure what I wanted to go out for. I mean... It- I- ah-[studdering]
Kacey: [interrupts] Then you need to get back in school Chris! You need to do something. You're twenty seven. You're- I mean yes I know people are going to school, um older and older but, [laughs] come on! Isn't there anything you wanted to do even when you were little?
Chris: [frustrated stuttering] I'm thinking about it! I'm mean I'm trying- I'm ah- I'm ah- [stuttering]
Kacey: [interrupts] C'mon, this is pathetic.
Chris: I'm sorting all this out and I'm thinking about it and I'm going to do som- I'm going to do something. It takes time for me before I can- before I actua- but I AM doing something ya know. I submitted the application for Wal-Mart and I'm going to do one for Target and I'm going to do one for Ma-Donalds...
Kacey: Chris. Remember when I said in other cultures you wouldn't survive? I mean come on. You need to take charge. I mean, you are an adult. You're going to have to make snap judgments sometimes. I mean y- I mean isn't there anything that you wanted to do when you were younger? I mean even if it's something like making video games. You could probably do that.
Chris: I mean that is one thing, but...I- that is one thing but...
Kacey: [interrupts] I mean you already have some CADD stuff, you could learn how to program them and stuff.
Chris: Yeah but unfortunately they don't teach that- those kinds of classes at like uh, Piedmont. I'm not sure if their are any colleg- there are any classes like for...
Kacey: [interrupts] Whatever! They have stuff online you can take Chris! You have no excuse.
Chris: Yeah, I know but I kinda would like...lessons on taking classes on line.
Kacey: No, OK, there's no but! You either don't have an excuse or you do have an excuse.
Chris: OK, fine. I don't have an excuse. But...so many options, I'm not sure- I sure wha- I'm just not sure where to begin.
Kacey: A lot of people are. Why don't you go talk to um, I mean if you can't go to PVCC, why don't you go to someplace else that's closer? Um, or why don't you go somewhere in D.C.? I mean, it would be easy for you to get housing. [pause] Why don't you take a couple different classes and see. Or, I mean I bet you don't even research this sh- tuff.
Chris: [pause] I have- I did- I do rese- I do researching ya know... I've tried- I've gone on to the social security dot gov website, but I don't...
Kacey: [interrupts] OK but I'm talking about school. Chris.
Chris: [trying to talk over Kacey]
Kacey: Chris! Chris! Listen to me! No! Listen to me! Do you not realize the opportunities you have? Do you not realize they will pay for your school? They will pay for your boarding? They will pay for your transportation? Do you know how much I would KILL for that going through school right now? And I'm going to have to go through med school. And you are just SITTING on your ass wasting that shit when the government will BEG you to take it! What the hell?
Chris: I didn't even know I had those options and I'm not sure how to activate those options. I never learned.
Kacey: Go to a school! Talk to a counselor there! Talk to an advisor there. Fill out your, F-A-F-S-A. I mean, come on. There's SO much you could just reach out for and... Ugh! I mean like you could do anything.
Chris: AH, hold up there... S-A-S-A?
Kacey: Your FAFSA? Come on. The financial aid application? How do you NOT know...[laugh] about... I- I-
Chris: I- I- I do not know that. I've never even heard of that.
Kacey: How do you not hear... are you serious? It's financial aid! You- you- you- you went to college!
Chris: I've- I- I've heard- I've heard of financial aid but I never heard of S-A-S-A
Kacey: You haven't heard of a FAFSA? That you've HAD to have filled one out. I mean did your parents pay for your college outright?
Chris: Yeah they kinda did pay for my college classes.
Kacey: [sigh] Just go to a college. Go to a financial aid office or just... Google it. It's F-A-F-S-A. And it's so easy to do online. It so is. All you need are... you know what? You wouldn't even need much of anything cause you don't pay taxes so you don't have any W-2's or anything, or W-4's, so, pfft. And you're old enough to where you're parents won't matter. So you could probably get- I mean you have no income and you're on disability, you- oh my god they would pay for everything.
Chris: [pause] Well I will look into that. That was S-A-F-S-A?
Kacey: F-A-F-S-A
Chris: Hmm. OK what's the acronym stand for? That will help me understand better.
Kacey: Are you serious?
Chris: Ya I'm serious.
Kacey: It's just- it's just easier if you just Google that. I promise you. It- it's gonna come up. It- it's gonna to be a dot gov site...
Chris: OK I'll- OK I will look that up.
Kacey: Chris. It's only five letters. [laughing] It's OK. Or just Google financial aid. That's going to be the FIRST thing that pops up on Google. I promise you.
Chris: OK. Financial aid. I will Google that. My computers on the other room. I'll log- I will- I- I will- I promise you I will go look into that right after we- right after we finish up here. [long pause] Kacey?
Kacey: [sigh] Yeah.
Chris: I wa- I wa- it was just kind like, ya know I wasn't sure you were there and that you just pause for a moment. So yeah I promise you I will look- I will look...
Kacey: [interrupts] I'm just frustrated. No.
Chris: [pause] Well, it's not your fault that I'm a little bit re- that I'm a little bit slow sometimes.
Kacey: I know, but I mean like this is stuff you should know. I mean this is- this is frustrating for me. Like, I can understand ignorance, but I can't stand stupidity.
Chris: No I- No it's not stupidity- no it's not stupidity. It's just dumb. I was just dumb on the subject. I never learned that sort of thing.
Kacey: How do you not if you go to school? OBVIOUSLY, somebody must have talked about 'Hey I got my financial aid!'. I mean I'm pretty sure you could not go to college and not even overhear somebody talk about financial aid.
Chris: I- I- I've overheard- Yeah I've overheard discussions of financial aid. But it's like ya know, I was like picking my classes... and... I just didn't- I just didn't- and my parents did not make a big deal about it, and I just...
Kacey: Well it's not up to your parents! It's not up to you're parents to make a big deal about it. It's up to YOU to grab your future!
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