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{{quote|You brought so much fucking [[Laughs Under Lucricities|joy]] to this world and you continue to do so. That's why[...] you need to remain safe.|Bismuth, one of the Watchmen, to Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}
{{incomplete|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]}}
{{Split Off}}
{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|The "Watchmen" were not an organization like the [[CWCProtectSquad]] or the [[Guard Dogs]]. Rather, like how the "Patriots" was the name given to a clique of trolls, "Watchmen" was the name given to a group of Chris enablers and white knights that had befriended one another, and run various Discord servers, by one of its members. The WCT, one of its members, was also considering dropping the name when he created the Knights of CWC}}
{{quote|You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.|[[Naught]], one of the Watchmen, to Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}


[[File:Watchmen.jpg|thumb|The [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|accumulated]] [[Unholy Tetrad|filth]] of their [[trolls]] and [[weening]] will foam up about their waists and all the [[Dimensional Merge|Merge-deniers]] and [[A-log|A-logs]] will look up and shout "[[For Julie's Eyes Only|JULAAAY!]]" ...And I'll look down, and whisper "[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'm workin' on it.]]"]]
{{quote|Something going further wrong in the group once again?|Chris, showing awareness of the group's tendency for internal drama.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place]]</ref>}}
The '''Watchmen''' is the name given to a now defunct group of fantastical enablers whose members served as gatekeepers and [[white knights]] for Chris, in a similar manner as their predecessors, the [[Guard Dogs]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. The group broke up in late June 2021 following a series of internal conflicts among its members.


As a faction, the Watchmen were instrumental in numerous events over the course of late 2019 onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance Discord server when the true intent of the server was revealed. Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]].
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|year = 2019
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Their approach is controversial as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. The Watchmen tracked and collected information on anyone involved with- or trying to get involved with- Chris, and held no qualms about doxing potential weens, trolls, and a-logs.
The '''Watchmen''' (sometimes mistakenly refered to as '''"the Watchdogs"''') were a clique of fanatical [[enablers]] whose members served as [[gatekeepers]] and [[white knights]] for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential [[weens]], [[trolls]], and [[A-Log|A-logs]].<ref name=OwlsFeud>{{Cite farms|thread=75256|wayback=20211102022529|title= Orbiter general thread}}</ref> Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members [[MKRNightVee]], [[Naught]], [[The WCT]], and [[XIII]] on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. After Chris was jailed for [[Affair with Mother|incest]], their purpose became moot.


While they shared a name with the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins, the 2009 film adaptation (which is [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|not that long of a movie]], according to [[Emily]] and [[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]), the 2019 HBO series, and the various comic book spin-offs, the Watchmen did not take inspiration from the franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] modeled themselves after the Patriots from ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]''. Nonetheless, fan art from Christorians and other avid observers of Chris make this connection.
Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Another tactic they used was in drawing [[fanart]] for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or [[Sonichu_(species)|Sonichu]] forms; the art was usually drawn by either [[MKRNightVee]] or [[AquaDiamond8]]. They have also made use of the OC [[Lainchu]], played by at least four members of the group.
 
As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late [[2019]] onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance [[Discord]] server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref> Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were also behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]], and the [[Discord Q&A]]s.
 
The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on [[August 2020]] by [[Klop]], as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.<ref>[[Talk:Watchmen#Title]]</ref> However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, ''[[Metal Gear]]''. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade [[CPU Goddesses]].


==Origins==
==Origins==
What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server. There, Owls met Meghan (aka MKRNightVee), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").<ref name=owlsaccount>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/page-1257#post-7343340 (Archive: https://archive.fo/06IZx)</ref>
[[File:ChrisDoctorManhattan.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Christian Weston Manhattan]]
What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server, a trolling group. There, Owls met Meghan (aka [[MKRNightVee]] or MKR), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").<ref name=owlsaccount>[[Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)#Owls's Account]]</ref>


Meghan got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=cap2>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/</ref> Owls tried to coach Meghan<ref name=cpuowls>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl5-png.644835/</ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>
MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=sonsmiscreants>[[The Sons of the Miscreants]]</ref> Owls tried to coach MKR<ref name=sonsmiscreants></ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>


After Meghan had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. Meghan recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=cpuowls></ref>  
After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=sonsmiscreants></ref>  


{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}
{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}


According to the Watchman Bismuth, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and Marvin of the [[Guard Dogs]] group (the latter group also gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Bismuth alleged that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref>
According to Naught, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and [[Marvin]] of the [[Guard Dogs]] group (the latter also being gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Naught claimed that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.<ref name=naughtclarify>[[Naught#Follow-up on Origins]]</ref>
 
==Known members==
===AquaDiamond8===
{{quote|Christine...Please stop this, Mewtwo is not real, the [[merge]] is not happening, you need serious help. If you need help there are people to help you with these delusions. This is incredibly unhealthy for you.|AquaDiamond8, March 2019<ref>http://archive.md/50xPX</ref>}}
 
{{quote|Still i dont want <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Jacob Sockness]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> attacking my people when the merge happens, Christine has said there will be no more war or need for violence in the merge, my Sapphire has forseen this |AquaDiamond8 changes her tune, November 2019.<ref>http://archive.ph/0bMDM</ref>}}
 
[[File:Magi-Chan and AquaDiamond8.jpg|AquaDiamond8 and Magi-Chan. Drawn by Aqua November 2019.|thumb|200px]]
 
'''AquaDiamond8''' is a Twitter user who has bounced from being a [[ween]],<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-988#post-4495303</ref> to a [[white knight]], to an enabler and Watchman. In November 2019, during the [[Jacob Sockness]] saga, in order to lure Chris away from Sockness, Aqua joined the Watchmen and embraced Chris's delusional beliefs, changing her Twitter handle to '''CPU Goddess Aqua of the Mac Book Pro'''. Later, Aqua began drawing fanart of her [[OC]] interacting with [[Magi-Chan]].<ref>http://archive.md/lGets</ref> She then posted a Pokémon drawing, claiming it to be an alt-dimension Magi-Chan:<ref>http://archive.md/ETlxV</ref>
 
{{Collapsible|Val Valentino lore|{{quoteboxgreen|[[File:Val Valentino, The Masked Magician.jpg|thumb|200px]]
Val Valentino, The Masked Magician. A celestial powerful magician
 
Dex Enter: "This Magi-Chan is so powerful he has  to mentally project a simplified form that the human mind can comprehend.  Looking at his true form would drive you mad."
 
Dex #: unknown}}
 
Chris was enticed by this news:
 
{{quotebox|Seriously? You disovered an alt-dimension Magi-Chan Sonichu?  This is a very interesting find. I'll look more into this one for myself.
 
Also, for your information, regardless of which variant, Dimension or Timeline of origin, Special, Regular, or Mega Evolved, the Pokedex Number for Sonichu and Rosechu will always be at #982 and #979, respectively.}}
 
Aqua answered:
 
{{quoteboxgreen|Oh i wasnt aware ill make sure to write that down. But he more discovered me in a way. I was meaning to chat with [[Polyamorous marriage|your hubby]] when i realized i wasnt in our normal meeting spot, then he appeared through a portal.}}}}
 
As of early September 2020, Aqua is confirmed to no longer be involved with the Watchmen's activities:


{{quoteboxgreen|in all honesty at first i genuinly wanted to help chris but after the incident with Wendy i wanted to make things better, and try to help him, and as someone with autism, and who has family that acts like chris, i knew how dificult it is to get them to beleive certain things. I guess going along with it and pretending to be a goddess was better than letting her be on her own and let someone else take advantage of her.
==Reveal==
The Watchmen group revealed its presence in [[August 2020]]. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, [[Chris's Last Will and Testament]], which he decided to share with the Watchman member [[Naught]].<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref> Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the [[Official CWCki Server]] and leaked [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group]] over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).<ref>[[Official CWCki Server]]</ref>


Note that i never wanted anything from Chris, and did want to help, and despite what Dillin says about MKR or some of the "enamblers, not all of them are bad, MKR is the nicest person i know and i know that she truely does care for Chris.
==The Players==
===Members===
{{main|Watchmen members}}


I wanted to to help them with keeping sockness away from Chris and though it took some time ive seen chris is no longer taking his crap serious. I do keep up to date whats been going on, but i dont interact.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak_ElSwC1Xo&lc=Ugw4uQfLu00i10Lrjq14AaABAg.9DSJjEeQ6nb9DSfhyTd-Ra</ref>}}
===Untrusted Guests===
{{See also|Jacob Sockness|Praetor|Isabella Loretta Janke|Fiona}}
[[File:Discussioneverfree2.png|thumb|200px|[[The WCT]] discusses in the Second Layer about allowing [[Bella]] into the [[Knights of CWC]] server.]]
The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as [[Jacob Sockness]], [[Praetor]], [[Fiona]], and [[Bella]] in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.


===Bismuth===
Sockness and Praetor were untrusted guests in [[The Place]], and Bella and [[Fiona]] were untrusted guests in [[Knights of CWC]].
[[File:CPUBismuthHeart.jpg|150px|thumb|Avatar of CPU Bismuth Heart.]]
'''Bismuth''' is the second leader of the Watchmen, taking over after Owls left.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> He monitored and doxed potential weens or enablers. He went by many usernames - he used "Bismuth" to Chris and used multiple aliases in public postings. For the CWCki Discord server, he often used an emote of a heart. For [[Kiwi Farms]], he went by names/accounts including "Naught", "anameisaname", "death of chans", and "Nightmare"<ref name=naughtthread></ref> - he was eventually banned from the forum for use of sockpuppet accounts, advertising, and liking his own posts with sock accounts.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/corbindallasmultipass-memorial-thread.30974/post-9227018</ref>


In June 2021, conflict arose between Bismuth and fellow Watchman The WCT, stemming from an allegation Bismuth had doxed the latter.<ref name=naughtthread></ref> A leaked voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3</ref> suggested that Chris sided against Bismuth in the dispute.
==Behavior==


{{clear}}
===Toxic trio===


===Kyle===
The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members [[Naught]], [[Kyle]], and [[MKRNightVee]].<ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref>
The inspiration for Chris's [[:File:KylechuOC.jpg|Kylechu]] OC, '''Kyle''' appeared in the Google Hangout chats.


===Lainchu===
===Rationalizations for Enabling===
[[File:Lainchu.jpg|thumb|200px|Lainchu, as drawn by MKRNightVee.]]
'''Lainchu''', also known '''Lainchu the Chronicler''', is an OC created by Chris, whose purpose is to document Chris's activities (and unofficially, to provide Christorians with first hand information). Since 7 August 2020, Chris has assigned the role to one of the Watchmen, with the role initially assigned to the CWCki Discord server creator, [[User:Klop|Klop]]; however, as of late [[August 2020]], Klop has resigned from the role and another user has taken on the mantle, with Chris none the wiser.


Chris based the OC on the protagonist of the [[anime]], ''[[Wikipedia:Serial Experiments Lain|Serial Experiments Lain]]'', in which a teenage girl finds herself engaging with a virtual world network, reminiscent of the [[internet]].
Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.


===MKRNightVee===
In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".<ref>[[The Place chats (March 2021)]]</ref>
[[Image:MeghanRingo.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Meghan]]
[[File:MKR enabling.png|200px|thumb|right||Meghan enabling Chris's delusional thoughts.]]
{{quote|I am a [[CPU]], that means I am directly on the same level of godhood as [[Chris]]tine.|Meghan, replying to [[Sarah and Steve]] questioning if she really follows Chris's beliefs.<ref>[http://archive.md/lj64i Archive of 7 Nov 2019 tweet chain]</ref>}}


{{quote|Nothing lasts forever, especially not any group protecting Chris-chan.|Meghan, reflecting after her March 2021 ragequit.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1368024530325630980 (Archive https://archive.fo/rXsVi)</ref>}}
==Interactions with others==
===Ben Saint===
[[Ben Saint]] is an enabler who exploited Chris's infamy to boost his own webcomic series by inserting Chris's [[Night Star]] [[OC]], which led to conflict with Chris.


'''Meghan Kathleen Ringo''' (born 24 April 1992), also known under the aliases '''MKRNightVee''', '''CPUMagentaHeart''' and '''thepixietailartist''', and sometimes referred to as '''Maker''' by Chris, appeared in early [[2019]]. She got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up Chris's phone number for her.<ref name=cap2></ref> She presented herself to Chris as being the [[CPU]] goddess of the [[Nintendo Switch]], offering him validation on his fantasies of having magic powers.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454/</ref> She has stated that her goal isn't to feed into Chris's delusions so much as to offer advice and help.<ref>[[:File:MKR motives.png]]</ref> Chris offered her several of his possessions in his [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|Last Will and Testament]].
On 23 [[September 2019]], Watchmen members raided a Twitch stream of Ben's to call him out.<ref>https://www.twitch.tv/saintcomix/video/485302712?filter=highlights&sort=time</ref>


She set up a Discord group for Chris, telling her friends to role-play as [[CPU]] goddesses to gain Chris's trust, while also instituting a no-trolling rule.<ref>[[:File:MKR Discord Rules.png]]</ref>
===Dillin Thomas===
On 24 [[January 2020]], [[Dillin Thomas]] uploaded a recording of Watchmen members harassing him on Discord.


During the [[TF2 Analysis]] saga, she created an alt Twitter account named [[Creamarina]] and shared it with Chris to enable him to evade blocks.<ref>[[Misc texts#Creamarina]]</ref>
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During the [[Jacob Sockness]] saga, in which Sockness attempted to manipulate Chris into a sexual relationship, Meghan saw the danger in Sockness's intent, and steered Chris away from him in summer 2019; Sockness, who at the time was engaging in a full-scale war against Chris's enablers, followers and critics alike, considered MKR to be an enemy of his, and abused her verbally on Twitter as his second dramatic cycle approached its climax in early [[November 2019|November]]. She, as well as Aqua, largely mitigated Sockness's influence over Chris, though Chris was still willing to listen to Sockness.
===Joseph Draft===
[[File:mkrragequit.png|200px|thumb|left|Meghan ragequits in March 2021.]]
Joseph Draft planned a documentary project titled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]''. He made arrangements and filmed footage with Chris before the documentary was cancelled. According to [[Naught]], Draft destroyed the drive with the footage over stress from [[Megan]] changing her mind about being included and other YouTubers trying to monetize it,<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref> and that Naught had "a 4 hour conversation" with Draft in which he got him "to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet."<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref>
In March 2021, she temporarily gave up on helping Chris when she learned that he was planning on [[Taser Discussion|playing with a taser]] with his new friend group [[Praetor]], sending an angry Tweet directed towards him which expressed her disdain, before deleting her Twitter account a few days later.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1368024530325630980 (Archive https://archive.fo/rXsVi)</ref> However, she reactivated her account, and tweeted again to Chris in April, replying to Chris tagging her to show her a gif file,<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1380732044951515137 (archive: https://archive.fo/fL8wZ)</ref> and later to reply to another of Chris's tweets in order to call [[Other enablers#Helena Fiorenza|one of his enablers]] a faggot.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1380756077864620033 (archive: https://archive.fo/Ybm8P)</ref>


In June 2021, internal conflict arose among Watchmen members over Bismuth allegedly doxing The WCT which resulted in the group separating. Meghan had sided with Bismuth and Chris against, leading to Chris distancing himself from Meghan in the fallout. On 29 June, Meghan tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Your obviously good at using people and then moving on to the next. Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> She followed up by tweeting that she regretted having spent her time drawing art for Chris and accused him of being unappreciative of it.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1411511053872025605 (archive: https://archive.fo/8WSOI)</ref>
===Midnight Moonflower===
{{See also|Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes}}
[[Midnight Moonflower]] is a former friend of Chris who met him at a [[BronyCon]]. The Watchmen raided her Discord server to intimidate its members over Chris being a member of the server.<ref>[[Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid]]</ref><ref>[[Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid, Part 2]]</ref>


===Owls===
===Praetor===
[[File:Ryan Owls.png|thumb|200px|left|Ryan.]]
[[Praetor]] is a group of enablers appearing in the fall of [[2020]] who produced and sold Sonichu-themed products with Chris's permission on [[Etsy]] and gave him a portion of the profits in exchange.
'''Ryan Winger''', also known as '''Owls''' to the other Watchmen, as '''GhostBird50''' on the [[Kiwi Farms]],<ref name=owlsaccount></ref> and as '''CpuTurquoiseHeart''' to Chris,<ref name=cpuowls></ref> was the original leader of the Watchmen group.<ref name=naughtclarify>[[:File:Naught origin clarify 1.png]] amd [[:File:Naught origin clarify 2.png]]</ref> Ryan advised MKRNightVee in interacting with Chris and founded the Watchmen's Discord server. Ryan also acted as a liaison between Watchmen and [[Guard Dogs]] member Marvin, though fellow Watchman Bismuth alleged that he hadn't been reporting back to Marvin.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> Ryan left the group.


===The WCT===
In [[February 2021]], Chris wanted to borrow Praetor's [[taser]] in order to tase his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] [[quartz crystals]], believing this would open an interdimensional portal and bring about the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[[Naught DMs#Chris wants to activate the Merge by playing with taser]]</ref> The Watchmen objected to this plan, to which Praetor member [[Caden]] claimed they would supervise Chris and that he would not be at risk.<ref>[[Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser]]</ref>
[[File:The WCT avatar.png|thumb|200px|The WCT's avatar.]]


'''The WCT''', also known as WildCat and Neko Onyx, is a Watchmen member who has archived calls involving Chris. Before becoming a Watchman, he had been observing Chris and watching [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psI8P3gbSM4]</ref>
Talks between the two groups quickly disintegrated.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]</ref> Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[MKR]] took to spreading rumors about Praetor, each using out-of-context snippets from the discussions.


{{clear}}
Naught made a [[Kiwi Farms]] post in which he posted a clip from the [[Taser Discussion]] voice chat.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discusion clip]]</ref> In the clip, Watchmen member [[Val]] states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. [[Praetor]] member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about ''why'' it's a bad idea."


==Breakup of the Watchmen==
In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected.
Signs of the group dissolving began appearing in late June 2021. Earlier in the month, The WCT was doxed, and signs pointed to fellow Watchman and group leader Bismuth as the source.<ref name=naughtthread>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ (archive: https://archive.fo/G30td)</ref> When The WCT confronted Bismuth during the group’s movie night on 21 June, Bismuth denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox The WCT in an attempt to silence him. Kyle and MKR took Bismuth’s side in the dispute.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hYztxRHRA </ref> A leaked voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3</ref> was posted to a Lolcow.org thread made about Bismuth,<ref name=naughtthread></ref> implying that when Chris learned of the infighting, he sided against Bismuth.


On 29 June, MKR made multiple tweets which suggested Chris had cut communications with her in favor of The WCT, tagging Chris’s Twitter and posting, “Your obviously good at using people and then moving on to the next. Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> She then followed up with accusations against The WCT, claiming him to be messing with Chris and believing he had sinister motives.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref>
MKR posted on Twitter to spread a rumor that Praetor wanted to get Chris to use a stun gun on himself. She gave no proof of the allegation, instead posting an out-of-context screenshot<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1358939937463169024 (archive: https://archive.ph/PYMQh)</ref> from Watchmen-Praetor talks.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#8 February 2021, part 2]]</ref>


==Q&A==
The Christuber [[GiBi]] believed the Watchmen's spin, creating a video in which he erroneously attributed the members in Naught's clip to Praetor - including the Watchmen Val - as well as reading from MKR's tweet.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HfueLWzjY&lc=Ugz1EEI4ON6dhsYi1gN4AaABAg</ref> Chris viewed the video and claimed the taser to have been his own idea, defending Praetor.<ref>[[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Chris Chan is Convinced to Taser Himself]]</ref>
A Christorian interviewed Naught on 4 September 2020, asking some clarifying questions about the Watchmen. They posted the answers on the Official CWCki Discord. The interviewer's questions are color-coded red, with Naught's responses color-coded white.


{{collapsible|Q&A|The first four questions appear to be referring to the [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]] server.
Later, Chris criticized [[The Place]] members for their aggressive behavior, though Watchmen members Kyle and MKR immediately resumed hostile remarks towards Praetor, leaving Chris disappointed.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#13 February 2021]]</ref>


{{quoteboxred|Who started it and why?}}
===Bella===


{{quoteboxwhite|Owls the guy who set-up mkr and [[Joseph Draft]] got aqua and mkr to draw some art to lure cwc in.}}
The WCT hosted the [[Regarding Chris]] chats, where he and a few minor Watchmen had interviewed [[Bella]] in order to get an understanding of the Incest Call leaks.


{{quoteboxred|How did Chris join there?}}
==Discord==


{{quoteboxwhite|I was told it was going to be for Chris's patrons.}}
The Watchmen's primary platform for reaching out to Chris and people that they suspected as being weens was Discord.


{{quoteboxred|Why was it killed?}}
===Server Structure===


{{quoteboxwhite|It was killed because owls and Joseph didn't know how to wrangle tards. Mkr aqua were being blamed for making it so I asked for a mod role kept asking for more perms and deleted all the channel's. I posted the rolling and trolling vid.}}
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Place.png|thumb|150px|Watchmen server [[The Place]]. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "2nd Layer".]]
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Knights of CWC.png|thumb|150px|Watchmen server [[The Knights of CWC]]. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "Private".]]


{{quoteboxred|Who killed it?}}
Both The Place and The Knights of CWC Discord servers were structured to have two layers of channels. The Watchmen assigned roles to server members to allow them to view certain layers.


{{quoteboxwhite|I killed it, Joseph and Smokey Chris TheSperge were using the server to gather content, they convinced Joseph I was Johan.
The '''First Layer''' included a General channel for Chris to chat in. Chris and the Watchmen's Untrusted Guests could view and post only in the First Layer.


After a 4 hour conversation I got Joseph draft to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet.}}
The '''Second Layer''' included a channel for discussion of Chris. The layer was hidden from Chris and Untrusted Guests to enable the Watchmen to hold discussions.


The last two appear to refer to the Watchmen as a group.
===Discord servers===
Below are a list of several of the Discord Servers that were created for the iniative of the Watchmen.


{{quoteboxred|Why did Aqua leave?}}
====Arbitarch CWC Alliance====
This was from before the Watchmen had fully come out to the public. The server was eventually shut down.


{{quoteboxwhite|Stress and people @ her on Twitter
====The Place====
{{main|The Place}}


Her and mkr are still frens}}
====The Knights of CWC====
{{main|The Knights of CWC}}


{{quoteboxred|Will this group be around forever?}}
====Regarding Chris====
{{Main|Regarding Chris chats}}
'''Regarding Chris''' was a group chat created by [[The WCT]] with some of the other Watchmen members from The Knights of CWC server on 30 July 2021. Its purpose was to question [[Bella]] about her role in the [[Incest Call]] leak, since she had been named by [[Null]] as a person involved. However, the move backfired as during the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing Fiona for being the voice in the call{{refn|group="note"|Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call<ref>{{Cite farms|title=<nowiki>[THREAD RETIRED]</nowiki> Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people|thread=96787|post=9632321}}</ref>}} and alleging her [[fabricated BDSM texts]] to be legitimate and goading WCT to disseminating the material and naming Fiona as his source.


{{quoteboxwhite|As long as Chris is in need or willing yes<ref>[[:File:4September2020 WatchmenOriginQ&A 1.png]][[:File:4September2020 WatchmenOriginQ&A 2.png]]</ref>}}}}
The full chat was later leaked.<ref name=regarding>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms]</ref>


==See also==
==See also==
*[[CWCProtectSquad]]
*[[CWCProtectSquad]]
*[[Guard Dogs]]
*[[Guard Dogs]]
*[[The Miscreants]] - Essentially the inverse of the Watchmen
*[[Nightvee & the Warriors For Andromeda]], a [[TSSSF]] pack featuring some Watchmen
*[[Watchmen Chats]]
==Notes==
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==References==
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The "Watchmen" were not an organization like the CWCProtectSquad or the Guard Dogs. Rather, like how the "Patriots" was the name given to a clique of trolls, "Watchmen" was the name given to a group of Chris enablers and white knights that had befriended one another, and run various Discord servers, by one of its members. The WCT, one of its members, was also considering dropping the name when he created the Knights of CWC
You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.
Naught, one of the Watchmen, to Chris.[1]
Something going further wrong in the group once again?
Chris, showing awareness of the group's tendency for internal drama.[2]


Watchmen
Information
Name Watchmen
Also known as Watchdogs
Saga Watchmen

The Watchmen (sometimes mistakenly refered to as "the Watchdogs") were a clique of fanatical enablers whose members served as gatekeepers and white knights for Chris. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential weens, trolls, and A-logs.[3] Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members MKRNightVee, Naught, The WCT, and XIII on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. After Chris was jailed for incest, their purpose became moot.

Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of enabling his delusions by pretending to be fellow CPU goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in magical thinking and the Dimensional Merge. Another tactic they used was in drawing fanart for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or Sonichu forms; the art was usually drawn by either MKRNightVee or AquaDiamond8. They have also made use of the OC Lainchu, played by at least four members of the group.

As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late 2019 onwards, such as attempting to dismantle Jacob Sockness’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance Discord server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.[4] Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including chatting with them on Google Hangouts and over Discord. The Watchmen were also behind the Discord leaks in August 2020, and the Discord Q&As.

The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on August 2020 by Klop, as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.[5] However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how The Miscreants presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, Metal Gear. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade CPU Goddesses.

Origins

Christian Weston Manhattan

What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server, a trolling group. There, Owls met Meghan (aka MKRNightVee or MKR), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").[6]

MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.[7] Owls tried to coach MKR[7] and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.[6]

After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to manipulate Chris's beliefs away from the Dimensional Merge through telling him that the CPU goddesses had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.[7]

time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.
Owls[6]

According to Naught, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and Marvin of the Guard Dogs group (the latter also being gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Naught claimed that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.[8]

Reveal

The Watchmen group revealed its presence in August 2020. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, Chris's Last Will and Testament, which he decided to share with the Watchman member Naught.[9] Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the Official CWCki Server and leaked a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).[10]

The Players

Members

Main article: Watchmen members

Untrusted Guests

The WCT discusses in the Second Layer about allowing Bella into the Knights of CWC server.

The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as Jacob Sockness, Praetor, Fiona, and Bella in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.

Sockness and Praetor were untrusted guests in The Place, and Bella and Fiona were untrusted guests in Knights of CWC.

Behavior

Toxic trio

The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members Naught, Kyle, and MKRNightVee.[11]

Rationalizations for Enabling

Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.

In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".[12]

Interactions with others

Ben Saint

Ben Saint is an enabler who exploited Chris's infamy to boost his own webcomic series by inserting Chris's Night Star OC, which led to conflict with Chris.

On 23 September 2019, Watchmen members raided a Twitch stream of Ben's to call him out.[13]

Dillin Thomas

On 24 January 2020, Dillin Thomas uploaded a recording of Watchmen members harassing him on Discord.


ຮṎṈḭᏨ ḭṈຮᾀṈḭtẙ The Followers Of Chris Chan Reach Out To Me
Direct link Youtube, archive
Stardate 24 January 2020
Made By Dillin Thomas (DHT)
TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos

Joseph Draft

Joseph Draft planned a documentary project titled Chris Chan VS. The Internet. He made arrangements and filmed footage with Chris before the documentary was cancelled. According to Naught, Draft destroyed the drive with the footage over stress from Megan changing her mind about being included and other YouTubers trying to monetize it,[14] and that Naught had "a 4 hour conversation" with Draft in which he got him "to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet."[15]

Midnight Moonflower

Midnight Moonflower is a former friend of Chris who met him at a BronyCon. The Watchmen raided her Discord server to intimidate its members over Chris being a member of the server.[16][17]

Praetor

Praetor is a group of enablers appearing in the fall of 2020 who produced and sold Sonichu-themed products with Chris's permission on Etsy and gave him a portion of the profits in exchange.

In February 2021, Chris wanted to borrow Praetor's taser in order to tase his Gate Crystal and Celestial Key quartz crystals, believing this would open an interdimensional portal and bring about the Dimensional Merge.[18] The Watchmen objected to this plan, to which Praetor member Caden claimed they would supervise Chris and that he would not be at risk.[19]

Talks between the two groups quickly disintegrated.[20] Watchmen members Naught and MKR took to spreading rumors about Praetor, each using out-of-context snippets from the discussions.

Naught made a Kiwi Farms post in which he posted a clip from the Taser Discussion voice chat.[21] In the clip, Watchmen member Val states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. Praetor member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea."

In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected.

MKR posted on Twitter to spread a rumor that Praetor wanted to get Chris to use a stun gun on himself. She gave no proof of the allegation, instead posting an out-of-context screenshot[22] from Watchmen-Praetor talks.[23]

The Christuber GiBi believed the Watchmen's spin, creating a video in which he erroneously attributed the members in Naught's clip to Praetor - including the Watchmen Val - as well as reading from MKR's tweet.[24] Chris viewed the video and claimed the taser to have been his own idea, defending Praetor.[25]

Later, Chris criticized The Place members for their aggressive behavior, though Watchmen members Kyle and MKR immediately resumed hostile remarks towards Praetor, leaving Chris disappointed.[26]

Bella

The WCT hosted the Regarding Chris chats, where he and a few minor Watchmen had interviewed Bella in order to get an understanding of the Incest Call leaks.

Discord

The Watchmen's primary platform for reaching out to Chris and people that they suspected as being weens was Discord.

Server Structure

Watchmen server The Place. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "2nd Layer".
Watchmen server The Knights of CWC. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "Private".

Both The Place and The Knights of CWC Discord servers were structured to have two layers of channels. The Watchmen assigned roles to server members to allow them to view certain layers.

The First Layer included a General channel for Chris to chat in. Chris and the Watchmen's Untrusted Guests could view and post only in the First Layer.

The Second Layer included a channel for discussion of Chris. The layer was hidden from Chris and Untrusted Guests to enable the Watchmen to hold discussions.

Discord servers

Below are a list of several of the Discord Servers that were created for the iniative of the Watchmen.

Arbitarch CWC Alliance

This was from before the Watchmen had fully come out to the public. The server was eventually shut down.

The Place

Main article: The Place

The Knights of CWC

Main article: The Knights of CWC

Regarding Chris

Main article: Regarding Chris chats

Regarding Chris was a group chat created by The WCT with some of the other Watchmen members from The Knights of CWC server on 30 July 2021. Its purpose was to question Bella about her role in the Incest Call leak, since she had been named by Null as a person involved. However, the move backfired as during the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing Fiona for being the voice in the call[note 1] and alleging her fabricated BDSM texts to be legitimate and goading WCT to disseminating the material and naming Fiona as his source.

The full chat was later leaked.[28]

See also

Notes

  1. Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call[27]

References

  1. CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)
  2. WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place
  3. Orbiter general thread (archived). Kiwi Farms.
  4. Naught#History
  5. Talk:Watchmen#Title
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)#Owls's Account
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 The Sons of the Miscreants
  8. Naught#Follow-up on Origins
  9. Naught DMs
  10. Official CWCki Server
  11. MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place
  12. The Place chats (March 2021)
  13. https://www.twitch.tv/saintcomix/video/485302712?filter=highlights&sort=time
  14. Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet
  15. Naught#History
  16. Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid
  17. Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid, Part 2
  18. Naught DMs#Chris wants to activate the Merge by playing with taser
  19. Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser
  20. The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations
  21. Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discusion clip
  22. https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1358939937463169024 (archive: https://archive.ph/PYMQh)
  23. The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#8 February 2021, part 2
  24. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HfueLWzjY&lc=Ugz1EEI4ON6dhsYi1gN4AaABAg
  25. List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Chris Chan is Convinced to Taser Himself
  26. The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#13 February 2021
  27. [THREAD RETIRED] Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people (Message #9632321). Kiwi Farms.
  28. Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms
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The Players

Organizations: Watchmen (The Sons of the MiscreantsArbitarch CWC AllianceThe PlaceThe Knights of CWC) • Halal Server
People: ChrisWatchmen members (The WCTMKRNightVeeNaughtAnaxisKyleOwls) • Caden PeckJacob SocknessJoseph DraftMidnight MoonflowerKaiDillin ThomasGiBiBen SaintLarry VaughnIsabella JankeFiona


Watchmen Chats: General • Solo Members (AnaxisAquaDiamond8KyleMKRNightVeeNaughtSpunkyThe WCT)

Enabling and Delusions: Sexual Frustration: Targeted Orbiters: Handling of Incest Drama:

Coinciding Sagas
Jacob, Secret Shipfic, Praetor, Incest


    People