CopperCab

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Michael Tyler Kittrell (born 29 October 1992), also known as CopperCab and Claire Kittrell, is an American YouTube personality, best known for his debut video, "GINGERS DO HAVE SOULS!!", a rant about South Park joking about redheads not having souls, and his numerous videos involving him irately ranting about a number of different subjects. He would later be parodied in South Park.

In October 2017, Chris re-enacted "GINGERS DO HAVE SOULS!!". A week later, Kittrell noticed the video and re-enacted the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown video Chris had made ten years prior, also recording an interview with Chris, along with Coppercab's friend and editor Cameron Nahas.

Interview

A Conversation With CHRIS CHAN! (Part 1)
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There is an upbeat jingle that plays for about ten seconds. CopperCab is wearing a mask of Sulley from Monsters Inc. Chris has some sort of mask on, if anyone knows please edit this.

CopperCab: Yeah, it's not live. It's gonna be edited. [CopperCab motions his hands as if typing on a keyboard]

Chris: Yeah? [Chris pushes his mask closer on his face and somewhat waves to the camera]

CopperCab: It's not a livestream.

Cameron: So, we're gonna pretend to start now, okay?

Chris: [Chris holds his Sonichu and Rosechu amiibos up to the camera] Pretend to start?

Cameron: Okay. Hello everybody, welcome-

Chris: Yooooooo!

[Cameron laughs politely]

CopperCab: [Waves to camera] What up?

Cameron: Welcome to this special interview we've got with Christine... and CopperCab.

CopperCab: Christine?

Chris: Me.

CopperCab: This isn't just Christine. This is an internet legend-

Cameron: This is.

CopperCab: This is an internet figure. I mean, come on! This is Chri- this is Christine "Chris-Chan" Weston Chandler-

Cameron: This is!

CopperCab: The creator of [muffled, probably Sonichu] and Rosechu, the greatest fucking comic book on the inter- ever made, [Cameron laughs]] like in the internet! Like, this is amazing, it's a huge deal! [Chris holds his Sonichu and Rosechu amiibo up again.]

Cameron: Well, there we go, we've got the best inter- best introduction there.

CopperCab: I'm a huge fucking fan! [Cameron laughs] I'm a huge fan!

Cameron: So, wha-what are those two things you're holding there, Christine?

Chris: Sonichu and Rosechu! They're-

CopperCab: [muffled] those.

Chris: Prototype amiibo figures!

Cameron: [unclear]

CopperCab: Now are you gonna- are you selling these right now?

Chris: Ugh, I did start at them, I did make 'em for a while, but then I got tired, and just a bunch- and jus- that happened with my Etsy shop, so...

CopperCab: Yeah?

Chris: We'll still- We'll find somebody else who can do these well, and get 'em back up on the market.

CopperCab: You wanna- really quickly, even before the whole interview starts, do you wanna say your email, if anybody watching this is an amiibo creator? If you want to, like a business [muffled]?

Chris: [Puts amiibos down] Okay. Yeah, uh, business emails can go to "sonichumanager@gmail.com".

Cameron: Alrighty.

Coppercab: And we'll put it in the description-

Cameron: Yes.

CopperCab: We'll put it in the top of the description.

Cameron: We'll stick it in there.

CopperCab: If anybody [muffled, Chris says something but is also muffled] amiibos, contact Christine.

Cameron: Well, um, so thi-this interview, wha-what I would really like to get out of this is to show the-the, you-you two share a lot in common, you know? You really do, you've both been trolled heavily on the internet. You-daily, this happens now, you just have to go through a CopperCab video, or a Christine's (sic) video, and you will see people saying the most hideous things to both of you.

CopperCab: Well, it's not all- it's not all- it's not all negative.

Cameron: It's not all negative, and I've noticed a big change.

CopperCab: You just have to find- you have to not pay attention to the negative shit.

Cameron: Yeah.

CopperCab: The garbage. It's not- cause it doesn't add anything to the world.

Cameron: Yes.

Coppercab: Negativity doesn't do anything, like negativity is what goton- what got Donald Trump elected, you know?

Chris: Yeah.

Coppercab: If we were positive, and were more optimistic and had hope, like Obama, we would have her in office.

Cameron: Yeah.

CopperCab: We'd have Hil-

Chris: Yes.

Cameron: We'd have Hillary in there. So, should we address the elephant in the room quickly? The elephant in the room is that you're both wearing masks.

CopperCab: What do you mean by the elephant... [goes off camera for a second]

Chris: Happy Halloween! Urr, numby numby numby, urr!

CopperCab: [returns with a stuffed elephant that he holds up to the camera] Talking about the elephant?

[Cameron and Chris both laugh. CopperCab and Chris make elephant noises]

Cameron: So-

Chris: [Chris holds a figurine of Derpy up to the camera] Muffins! Fluffy Muffins!

[CopperCab holds up a stuffed Pikachu to the camera]

CopperCab: Oh, I like that My Little Pony doll.

Cameron: Aww.

CopperCab: Is that Derpy? It's hard to s-

Chris: [Chris holds Derpy up again] My name is Muffins!

Cameron: Muffins.

CopperCab: Oh, Muff- Oh, so are we gonna take our masks off right now?

Cameron: So what I was- I-I thought this is a good thing to show for- quickly, is that, do you two ever feel like you have to hide behind a mask because of the trolls? Because you-

Chris: No.

Cameron: Have to put something on to protect yourself.

Chris: Uh, with me, since I hardee been damaged emuff, [removes mask] I don't think so.

Cameron: No? That's good. I'm glad.

Chris: No. Now my glasses are slipping off. [removes his glasses]

Cameron: So, do you wanna take your-yours off, uh, Co-Copper?

[CopperCab removes his Sulley mask to reveal another Batman mask. Cameron gasps and CopperCab backs away from the camera.]

Chris: Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na...

CopperCab: [Comes close to camera] Batman! [Cameron chuckles, Chris makes a noise.] Batman.

Cameron: So now's the other one. [CopperCab removes the Batman mask] And there we go.

CopperCab: Ugh, that was hot, that mask is hot, [muffled]

Chris: Yeah, masks don't do well with me either, I perspire easily for some reason.

CopperCab: Me too- Me too! I have a really bad sweat problem, and I also have a bad saliva problem. Like I-

Chris: [muffled]

CopperCab: You can- It's kinda gross, but...

Cameron: Yeah.

CopperCab: We all h- you know what? Nobody's perfect.

Cameron: No- and it's those imperfections that make us unique, and make us special too.

Chris: Yeah, we're not flawless.

Cameron: No. If we were all perfect, we'd all be the same.

Chris: And it'd be boring.

Cameron: And it'd be boring. That'd be very boring.

CopperCab: Yeah, there'd never be a Sonichu.

Cameron: There never would, no.

CopperCab: 'Cause it takes a person like Christine to create Sonichu.

Cameron: It does.

[Chris waves to the camera]

CopperCab: Just like a person like Miyamoto to come up with, like, Mario. Stuff like that.

Cameron: So do you wanna tell us about, uh, Sonichu. Tell us, uh, like, maybe a history or something, like I'm not saying go into everything, 'cause I know there's a whole world-

CopperCab: Yeah, I was gonna say, 'cause-

Cameron: For Sonichu.

Chris: 'Kay.

Cameron: But, like, how it got started, and, uh, w-what it is you expect to happen in the future for Sonichu.

Chris: Uh, okay, well it's a- Sonichu started off back in March 2000 and came into my head as I was thinking of inspiration for an idea to put on a CD cover for computer pr- computer graphics class that I was taking in High School, and, uh, didn't like copyrighted characters, so I obviously combined Sonic and Pikachu, and made Sonichu, and then a few years later, [CopperCab holds up his stuffed Pikachu, Chris holds up Sonichu #0] [muffled] the first book.

Cameron: There we go.

CopperCab: [Celebrates and applauds] Wooh!

Cameron: And is that the actual first copy? So the- this is- is this a replica or is that the first one?

Chris: Um, it's the first book in the series, this is a printed copy from my unnamed printing publisher company.

Cameron: Okay.

Chris: I say unnamed because I don't want, uh, it to get sabotaged.

Cameron: Yeah, that's okay.

CopperCab: Yeah, you don't-

Cameron: So, do you have the original?

Chris: Oh yeah, I still have the original pages in the binders.

Cameron: Oh, that's great. That's good.

Chris: Yeah, and they- yeah, all the old- all them survived the house fire 2014, they did not get burned or drenched.

Cameron: That's good.

CopperCab: I was gonna ask you, um-

Cameron: Your mic seems to be covered a little bit, uh, Copper.

CopperCab: Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, how- I was gonna ask you, how much did you lose in the fire, Christine?

Chris: Uhhhhhh, bit here and there, I lost most of my father's record collection, bunch of his VHS tapes, they had a lot of, uh- we recor-record music from radio shows and old movies. Uh, but yeah, I means- I mean, bunch of them had melted 'cause they were on the highest- on the topmost shelves, uh, even some of the things that were on the topmost part, uh, in the background where Copper, you had, uh, the background, obviously you did that of a green screen, the PaRappa rein- re- recr- uh, reenaction. Uh, yeah, the megazords, and the, hmm, the [here he appears to say pitso brick creations? I have no idea what that is, if another user does please edit this.] they melted up there.

CopperCab: Aww, I'm sorry to hear that.

Cameron: Did that have a lot of effect on you?

Chris: Yeah, just- my room was a m- my old room was a mess. The firefighters had to tear a hole in the c- in the- to the roof for the smoke to clear out, and then- there's just- and it was difficult to get in there and they had to tear w- tear a hole through another wall just to get into my room and do that.

Cameron: Yeah.

Chris: It's...

CopperCab: Jeez.

Chris: Yeah. Mess.

CopperCab: Now wait, your room, your room didn't actually catch on fire in your room as well?

Chris: Uh, the fire started, yeah, near- in the bathroom downstairs, it wasn't so close to th- to that, uh, the fire- I don't know how high the fire got up, obviously the heat rose.

Cameron: Mmm.

CopperCab: Yeah.

Chris: So-

CopperCab: As it does, yeah, it rises.

Cameron: A lot of smoke damage as well, I'm guessing.

CopperCab: What- what do you think started the fire? 'Cause that- honestly, when that happened, I remember when that happened, I was so- I was really scared for you, 'cause I thought that something happened to you or Barbara, or, like, I was worried, and like, when that happened, I read, like, that on the news.

Chris: Okay, we had a coffee maker, a Keurig coffee maker, uh, coffee brewer, we used the K-cups, we left it plugged in, we should have unplugged it, it was plugged in on extension cord, and, due- undue situations that could- that did not allow us to resituate it, or for something less obtrusive, the extension cord was hanging over the bathroom door, and obviously something when you got- [demonstrates with his hands] something on the arch, going up and down like a roller coaster, something's gonna hit on the apex.

CopperCab: Yeah.

Chris: And that's where the fire started.

CopperCab: So that bathroom got torched, huh?

Chris: Yeah. Ground zero.

Cameron: So was there anything of yours that was very, um, significant to you that got lost in that fire?

Chris: Uh...

Cameron: Apart from your- I know you said your dad's, uh, records got lost.

Chris: Yeah, I had hanging on my bedroom wall the- a few things, um, including the, somebody had made me the [unclear] hanging on the wall. Uh, the Asperchu Medallion-

Cameron: Oh.

Chris: And my father's- and my father's sail- uh, cap, his red hat with a logo on it, had a ship on it. That got torn up there.

Cameron: And the-

CopperCab: What was-

Cameron: Carry-

CopperCab: What was the evil, what was the evil, uh, not the evil, but the opposite of Sonichu? It was black, red.

Chris: Uh, you mean Black Sonichu or Blake.

CopperCab: Yeah, Blake. What d- whatever happened to that?

Chris: Um-

CopperCab: 'Cause you never really see it anymore.

Chris: Uh, well, we do see him in this one, you know, he got reformed, and he ended up with Bubbles.

CopperCab: Oh, okay.

Chris: You didn't read Book 8? Where-

CopperCab: I havent'- okay, I have- I haven't read past, like, Book 5. 5 or 6.

Chris: Yeah. [holds up Sonichu #8] Book 8.

CopperCab: You don't- you don't see much of him.

Cameron: Wow.

CopperCab: That's really pretty. I like the cover.

Chris: Yeah, there's 2 versions of this one, that's uh, you know, s- one that's generally p- generally it's okay to be published, and there's one that's NSFW [Chris holds up the "TV-MA" version of Sonichu #8] it's got more pages in that.

Cameron: Oh, wow.

CopperCab: NSFW, hey. [winks to the camera]

Cameron: Wow, do you do NSFW of all of them? [Chris holds both versions of Sonichu #8 up]

CopperCab: Like that.

Chris: N- no. I mean, you can tell the difference between the two on the side there. [Chris holds them together to show the TV-MA label on one of them]

Cameron: Yeah.

Chris: Just to let you know, this one is the NSFW version. [points at label]

CopperCab: Do you sell these? Like, are you selling these right now? Like right now?

Chris: Yeah, I'm- I'm, uh, giving- I'm s- um, among the pledges on my Patreon I'm distributing to that until, uh, such a time when we can have the, uh, books, uh, uh, sold in the comic book stores or book stores everywhere.

CopperCab: Yeah c- cause I wanted- I- I've been wanting to buy the rest of them, like- 'cause after 1 through 5 I h- I don't have the r- the other ones. I wanted to buy like 6, you know? Or 7, like I'll- if you- if you s- if- if like, I'll-I'll email you privately about it after this.

Chris: Yeah, we'll talk about that [unclear, is cut off by Cameron]

Cameron: Yeah, maybe we can get a link in h- in this video, for people who may- who might wanna buy your comics and, uh, other things that you sell.

CopperCab: Yeah.

Chris: Uh, well right now there's, uh, only the, uh, my Patreon.

Cameron: So you have a Patreon too.

Chris: I'm typing the link to that.

Cameron: Okay.

Chris: And I would have to look it up, there's the red bubble store.

Cameron: Okay. So, I wanted to go back quickly to the, uh, Sonichu stuff, like, um, so you created it because of copyright issues. [CopperCab holds his stuffed Pikachu up to the camera, Chris smiles at it] You- there was, uh, Pikachu and Sonic, and they became Sonichu.

[CopperCab wiggles the Pikachu and makes a silly noise, Cameron laughs]

Chris: Yeah.

Coppercab: PIK! Pika!

Cameron: And, um, [Chris holds his Sonichu amiibo up] you've also created other p- other characters-

Chris: Sonichu! Sonichu! [makes silly noise]

CopperCab: Pik! Pika!

Chris: Sonichu! Sonichu! Sonichu!

Cameron: So-

Chris: I'm zapping to the extreme! We're having lots of fun here! [Cameron laughs]

CopperCab: Pikachu, cast thunderbolt on Sonichu! Thunderbolt! Piiii Pikachuuuu!

Cameron: [laughs] God.

Chris: Thunderbolt. Zap zap zap zap zap zap zap. Oh shoot.

CopperCab: [begins crumpling his Pikachu] No, you hurt my Pikachu! [he drops it on the floor] Ahhh!

Cameron: Well, you lost.

CopperCab: Sonichu's power level is too strong. [Chris laughs]

Cameron: So do you think that-

Chris: Sonichu!

Cameron: How- how was, um, Sonichu born? W- did Pikachu and Sonic maybe have an affair?

Chris: [scoffs] No.

Cameron: Where they-

CopperCab: No!

Chris: No.

Cameron: No?

Chris: No. No.

Cameron: I don't know, like how did these two merge?

Chris: [in a sing-songy voice] In the year 2000 or 1998 depend (sic) on how you interpret it [Cameron laughs, CopperCab claps and moves his head in tune. Chris shows the camera page one of Sonichu #0] da, da, da, the Perfect Chaos Monster attacked Station Square, and there was Pikachu in the fields nearby. [Coppercab holds his stuffed Pikachu up]

Cameron: Wow. [laughs]

Chris: And the so- and the s- And the Sonic began to [unclear] [Chris holds up page 2 and 3] and tried to... [CopperCab holds his Pikachu and Sully mask and has them "kiss"]

Cameron: Oh, so this the creation.

Chris: And- and- and then there's- the Super Sonic and the Pikachu met. Pikachu was standing by at the time Super Sonic came [unclear], and then bam! A power rainbow, and with the Raichu on the other end.

Cameron: Wow.

Chris: And all the other [unclear] came out, make all the individual ones, [holds up pages 4-5 to the camera] And, boom. The- the Sonichu and Rosechu boo-da-boop! There's an anime sounding theme song that I'm trying to quote right now, [Cameron and CopperCab laugh] but I don't know all the lyrics, so that's just the basic tune! Bom-bom-bom-bom-bom!

Cameron: Well, there we go, I-I got my answer there, didn't I? [laughs]

CopperCab: She sounds like me singing Katy Perry Firework. Like- I'll, like, miss the lyrics halfway through it. I'll just start, blah blah blah blah! [Cameron laughs, Coppercab begins singing Firework] Do you ever feel, like a plastic bag, blah-blah [stops singing] and start messing up lyrics, like, can't remember 'em. [Chris does a stress sigh]

Cameron: So, where do you see the future for your Sonichu comics, like, do you see these, um, how many- do you- do you see a whole universe where you just gonna go on until- into the future and other people are gonna take over, or how do you see it's gonna happen?

Chris: [regular voice]Um, in the- I say in the future it'll end up coming back to the present time, [CopperCab puts on a winter cap] and, uh, get more history in throughout the books, but as for, uh, merchandise, yeah, pretty much what happened so far, and what we have so far- uh, my brain is in multiple places-

CopperCab: [Cameron laughs] I know what you mean, I have the same problem. [Chris does a stress sigh] I've been stressed out lately.

Cameron: Where- where is your brain right now? Where- where are the multiple places your - your- you are right now?

Chris: Um, trynna- I'm looking for a couple of links to copy.

Cameron: Okay.

Chris: Besides from that, um... meh. Uh, I-I'd say in the future I'd definitely- I'd like to see more merchandise for Sonichu and creating all the amiibo figures possibly officially released by Nintendo and Sega or all that. Um, but Sonichu's been around since 2004 and as early as 2004- I mean, since 2000. And the book came out in 2004. Obviously more than 10 years went by, so, pretty much have a silent agreement between me and Nintendo and Sega, so, I'd say- [Chris continues but is cut off by Cameron]

Cameron: So, have they said it's okay?

CopperCab: Have you- have you approached- Hajime- have you approached- Satomi? Have you approached Hajime Satomi? The CEO of Sega?

Chris: Um, I'm pretty much- I'd say I pretty much don't have to, because nobody's complained and during its ten year relation- during the ten years span, so.

CopperCab: I-I'm saying, like, for a game, like, for, like- do you wanna do a video game with them?

Chris: Uh...

CopperCab: [Chris' stream briefly freezes] Uh-oh.

Chris: Either [unclear] Pokémon or Sonic style, I don't know. Um, or I-It's still to be determined among which, and-

CopperCab: That's pretty cool.

Chris: I forgot all- the original video I was looking for, I started singing an anime song. [CopperCab and Cameron laugh]

Cameron: Well-

CopperCab: Have you ever- Oh, [muffled] Cameron.

Cameron: You carry on Copper.

CopperCab: Oh, okay, I was just wondering if you ever considered making trading cards?

Chris: Uh, yes, I've made homemade Pokémon trading cards with Sonichu and characters, and some of my own-

CopperCab: And Rose-

Chris: And some of like- custom original Pokémon aside from that.

Cameron: Do you know what I was thinking about one day? Um, I-I own a Nintendo Wii U, and on there, it's been kind of hacked a lot, that-that console, and people are able to make their own characters for Super Smash Brothers.

Chris: Hmm.

Cameron: And I was imagining, maybe somebody out there would one day make a Sonichu for Super Smash Brothers, because it can be it can be i- put in there, and I've seen many things like that added to super Nintendo's, uh, not super Nintendo's, sorry, uh, the Nintendo U version. And then, I'm guessing when the- when the switch is hacked, they'll be able to do the same for there.

CopperCab: [garbled] You-You're glitching out right now, Cameron.

Cameron: What was that?

CopperCab: [clearly] You were glitching out.

Cameron: Oh, was I glitching out for you?

CopperCab: You were going "wub-wub-wub".

Cameron: Oh, sorry. Is it better now? [Chris says something, but it is muffled]

CopperCab: [thumbs up] Yeah.

Cameron: Is it better? Okay.

Chris: Yeah.

CopperCab: Yeah.

Cameron: Umm, yeah, what I was saying was that you- the Nintendo Wii U- Wii U can be hacked, and you can add characters to games in there, so I wa

See also

• Chris and journalism

External links

• GINGERS DO HAVE SOULS!!
• Kittrell's cover of Chris' cover of "Master Onion A-La-Mode"

    Chats and calls

⇐ Sachumo interview

Chris's videos

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