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{{quote|You brought so much fucking [[Laughs Under Lucricities|joy]] to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.|Bismuth, one of the Watchmen, to Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}
{{incomplete|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]}}
{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|The "Watchmen" were not an organization like the [[CWCProtectSquad]] or the [[Guard Dogs]].|includegossip=yes}}
{{Protip|For the sake of clarity, the term "Watchmen" will strictly refer to any of the active members from [[The Place]] server, as the name was created after the group was discovered, and several iterations of the group, all with different leaderships, names, and rules, came about, both before and after the name was made.}}


[[File:Watchmen.jpg|thumb|The [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|accumulated]] [[Unholy Tetrad|filth]] of their [[trolls]] and [[weening]] will foam up about their waists and all the [[Dimensional Merge|Merge-deniers]] and [[A-log|A-logs]] will look up and shout "[[For Julie's Eyes Only|JULAAAY!]]" ...And I'll look down, and whisper "[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'm workin' on it.]]"]]
{{quote|You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.|[[Naught]], one of the Watchmen, to Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Something going further wrong in the group once again?|Chris, showing awareness of the group's tendency for internal drama.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place]]</ref>}}


The '''Watchmen''' were a group of fanatical [[enablers]] whose members served as [[gatekeepers]] and [[white knights]] for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in a similar manner as their predecessors, the [[Guard Dogs]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris, and as such wound up in conflict with [[Sockness]], [[Praetor]] and various other members of the rogue's gallery of the CWC universe. The group had a few iterations but with Chris currently jailed for [[incest]] their purpose has become moot.
{{Infobox Organization
|name = Watchmen
|image = Watchmen.jpg
|aliases= Watchdogs
|day =
|month =
|year = 2019
|saga = {{saga|arbitarch|cn}}, {{saga|shipfic|cn}}, {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|crystalgate|cn}}, {{saga|lainchu|cn}}, {{saga|everfree|cn}}
}}


As a faction, the Watchmen were instrumental in numerous events over the course of late [[2019]] onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance Discord server when the true intent of the server was revealed. Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were also behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]], and the [[Discord Q&A]]'s.
The '''Watchmen''' (sometimes mistakenly refered to as '''"the Watchdogs"''') were a clique of fanatical [[enablers]] whose members served as [[gatekeepers]] and [[white knights]] for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential [[weens]], [[trolls]], and [[A-Log|A-logs]].<ref name=OwlsFeud>{{Cite farms|thread=75256|wayback=20211102022529|title= Orbiter general thread}}</ref> Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members [[MKRNightVee]], [[Naught]], [[The WCT]], and [[XIII]] on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. After Chris was jailed for [[Affair with Mother|incest]], their purpose became moot.


Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. The Watchmen tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with Chris, and had little to hesitation in regards to doing any potential [[weens]], [[trolls]], and [[A-Log|A-logs]].
Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Another tactic they used was in drawing [[fanart]] for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or [[Sonichu_(species)|Sonichu]] forms; the art was usually drawn by either [[MKRNightVee]] or [[AquaDiamond8]]. They have also made use of the OC [[Lainchu]], played by at least four members of the group.


The group existed in various forms since 2019 and was given its current name on August 2020 by one of its members, as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.<ref>[[Talk:Watchmen#Title]]</ref> The Watchmen apparently did not take inspiration from the DC franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] modeled themselves after the Patriots from ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]''. The group splintered several times as a result of internal conflicts.
As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late [[2019]] onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance [[Discord]] server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref> Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were also behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]], and the [[Discord Q&A]]s.
 
The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on [[August 2020]] by [[Klop]], as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.<ref>[[Talk:Watchmen#Title]]</ref> However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, ''[[Metal Gear]]''. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade [[CPU Goddesses]].


==Origins==
==Origins==
What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server. There, Owls met Meghan (aka MKRNightVee), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").<ref name=owlsaccount>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/page-1257#post-7343340 (Archive: https://archive.fo/06IZx)</ref>
{{Main|Arbitarch CWC Alliance}}
[[File:ChrisDoctorManhattan.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Christian Weston Manhattan]]


Meghan got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=cap2>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/</ref> Owls tried to coach Meghan<ref name=cpuowls>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl5-png.644835/</ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>
What eventually became the Watchmen can be tied back to Chris's interactions with Meghan Kathleen Ringo, more commonly known as MKRNightVee or MKR. MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=sonsmiscreants>[[The Sons of the Miscreants]]</ref> Owls tried to coach MKR<ref name=sonsmiscreants></ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount>[[Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)]]</ref>


After Meghan had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. Meghan recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=cpuowls></ref>  
After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=sonsmiscreants></ref>  


{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}
{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}


According to Bismuth, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and [[Marvin]] of the [[Guard Dogs]] group (the latter also being gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Bismuth claimed that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref>
According to Naught, from Owls account, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and [[Marvin]] of the [[Guard Dogs]] group (the latter also being gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Naught claimed that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.<ref name=naughtclarify>[[Naught#Follow-up on Origins]]</ref>
 
Naught claims that due to internal conflicts between the Arbitarch Alliance, some of which involved events having to do with Chris such as the handling of BABscon and the [[Chris Chan Vs. The Internet]] documentary, he shut down the group, and took the role of leader away from Owls, ultimately leading to the creation of the Watchmen under his leadership. Naught had then doxed several of the members that opted out of the group, or were in conflicts with him, on Kiwi Farms about a year later.


==Reveal==
==Reveal==
The Watchmen group revealed its presence in [[August 2020]]. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, [[Chris's Last Will and Testament]], which he decided to share with the Watchman member Bismuth.<ref>[[Bismuth DMs]]</ref> Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Bismuth and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Bismuth entered the Official CWCki Server [[Discord]] and leaked [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group]] over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).<ref>[[Discord#Official CWCki Server]]</ref>
The Watchmen group revealed its presence in [[August 2020]]. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, [[Chris's Last Will and Testament]], which he decided to share with the Watchman member [[Naught]].<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref> Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the [[Official CWCki Server]] and leaked [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group]] over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).<ref>[[Official CWCki Server]]</ref>


==The Players==
==The Players==
===Bismuth===
===Members===
[[File:CPUBismuthHeart.jpg|150px|thumb|Avatar of CPU Bismuth Heart.]]
{{main|Watchmen members}}
'''Bismuth''' was the second leader of the Watchmen, taking over the group after Owls left.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> He monitored and doxed potential weens or outside enablers. He went by many usernames - he used "Bismuth" to Chris and used multiple aliases in public postings. While he was in the CWCki Discord server, he often used an emoticon of a heart. For the [[Kiwi Farms]], he went by names/accounts including "Naught", "anameisaname", "death of chans", and "Nightmare"<ref name=naughtthread></ref> - he was eventually banned from the forum for use of multiple sockpuppet accounts, advertising, and liking his own posts with sock accounts.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/corbindallasmultipass-memorial-thread.30974/post-9227018</ref>{{PublicSource}}
 
In [[June 2021]], conflict arose between Bismuth and fellow Watchman [[Sean Walker|The WCT]], stemming from an allegation Bismuth had doxed the latter.<ref name=naughtthread></ref> Following a Lolcow.org thread on the ex-member of the group, an audio voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3</ref> suggested that Chris sided against Bismuth in the dispute.
 
===The WCT===
[[File:BiggusDorkus.png|thumb|200px]]
 
{{Main|The WCT}}
 
'''Sean Walker''', primarily known in the context of the Watchmen as '''Conner''' or '''neko''', or in the broader Internet as '''the WCT''', archived calls involving Chris and occasionally gave interviews to observers. In November 2020, Chris took an interest in spree killer [[Randy Stair]], whose belief system regarding cartoons and alternative universes bears more than a passing relationship with Chris's, after watching a YouTube documentary on Stair produced by Sean. In February 2021, Sean attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of Lainchu but Chris rejected his attempt. He was instrumental in the eventual downfall of the Watchmen, admitting in private that he had been "working with Former Kiwi Farmers to bring down the Watchmen" out of a personal dislike of Bismuth, which led to a cascade of events in which multiple people were doxxed and Chris left the Watchmen's server.<ref name="WCTThread>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sean-walker-psychic-espeon-wct-wildcat-neko.97689 Sean Walker / @Psychic Espeon / Lainchu / WCT / WildCat / Neko (etc.) - Self-described "Final Protagonist of Christory", spree-killer fanboy, connected to Bellagate]</ref> He would go on to found [[Watchmen#The Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]], a Watchmen splinter group, where eventually Chris invited [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]. Prior to Chris's arrest for [[incest]], Sean reached out to Bella again asking for her side of the story, who was able to manipulate Sean into attempting to shift blame from Isabella to the [[Suitress]].
 
===MKRNightVee===
{{Main|MKRNightVee}}
 
'''MKRNightVee''', also known as '''CPUMagentaHeart''' and '''thepixietailartist''', and sometimes referred to as '''Maker''' by Chris, appeared in early [[2019]]. She got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up Chris's phone number for her.<ref name=cap2></ref> She presented herself to Chris as being the [[CPU]] goddess of the [[Nintendo Switch]], offering him validation on his fantasies of having magic powers.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454/</ref> She has stated that her goal isn't to feed into Chris's delusions so much as to offer advice and help.<ref>[[:File:MKR motives.png]]</ref> Chris offered her several of his possessions in his [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|Last Will and Testament]].
 
===AquaDiamond8===
{{quote|Christine...Please stop this, Mewtwo is not real, the [[merge]] is not happening, you need serious help. If you need help there are people to help you with these delusions. This is incredibly unhealthy for you.|AquaDiamond8, March 2019<ref>http://archive.md/50xPX</ref>}}
 
{{quote|Still i dont want <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Jacob Sockness]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> attacking my people when the merge happens, Christine has said there will be no more war or need for violence in the merge, my Sapphire has forseen this |AquaDiamond8 changes her tune, November 2019.<ref>http://archive.ph/0bMDM</ref>}}
 
[[File:Magi-Chan and AquaDiamond8.jpg|AquaDiamond8 and Magi-Chan. Drawn by Aqua November 2019.|thumb|200px]]
 
'''AquaDiamond8''' is a Twitter user who has bounced from being a [[ween]],<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-988#post-4495303</ref> to a [[white knight]], to an enabler and Watchman. In November 2019, during the [[Jacob Sockness]] saga, in hopes to lure Chris away from Sockness, Aqua joined the Watchmen and embraced Chris's delusional beliefs, changing her Twitter handle to '''CPU Goddess Aqua of the Mac Book Pro'''. Later, Aqua began drawing fanart of her [[OC]] interacting with [[Magi-Chan]].<ref>http://archive.md/lGets</ref> She then posted a Pokémon drawing, claiming it to be an alt-dimension Magi-Chan:<ref>http://archive.md/ETlxV</ref>
 
In [[September 2020]], Aqua confirmed in the comments of a Dillin Thomas video that they were no longer a part of the Watchmen.
 
{{quoteboxgreen|in all honesty at first i genuinly wanted to help chris but after the incident with Wendy i wanted to make things better, and try to help him, and as someone with autism, and who has family that acts like chris, i knew how dificult it is to get them to beleive certain things. I guess going along with it and pretending to be a goddess was better than letting her be on her own and let someone else take advantage of her.
 
Note that i never wanted anything from Chris, and did want to help, and despite what Dillin says about MKR or some of the "enamblers, not all of them are bad, MKR is the nicest person i know and i know that she truely does care for Chris.
 
I wanted to to help them with keeping sockness away from Chris and though it took some time ive seen chris is no longer taking his crap serious. I do keep up to date whats been going on, but i dont interact.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak_ElSwC1Xo&lc=Ugw4uQfLu00i10Lrjq14AaABAg.9DSJjEeQ6nb9DSfhyTd-Ra (Archive https://archive.md/oob08)</ref>}}
 
 
===Owls===
[[File:Ryan Owls.png|thumb|150px|Owls IRL.]]
The original founder of the organization went by '''Owls''' in his interactions with the Watchmen, and as '''GhostBird50''' on the [[Kiwi Farms]],<ref name=owlsaccount></ref> and as '''CpuTurquoiseHeart''' to Chris,<ref name=cpuowls></ref>.<ref name=naughtclarify>[[:File:Naught origin clarify 1.png]] amd [[:File:Naught origin clarify 2.png]]</ref> Initially, Owls advised MKRNightVee in interacting with Chris and founded the Watchmen's Discord server. Owls also acted as a liaison between Watchmen and [[Guard Dogs]] member Marvin, though fellow Watchman Bismuth alleged that he hadn't been reporting back to Marvin.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> Owls eventually left the group, stating he wanted no more part in Chris's situation or in Internet drama,<ref>[[:File:Ghostbird_kiwistatus.png]]</ref> and was succeeded by Naught/Bismuth. This seems to have come when he got involved in a feud <ref name=OwlsFeud>{{Cite farms|thread=75256|wayback=20211102022529|title= Orbiter general thread}}</ref> with several other obscure Chris orbiters.
 
===Kyle===
A seemingly minor and or less active member of the Watchmen. '''Kyle''' publicly appeared only in the [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|Google Hangout chats]]. Kyle was also apparently the inspiration for Chris's [[:File:KylechuOC.jpg|Kylechu]] OC. {{Fix-span|{{Notable|section=Kyle suicide baiting}}|Kyle apparently boasted of working at a suicide hotline and inducing callers to go through with taking their own lives,<ref name=kylesuicide>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-17264</ref> something which was revealed in Discord leaks, both audio and text.}}
Chris had mixed feelings on Kyle. In a 26 [[June 2021]] text to [[Null]], Chris said on Kyle that he "talks soo damn much, boasting his smart-talk, interrogating my intentions and present mentalities. Damn, he's seriously tiring."<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Chris texts Null]]</ref>
 
===Klop===
{{Fix-span|{{Cite}}|Additionally notable for being the former administrator of the CWCki Discord, a venue which forbids interaction with Chris on pain of a permaban, as well as an [[User:Klop|editor of this very wiki]], '''klop''' was involved with a considerable amount of interaction with Chris, most notably playing the [[Watchmen#The "Lainchu" Char|Lainchu]] character, as well as being a member/associate of the original Watchmen, albeit one without the prominence of those people listed above. Unlike most of the other minor players. he does not seem to have followed Sean into the Knights schism.}}
 
===Anaxis===
{{Fix-span|{{Cite}}|Also a [[User:Anaxis|CWCki editor]], '''Anaxis''' played the role of Lainchu in the original Watchmen and in Sean's splinter group.}}
 
==The "Lainchu" Character==
{{Main|Lainchu}}
 
'''Lainchu''', also known as '''Lainchu the Chronicler''', is an OC created by Chris, whose purpose is to document Chris's activities (and unofficially, to provide Christorians with first hand information), based on the protagonist of the [[anime]], ''[[Wikipedia:Serial Experiments Lain|Serial Experiments Lain]]'', in which a teenage girl finds herself engaging with a virtual world network, reminiscent of the [[internet]].
 
==Discord Servers==
The Watchmen were in various [[Discord]] servers.


===Arbitarch CWC Alliance===
===Untrusted Guests===
From before the Watchmen had fully come out to the public, the server was eventually shut down.  
{{See also|Jacob Sockness|Praetor|Isabella Loretta Janke|Fiona}}
[[File:Discussioneverfree2.png|thumb|200px|[[The WCT]] discusses in the Second Layer about allowing [[Bella]] into the [[Knights of CWC]] server.]]
The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as [[Jacob Sockness]] and [[Praetor]] in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.


===The Place===
The Knights had taken a page from this, and also hosted "untrusted guests", such as [[Bella]] and [[Fiona]] in their Discord server, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Knights could discuss them in private.
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Place.png|thumb|200px|The Place server.]]


The Place is the server Chris was in from 2020-June 2021. In [[August 2020]], the Watchmen announced the presence of the group publicly via the [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|2020 Discord leaks]]. It was during this time the Watchmen name was adopted to describe the group.
Due to their shared involvement in Christory, most especially with regards to the [[Incest Call]], their planned involvement with [[Everfree Northwest]], and the speculation about them that followed afterwards, two particular "untrusted guests", Bella and Fiona, are referred to as "'''The Untrusted Guests'''", to refer to them as a duo.


Signs of the group collapsing began appearing around late [[June 2021]]. Earlier in the month, The WCT had been doxed on [[Kiwi Farms]] by an account named Nightmare, and signs pointed to fellow Watchman and group leader Bismuth as the person behind the account.<ref name=naughtthread>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ (archive: https://archive.fo/G30td)</ref> When The WCT confronted Bismuth in a voice chat during the group’s movie night on 21 June, Bismuth denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox The WCT in an attempt to silence him. Kyle and MKRNightVee took Bismuth’s side in the dispute.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hYztxRHRA </ref>
==Behavior==


On 25 June, The WCT informed Chris about the infighting. He showed Chris screenshots of Nightmare's Kiwi Farms posts and the voice chat in which he had confronted the group over Bismuth being Nightmare. According to The WCT, Chris gradually processed the information, in particular picking up on red flags from Bismuth in the chat - noticing his defensiveness and hostility towards The WCT. Ultimately, Chris believed The WCT's evidence and apparently cut ties with Bismuth over it.<ref name=wctinterview>[[Watchmen#Interview]]</ref> A leaked voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3</ref> was posted to a Lolcow.org thread made about Bismuth the following day.<ref name=naughtthread></ref>
===Toxic trio===
{{Main|Toxic Trio}}
The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members [[Naught]], [[Kyle]], and [[MKRNightVee]].<ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref>


Kyle banned The WCT from the Watchmen's [[Discord]] server. In response, Chris then decided to leave their server. As The WCT explained, "he saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct." The [[Praetor]] group, who had also been in the server, left it as well following Chris's departure.<ref name=wctinterview></ref>
===Rationalizations for Enabling===


On 29 June, MKRNightVee made multiple tweets that suggested Chris had cut communications with her. She tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Your obviously good at using people and then moving on to the next. Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> She then followed up with accusations against The WCT, believing him to be messing with Chris and having sinister motives.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref>
Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.


===The Knights of CWC===
In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".<ref>[[The Place chats (March 2021)]]</ref>
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Knights of CWC.png|thumb|200px|left|The Knights of CWC server.]]  


'''The Knights of CWC''' was the server Chris was in from late June 2021 until his August 2021 arrest for [[incest]]. It was founded by [[Sean Walker]] following his fallout with Bismuth/Naught over the latter's doxing of the former leading to bad blood between the two of them and between Sean and MKR. Sean was unsure of calling his group by the Watchmen moniker. He also stated he wanted the group be kept secret as the earlier iteration of the Watchmen once had been.<ref>[[:File:WCT on Knights of CWC server.png]]</ref>
==Interactions with others==
===Ben Saint===
[[Ben Saint]] is an enabler who exploited Chris's infamy to boost his own webcomic series by inserting Chris's [[Night Star]] [[OC]], which led to conflict with Chris.


Notable were disagreements between the leaders of the two groups on how best to handle [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]. According to '''The Fool''', a longtime but now-banned [[Kiwi Farms]] user and lesser-known affiliate of the Watchmen and then the Knights:
On 23 [[September 2019]], Watchmen members raided a Twitch stream of Ben's to call him out.<ref>https://www.twitch.tv/saintcomix/video/485302712?filter=highlights&sort=time</ref>


{{quoteboxyellow|Neither naught or WCT were friends with bella, bella was in her own little white knight group controlling chris. WCT tried to be friendly with her so he could keep a short leash on her, bella was very defensive about it. WCT said naught actively tried to push bella away which might be why bella was defensive about WCT trying to interact with her, but that's just from what WCT said, I didn't witness anything the Watchmen ever did myself.
===Dillin Thomas===
On 24 [[January 2020]], [[Dillin Thomas]] uploaded a recording of Watchmen members harassing him on Discord.


both naught and WCT knew bella was a ween but they couldn't get chris to not interact with her, or the [[praetor]] crew in general for that matter. naught tried to outright demonize them while WCT tried to pretend to be friendly with them to facilitate open communication so they could know exactly what praetor was planning next. Neither plan worked, but, it's Chris, what can you do.<ref name=foolpraetor>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-27908 and https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-27912</ref>}}
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==Interviews==
===Midnight Moonflower===
===Bismuth===
{{See also|Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes}}
On 4 [[September 2020]], a Christorian interviewed Bismuth through Discord, asking questions about the Watchmen. The interviewer's questions are color-coded red, with Bismuth's responses color-coded white.
[[Midnight Moonflower]] is a former friend of Chris who met him at a [[BronyCon]]. The Watchmen raided her Discord server to intimidate its members over Chris being a member of the server.<ref>[[Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid]]</ref><ref>[[Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid, Part 2]]</ref>


{{collapsible|Q&A|The first four questions appear to be referring to the [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]] server.
===Praetor===
{{Main|Praetor-Watchmen Conflicts|Taser}}
[[Praetor]] is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] that first interacted with Chris around 22 [[September 2020]]. They are most known for running [[OfficialCWCmart]], a shop which sold Chris-themed items with his approval. Several Watchmen members spoke with [[Caden Peck]], the leader of Praetor, but talks quickly disintegrated. The Watchmen were highly hostile towards Praetor, despite the two groups having overlap with similar interactions with Chris. In some cases, the Watchmen's hostility stemmed from their misunderstanding the situation, such as Chris's royalty pay - some Watchmen incorrectly believed Chris's cut should have constituted nearly all of Praetor's revenue. In other cases, Watchmen lied about Praetor to the public, seen with the [[taser]] controversy. The hostility was so prevalent that Chris took notice and chastised the Watchmen over it. Ultimately, the Watchmen failed in their attempts to drive Praetor away.


{{quoteboxred|Who started it and why?}}
===Bella===


{{quoteboxwhite|Owls the guy who set-up mkr and [[Joseph Draft]] got aqua and mkr to draw some art to lure cwc in.}}
Chris told a group of Watchmen about an animation Bella made for Praetor, which caused suspicion when Chris mistakenly referred to her as one of their members. The WCT, whose group's ruleset was much more lenient to Chris orbiters, took her being in his server as a way of getting back at the Watchmen, citing MKR being upset at the Watchmen being "defeated" by them.


{{quoteboxred|How did Chris join there?}}
===Fiona===


{{quoteboxwhite|I was told it was going to be for Chris's patrons.}}
The Watchman Val had face doxed Fiona, and leaked her YouTube account onto the CWCki Discord server, causing him to get banned. <ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Discussing Snoo's Involvement, Chris is Served an EPO]]</ref> Fiona was also one of the people interviewed by the Watchmen in the Regarding Chris group chat after the Incest Call was leaked.


{{quoteboxred|Why was it killed?}}
===The American Hedgehog===
[[Image:The American Hedgehog.png|250px|thumb|Hurtful's Kiwi Farms profile picture]]
{{quote|I was a lurker in the The Place and Knights Watchmen servers but not actively. I’d generally peer in when Chris posted in the 1st layer which was easy to tell because he’d @ everyone. Sometimes I’d look at the 2nd hidden layer to see what they were discussing, and most of it seemed boring to me - commentary about CWC Twitter updates, his weens, personal talk, off-topic posting, etc.|Hurtful Truth Level on his observations of The Place server.<ref>[[User:Hurtful Truth Level/Statement#Why I haven't been around much]]</ref>}}
'''The American Hedgehog''', also known as '''[[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]]''', is a [[Kiwi Farms]] and [[r/ChrisChanSonichu]] moderator, and a jerkop, bureaucrat, and admin for the [[CWCki]]. He was a member of [[The Place]] after being invited in [[August 2020]], and is responsible for leaking content from the server from both the First and Second Layer, and making it accessible as of [[July 2025]]. He also joined the [[Knights of CWC]] server after being invited by [[WCT]]. Despite [[Anaxis]]' claims that he is "pretty strictly an observer in the purest sense",<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#Hurtful Truth Level]]</ref> Hurtful has conversed directly with Chris on at least two occasions.<ref>[[The Place chats (September 2020)#High Heart Rate]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#Christmas and Merge Talk]]</ref>


{{quoteboxwhite|It was killed because owls and Joseph didn't know how to wrangle tards. Mkr aqua were being blamed for making it so I asked for a mod role kept asking for more perms and deleted all the channel's. I posted the rolling and trolling vid.}}
On 11 [[October 2025]], he posted [[User:Hurtful Truth Level/On The Captain|an essay]] to the CWCki clarifying aspects of the [[Guard Dogs]] saga.


{{quoteboxred|Who killed it?}}
==Discord==
{{Main|The Place}}
The Watchmen's primary platform for reaching out to Chris and people that they suspected as being weens was Discord.


{{quoteboxwhite|I killed it, Joseph and Smokey Chris TheSperge were using the server to gather content, they convinced Joseph I was Johan.
===Server Structure===


After a 4 hour conversation I got Joseph draft to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet.}}
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Place.png|thumb|150px|Watchmen server [[The Place]]. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "2nd Layer".]]
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Knights of CWC.png|thumb|150px|Watchmen server [[The Knights of CWC]]. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "Private".]]


The last two appear to refer to the Watchmen as a group.
Both The Place and The Knights of CWC Discord servers were structured to have two layers of channels. The Watchmen assigned roles to server members to allow them to view certain layers.


{{quoteboxred|Why did Aqua leave?}}
The '''First Layer''' included a General channel for Chris to chat in. Chris and the Watchmen's Untrusted Guests could view and post only in the First Layer.


{{quoteboxwhite|Stress and people @ her on Twitter
The '''Second Layer''' included a channel for discussion of Chris. The layer was hidden from Chris and Untrusted Guests to enable the Watchmen to hold discussions.
 
Her and mkr are still frens}}
 
{{quoteboxred|Will this group be around forever?}}
 
{{quoteboxwhite|As long as Chris is in need or willing yes<ref>[[:File:4September2020 WatchmenOriginQ&A 1.png]][[:File:4September2020 WatchmenOriginQ&A 2.png]]</ref>}}}}


==See also==
==See also==
*[[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]] - The group that most of the first Watchmen originated from
*[[CWCProtectSquad]]
*[[CWCProtectSquad]]
*[[Guard Dogs]]
*[[Guard Dogs]]
*[[The Knights of CWC]] - A group that [[The WCT]] had created following getting doxed by Naught.
*[[The Miscreants]] - Essentially the inverse of the Watchmen
*[[Nightvee & the Warriors For Andromeda]], a [[TSSSF]] pack featuring some Watchmen
*[[Watchmen Chats]]
*[[Watchmen infighting drama]]
==Notes==
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==References==
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For the sake of clarity, the term "Watchmen" will strictly refer to any of the active members from The Place server, as the name was created after the group was discovered, and several iterations of the group, all with different leaderships, names, and rules, came about, both before and after the name was made.
You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.
Naught, one of the Watchmen, to Chris.[1]
Something going further wrong in the group once again?
Chris, showing awareness of the group's tendency for internal drama.[2]


Watchmen
Information
Name Watchmen
Also known as Watchdogs
Saga Arbitarch, Secret Shipfic, Watchmen, Crystalgate, Lainchu, Knights

The Watchmen (sometimes mistakenly refered to as "the Watchdogs") were a clique of fanatical enablers whose members served as gatekeepers and white knights for Chris. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential weens, trolls, and A-logs.[3] Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members MKRNightVee, Naught, The WCT, and XIII on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. After Chris was jailed for incest, their purpose became moot.

Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of enabling his delusions by pretending to be fellow CPU goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in magical thinking and the Dimensional Merge. Another tactic they used was in drawing fanart for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or Sonichu forms; the art was usually drawn by either MKRNightVee or AquaDiamond8. They have also made use of the OC Lainchu, played by at least four members of the group.

As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late 2019 onwards, such as attempting to dismantle Jacob Sockness’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance Discord server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.[4] Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including chatting with them on Google Hangouts and over Discord. The Watchmen were also behind the Discord leaks in August 2020, and the Discord Q&As.

The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on August 2020 by Klop, as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.[5] However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how The Miscreants presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, Metal Gear. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade CPU Goddesses.

Origins

Main article: Arbitarch CWC Alliance
Christian Weston Manhattan

What eventually became the Watchmen can be tied back to Chris's interactions with Meghan Kathleen Ringo, more commonly known as MKRNightVee or MKR. MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.[6] Owls tried to coach MKR[6] and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.[7]

After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to manipulate Chris's beliefs away from the Dimensional Merge through telling him that the CPU goddesses had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.[6]

time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.
Owls[7]

According to Naught, from Owls account, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and Marvin of the Guard Dogs group (the latter also being gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Naught claimed that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.[8]

Naught claims that due to internal conflicts between the Arbitarch Alliance, some of which involved events having to do with Chris such as the handling of BABscon and the Chris Chan Vs. The Internet documentary, he shut down the group, and took the role of leader away from Owls, ultimately leading to the creation of the Watchmen under his leadership. Naught had then doxed several of the members that opted out of the group, or were in conflicts with him, on Kiwi Farms about a year later.

Reveal

The Watchmen group revealed its presence in August 2020. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, Chris's Last Will and Testament, which he decided to share with the Watchman member Naught.[9] Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the Official CWCki Server and leaked a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).[10]

The Players

Members

Main article: Watchmen members

Untrusted Guests

The WCT discusses in the Second Layer about allowing Bella into the Knights of CWC server.

The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as Jacob Sockness and Praetor in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.

The Knights had taken a page from this, and also hosted "untrusted guests", such as Bella and Fiona in their Discord server, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Knights could discuss them in private.

Due to their shared involvement in Christory, most especially with regards to the Incest Call, their planned involvement with Everfree Northwest, and the speculation about them that followed afterwards, two particular "untrusted guests", Bella and Fiona, are referred to as "The Untrusted Guests", to refer to them as a duo.

Behavior

Toxic trio

Main article: Toxic Trio

The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members Naught, Kyle, and MKRNightVee.[11]

Rationalizations for Enabling

Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.

In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".[12]

Interactions with others

Ben Saint

Ben Saint is an enabler who exploited Chris's infamy to boost his own webcomic series by inserting Chris's Night Star OC, which led to conflict with Chris.

On 23 September 2019, Watchmen members raided a Twitch stream of Ben's to call him out.[13]

Dillin Thomas

On 24 January 2020, Dillin Thomas uploaded a recording of Watchmen members harassing him on Discord.


ຮṎṈḭᏨ ḭṈຮᾀṈḭtẙ The Followers Of Chris Chan Reach Out To Me
Direct link Youtube, archive
Stardate 24 January 2020
Made By Dillin Thomas (DHT)
TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos

Midnight Moonflower

Midnight Moonflower is a former friend of Chris who met him at a BronyCon. The Watchmen raided her Discord server to intimidate its members over Chris being a member of the server.[14][15]

Praetor

Main articles: Praetor-Watchmen Conflicts and Taser

Praetor is a group of carpetbaggers that first interacted with Chris around 22 September 2020. They are most known for running OfficialCWCmart, a shop which sold Chris-themed items with his approval. Several Watchmen members spoke with Caden Peck, the leader of Praetor, but talks quickly disintegrated. The Watchmen were highly hostile towards Praetor, despite the two groups having overlap with similar interactions with Chris. In some cases, the Watchmen's hostility stemmed from their misunderstanding the situation, such as Chris's royalty pay - some Watchmen incorrectly believed Chris's cut should have constituted nearly all of Praetor's revenue. In other cases, Watchmen lied about Praetor to the public, seen with the taser controversy. The hostility was so prevalent that Chris took notice and chastised the Watchmen over it. Ultimately, the Watchmen failed in their attempts to drive Praetor away.

Bella

Chris told a group of Watchmen about an animation Bella made for Praetor, which caused suspicion when Chris mistakenly referred to her as one of their members. The WCT, whose group's ruleset was much more lenient to Chris orbiters, took her being in his server as a way of getting back at the Watchmen, citing MKR being upset at the Watchmen being "defeated" by them.

Fiona

The Watchman Val had face doxed Fiona, and leaked her YouTube account onto the CWCki Discord server, causing him to get banned. [16] Fiona was also one of the people interviewed by the Watchmen in the Regarding Chris group chat after the Incest Call was leaked.

The American Hedgehog

Hurtful's Kiwi Farms profile picture
I was a lurker in the The Place and Knights Watchmen servers but not actively. I’d generally peer in when Chris posted in the 1st layer which was easy to tell because he’d @ everyone. Sometimes I’d look at the 2nd hidden layer to see what they were discussing, and most of it seemed boring to me - commentary about CWC Twitter updates, his weens, personal talk, off-topic posting, etc.
Hurtful Truth Level on his observations of The Place server.[17]

The American Hedgehog, also known as Hurtful Truth Level, is a Kiwi Farms and r/ChrisChanSonichu moderator, and a jerkop, bureaucrat, and admin for the CWCki. He was a member of The Place after being invited in August 2020, and is responsible for leaking content from the server from both the First and Second Layer, and making it accessible as of July 2025. He also joined the Knights of CWC server after being invited by WCT. Despite Anaxis' claims that he is "pretty strictly an observer in the purest sense",[18] Hurtful has conversed directly with Chris on at least two occasions.[19][20]

On 11 October 2025, he posted an essay to the CWCki clarifying aspects of the Guard Dogs saga.

Discord

Main article: The Place

The Watchmen's primary platform for reaching out to Chris and people that they suspected as being weens was Discord.

Server Structure

Watchmen server The Place. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "2nd Layer".
Watchmen server The Knights of CWC. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "Private".

Both The Place and The Knights of CWC Discord servers were structured to have two layers of channels. The Watchmen assigned roles to server members to allow them to view certain layers.

The First Layer included a General channel for Chris to chat in. Chris and the Watchmen's Untrusted Guests could view and post only in the First Layer.

The Second Layer included a channel for discussion of Chris. The layer was hidden from Chris and Untrusted Guests to enable the Watchmen to hold discussions.

See also

Notes


References

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The Players

Organizations: The PlaceOfficial CWCki Server
People: ChrisWatchmen members (NaughtKyleMKRNightVeeThe WCTAnaxisKlopAquaDiamond8OwlsThe Fool) • Targets (BellaBen SaintCarrie KruegerFionaGiBiHelena FiorenzaJames Lewis MartinKevin FairchildLarry VaughnMidnight MoonflowerOpuscon789Praetor)


The Games
Watchmen Chats: General • Solo Members (KyleMKRNightVeeNaughtThe WCT)
Naught: Kyle: MKRNightVee: The WCT: Other:

Coinciding Sagas
Arbitarch, Secret Shipfic, Saint, ProjectSNT, Lainchu, Crystalgate, Warhol, Knights


    People