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The '''Watchmen''' (sometimes mistakenly refered to as '''"the Watchdogs"''') were a clique of fanatical [[enablers]] whose members served as [[gatekeepers]] and [[white knights]] for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential [[weens]], [[trolls]], and [[A-Log|A-logs]].<ref name=OwlsFeud>{{Cite farms|thread=75256|wayback=20211102022529|title= Orbiter general thread}}</ref> Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members [[MKRNightVee]], [[Naught]], [[The WCT]], and [[XIII]] on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. With Chris currently jailed for [[Affair with Mother|incest]], their purpose has become moot.
The '''Watchmen''' (sometimes mistakenly refered to as '''"the Watchdogs"''') were a clique of fanatical [[enablers]] whose members served as [[gatekeepers]] and [[white knights]] for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential [[weens]], [[trolls]], and [[A-Log|A-logs]].<ref name=OwlsFeud>{{Cite farms|thread=75256|wayback=20211102022529|title= Orbiter general thread}}</ref> Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members [[MKRNightVee]], [[Naught]], [[The WCT]], and [[XIII]] on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. After Chris was jailed for [[Affair with Mother|incest]], their purpose became moot.


Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Another tactic they used was in drawing [[fanart]] for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or [[Sonichu_(species)|Sonichu]] forms; the art was usually drawn by either [[MKRNightVee]] or [[AquaDiamond8]]. They have also made use of the OC [[Lainchu]], played by at least four members of the group.
Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Another tactic they used was in drawing [[fanart]] for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or [[Sonichu_(species)|Sonichu]] forms; the art was usually drawn by either [[MKRNightVee]] or [[AquaDiamond8]]. They have also made use of the OC [[Lainchu]], played by at least four members of the group.
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As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late [[2019]] onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance [[Discord]] server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref> Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were also behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]], and the [[Discord Q&A]]s.
As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late [[2019]] onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance [[Discord]] server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref> Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were also behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]], and the [[Discord Q&A]]s.


The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on [[August 2020]] by [[Klop]], as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.<ref>[[Talk:Watchmen#Title]]</ref> However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]''. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade [[CPU Goddesses]].
The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on [[August 2020]] by [[Klop]], as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.<ref>[[Talk:Watchmen#Title]]</ref> However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, ''[[Metal Gear]]''. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade [[CPU Goddesses]].


==Origins==
==Origins==
[[File:ChrisDoctorManhattan.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Christian Weston Manhattan]]  
[[File:ChrisDoctorManhattan.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Christian Weston Manhattan]]  
What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server, a trolling group. There, Owls met Meghan (aka [[MKRNightVee]] or MKR), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").<ref name=owlsaccount>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/page-1257#post-7343340 (Archive: https://archive.fo/06IZx)</ref>
What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server, a trolling group. There, Owls met Meghan (aka [[MKRNightVee]] or MKR), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").<ref name=owlsaccount>[[Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)#Owls's Account]]</ref>


MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=cap2>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/</ref> Owls tried to coach MKR<ref name=cpuowls>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl5-png.644835/</ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>
MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=sonsmiscreants>[[The Sons of the Miscreants]]</ref> Owls tried to coach MKR<ref name=sonsmiscreants></ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>


After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=cpuowls></ref>  
After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=sonsmiscreants></ref>  


{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}
{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}
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==Reveal==
==Reveal==
The Watchmen group revealed its presence in [[August 2020]]. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, [[Chris's Last Will and Testament]], which he decided to share with the Watchman member [[Naught]].<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref> Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the [[Official CWCki Server]] and leaked [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group]] over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).<ref>[[Discord#Official CWCki Server]]</ref>
The Watchmen group revealed its presence in [[August 2020]]. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, [[Chris's Last Will and Testament]], which he decided to share with the Watchman member [[Naught]].<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref> Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the [[Official CWCki Server]] and leaked [[:Category:2020 Discord leaks|a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group]] over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).<ref>[[Official CWCki Server]]</ref>


==The Players==
==The Players==
 
===Members===
===Naught===
{{main|Watchmen members}}
{{Main|Naught}}
[[File:Naught.jpg|150px|thumb|left|Naught's Kiwi Farms profile picture]]
'''Naught''', also known as '''Bismuth''' and '''CPU Bismuth Heart''' to Chris was the self-proclaimed "leader" of the group, taking over the group after Owls left.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> He monitored and doxed potential weens or outside enablers. Naught also kept records on orders for Chris's [[TSSSF]] cards and his [[Sonichu]] comics. Naught also showed Chris various anime and manga, much of which Chris had implemented into his fantasies. Naught has also implied himself to have shown Chris the inspiration for the Lainchu character, ''Serial Experiments Lain''.  In June 2021, Naught posted fellow Watchmen The WCT's dox onto [[Kiwi Farms]] in retaliation for WCT declining to share his Kiwi Farms account with him after Naught had been banned from the site following the use of sockpuppets after told to stop from Null,<ref name=naughtedit>[https://archive.ph/wip/9215A An actual CWCki edit from Naught/Bismuth, admitting to have doxxed Sean.]</ref> which lead to WCT ousting Naught and two others who had sided with Naught from the group.
 
===The WCT===
[[File:SeanWalker.png|thumb|200px|The WCT IRL]]
 
{{Main|The WCT}}
 
'''Sean Walker''', also known as '''The WCT''' and '''CPU Onyx Heart''', and primarily known in the context of the Watchmen as '''Conner''' or '''neko''', had created [[Watchmen#The Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]], "taking over" after a conflict with Naught. He archived calls involving Chris and occasionally gave interviews to observers. In November 2020, Chris took an interest in mass shooter [[Randy Stair]], whose belief system regarding cartoons and alternative universes bears more than a passing relationship with Chris's, after watching a YouTube documentary on Stair produced by WCT.<ref>[[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref> In February 2021, WCT attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of [[Lainchu]] but Chris rejected his attempt. In June 2021, Naught doxed WCT for declining to share his [[Kiwi Farms]] account after Naught had been banned from the site;<ref name=naughtedit></ref> WCT responded by convincing Chris to leave the Watchmen's then-current Discord server [[The Place]].<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place]]</ref> WCT then founded The Knights of CWC, a Watchmen splinter Discord server, where eventually in July 2021 Chris invited [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]. Prior to Chris's arrest for incest, WCT reached out to Bella again asking for her side of the story, who was able to manipulate WCT into attempting to shift blame from Isabella to the [[Suitress]].
 
===MKRNightVee===
{{Main|MKRNightVee}}
[[Image:MeghanRingo.jpg|250px|thumb|MKRNightVee IRL]]
'''Meghan K. Ringo''', also known as '''MKRNightVee''', '''CPUMagentaHeart''' and '''thepixietailartist''', and sometimes referred to as '''Maker''' by Chris, appeared in early [[2019]]. She got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up Chris's phone number for her.<ref name=cap2></ref> She presented herself to Chris as being the [[CPU]] goddess of the [[Nintendo Switch]], offering him validation on his fantasies of having magic powers.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454/</ref> She has stated that her goal isn't to feed into Chris's delusions so much as to offer advice and help.<ref>[[:File:MKR motives.png]]</ref> Chris offered her several of his possessions in his [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|Last Will and Testament]].
 
===Kyle===
{{main|Kyle}}
[[File:Kylechu sonichu.jpg|Kyle in [[TSSSF]] form.|thumb|left|200px]]
An admin in The Place Discord server, '''Kyle''', also known as '''Nova'''<ref>[[:File:ThePlace1stLayer2Feb21-Piezoelectricity12.png]]</ref> and '''Spade''', was present in the [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|Google Hangout chats]]. Kyle was also the inspiration for Chris's [[:File:KylechuOC.jpg|Kylechu]] OC. Kyle has mentioned working at a suicide hotline, though he has mentioned that at least one caller had gone through with taking their own lives,<ref name=kylesuicide>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-17264</ref> something which was revealed in Discord leaks, both audio and text.
 
Chris had mixed feelings on Kyle. In a 26 [[June 2021]] text to [[Null]], Chris said that Kyle "talks soo damn much, boasting his smart-talk, interrogating my intentions and present mentalities. Damn, he's seriously tiring."<ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris texts Null]]</ref> Kyle was one of the first people that Chris told of his plans to shock his crystals with electricity, citing a click-baity article about using the phenomenon to open up portals and believing that Kyle could help explain piezoelectricity to him. Kyle attempted to reason with Chris regarding this. When Kyle questioned Chris's findings, Chris was flustered.
 
===Owls===
{{Main|Owls}}
[[File:Ryan Owls.png|thumb|150px|Owls IRL.]]
'''Ryan Winger''', more commonly referred to as '''Owls''', in his interactions with the Watchmen, also known as '''GhostBird50''' on the [[Kiwi Farms]],<ref name=owlsaccount></ref> and as '''CpuTurquoiseHeart''' to Chris,<ref name=cpuowls></ref> <ref name=naughtclarify></ref> initially advised MKRNightVee in interacting with Chris and founded the Watchmen's Discord server. Owls also acted as a liaison between Watchmen and [[Guard Dogs]] member Marvin, though fellow Watchman Naught alleged that he hadn't been reporting back to Marvin.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> Owls eventually left the group, stating he wanted no more part in Chris's situation or in Internet drama,<ref>[[:File:Ghostbird_kiwistatus.png]]</ref> and was succeeded by Naught. This seems to have come when he got involved in a feud<ref name=OwlsFeud></ref> with several other obscure Chris orbiters.
 
===The "Lainchu" role===
{{Main|Lainchu}}
[[File:LainchuT&H.jpg|thumb|left|150px]]
'''Lainchu''', also known as '''Lainchu the Chronicler''', is an OC created by Chris, whose purpose is to document Chris's activities (and unofficially, to provide Christorians with first hand information), based on the protagonist of the [[anime]], ''[[Wikipedia:Serial Experiments Lain|Serial Experiments Lain]]'', in which a teenage girl finds herself engaging with a virtual world network, reminiscent of the [[internet]].
 
When discussed with Chris, Lainchu was typically treated as a separate entity from other people present in Watchmen servers.
 
===Minor Watchmen===
{{Main|Minor Watchmen Members}}
 
The group consisted of many additional people, some of whom played a role in the Watchmen Saga.


===Untrusted Guests===
===Untrusted Guests===
{{See also|Jacob Sockness|Praetor|Isabella Loretta Janke|The Suitress}}
{{See also|Jacob Sockness|Praetor|Isabella Loretta Janke|Fiona}}
[[File:Discussioneverfree2.png|thumb|200px|[[The WCT]] discusses in the Second Layer about allowing [[Bella]] into the [[Knights of CWC]] server.]]
[[File:Discussioneverfree2.png|thumb|200px|[[The WCT]] discusses in the Second Layer about allowing [[Bella]] into the [[Knights of CWC]] server.]]
The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as [[Jacob Sockness]], [[Praetor]], [[the Suitress]], and [[Bella]] in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.
The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as [[Jacob Sockness]], [[Praetor]], [[Fiona]], and [[Bella]] in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.


Sockness and Praetor were untrusted guests in [[The Place]], and Bella and [[the Suitress]] were untrusted guests in [[Knights of CWC]].
Sockness and Praetor were untrusted guests in [[The Place]], and Bella and [[Fiona]] were untrusted guests in [[Knights of CWC]].


==Behavior==
==Behavior==
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The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members [[Naught]], [[Kyle]], and [[MKRNightVee]].<ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref>
The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members [[Naught]], [[Kyle]], and [[MKRNightVee]].<ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref>
===Infighting===
The Watchmen group was prone to infighting.
On 28 [[June 2021]], in the wake of more infighting between [[Naught]] and [[The WCT]], which stemmed from Naught posting The WCT's dox for declining to share his Kiwi Farms account,<ref name=naughtedit></ref> the former Watchmen member [[Minor Watchmen Members#Spunky|Spunky]] wrote an account on the website lolcow.org alleging that Naught had used her Kiwi Farms account for his own purposes and that she was consistently belittled by both Naught and [[MKR]] in their server.<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-16378 (archive: https://archive.ph/sHJsm)</ref>


===Rationalizations for Enabling===
===Rationalizations for Enabling===
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Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.
Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.


In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".<ref>[[March 2021 Watchmen leaks]]</ref>
In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".<ref>[[The Place chats (March 2021)]]</ref>


==Interactions with others==
==Interactions with others==
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===Joseph Draft===
===Joseph Draft===
Joseph Draft planned a documentary project titled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]''. He made arrangements and filmed footage with Chris before the documentary was cancelled. According to [[Naught]], Draft destroyed the drive with the footage over stress from [[Megan]] changing her mind about being included and other YouTubers trying to monetize it,<ref>[[Undated Discord leaks#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref> and that Naught had "a 4 hour conversation" with Draft in which he got him "to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet."<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref>
Joseph Draft planned a documentary project titled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]''. He made arrangements and filmed footage with Chris before the documentary was cancelled. According to [[Naught]], Draft destroyed the drive with the footage over stress from [[Megan]] changing her mind about being included and other YouTubers trying to monetize it,<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref> and that Naught had "a 4 hour conversation" with Draft in which he got him "to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet."<ref>[[Naught#History]]</ref>


===Midnight Moonflower===
===Midnight Moonflower===
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Talks between the two groups quickly disintegrated.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]</ref> Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[MKR]] took to spreading rumors about Praetor, each using out-of-context snippets from the discussions.
Talks between the two groups quickly disintegrated.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]</ref> Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[MKR]] took to spreading rumors about Praetor, each using out-of-context snippets from the discussions.


Naught made a [[Kiwi Farms]] post in which he posted a clip from the [[Taser Discussion]] voice chat.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/page-8#post-8301396 Archive (https://archive.fo/YVFf8)</ref> In the clip, Watchmen member [[Val]] states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. [[Praetor]] member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about ''why'' it's a bad idea."
Naught made a [[Kiwi Farms]] post in which he posted a clip from the [[Taser Discussion]] voice chat.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discusion clip]]</ref> In the clip, Watchmen member [[Val]] states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. [[Praetor]] member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about ''why'' it's a bad idea."


In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected.
In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected.
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====The Knights of CWC====
====The Knights of CWC====
[[File:Watchmen Discord The Knights of CWC.png|thumb|200px|left|The Knights of CWC server.]]
{{main|The Knights of CWC}}
 
'''The Knights of CWC''' was the server Chris was in from 25 June 2021<ref>[[:File:Knights of CWC join.png]]</ref> until his August 2021 arrest for incest. It was founded by [[The WCT]] following his fallout with [[Naught]], Kyle and MKR over Naught's doxing of WCT leading to bad blood between them. WCT was unsure of calling his group by the Watchmen moniker. He also stated he wanted the group be kept secret as the earlier iteration of the Watchmen once had been.<ref>[[:File:WCT on Knights of CWC server.png]]</ref> He modeled the structure of the Knights server after The Place.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#The Suitress enters Knights of CWC server]]</ref>
 
The Knights aimed to take a less aggressive approach than The Place when it came to other [[enablers]],<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Bella enters Knights of CWC server]]</ref> planning only to intervene in cases of malicious intentions.<ref name=intentions>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Intentions]]</ref><ref>[[Helena-WCT DMs]]</ref> such as [[Jacob Sockness]]'s plot to attend [[Everfree Northwest]] in disguise to meet with Chris.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Countering Sockness]]</ref>


====Regarding Chris====
====Regarding Chris====
{{Main|Regarding Chris chats}}
{{Main|Regarding Chris chats}}
'''Regarding Chris''' was a group chat created by [[The WCT]] with some of the other Watchmen members from The Knights of CWC server on 30 July 2021. Its purpose was to question [[Bella]] about her role in the [[Incest Call]] leak, since she had been named by [[Null]] as a person involved. However, the move backfired as during the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing the [[Suitress]] for being the voice in the call{{refn|group="note"|Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call<ref>{{Cite farms|title=<nowiki>[THREAD RETIRED]</nowiki> Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people|thread=96787|post=9632321}}</ref>}} and alleging her [[fabricated BDSM texts]] to be legitimate and goading WCT to disseminating the material and naming the Suitress as his source.
'''Regarding Chris''' was a group chat created by [[The WCT]] with some of the other Watchmen members from The Knights of CWC server on 30 July 2021. Its purpose was to question [[Bella]] about her role in the [[Incest Call]] leak, since she had been named by [[Null]] as a person involved. However, the move backfired as during the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing Fiona for being the voice in the call{{refn|group="note"|Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call<ref>{{Cite farms|title=<nowiki>[THREAD RETIRED]</nowiki> Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people|thread=96787|post=9632321}}</ref>}} and alleging her [[fabricated BDSM texts]] to be legitimate and goading WCT to disseminating the material and naming Fiona as his source.


The full chat was later leaked.<ref name=regarding>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms]</ref>
The full chat was later leaked.<ref name=regarding>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms]</ref>
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*[[The Miscreants]] - Essentially the inverse of the Watchmen
*[[The Miscreants]] - Essentially the inverse of the Watchmen
*[[Nightvee & the Warriors For Andromeda]], a [[TSSSF]] pack featuring some Watchmen
*[[Nightvee & the Warriors For Andromeda]], a [[TSSSF]] pack featuring some Watchmen
*[[Watchmen Leaks]]
*[[Watchmen Chats]]


==Notes==
==Notes==

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The "Watchmen" were not an organization like the CWCProtectSquad or the Guard Dogs. Rather, like how the "Patriots" was the name given to a clique of trolls, "Watchmen" was the name given to a group of Chris enablers and white knights that had befriended one another, and run various Discord servers, by one of its members. The WCT, one of its members, was also considering dropping the name when he created the Knights of CWC
“ You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe. ”
Naught, one of the Watchmen, to Chris.[1]
“ Something going further wrong in the group once again? ”
Chris, showing awareness of the group's tendency for internal drama.[2]


Watchmen
Information
Name Watchmen
Also known as Watchdogs
Saga Watchmen

The Watchmen (sometimes mistakenly refered to as "the Watchdogs") were a clique of fanatical enablers whose members served as gatekeepers and white knights for Chris. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. In practice, however, the clique was highly aggressive towards outsiders coming into contact with Chris whether they demonstrated malice or not. Watchmen members tracked and collected information on anyone involved with - or attempting to get involved with - Chris, and had little hesitation in regards to doxing any potential weens, trolls, and A-logs.[3] Hostilities were occasionally shown in the form of feuds, with rumors and disinformation spread by members MKRNightVee, Naught, The WCT, and XIII on their perceived enemies, or raids by various Watchmen members. Infighting ran rampant, with the group splintering into a few iterations over internal conflicts. After Chris was jailed for incest, their purpose became moot.

Their approach was rather controversial, as they gained Chris's favor by means of enabling his delusions by pretending to be fellow CPU goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in magical thinking and the Dimensional Merge. Another tactic they used was in drawing fanart for him, typically for fantasy immersion - such art features Chris or Watchmen members in CPU or Sonichu forms; the art was usually drawn by either MKRNightVee or AquaDiamond8. They have also made use of the OC Lainchu, played by at least four members of the group.

As a faction, the Watchmen were involved in several events over the course of late 2019 onwards, such as attempting to dismantle Jacob Sockness’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance Discord server from Naught's allegation that the server was being used to gather content.[4] Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including chatting with them on Google Hangouts and over Discord. The Watchmen were also behind the Discord leaks in August 2020, and the Discord Q&As.

The group existed in various forms from 2019-2021 and was given its current name on August 2020 by Klop, as a reference to the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins.[5] However, the Watchmen themselves did not model their online personas after characters from the DC franchise, in contrast to how The Miscreants presented themselves as a shadowy cabal like the Patriots from their inspiration, Metal Gear. Rather, many of its members modeled their personas after fanmade CPU Goddesses.

Origins

Christian Weston Manhattan

What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server, a trolling group. There, Owls met Meghan (aka MKRNightVee or MKR), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").[6]

MKR got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.[7] Owls tried to coach MKR[7] and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.[6]

After MKR had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to manipulate Chris's beliefs away from the Dimensional Merge through telling him that the CPU goddesses had relocated to Earth. MKR recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.[7]

“ time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea. ”
Owls[6]

According to Naught, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and Marvin of the Guard Dogs group (the latter also being gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Naught claimed that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.[8]

Reveal

The Watchmen group revealed its presence in August 2020. The reveal was seemingly spurred by a video Chris secretly produced on 6 August, Chris's Last Will and Testament, which he decided to share with the Watchman member Naught.[9] Concerned over the contents of the video, a CWCki account was made by Naught and the video leaked to the public. Days later, on 10 August, Naught entered the Official CWCki Server and leaked a large amount of material Chris had shared with the group over the past year. He then invited Chris into the server to take fan questions (though moderators decided to remove Chris from the server four days later).[10]

The Players

Members

Main article: Watchmen members

Untrusted Guests

See also: Jacob Sockness, Praetor, Isabella Loretta Janke, and Fiona
The WCT discusses in the Second Layer about allowing Bella into the Knights of CWC server.

The Watchmen hosted various untrusted guests such as Jacob Sockness, Praetor, Fiona, and Bella in their Discord servers, assigning them to the First Layer of channels which Chris and themselves could view, and blocking them from viewing the Second Layer, where the Watchmen could discuss them in private.

Sockness and Praetor were untrusted guests in The Place, and Bella and Fiona were untrusted guests in Knights of CWC.

Behavior

Toxic trio

The "toxic trio" is Chris's term for former members Naught, Kyle, and MKRNightVee.[11]

Rationalizations for Enabling

Some Watchmen have come to rationalize why they enable Chris.

In a 9 March 2021 Discord Chat; MKR, Kyle, and an unknown Watchman were discussing that they needed to enable Chris with his delusions for his own safety, as they believed that "he wouldn't last long".[12]

Interactions with others

Ben Saint

Ben Saint is an enabler who exploited Chris's infamy to boost his own webcomic series by inserting Chris's Night Star OC, which led to conflict with Chris.

On 23 September 2019, Watchmen members raided a Twitch stream of Ben's to call him out.[13]

Dillin Thomas

On 24 January 2020, Dillin Thomas uploaded a recording of Watchmen members harassing him on Discord.


ຮṎṈḭᏨ ḭṈຮᾀṈḭtẙ The Followers Of Chris Chan Reach Out To Me
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TRUE and HONEST Sonichu Fan Videos

Joseph Draft

Joseph Draft planned a documentary project titled Chris Chan VS. The Internet. He made arrangements and filmed footage with Chris before the documentary was cancelled. According to Naught, Draft destroyed the drive with the footage over stress from Megan changing her mind about being included and other YouTubers trying to monetize it,[14] and that Naught had "a 4 hour conversation" with Draft in which he got him "to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet."[15]

Midnight Moonflower

See also: Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes

Midnight Moonflower is a former friend of Chris who met him at a BronyCon. The Watchmen raided her Discord server to intimidate its members over Chris being a member of the server.[16][17]

Praetor

Praetor is a group of enablers appearing in the fall of 2020 who produced and sold Sonichu-themed products with Chris's permission on Etsy and gave him a portion of the profits in exchange.

In February 2021, Chris wanted to borrow Praetor's taser in order to tase his Gate Crystal and Celestial Key quartz crystals, believing this would open an interdimensional portal and bring about the Dimensional Merge.[18] The Watchmen objected to this plan, to which Praetor member Caden claimed they would supervise Chris and that he would not be at risk.[19]

Talks between the two groups quickly disintegrated.[20] Watchmen members Naught and MKR took to spreading rumors about Praetor, each using out-of-context snippets from the discussions.

Naught made a Kiwi Farms post in which he posted a clip from the Taser Discussion voice chat.[21] In the clip, Watchmen member Val states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. Praetor member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea."

In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected.

MKR posted on Twitter to spread a rumor that Praetor wanted to get Chris to use a stun gun on himself. She gave no proof of the allegation, instead posting an out-of-context screenshot[22] from Watchmen-Praetor talks.[23]

The Christuber GiBi believed the Watchmen's spin, creating a video in which he erroneously attributed the members in Naught's clip to Praetor - including the Watchmen Val - as well as reading from MKR's tweet.[24] Chris viewed the video and claimed the taser to have been his own idea, defending Praetor.[25]

Later, Chris criticized The Place members for their aggressive behavior, though Watchmen members Kyle and MKR immediately resumed hostile remarks towards Praetor, leaving Chris disappointed.[26]

Bella

The WCT hosted the Regarding Chris chats, where he and a few minor Watchmen had interviewed Bella in order to get an understanding of the Incest Call leaks.

Discord

The Watchmen's primary platform for reaching out to Chris and people that they suspected as being weens was Discord.

Server Structure

Watchmen server The Place. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "2nd Layer".
Watchmen server The Knights of CWC. Second layer channels are visible in this image under "Private".

Both The Place and The Knights of CWC Discord servers were structured to have two layers of channels. The Watchmen assigned roles to server members to allow them to view certain layers.

The First Layer included a General channel for Chris to chat in. Chris and the Watchmen's Untrusted Guests could view and post only in the First Layer.

The Second Layer included a channel for discussion of Chris. The layer was hidden from Chris and Untrusted Guests to enable the Watchmen to hold discussions.

Discord servers

Below are a list of several of the Discord Servers that were created for the iniative of the Watchmen.

Arbitarch CWC Alliance

This was from before the Watchmen had fully come out to the public. The server was eventually shut down.

The Place

Main article: The Place

The Knights of CWC

Main article: The Knights of CWC

Regarding Chris

Main article: Regarding Chris chats

Regarding Chris was a group chat created by The WCT with some of the other Watchmen members from The Knights of CWC server on 30 July 2021. Its purpose was to question Bella about her role in the Incest Call leak, since she had been named by Null as a person involved. However, the move backfired as during the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing Fiona for being the voice in the call[note 1] and alleging her fabricated BDSM texts to be legitimate and goading WCT to disseminating the material and naming Fiona as his source.

The full chat was later leaked.[28]

See also

Notes

  1. ↑ Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call[27]

References

  1. ↑ CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)
  2. ↑ WCT DMs#Asking Chris to leave The Place
  3. ↑ Orbiter general thread (archived). Kiwi Farms.
  4. ↑ Naught#History
  5. ↑ Talk:Watchmen#Title
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 Kiwi Farms posts (GhostBird50)#Owls's Account
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 7.2 The Sons of the Miscreants
  8. ↑ Naught#Follow-up on Origins
  9. ↑ Naught DMs
  10. ↑ Official CWCki Server
  11. ↑ MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place
  12. ↑ The Place chats (March 2021)
  13. ↑ https://www.twitch.tv/saintcomix/video/485302712?filter=highlights&sort=time
  14. ↑ Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet
  15. ↑ Naught#History
  16. ↑ Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid
  17. ↑ Midnight's Nightlings and Starettes#Watchmen Raid, Part 2
  18. ↑ Naught DMs#Chris wants to activate the Merge by playing with taser
  19. ↑ Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser
  20. ↑ The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations
  21. ↑ Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discusion clip
  22. ↑ https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1358939937463169024 (archive: https://archive.ph/PYMQh)
  23. ↑ The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#8 February 2021, part 2
  24. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HfueLWzjY&lc=Ugz1EEI4ON6dhsYi1gN4AaABAg
  25. ↑ List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Chris Chan is Convinced to Taser Himself
  26. ↑ The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#13 February 2021
  27. ↑ [THREAD RETIRED] Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people (Message #9632321). Kiwi Farms.
  28. ↑ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms
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The Players

Organizations: Watchmen (The Sons of the Miscreants • Arbitarch CWC Alliance • The Place • The Knights of CWC) • Halal Server
People: Chris • Watchmen members (The WCT • MKRNightVee • Naught • Anaxis • Kyle • Owls) • Caden Peck • Jacob Sockness • Joseph Draft • Midnight Moonflower • Kai • Dillin Thomas • GiBi • Ben Saint • Larry Vaughn • Isabella Janke • Fiona

Watchmen Chats: General • Solo Members (Anaxis • AquaDiamond8 • Kyle • MKRNightVee • Naught • Spunky • The WCT)
Enabling and Delusions: Sexual Frustration: Targeted Orbiters: Handling of Incest Drama:
Coinciding Sagas
Jacob, Secret Shipfic, Praetor, Incest


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