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[[File:Chris annoyed at Ben Saint.png|thumb|250px|An annoyed Chris tells Ben to stop harping on the genocide, perturbed to the point he slipped up in his role-playing and ended the message writing as Magi-Chan instead of himself.]] | [[File:Chris annoyed at Ben Saint.png|thumb|250px|An annoyed Chris tells Ben to stop harping on the genocide, perturbed to the point he slipped up in his role-playing and ended the message writing as Magi-Chan instead of himself.]] | ||
Saint would continue to draw his characters being massacred by the soda rain and beg Chris to stop, yet Chris maintained that he already had, and that any deaths already inflicted were [[Chris and remorse|for the greater good]]. Chris tried to compose his message with a calm tone, but his annoyance at Ben still shone through, when he slipped up and ended the message writing as [[Magi-Chan]] instead of as himself.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863</ref> Later, on | Saint would continue to draw his characters being massacred by the soda rain and beg Chris to stop, yet Chris maintained that he already had,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5456252 Chris tells a random Saint supporter that his 'cleansing rains' have stopped, 12 October 2019]</ref> and that any deaths already inflicted were [[Chris and remorse|for the greater good]]. Chris tried to compose his message with a calm tone, but his annoyance at Ben still shone through, when he slipped up and ended the message writing as [[Magi-Chan]] instead of as himself.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863</ref> Later, when Saint would depict his dead characters on a special story arc in hell,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5446854 Chris complains about dead characters, 10 October 2019]|</ref> or otherwise [[Sonichu 4|diverge his plot]], Chris would [[Chris and hypocrisy|demand Saint return to drawing his comic]] instead of pursuing his role-playing.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5457455 Chris insists Ben get back to work, 14 October 2019]</ref> Like clockwork, [[white knights]] came in to defend Chris's actions and inject their own strain of [[random-access humor|nonsense]] into the mix, nominally to help Chris along. [[Jacob Sockness]] offered on 17 October to summon Jakoba, a demon god of his own invention, to demand even more reparations from Saint, yet Chris refused, instead accepting the [[Multidimensional White Knights]]' enlisting [[wikipedia:Ed Bighead|Ed Bighead]], who was supposed to have became the king of Babylon in [[C-197]] and was rallying an army to defend Chris from the slime.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5475019 White knights present bids for Chris, 17 October 2019]</ref> Ben eventually relented, at least in part: he revived his characters that he had killed off earlier that month, using the same ''!revive'' command from his Discord server that Chris had used to declare himself resurrected. Chris approved, mentioning for [[autism|no apparent reason]] at the same time that he endorses [[United States]] 2020 [[Chris and politics|presidential candidate]] Andrew Yang.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5467553 Saint revives his characters and Chris joins the Yang Gang, 16 October 2019]</ref> | ||
Further interactions with Ben, on Twitter as well as Discord, soon after deteriorated into continued disputes about whether or not Chris had committed fictional genocide. Accusations of ''hatred'' were common on both sides.<ref name=financhu /> Ben would try to manipulate Chris's version of events by stating his fictional city was rained upon several time, while Chris would resist such changes to his version of events being inserted. Saint's publicity stunt was however stunted by Chris's shifting [[autism|interests]], as he devoted more attention to his [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card line]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] returned for a second round of weening after a fortnight's delay. On 19 October, Chris asserted that he had [[Chris and religion|divine mandate]] from the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] to supersede Ben's decisions about his comic.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5483895 Ben and Chris continue to argue about genocide, 19 October 2019]</ref> Unlike Alec Benson Leary before him, Ben Saint has failed to gain [[Laughs Under Lucricities]] and acclaim from onlookers, but his heavy-handed approach to [[parody]] has given him a place beside the [[Idea Guys]] and [[Multidimensional White Knights]] in Christory. | Further interactions with Ben, on Twitter as well as Discord, soon after deteriorated into continued disputes about whether or not Chris had committed fictional genocide. Accusations of ''hatred'' were common on both sides.<ref name=financhu /> Ben would try to manipulate Chris's version of events by stating his fictional city was rained upon several time, while Chris would resist such changes to his version of events being inserted. Saint's publicity stunt was however stunted by Chris's shifting [[autism|interests]], as he devoted more attention to his [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card line]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] returned for a second round of weening after a fortnight's delay. On 19 October, Chris asserted that he had [[Chris and religion|divine mandate]] from the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] to supersede Ben's decisions about his comic.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5483895 Ben and Chris continue to argue about genocide, 19 October 2019]</ref> Unlike Alec Benson Leary before him, Ben Saint has failed to gain [[Laughs Under Lucricities]] and acclaim from onlookers, but his heavy-handed approach to [[parody]] has given him a place beside the [[Idea Guys]] and [[Multidimensional White Knights]] in Christory. |
Revision as of 10:24, 20 October 2019
“ | my dream is to somehow get [Chris] to draw phantom horn or better yet NLACakaNM [...] I HAVE to ignite the Slime Saga | ” |
Ben[1] |
“ | @ItsAllSoUgly, YOU, most of all, Do Not Need the damn Slime. You Are Better than that. | ” |
Chris, to Ben[2]. |
Ben Saint | |
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Information | |
Name | Ben Saint |
Also known as | The Cop Killer ItsAllSoUgly Phantom Horn |
Date of Birth | 7 April 1988 (age 36) |
Gender | Male |
Nationality | US American |
Race | White |
Occupations | Engineer (Former) Comic Artist YouTuber |
Ben Saint is a webcomic artist, troll and self-proclaimed 'Dimensional Prophet of C-197'.[3] Though he had been interested in Chris for years, lecturing for two hours on Sonichu in 2016[4] and commissioning art detailing Liquid Chris's fate in the comic world,[5] he is most known for exploiting Chris and his Internet infamy in order to boost views of his own comic and solicit thousands of dollars in donations in October 2019.[6] He would provoke him by inserting Night Star, Chris's My Little Pony fan character, into his comics and role-playing with him to get him invested in the comic's plot.[1][7] Ben is a divisive figure among Christorians; some of the aspects of Ben's interactions with Chris share similarities with Alec Benson Leary and Asperchu, with a comic that clearly parodies Chris's life and antics that Chris finds offensive and attempts to change. Like many of Chris's on-line adversaries in 2019, though, Saint sometimes behaves as a white knight, including fiery protests whenever somebody refuses to use Chris's tomgirl pronouns.[3]
Chris usurps Ben's comic
“ | His strips have some catching up to do to get to this point | ” |
Chris, on his unauthorized version of events based on Ben's comic[8] |
Ben began working on a comic, which mostly serves to promote the Discord server/game Endless War, which he runs. In the comic, Night Star banishes two My Little Pony characters, Strawberry Milk and Phantom Horn, to NLACakaNM, the land of the game. The latter character is a clear parody of Christorians, so obviously that even Chris notices it. Chris took a near immediate interest in the comics, as early as 16 September. Ben and Chris presumably opened correspondence soon after. As the narrative continued, however, Chris became more displeased with the directions it took. Meanwhile Chris also tried to play Endless War, a game managed by a bot on Ben's Discord server, but was killed and became frustrated.
This came to a head on 1 October 2019, when Chris began releasing Sonichu Special 6, his own drawings depicting what he wanted to happen in Ben's comic lore. Chris, role-playing as Magi-Chan, then sent Ben a DM both announcing/commanding that Ben make the comic as Chris willed, as well as demanding Ben provide Chris with $300.[9] Later, Chris would also return to the server and announce that he had revived himself with his goddess powers and that the bot's game was over, as Chris's comic canon had deemed it so. Unlike Sonichu #15, where the fancomic author in question approved of Chris using her work, Ben is much more resistant to Chris influencing the work, creating two concurrent and battling canons. In response to this, Ben accused Chris of committing genocide in his revisions, depicting his own characters being injured and killed by Chris's cleansing rains. Chris initially denied the charges, affirming that Ben's characters would just become normal humans.[10] However, he would later concede that there had been casualties, saying that 99% of the population of Arizona had survived, putting the death toll at approximately 70,000.[11] A week later, Chris would justify his overriding Ben's description of his own fictional universe by his superior psychic powers and ability to see into alternate dimensions.[12]
Saint would continue to draw his characters being massacred by the soda rain and beg Chris to stop, yet Chris maintained that he already had,[13] and that any deaths already inflicted were for the greater good. Chris tried to compose his message with a calm tone, but his annoyance at Ben still shone through, when he slipped up and ended the message writing as Magi-Chan instead of as himself.[14] Later, when Saint would depict his dead characters on a special story arc in hell,[15] or otherwise diverge his plot, Chris would demand Saint return to drawing his comic instead of pursuing his role-playing.[16] Like clockwork, white knights came in to defend Chris's actions and inject their own strain of nonsense into the mix, nominally to help Chris along. Jacob Sockness offered on 17 October to summon Jakoba, a demon god of his own invention, to demand even more reparations from Saint, yet Chris refused, instead accepting the Multidimensional White Knights' enlisting Ed Bighead, who was supposed to have became the king of Babylon in C-197 and was rallying an army to defend Chris from the slime.[17] Ben eventually relented, at least in part: he revived his characters that he had killed off earlier that month, using the same !revive command from his Discord server that Chris had used to declare himself resurrected. Chris approved, mentioning for no apparent reason at the same time that he endorses United States 2020 presidential candidate Andrew Yang.[18]
Further interactions with Ben, on Twitter as well as Discord, soon after deteriorated into continued disputes about whether or not Chris had committed fictional genocide. Accusations of hatred were common on both sides.[6] Ben would try to manipulate Chris's version of events by stating his fictional city was rained upon several time, while Chris would resist such changes to his version of events being inserted. Saint's publicity stunt was however stunted by Chris's shifting interests, as he devoted more attention to his trading card line and Jacob Sockness returned for a second round of weening after a fortnight's delay. On 19 October, Chris asserted that he had divine mandate from the CPU goddesses to supersede Ben's decisions about his comic.[19] Unlike Alec Benson Leary before him, Ben Saint has failed to gain Laughs Under Lucricities and acclaim from onlookers, but his heavy-handed approach to parody has given him a place beside the Idea Guys and Multidimensional White Knights in Christory.
Gallery
Comic page by Chris explaining the fate of Liquid Chris, commissioned by Ben.
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5355713
- ↑ https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1183215112305479680
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 Saint's Twitter, archived 8 October 2019
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFOIauPQ5XI&t Sonichu 101: A CWC Lecture
- ↑ https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid_Chris#In_the_comic
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 Saint appeals to followers to donate $13,000 to save his fictional characters from his plot LARPing, 14 October 2019
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-reddit-chris-roleplaying-as-magi-chan-megathread.59768/post-5193650
- ↑ https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1179253019847860226
- ↑ October 2019 social media posts#DM'ing Ben Saint to demand $300
- ↑ File:ChrisGenocide.jpeg
- ↑ The population of Arizona in 2019 was approximately 7,000,000.
- ↑ Chris justifies his canon wars by goddesshood, 13 October 2019
- ↑ Chris tells a random Saint supporter that his 'cleansing rains' have stopped, 12 October 2019
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863
- ↑ Chris complains about dead characters, 10 October 2019|
- ↑ Chris insists Ben get back to work, 14 October 2019
- ↑ White knights present bids for Chris, 17 October 2019
- ↑ Saint revives his characters and Chris joins the Yang Gang, 16 October 2019
- ↑ Ben and Chris continue to argue about genocide, 19 October 2019
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