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{{incomplete|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]}}
{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|The "Watchmen" were not an organization like the [[CWCProtectSquad]] or the [[Guard Dogs]].|includegossip=yes}}
{{Protip|For the sake of clarity, the term "Watchmen" will strictly refer to any of the active members from [[The Place]] server, as the name was created after the group was discovered, and several iterations of the group, all with different leaderships, names, and rules, came about, both before and after the name was made.}}
{{quote|You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.|[[Naught]], one of the Watchmen, to Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}
{{quote|You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.|[[Naught]], one of the Watchmen, to Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Something going further wrong in the group once again?|Chris, showing awareness of the group's tendency for internal drama.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Something going further wrong in the group once again?|Chris, showing awareness of the group's tendency for internal drama.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place]]</ref>}}


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The '''Watchmen''' were a clique of fanatical [[enablers]] whose members served as [[gatekeepers]] and [[white knights]] for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, for much of its history the clique was highly aggressive towards outside people coming into contact with Chris whether they had demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential [[weens]], [[trolls]], and [[A-Log|A-logs]].<ref name=OwlsFeud>{{Cite farms|thread=75256|wayback=20211102022529|title= Orbiter general thread}}</ref> Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members [[MKRNightVee]], [[Naught]], [[The WCT]], and [[XIII]] on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting also ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. With Chris currently jailed for [[Affair with Mother|incest]], their purpose has become moot.
The '''Watchmen''' (sometimes mistakenly refered to as '''"the Watchdogs"''') were a clique of fanatical [[enablers]] whose members served as [[gatekeepers]] and [[white knights]] for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential [[weens]], [[trolls]], and [[A-Log|A-logs]].<ref name=OwlsFeud>{{Cite farms|thread=75256|wayback=20211102022529|title= Orbiter general thread}}</ref> Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members [[MKRNightVee]], [[Naught]], [[The WCT]], and [[XIII]] on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. After Chris was jailed for [[Affair with Mother|incest]], their purpose became moot.


Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Another tactic they used was in drawing fanart for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or other Watchmen members in CPU or Sonichu forms; the art was usually drawn by either [[MKRNightVee]] or [[AquaDiamond8]]. They have also made use of the OC [[Lainchu]], played by at least four members of the group.
Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Another tactic they used was in drawing [[fanart]] for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or [[Sonichu_(species)|Sonichu]] forms; the art was usually drawn by either [[MKRNightVee]] or [[AquaDiamond8]]. They have also made use of the OC [[Lainchu]], played by at least four members of the group.


As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late [[2019]] onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance Discord server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref> Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were also behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]], and the [[Discord Q&A]]s.
As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late [[2019]] onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance [[Discord]] server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref> Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were also behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]], and the [[Discord Q&A]]s.


The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on August 2020 by one of its members, as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.<ref>[[Talk:Watchmen#Title]]</ref> However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'', their inspiration.
The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on [[August 2020]] by [[Klop]], as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.<ref>[[Talk:Watchmen#Title]]</ref> However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, ''[[Metal Gear]]''. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade [[CPU Goddesses]].


==Origins==
==Origins==
[[File:ChrisDoctorManhattan.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Christian Weston Manhattan]]  
[[File:ChrisDoctorManhattan.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Christian Weston Manhattan]]  
What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server. There, Owls met Meghan (aka [[MKRNightVee]] or MKR), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").<ref name=owlsaccount>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/page-1257#post-7343340 (Archive: https://archive.fo/06IZx)</ref>


MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=cap2>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/</ref> Owls tried to coach MKR<ref name=cpuowls>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl5-png.644835/</ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>
What eventually became the Watchmen can be tied back to Chris's interactions with Meghan Kathleen Ringo, more commonly known as MKRNightVee or MKR. MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=sonsmiscreants>[[The Sons of the Miscreants]]</ref> Owls tried to coach MKR<ref name=sonsmiscreants></ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>


After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=cpuowls></ref>  
After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=sonsmiscreants></ref>  


{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}
{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}
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==Reveal==
==Reveal==
The Watchmen group revealed its presence in [[August 2020]]. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, [[Chris's Last Will and Testament]], which he decided to share with the Watchman member [[Naught]].<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref> Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the Official CWCki Server [[Discord]] and leaked [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group]] over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).<ref>[[Discord#Official CWCki Server]]</ref>
The Watchmen group revealed its presence in [[August 2020]]. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, [[Chris's Last Will and Testament]], which he decided to share with the Watchman member [[Naught]].<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref> Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the [[Official CWCki Server]] and leaked [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group]] over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).<ref>[[Official CWCki Server]]</ref>


==The Players==
==The Players==
===Owls===
===Members===
[[File:Ryan Owls.png|thumb|150px|Owls IRL.]]
{{main|Watchmen members}}
The original founder of the organization went by '''Ryan Winger''', more commonly referred to as '''Owls''', in his interactions with the Watchmen, and as '''GhostBird50''' on the [[Kiwi Farms]],<ref name=owlsaccount></ref> and as '''CpuTurquoiseHeart''' to Chris,<ref name=cpuowls></ref>.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> Initially, Owls advised MKRNightVee in interacting with Chris and founded the Watchmen's Discord server. Owls also acted as a liaison between Watchmen and [[Guard Dogs]] member Marvin, though fellow Watchman Naught alleged that he hadn't been reporting back to Marvin.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> Owls eventually left the group, stating he wanted no more part in Chris's situation or in Internet drama,<ref>[[:File:Ghostbird_kiwistatus.png]]</ref> and was succeeded by Naught. This seems to have come when he got involved in a feud<ref name=OwlsFeud></ref> with several other obscure Chris orbiters.
 
===Naught===
{{Main|Naught}}
[[File:Naught.jpg|150px|thumb|left|Naught's Kiwi Farms profile picture]]
'''Naught''', also known as '''Bismuth''' and '''CPU Bismuth Heart''' to Chris was the second leader of the Watchmen, taking over the group after Owls left.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> He monitored and doxed potential weens or outside enablers. In June 2020, Naught posted fellow Watchmen The WCT's dox onto [[Kiwi Farms]] in retaliation for WCT declining to share his Kiwi Farms account with him after Naught had been banned from the site,<ref name=naughtedit>[https://archive.ph/wip/9215A An actual CWCki edit from Naught/Bismuth, admitting to have doxxed Sean.]</ref> which lead to WCT ousting Naught and two others who had sided with Naught from the group.
 
===The WCT===
[[File:SeanWalker.png|thumb|200px|The WCT IRL]]
 
{{Main|The WCT}}
 
'''Sean Walker''', also known as '''The WCT''', and primarily known in the context of the Watchmen as '''Conner''' or '''neko''', was the third and last leader of the Watchmen, taking over after a conflict with Naught. He also archived calls involving Chris and occasionally gave interviews to observers. In November 2020, Chris took an interest in mass shooter [[Randy Stair]], whose belief system regarding cartoons and alternative universes bears more than a passing relationship with Chris's, after watching a YouTube documentary on Stair produced by Sean.<ref>[[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref> In February 2021, Sean attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of [[Lainchu]] but Chris rejected his attempt. In June 2021, Naught doxed Sean for declining to share his [[Kiwi Farms]] account after Naught had been banned from the site;<ref name=naughtedit></ref> Sean responded by convincing Chris to leave the Watchmen's then-current Discord server [[The Place]].<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place]]</ref> Sean then founded [[Watchmen#The Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]], a Watchmen splinter Discord server, where eventually in July 2021 Chris invited [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]. Prior to Chris's arrest for incest, Sean reached out to Bella again asking for her side of the story, who was able to manipulate Sean into attempting to shift blame from Isabella to the [[Suitress]].
 
===Kyle===
[[File:Kylechu sonichu.jpg|Kyle in [[TSSSF]] form.|thumb|left|200px]]
An admin in The Place Discord server, '''Kyle''', also known as '''Nova'''<ref>[[:File:ThePlace1stLayer2Feb21-Piezoelectricity12.png]]</ref> and '''Spade''', was present in the [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|Google Hangout chats]]. Kyle was also the inspiration for Chris's [[:File:KylechuOC.jpg|Kylechu]] OC. Kyle has mentioned working at a suicide hotline, though he has mentioned that at least one caller had gone through with taking their own lives,<ref name=kylesuicide>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-17264</ref> something which was revealed in Discord leaks, both audio and text.
 
Chris had mixed feelings on Kyle. In a 26 [[June 2021]] text to [[Null]], Chris said on Kyle that he "talks soo damn much, boasting his smart-talk, interrogating my intentions and present mentalities. Damn, he's seriously tiring."<ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris texts Null]]</ref> Kyle was one of the first people that Chris had told his plans of shocking his crystals with electricity to, believing that he could help explain piezoelectricity to him, while citing a click-baity article about using the phenomenon to open up portals. Kyle would, however, attempt to reason with Chris regarding this, questioning his findings, to which Chris acted flustered.
 
===MKRNightVee===
{{Main|MKRNightVee}}
[[Image:MeghanRingo.jpg|250px|thumb|MKRNightVee IRL]]
'''Meghan K. Ringo''', also known as '''MKRNightVee''', '''CPUMagentaHeart''' and '''thepixietailartist''', and sometimes referred to as '''Maker''' by Chris, appeared in early [[2019]]. She got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up Chris's phone number for her.<ref name=cap2></ref> She presented herself to Chris as being the [[CPU]] goddess of the [[Nintendo Switch]], offering him validation on his fantasies of having magic powers.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454/</ref> She has stated that her goal isn't to feed into Chris's delusions so much as to offer advice and help.<ref>[[:File:MKR motives.png]]</ref> Chris offered her several of his possessions in his [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|Last Will and Testament]].
 
===The "Lainchu" role===
{{Main|Lainchu}}
[[File:LainchuT&H.jpg|thumb|left|150px]]
'''Lainchu''', also known as '''Lainchu the Chronicler''', is an OC created by Chris, whose purpose is to document Chris's activities (and unofficially, to provide Christorians with first hand information), based on the protagonist of the [[anime]], ''[[Wikipedia:Serial Experiments Lain|Serial Experiments Lain]]'', in which a teenage girl finds herself engaging with a virtual world network, reminiscent of the [[internet]].
 
===Minor Watchmen===
{{Main|Minor Watchmen Members}}
 
The group had also consisted of many other people, some of which playing some role in the Watchmen Saga.


===Untrusted Guests===
===Untrusted Guests===
{{incomplete}}
{{See also|Jacob Sockness|Praetor|Isabella Loretta Janke|Fiona}}
{{See also|Jacob Sockness|Praetor|Isabella Loretta Janke|The Suitress}}
[[File:Discussioneverfree2.png|thumb|200px|[[The WCT]] discusses in the Second Layer about allowing [[Bella]] into the [[Knights of CWC]] server.]]
[[File:Discussioneverfree2.png|thumb|200px|[[The WCT]] discusses in the Second Layer about allowing [[Bella]] into the [[Knights of CWC]] server.]]
The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as [[Jacob Sockness]], [[Praetor]], [[the Suitress]], and [[Bella]] in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.
The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as [[Jacob Sockness]] and [[Praetor]] in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.


Sockness and Praetor were untrusted guests in [[The Place]], and Bella and [[the Suitress]] were untrusted guests in [[Knights of CWC]].
The Knights had taken a page from this, and also hosted "untrusted guests", such as [[Bella]] and [[Fiona]] in their Discord server, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Knights could discuss them in private.
 
Due to their shared involvement in Christory, most especially with regards to the [[Incest Call]], their planned involvement with [[Everfree Northwest]], and the speculation about them that followed afterwards, two particular "untrusted guests", Bella and Fiona, are referred to as "'''The Untrusted Guests'''", to refer to them as a duo.


==Behavior==
==Behavior==
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The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members [[Naught]], [[Kyle]], and [[MKRNightVee]].<ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref>
The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members [[Naught]], [[Kyle]], and [[MKRNightVee]].<ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref>
===Infighting===
The Watchmen group was prone to infighting.
On 28 [[June 2021]], in the wake of more infighting between [[Naught]] and [[The WCT]], which stemmed from Naught posting The WCT's dox for declining to share his Kiwi Farms account,<ref name=naughtedit></ref> the former Watchmen member [[Minor Watchmen Members#Spunky|Spunky]] wrote an account on the website lolcow.org alleging that Naught had used her Kiwi Farms account for his own purposes and that she was consistently belittled by both Naught and [[MKR]] in their server.<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-16378 (archive: https://archive.ph/sHJsm)</ref>


===Rationalizations for Enabling===
===Rationalizations for Enabling===
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Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.
Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.


In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".<ref>[[March 2021 Watchmen leaks]]</ref>
In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".<ref>[[The Place chats (March 2021)]]</ref>


==Interactions with others==
==Interactions with others==
{{incomplete|More examples}}
===Midnight Moonflower===
{{See also|Midnight Moonflower Discord chats}}
[[Midnight Moonflower]] is a former friend of Chris who met him at a [[BronyCon]]. The Watchmen raided her Discord server to intimidate its members over Chris being a member of the server.<ref>[[Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raid]]</ref><ref>[[Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raid, Part 2]]</ref>
===Joseph Draft===
Joseph Draft planned a documentary project titled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]''. He made arrangements and filmed footage with Chris before the documentary was cancelled. According to [[Naught]], Draft destroyed the drive with the footage over stress from [[Megan]] changing her mind about being included and other YouTubers trying to monetize it,<ref>[[Undated Discord leaks#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref> and that Naught had "a 4 hour conversation" with Draft in which he got him "to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet."<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref>
===Ben Saint===
===Ben Saint===
[[Ben Saint]] is an enabler who exploited Chris's infamy to boost his own webcomic series by inserting Chris's [[Night Star]] [[OC]], which led to conflict with Chris.
[[Ben Saint]] is an enabler who exploited Chris's infamy to boost his own webcomic series by inserting Chris's [[Night Star]] [[OC]], which led to conflict with Chris.
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On 23 [[September 2019]], Watchmen members raided a Twitch stream of Ben's to call him out.<ref>https://www.twitch.tv/saintcomix/video/485302712?filter=highlights&sort=time</ref>
On 23 [[September 2019]], Watchmen members raided a Twitch stream of Ben's to call him out.<ref>https://www.twitch.tv/saintcomix/video/485302712?filter=highlights&sort=time</ref>


===Praetor===
===Dillin Thomas===
[[Praetor]] is a group of enablers appearing in the fall of [[2020]] who produced and sold Sonichu-themed products with Chris's permission on [[Etsy]] and gave him a portion of the profits in exchange.
On 24 [[January 2020]], [[Dillin Thomas]] uploaded a recording of Watchmen members harassing him on Discord.
 
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In [[February 2021]], Chris wanted to borrow Praetor's [[taser]] in order to tase his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] [[quartz crystals]], believing this would open an interdimensional portal and bring about the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[[Naught DMs#Chris wants to activate the Merge by playing with taser]]</ref> The Watchmen objected to this plan, to which Praetor member [[Caden]] claimed they would supervise Chris and that he would not be at risk.<ref>[[Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser]]</ref>
===Joseph Draft===
Joseph Draft planned a documentary project titled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]''. He made arrangements and filmed footage with Chris before the documentary was cancelled. According to [[Naught]], Draft destroyed the drive with the footage over stress from [[Megan]] changing her mind about being included and other YouTubers trying to monetize it,<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref> and that Naught had "a 4 hour conversation" with Draft in which he got him "to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet."<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref>


Talks between the two groups quickly disintegrated.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]</ref> Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[MKR]] took to spreading rumors about Praetor, each using out-of-context snippets from the discussions.
===Midnight Moonflower===
{{See also|Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes}}
[[Midnight Moonflower]] is a former friend of Chris who met him at a [[BronyCon]]. The Watchmen raided her Discord server to intimidate its members over Chris being a member of the server.<ref>[[Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid]]</ref><ref>[[Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid, Part 2]]</ref>


Naught made a [[Kiwi Farms]] post in which he posted a clip from the [[Taser Discussion]] voice chat.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/page-8#post-8301396 Archive (https://archive.fo/YVFf8)</ref> In the clip, Watchmen member [[Val]] states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. [[Praetor]] member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about ''why'' it's a bad idea."
===Praetor===
{{Main|Praetor-Watchmen Conflicts|Taser}}
[[Praetor]] is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] that first interacted with Chris as late as 22 [[September 2020]]. After Chris talked with the Watchmen about a "lore bible" that the group was collaborating with him on, as well as a sermon he planned to make about the Dimensional Merge after having a dream about a golden disc, they began to become suspicious of the group. They briefly talked about this with the Praetor Discord account, which was run by Caden Peck, the CEO of the company.


In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected.
The sermon, combined with other related incidents, had made the Watchmen view Praetor as an enemy, especially after Chris had mentioned wanting to use a taser to shock his Gate Crystal, something which prompted the members to confront Caden. After Chris confronted the Watchmen about their approach towards the group, some of the members viewed this as a sign that Praetor had their grasp on him and that they still needed to pry him away.


MKR posted on Twitter to spread a rumor that Praetor wanted to get Chris to use a stun gun on himself. She gave no proof of the allegation, instead posting an out-of-context screenshot<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1358939937463169024 (archive: https://archive.ph/PYMQh)</ref> from Watchmen-Praetor talks.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#8 February 2021, part 2]]</ref>
===Bella===


The Christuber [[GiBi]] believed the Watchmen's spin, creating a video in which he erroneously attributed the members in Naught's clip to Praetor - including the Watchmen Val - as well as reading from MKR's tweet.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HfueLWzjY&lc=Ugz1EEI4ON6dhsYi1gN4AaABAg</ref> Chris viewed the video and claimed the taser to have been his own idea, defending Praetor.<ref>[[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Chris Chan is Convinced to Taser Himself]]</ref>
The WCT hosted the [[Regarding Chris]] chats, where he and a few minor Watchmen had interviewed [[Bella]] in order to get an understanding of the Incest Call leaks.


Later, Chris criticized [[The Place]] members for their aggressive behavior, though Watchmen members Kyle and MKR immediately resumed hostile remarks towards Praetor, leaving Chris disappointed.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#13 February 2021]]</ref>
===Fiona===


===Bella===
The Watchman Val had face doxed Fiona, and leaked her YouTube account onto the CWCki Discord server, causing him to get banned. <ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Discussing Snoo's Involvement, Chris is Served an EPO]]</ref> Fiona was also one of the people interviewed by the Watchmen in the Regarding Chris group chat after the Incest Call was leaked.


The WCT had hosted the [[Regarding Chris]] chats, where he and a few minor Watchmen had interviewed [[Bella]] in order to get an understanding of the Incest Call leaks.
===The American Hedgehog===
[[Image:The American Hedgehog.png|250px|thumb|Hurtful's Kiwi Farms profile picture]]
{{quote|I was a lurker in the The Place and Knights Watchmen servers but not actively. I’d generally peer in when Chris posted in the 1st layer which was easy to tell because he’d @ everyone. Sometimes I’d look at the 2nd hidden layer to see what they were discussing, and most of it seemed boring to me - commentary about CWC Twitter updates, his weens, personal talk, off-topic posting, etc.|Hurtful Truth Level on his observations of The Place server.<ref>[[User:Hurtful Truth Level/Statement#Why I haven't been around much]]</ref>}}
'''The American Hedgehog''', also known as '''Hurtful Truth Level''', is a [[Kiwi Farms]] moderator, and a jerkop and bureaucrat for the [[CWCki]]. He was also a member of [[The Place]] after being invited in [[August 2020]], and is responsible for leaking content from the server from both the First and Second Layer, and making it accessible as of [[March 2025]]. He also joined the [[Knights of CWC]] server after being invited by [[WCT]]. Despite [[Anaxis]]' claims that he is "pretty strictly an observer in the purest sense",<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#Hurtful Truth Level]]</ref> Hurtful has conversed directly with Chris on at least two occasions.<ref>[[The Place chats (September 2020)#High Heart Rate]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#Christmas and Merge Talk]]</ref>


==Discord==
==Discord==
 
{{Main|The Place}}
The Watchmen's primary platform for reaching out to Chris and people that they suspected as being weens was Discord.
The Watchmen's primary platform for reaching out to Chris and people that they suspected as being weens was Discord.


===Server Structure===
===Server Structure===
{{Incomplete|Info on structure of other servers}}


[[File:Watchmen Discord The Place.png|thumb|150px|Watchmen server [[The Place]]. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "2nd Layer".]]
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Place.png|thumb|150px|Watchmen server [[The Place]]. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "2nd Layer".]]
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The '''Second Layer''' included a channel for discussion of Chris. The layer was hidden from Chris and Untrusted Guests to enable the Watchmen to hold discussions.
The '''Second Layer''' included a channel for discussion of Chris. The layer was hidden from Chris and Untrusted Guests to enable the Watchmen to hold discussions.
===Discord servers===
Below are a list of several of the Discord Servers that were created for the iniative of the Watchmen.
====Arbitarch CWC Alliance====
From before the Watchmen had fully come out to the public, the server was eventually shut down.
====The Place====
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Place.png|thumb|200px|The Place server.]]
The Place is the server Chris was in from approximately [[September 2019]]{{refn|group="note"|The Place server may predate September 2019 as it had been reset during that month.<ref>[[:File:The Place reset.png]]</ref>}}-[[June 2021]]. In [[August 2020]], the Watchmen announced the presence of the group publicly via the [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|2020 Discord leaks]]. It was during this time the Watchmen name was adopted to describe the group.
Signs of the group collapsing began appearing around late [[June 2021]]. Earlier in the month, The WCT had been doxed on [[Kiwi Farms]] by an account named Nightmare, and signs pointed to fellow Watchman and group leader Naught as the person behind the account.<ref name=naughtthread>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ (archive: https://archive.fo/G30td)</ref> When The WCT confronted Naught in a voice chat during the group’s movie night on 21 June, Naught denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox The WCT in an attempt to silence him. Kyle and MKRNightVee took Bismuth’s side in the dispute.<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls]]</ref>
On 25 June, The WCT informed Chris about the infighting. He showed Chris screenshots of Nightmare's Kiwi Farms posts and the voice chat in which he had confronted the group over Naught being Nightmare. According to The WCT, Chris gradually processed the information, in particular picking up on red flags from Bismuth in the chat - noticing his defensiveness and hostility towards The WCT. Ultimately, Chris believed The WCT's evidence and apparently cut ties with Bismuth over it.<ref name=wctinterview>[[Watchmen#Interview]]</ref> A leaked voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls]] ([https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3 Clip form, hosted at lolcow.org])</ref> (a pseudonym of Naught's) was posted to a Lolcow.org thread made about Naught the following day.<ref name=naughtthread></ref>
Kyle banned The WCT from the Watchmen's [[Discord]] server. In response, Chris then decided to leave their server. As The WCT explained, "he saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct." The [[Praetor]] group, who had also been in the server, left it as well following Chris's departure.<ref name=wctinterview></ref>
On 29 June, MKRNightVee made multiple tweets that suggested Chris had cut communications with her. She tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Your obviously good at using people and then moving on to the next. Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> She then followed up with accusations against The WCT, believing him to be messing with Chris and having sinister motives.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref>
====The Knights of CWC====
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Knights of CWC.png|thumb|200px|left|The Knights of CWC server.]]
'''The Knights of CWC''' was the server Chris was in from 25 June 2021<ref>[[:File:Knights of CWC join.png]]</ref> until his August 2021 arrest for incest. It was founded by [[The WCT]] following his fallout with [[Naught]], Kyle and MKR over Naught's doxing of WCT leading to bad blood between them. WCT was unsure of calling his group by the Watchmen moniker. He also stated he wanted the group be kept secret as the earlier iteration of the Watchmen once had been.<ref>[[:File:WCT on Knights of CWC server.png]]</ref> He modeled the structure of the Knights server after The Place.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#The Suitress enters Knights of CWC server]]</ref>
Notable were disagreements between the two groups on how best to handle [[enablers]] and [[weens]]. The Knights aimed to take a less aggressive approach,<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Bella enters Knights of CWC server]]</ref> planning only to intervene in cases of malicious intentions.<ref name=intentions>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Intentions]]</ref> such as [[Jacob Sockness]]'s plot to attend [[Everfree Northwest]] in disguise to meet with Chris.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Countering Sockness]]</ref>
On 19 July 2021, Chris introduced [[Bella]] to the group. As she had not demonstrated malicious intentions to them, The WCT said, "as long as your intentions are good, you'll be fine."<ref name=intentions></ref> According to [[The Fool]], a longtime but now-banned [[Kiwi Farms]] user and minor member of both The Place and The Knights:
{{quoteboxyellow|Neither naught or WCT were friends with bella, bella was in her own little white knight group controlling chris. WCT tried to be friendly with her so he could keep a short leash on her, bella was very defensive about it. WCT said naught actively tried to push bella away which might be why bella was defensive about WCT trying to interact with her, but that's just from what WCT said, I didn't witness anything the Watchmen ever did myself.
both naught and WCT knew bella was a ween but they couldn't get chris to not interact with her, or the [[praetor]] crew in general for that matter. naught tried to outright demonize them while WCT tried to pretend to be friendly with them to facilitate open communication so they could know exactly what praetor was planning next. Neither plan worked, but, it's Chris, what can you do.<ref name=foolpraetor>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-27908 and https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-27912</ref>}}
====Regarding Chris====
{{Main|Regarding Chris chats}}
'''Regarding Chris''' was a group chat created by [[The WCT]] with some of the other Watchmen members from The Knights of CWC server on 30 July 2021. Its purpose was to question [[Bella]] about her role in the [[Incest Call]] leak, since she had been named by [[Null]] as a person involved. However, the move backfired as during the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing the [[Suitress]] for being the voice in the call{{refn|group="note"|Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call<ref>{{Cite farms|title=<nowiki>[THREAD RETIRED]</nowiki> Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people|thread=96787|post=9632321}}</ref>}} and alleging her [[fabricated BDSM texts]] to be legitimate and goading WCT to disseminating the material and naming the Suitress as his source.
The full chat was later leaked.<ref name=regarding>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms]</ref>


==See also==
==See also==
*[[CWCProtectSquad]]
*[[CWCProtectSquad]]
*[[Guard Dogs]]
*[[Guard Dogs]]
*[[The Knights of CWC]] - A group that [[The WCT]] had created following getting doxed by Naught.
*[[The Miscreants]] - Essentially the inverse of the Watchmen
*[[The Miscreants]] - Essentially the inverse of the Watchmen
*[[Nightvee & the Warriors For Andromeda]], a [[TSSSF]] pack featuring some Watchmen
*[[Nightvee & the Warriors For Andromeda]], a [[TSSSF]] pack featuring some Watchmen
*[[Watchmen Leaks]]
*[[Watchmen Chats]]
*[[Watchmen infighting drama]]


==Notes==
==Notes==

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For the sake of clarity, the term "Watchmen" will strictly refer to any of the active members from The Place server, as the name was created after the group was discovered, and several iterations of the group, all with different leaderships, names, and rules, came about, both before and after the name was made.
“ You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe. ”
Naught, one of the Watchmen, to Chris.[1]
“ Something going further wrong in the group once again? ”
Chris, showing awareness of the group's tendency for internal drama.[2]


Watchmen
Information
Name Watchmen
Also known as Watchdogs
Saga Jacob, Secret Shipfic, Watchmen, Crystalgate, Lainchu, Everfree, Incest

The Watchmen (sometimes mistakenly refered to as "the Watchdogs") were a clique of fanatical enablers whose members served as gatekeepers and white knights for Chris. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential weens, trolls, and A-logs.[3] Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members MKRNightVee, Naught, The WCT, and XIII on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. After Chris was jailed for incest, their purpose became moot.

Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of enabling his delusions by pretending to be fellow CPU goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in magical thinking and the Dimensional Merge. Another tactic they used was in drawing fanart for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or Sonichu forms; the art was usually drawn by either MKRNightVee or AquaDiamond8. They have also made use of the OC Lainchu, played by at least four members of the group.

As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late 2019 onwards, such as attempting to dismantle Jacob Sockness’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance Discord server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.[4] Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including chatting with them on Google Hangouts and over Discord. The Watchmen were also behind the Discord leaks in August 2020, and the Discord Q&As.

The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on August 2020 by Klop, as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.[5] However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how The Miscreants presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, Metal Gear. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade CPU Goddesses.

Origins

Christian Weston Manhattan

What eventually became the Watchmen can be tied back to Chris's interactions with Meghan Kathleen Ringo, more commonly known as MKRNightVee or MKR. MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.[6] Owls tried to coach MKR[6] and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.[7]

After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to manipulate Chris's beliefs away from the Dimensional Merge through telling him that the CPU goddesses had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.[6]

“ time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea. ”
Owls[7]

According to Naught, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and Marvin of the Guard Dogs group (the latter also being gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Naught claimed that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.[8]

Reveal

The Watchmen group revealed its presence in August 2020. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, Chris's Last Will and Testament, which he decided to share with the Watchman member Naught.[9] Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the Official CWCki Server and leaked a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).[10]

The Players

Members

Main article: Watchmen members

Untrusted Guests

See also: Jacob Sockness, Praetor, Isabella Loretta Janke, and Fiona
The WCT discusses in the Second Layer about allowing Bella into the Knights of CWC server.

The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as Jacob Sockness and Praetor in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.

The Knights had taken a page from this, and also hosted "untrusted guests", such as Bella and Fiona in their Discord server, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Knights could discuss them in private.

Due to their shared involvement in Christory, most especially with regards to the Incest Call, their planned involvement with Everfree Northwest, and the speculation about them that followed afterwards, two particular "untrusted guests", Bella and Fiona, are referred to as "The Untrusted Guests", to refer to them as a duo.

Behavior

Toxic trio

The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members Naught, Kyle, and MKRNightVee.[11]

Rationalizations for Enabling

Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.

In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".[12]

Interactions with others

Ben Saint

Ben Saint is an enabler who exploited Chris's infamy to boost his own webcomic series by inserting Chris's Night Star OC, which led to conflict with Chris.

On 23 September 2019, Watchmen members raided a Twitch stream of Ben's to call him out.[13]

Dillin Thomas

On 24 January 2020, Dillin Thomas uploaded a recording of Watchmen members harassing him on Discord.


ຮṎṈḭᏨ ḭṈຮᾀṈḭtẙ The Followers Of Chris Chan Reach Out To Me
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TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos

Joseph Draft

Joseph Draft planned a documentary project titled Chris Chan VS. The Internet. He made arrangements and filmed footage with Chris before the documentary was cancelled. According to Naught, Draft destroyed the drive with the footage over stress from Megan changing her mind about being included and other YouTubers trying to monetize it,[14] and that Naught had "a 4 hour conversation" with Draft in which he got him "to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet."[15]

Midnight Moonflower

See also: Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes

Midnight Moonflower is a former friend of Chris who met him at a BronyCon. The Watchmen raided her Discord server to intimidate its members over Chris being a member of the server.[16][17]

Praetor

Main articles: Praetor-Watchmen Conflicts and Taser

Praetor is a group of carpetbaggers that first interacted with Chris as late as 22 September 2020. After Chris talked with the Watchmen about a "lore bible" that the group was collaborating with him on, as well as a sermon he planned to make about the Dimensional Merge after having a dream about a golden disc, they began to become suspicious of the group. They briefly talked about this with the Praetor Discord account, which was run by Caden Peck, the CEO of the company.

The sermon, combined with other related incidents, had made the Watchmen view Praetor as an enemy, especially after Chris had mentioned wanting to use a taser to shock his Gate Crystal, something which prompted the members to confront Caden. After Chris confronted the Watchmen about their approach towards the group, some of the members viewed this as a sign that Praetor had their grasp on him and that they still needed to pry him away.

Bella

The WCT hosted the Regarding Chris chats, where he and a few minor Watchmen had interviewed Bella in order to get an understanding of the Incest Call leaks.

Fiona

The Watchman Val had face doxed Fiona, and leaked her YouTube account onto the CWCki Discord server, causing him to get banned. [18] Fiona was also one of the people interviewed by the Watchmen in the Regarding Chris group chat after the Incest Call was leaked.

The American Hedgehog

Hurtful's Kiwi Farms profile picture
“ I was a lurker in the The Place and Knights Watchmen servers but not actively. I’d generally peer in when Chris posted in the 1st layer which was easy to tell because he’d @ everyone. Sometimes I’d look at the 2nd hidden layer to see what they were discussing, and most of it seemed boring to me - commentary about CWC Twitter updates, his weens, personal talk, off-topic posting, etc. ”
Hurtful Truth Level on his observations of The Place server.[19]

The American Hedgehog, also known as Hurtful Truth Level, is a Kiwi Farms moderator, and a jerkop and bureaucrat for the CWCki. He was also a member of The Place after being invited in August 2020, and is responsible for leaking content from the server from both the First and Second Layer, and making it accessible as of March 2025. He also joined the Knights of CWC server after being invited by WCT. Despite Anaxis' claims that he is "pretty strictly an observer in the purest sense",[20] Hurtful has conversed directly with Chris on at least two occasions.[21][22]

Discord

Main article: The Place

The Watchmen's primary platform for reaching out to Chris and people that they suspected as being weens was Discord.

Server Structure

Watchmen server The Place. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "2nd Layer".
Watchmen server The Knights of CWC. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "Private".

Both The Place and The Knights of CWC Discord servers were structured to have two layers of channels. The Watchmen assigned roles to server members to allow them to view certain layers.

The First Layer included a General channel for Chris to chat in. Chris and the Watchmen's Untrusted Guests could view and post only in the First Layer.

The Second Layer included a channel for discussion of Chris. The layer was hidden from Chris and Untrusted Guests to enable the Watchmen to hold discussions.

See also

Notes


References

  1. ↑ CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)
  2. ↑ WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place
  3. ↑ Orbiter general thread (archived). Kiwi Farms.
  4. ↑ Naught#History
  5. ↑ Talk:Watchmen#Title
  6. ↑ Jump up to: 6.0 6.1 6.2 The Sons of the Miscreants
  7. ↑ Jump up to: 7.0 7.1 Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for refs named owlsaccount
  8. ↑ Naught#Follow-up on Origins
  9. ↑ Naught DMs
  10. ↑ Official CWCki Server
  11. ↑ MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place
  12. ↑ The Place chats (March 2021)
  13. ↑ https://www.twitch.tv/saintcomix/video/485302712?filter=highlights&sort=time
  14. ↑ Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet
  15. ↑ Naught#History
  16. ↑ Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid
  17. ↑ Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid, Part 2
  18. ↑ The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Discussing Snoo's Involvement, Chris is Served an EPO
  19. ↑ User:Hurtful Truth Level/Statement#Why I haven't been around much
  20. ↑ User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#Hurtful Truth Level
  21. ↑ The Place chats (September 2020)#High Heart Rate
  22. ↑ The Place chats (December 2020)#Christmas and Merge Talk
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The Players

Organizations: The Place • Official CWCki Server
People: Chris • Watchmen members (Naught • Kyle • MKRNightVee • The WCT • Anaxis • Klop • Owls) • Targets (Midnight Moonflower • Ben Saint • Carrie Krueger • Opuscon789 • James Lewis Martin • Larry Vaughn • Praetor)

The Games
Watchmen Chats: General • Solo Members (Kyle • MKRNightVee • Naught • The WCT)
Naught: Kyle MKRNightVee: The WCT: Other:
Coinciding Sagas
Jacob, Arbitarch, Secret Shipfic, Lainchu, Crystalgate, Warhol, Everfree


v • d • e  
Delusions and enablers
Fantasy World
Cult of the Idea Guys
Fantasy-induced events
People appropriated by Chris as 'OCs'
    People

v • d • e  
Family
Immediate
family
Pets
Other

v • d • e  
Acquaintances
Hobbies
Desired acquaintanceships
Collaborators
(creators Chris promoted)
Women
(cut ties with Chris)
Gal-pals
Staff
Defense lawyers
Prostitutes

v • d • e  
Enablers
White knights
Fans

v • d • e  
Christubers and Interviewers
Christubers
Interviewers

v • d • e  
Trolls
Fantasy enablers
Catfishers
(Internet/phone only)
Catfishers
(met with Chris)
Catherine • Emily • Faeryn • Hanna • Kacey
Trolls
(internet-only)
Trolls
(internet-only,
impersonating celebrities)
Trolls (met with Chris)
Allies
A-logs/weens

v • d • e  
Perceived enemies
Staff
Jerkops
Manajerks
Other

v • d • e  
Imaginary/Inanimate
Imaginary friends
Inanimate objects

v • d • e  
Media personalities
In media
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