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Chris is somewhat capable of '''socializing''', in contrast to the epic failure of his [[Love Quest]]. Being a nerd and, as of [[2014]], a [[Tomgirl|member of the LGBT community]], Chris has common interests with his friends. Awkwardness arises when Chris attempts to take part in conversations which exceed his limited interests, as his broken social filter and lack of common social etiquette due to his [[autism]] can lead to him saying [[Honest Content|inappropriate things]] or attempting to steer the topic to cartoons, video games, or the [[SLGBTQ]].  
Chris is somewhat capable of '''socializing''', despite what one may assume, given aspects like his social awkwardness and the epic failure of his [[Love Quest]]. Being a nerd and, as of [[2014]], a [[Tomgirl|member of the LGBT community]], Chris has common interests and values with his friends. Awkwardness arises when Chris attempts to take part in conversations which exceed his limited interests, as his broken social filter and lack of common social etiquette due to his [[autism]] can lead to him saying [[Honest Content|inappropriate things]] or attempting to steer the topic to cartoons, video games, [[Messiah complex|godhood]], or the [[SLGBTQ]].  


==In real life==
==In real life==
[[File:Cwc and cwc.jpg|thumb|Chris likes to bring in his dolls to play with at his Pokémon club, even though he has friends there.]]
The earliest known example of Chris socializing with someone other than [[Borb]] were his interactions with [[Sarah Hammer]], who moved in next door to the Chandlers when he was approximately three years old. Chris fondly remembers using her swing set, playing hide and seek among other things <ref>[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood]]</ref> <ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>, but he, far from a good judge of character even in his younger days, seemed oblivious to that Sarah might have had less than good intentions. At least twice, she could've caused him harm of her own volition, locking him in a crawlspace and convincing him an (allegedly) poisonous flower tasted like honey ([[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|both incidents he nonchalantly documented]], in stark contrast to [[Kick the Autistic|what he thinks of perceived wrongdoers]]).


Chris has some friends which he knows from an all-ages [[Pokémon]] club in [[Charlottesville]]. He has them added on his Facebook friends list and they occasionally comment on his updates.
He stated his formative years also included interactions with "other neighborhood children"<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref> (Chris himself noted [[Gal-pals|they were mainly girls]]), not to mention he befriended [[Joshua Martinez]] (who'd eventually troll him) when attending speech therapy.


One, a woman in her mid-20s named Alexa, repeatedly advised him on how to get a job after seeing him [[beg]] for money online.<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Barb pawns jewelry, Chris decides to join Patreon]]</ref> Naturally, Chris failed to follow through on her suggestion, instead choosing to respond by writing up a rant on why he doesn't want to work.<ref>[[April 2017 Facebook posts#Chris explains why he won't get a job]]</ref> Alexa gave up on attempting to help him after that, though she remained on his friend list.
More notably, [[Manchester High|in his high school years]], he attended classes and ate lunch with a female circle of friends (because he found the [[JERKS|males]], except for his older friend [[Joseph Herring]], to be immature). However, the only time they were ever known to have spent time with each other outside Manchester High was for [[My big 18th party|his 18th birthday party]] (and even then, no photos of the occasion show him and even one of the girls near each other). Chris found out about 15 years later that they were never legitimate friends; their attention was paid for by [[Bob]] and arranged by the principal in a misguided attempt to socialize Chris.


In between her efforts to help him be something other than a drain on society, Alexa was in his company outside of their common Pokémon group, when she saw ''The Lego Batman Movie'' with him.<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Watching new Lego movies]]</ref>
After high school, and in particular after he was suspended from [[college]], Chris used whatever free time he wasn't using at home to attempt socializing in the wild, whether it be for attempting to score [[sweetheart]]s or otherwise. His most notable social endeavors occurred at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where he met [[Megan Schroeder]]. The two formed a strong friendship, but Chris failed to pick up how she merely wanted to be just friends with him, even when she outright told him so numerous times. To cut a long story short, [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|things went]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|very rocky]], and by 2008 Megan had severed ties with him (and Chris would be banned from the aforementioned GAMe PLACe, due to acting too hostile to other patrons and card game players).


One of Chris's other friends from the club is a black woman, showing that he's made progress in his views of [[race]].<ref>[[January 2017 Facebook Posts#Encouraging a friend]]</ref>
In [[2014]], Chris began attending [[Cville Pride]] and the [[Impulse Gay Social Club]], both of which would gradually become frequent hangout spots for him. These would serve as stepping stones for Chris to further grow out of his shell, and he later began regularly attending other places of that ilk, including LGBT events at [[University of Virginia]]. The next year would see him attending [[The End Games]] (a card game store) before being banned in 2018. There, he met a few adult [[Pokémon League friends]] who hung out with him outside of the club.


He requested one of his friends to take a photo of him holding a pose while wearing [[The Classic]] and [[medallion]]. Chris then used the image to photoshop himself, his parents, and his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] into a group picture, dubbing it a family portrait.
[[File:Cwc cville pride 2017.jpg|thumb||200px|left|At Cville Pride.]]
 
His friends seem to put up with his quirks and there appears to be a pity factor as well, as noted by [[Emily]]:
 
{{quotebox|Chris legitimately has friends, even if it's a one sided friendship that's only done out of pity. When I ran into Chris at Omegacon, he was more or less being guarded by a middle aged woman who brings her kids to the Pokémon events at the local game store. She was asking me very specific questions but kept pushing when I would give vague answers.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chriss-newest-gal-pal-revealed.28532/page-7#post-2079295</ref>}}
 
Chris wasn't shy about asking them to acquire toys for him from places at which he is banned. According to the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]]'s intel:
 
{{quotebox|Heh, at one point, he had some older, married woman buying him his amiibos for him. I think she was one of the mother's of one of the little kids he plays Pokémon with. That cracked me up because it was like Chris was a drug addict, finding someone to smuggle him his fix.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-212#post-2368535</ref>}}
 
This was confirmed in a Facebook post from August 2016,<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Help me buy a Pokemon card]]</ref> in which Chris asked two of his friends if they would buy Pokémon cards on his behalf from [[Gamestop]].


[[File:Cwc cville pride 2017.jpg|thumb||200px|left|At Cville Pride.]]
Eventually, though, Chris regressed back into staying at home, giving up real life socializing in favor of his [[imaginary friends]] and internet [[enablers]]. He would nevertheless continue going to certain places such as [[conventions]] until [[Jail Saga|late 2021]].
Chris also enjoys going to LGBT events such as [[Cville Pride]] and those held at [[University of Virginia]]. Not much is known about how he socializes there.


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==Over the Internet==
==Over the Internet==
In 2017, he began attempts to socialize on Twitter with women he sees as potential [[gal-pals]], including voice actresses from some of his favorite shows. His tweets seem to illustrate how he tries to fit into conversations - namely, that he likes to shoehorn in references to cartoons.<ref>[[2017 tweets]]</ref>  
The Internet, for decades, has been one of Chris's primary tools for socializing. Chris has regularly used social media websites, dating websites, and some forums as tools to talk with others and hopefully make either some new friends and/or sweethearts.
 
In 2017, he made attempts to socialize on Twitter with women he sees as potential [[gal-pals]], including voice actresses from some of his favorite shows. His tweets seem to illustrate how he tries to fit into conversations - namely, that he likes to shoehorn in references to cartoons.<ref>[[2017 tweets]]</ref>  


===Planet Dolan===
===Planet Dolan===
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[[File:Doopiedrawing.jpg|thumb|Chris commissioned this from Doopie.]]
[[File:Doopiedrawing.jpg|thumb|Chris commissioned this from Doopie.]]


Doopie is a voice actress/animator for the YouTube channel [[Planet Dolan]]. Chris discovered the channel in August 2016 and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His social awkwardness in full display, he has tweeted to her on the subjects of poop,<ref>[[2017 tweets#Poop]]</ref> his hatred of online dating,<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref> and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" ''My Little Pony'' T-shirt.<ref>[[2017 tweets#Hitting on Doopie]]</ref>
Doopie is a voice actress/animator for the YouTube channel [[Planet Dolan]]. Chris discovered the channel in August 2016 and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His social awkwardness in full display, he tweeted to her on the subjects of poop,<ref>[[2017 tweets#Poop]]</ref> his hatred of online dating,<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref> and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" ''My Little Pony'' T-shirt.<ref>[[2017 tweets#Hitting on Doopie]]</ref>


In June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon. A Like on her post, which is hidden behind a paywall, implies that Chris is pledging $25 per month to her.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-7-12-chris-argues-with-a-fool.32246/page-6#post-2426664</ref> He has also paid her $25 for a commission to serve as a profile picture. Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the [[Financhu Crisis]], and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for $50, ostensibly to help him and his mother.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Resuming begging]]</ref>
In June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon. A Like on her post, which is hidden behind a paywall, implies that Chris is pledging $25 per month to her.<ref>https://archive.md/52tZh</ref> He has also paid her $25 for a commission to serve as a profile picture. Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the [[Financhu Crisis]], and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for $50, ostensibly to help him and his mother.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Resuming begging]]</ref>


Doopie is fully aware of Chris’s online reputation, and sees him as just another customer, as she explained:
Doopie is fully aware of Chris’s online reputation, and sees him as just another customer, as she explained:


{{quotebox|I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.
{{quoteboxyellow|I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.


(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris]]</ref>}}
(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris]]</ref>}}


On 25 August 2017, Chris tweeted to LadyOfTheCosmo, a close friend of Doopie, on Twitter. He consequently got destroyed by her in an ensuing tweet war.
On 25 August 2017, Chris tweeted to [[LadyOfTheCosmo]], a close friend of Doopie, on Twitter. He consequently got destroyed by her in an ensuing tweet war.
 
===MLP voice actresses===
{{see also|My Little Pony}}
 
Chris also enjoys tweeting to VAs from ''[[My Little Pony]]''.
 
*Tara Strong
 
Apparently his favorite of the lot. Ironically, in 2013, a few years before Chris started tweeting to her, Tara publicly criticized Chris, saying:
 
{{quotebox|I don't think I've seen anyone put an ugly spin on something this outrageously for their own attention. Anyone who follows me know that I'm on a huge anti-bullying platform, and even wrote and produced a song about it.
 
All my "twolling" as we on Twitter call it is completely adorable and makes people smile. Christian's article makes me angry & disappointed. Hope I never meet the guy.<ref>[[February 2013 Facebook posts#Open Letter to Tara Strong]]</ref>}}
 
*Tabitha St. Germain
 
She blocked Chris's account on 3 August, explaining that it wasn't because of Chris, but rather the "swarm of trolls" that follow him when he tags her, which causes her Twitter feed to be flooded with spam. Chris created a sockpuppet account, [[NightStar2891]], in order to evade her and [[DoopieDoOver]]'s blocks. Despite Tabitha's warnings that she does not want to be tagged regarding Internet drama and that she would block anyone who did so, Chris chose to send her a 21-tweet message on 16 August, trying to convince her that he was a kind person who learns from mistakes and wanting to earn her friendship. Tabitha reacted by blocking the NightStar account as well.<ref>[[NightStar2891 tweets#Twitter spam for Tabitha]]</ref>
 
*Cathy Weseluck
 
Chris met her at the August 2017 [[BronyCon]]. He proceeded to tweet to her an open letter about how he was asked to remove his [[unicorn cosplay]] in church.
 
*Andrea Libman
 
Chris sent her a link to [[A little Fluttershy singing (imitation)|a video of him singing a Sesame Street song as the Christine Doll]].
 
*Michelle Creber
Chris met her at the August 2017 [[BronyCon]]. He followed her on Twitter that same month, as well as her mother.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-261#post-2527284</ref> He also began pledging to her Patreon.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-260#post-2526100</ref>
 
*Jessi Nowack
Also known as Nowacking. While not a VA for the show itself, she does voice work for the show's fandom. On 26 August 2017, she posted a series of tweets on relationships and online dating. Chris commented on her tweets, praising her, as well as going off-topic to talk about his history of being trolled.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets‎#Relationships and online dating]]</ref>
 
[[Weens]], led by [[Michael Hirtes]], then spammed Nowacking with accusations against Chris, telling her she should block him.
 
Later, on 27 August, Chris discovered that Nowacking had blocked him and lay blame on the weens for it. Nowacking herself has not commented on her reason for the block. Chris continued following her by using his [[NightStar2891]] sockpuppet,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-27-blocked-once-again-must-be-the-trolls-fault.33705/page-4#post-2547621</ref> although she later blocked that account as well.
 
Undeterred, Chris created a new sockpuppet account, [[TwiSparLicious]], to follow her and others who had him blocked. Chris stopped following Nowacking on that account after [[Jessica Quinn]] temporarily broke up with him over Chris using TwiSparLicious.


==Conventions==
==Conventions==
{{Main|List of conventions attended by Chris}}


[[File:Bc1 with RarifriendHN.jpg|thumb|Typical Chris at a convention.]]
==Looking forward==
 
In [[August 2021]], Chris was arrested after it was revealed he had engaged in [[Affair With Mother|incestuous acts]] with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]]. Chris eventually received an [[Autism_disorder_deferred_disposition|autism disorder deferred disposition]] after a lengthy court process (that included a stint in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], a stay at a [[Western State Hospital|psychiatric hospital]], and a [[Gateway Homes|group home]] transfer). Due to the deferred disposition program, Chris was released from jail in [[March 2023]] and his case was dismissed in [[August 2023]]. Chris gradually returned to social media where he resumed his usual antics.
In recent years, whenever Chris is interested in a nearby convention that has been organized and announced, and [[Barb]] doesn't get in the way, he will not fail to attend it. When Chris attends one of these conventions, Chris generally has a blast due to going outside and socializing with people [[Doopie|instead of stalking people on the Internet]] and sitting around all day playing [[vidya]]. Another possible reason for Chris' appeal in conventions is the fact that he is surrounded by people with similar interests, therefore he is able to converse with them.
 
===Anime Mid-Atlantic===
 
{{Main|Anime Mid-Atlantic}}
 
The first convention Chris has attended.
 
===OmegaCon===
 
{{Main|OmegaCon}}
 
Chris attended OmegaCon in August 2015, 10 whole years after his visit to Anime Mid-Atlantic. He went alone and dressed up as Vinyl Scratch and attended a cosplaying contest that he lost. He went back the next year and attended all three days from winning a free ticket from the last year.
 
===BronyCon===
 
{{Main|BronyCon}}
 
As a devoted fan of [[My Little Pony]], Chris attended the convention in [[August 2017]]. He wore the [[Medallion]] and brought the [[Christine Doll]], as well as a rainbow wig (which was later subbed for a convention-bought pony horn with ears). He met Cathy Weseluck, a voice actress for the show, and had his photo taken with her.
 
===MAGfest===


{{main|MAGfest}}
A mysterious woman nicknamed [[Flutter]] by Chris has been routinely spotted hanging out with him in public following the dismissal of his charge; she had reached out to Chris while he was in jail, and her role or purpose in interacting with him is unknown.


Chris attended in 2018.
Chris apparently still maintains contact with his mother, although now living separately from her. According to a comment in April 2024 by Gamer from Mars, Chris said he meets with her about once a month.<ref>[[The Chris Chan Conspiracy#Interview comments]]</ref> While Chris didn't socialize much with his extended family prior to the incest, he may have a more difficult time with it now, given that his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]] banned him from their home upon initially learning of the incest.


===TooManyGames===
Even after his release, the affair still comes back to haunt him. Chris attempted to resume going to [[conventions]] as he had before the incest charge, but quickly found himself [[ban]]ned from at least two - [[Animate! Raleigh]] and [[BABSCon]], the latter literally declaring him persona non grata.
 
{{main|TooManyGames}}
 
In June 2018, Chris was able to attend Too Many Games after begging his audience to help finance his trip. Notably, he was thrown out on the second day for inappropriately touching multiple attendees.
 
== See Also ==


==See Also==
*[[Chris and kindness]]
*[[Chris and kindness]]
*[[COVID-19]]


==Sources==
==Sources==
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Chris, surrounded by family and friends.

Chris is somewhat capable of socializing, despite what one may assume, given aspects like his social awkwardness and the epic failure of his Love Quest. Being a nerd and, as of 2014, a member of the LGBT community, Chris has common interests and values with his friends. Awkwardness arises when Chris attempts to take part in conversations which exceed his limited interests, as his broken social filter and lack of common social etiquette due to his autism can lead to him saying inappropriate things or attempting to steer the topic to cartoons, video games, godhood, or the SLGBTQ.

In real life

The earliest known example of Chris socializing with someone other than Borb were his interactions with Sarah Hammer, who moved in next door to the Chandlers when he was approximately three years old. Chris fondly remembers using her swing set, playing hide and seek among other things [1] [2], but he, far from a good judge of character even in his younger days, seemed oblivious to that Sarah might have had less than good intentions. At least twice, she could've caused him harm of her own volition, locking him in a crawlspace and convincing him an (allegedly) poisonous flower tasted like honey (both incidents he nonchalantly documented, in stark contrast to what he thinks of perceived wrongdoers).

He stated his formative years also included interactions with "other neighborhood children"[3] (Chris himself noted they were mainly girls), not to mention he befriended Joshua Martinez (who'd eventually troll him) when attending speech therapy.

More notably, in his high school years, he attended classes and ate lunch with a female circle of friends (because he found the males, except for his older friend Joseph Herring, to be immature). However, the only time they were ever known to have spent time with each other outside Manchester High was for his 18th birthday party (and even then, no photos of the occasion show him and even one of the girls near each other). Chris found out about 15 years later that they were never legitimate friends; their attention was paid for by Bob and arranged by the principal in a misguided attempt to socialize Chris.

After high school, and in particular after he was suspended from college, Chris used whatever free time he wasn't using at home to attempt socializing in the wild, whether it be for attempting to score sweethearts or otherwise. His most notable social endeavors occurred at The GAMe PLACe, where he met Megan Schroeder. The two formed a strong friendship, but Chris failed to pick up how she merely wanted to be just friends with him, even when she outright told him so numerous times. To cut a long story short, things went very rocky, and by 2008 Megan had severed ties with him (and Chris would be banned from the aforementioned GAMe PLACe, due to acting too hostile to other patrons and card game players).

In 2014, Chris began attending Cville Pride and the Impulse Gay Social Club, both of which would gradually become frequent hangout spots for him. These would serve as stepping stones for Chris to further grow out of his shell, and he later began regularly attending other places of that ilk, including LGBT events at University of Virginia. The next year would see him attending The End Games (a card game store) before being banned in 2018. There, he met a few adult Pokémon League friends who hung out with him outside of the club.

At Cville Pride.

Eventually, though, Chris regressed back into staying at home, giving up real life socializing in favor of his imaginary friends and internet enablers. He would nevertheless continue going to certain places such as conventions until late 2021.

Over the Internet

The Internet, for decades, has been one of Chris's primary tools for socializing. Chris has regularly used social media websites, dating websites, and some forums as tools to talk with others and hopefully make either some new friends and/or sweethearts.

In 2017, he made attempts to socialize on Twitter with women he sees as potential gal-pals, including voice actresses from some of his favorite shows. His tweets seem to illustrate how he tries to fit into conversations - namely, that he likes to shoehorn in references to cartoons.[4]

Planet Dolan

Main articles: Planet Dolan, DoopieDoOver, and LadyOfTheCosmo
Chris commissioned this from Doopie.

Doopie is a voice actress/animator for the YouTube channel Planet Dolan. Chris discovered the channel in August 2016 and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His social awkwardness in full display, he tweeted to her on the subjects of poop,[5] his hatred of online dating,[6] and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" My Little Pony T-shirt.[7]

In June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon. A Like on her post, which is hidden behind a paywall, implies that Chris is pledging $25 per month to her.[8] He has also paid her $25 for a commission to serve as a profile picture. Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the Financhu Crisis, and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for $50, ostensibly to help him and his mother.[9]

Doopie is fully aware of Chris’s online reputation, and sees him as just another customer, as she explained:

I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.

(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.[10]

On 25 August 2017, Chris tweeted to LadyOfTheCosmo, a close friend of Doopie, on Twitter. He consequently got destroyed by her in an ensuing tweet war.

Conventions

Main article: List of conventions attended by Chris

Looking forward

In August 2021, Chris was arrested after it was revealed he had engaged in incestuous acts with his mother. Chris eventually received an autism disorder deferred disposition after a lengthy court process (that included a stint in Central Virginia Regional Jail, a stay at a psychiatric hospital, and a group home transfer). Due to the deferred disposition program, Chris was released from jail in March 2023 and his case was dismissed in August 2023. Chris gradually returned to social media where he resumed his usual antics.

A mysterious woman nicknamed Flutter by Chris has been routinely spotted hanging out with him in public following the dismissal of his charge; she had reached out to Chris while he was in jail, and her role or purpose in interacting with him is unknown.

Chris apparently still maintains contact with his mother, although now living separately from her. According to a comment in April 2024 by Gamer from Mars, Chris said he meets with her about once a month.[11] While Chris didn't socialize much with his extended family prior to the incest, he may have a more difficult time with it now, given that his Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom banned him from their home upon initially learning of the incest.

Even after his release, the affair still comes back to haunt him. Chris attempted to resume going to conventions as he had before the incest charge, but quickly found himself banned from at least two - Animate! Raleigh and BABSCon, the latter literally declaring him persona non grata.

See Also

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