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After plenty of sightings online and [[Post-jail sightings|offline]], Chris finally made his grand return in [[October 2023]]. Along with Chris's return, [[OfficialCWCmart]] returned as well, stocked with a plethora of new items. This included new [[Medallions|Sonichu medallions]], with brand new pictures of Chris in front of a green screen, new promotions of [[Neo Spiritual Christianity]], and [[2021 Lost Commissions|dozens upon dozens of lost commissions]] that Chris drew for the [[Everfree Northwest]] fundraiser in [[2021]] | After plenty of sightings online and [[Post-jail sightings|offline]], Chris finally made his grand return in [[October 2023]]. Along with Chris's return, [[OfficialCWCmart]] returned as well, stocked with a plethora of new items. This included new [[Medallions|Sonichu medallions]], with brand new pictures of Chris in front of a green screen, new promotions of [[Neo Spiritual Christianity]], and [[2021 Lost Commissions|dozens upon dozens of lost commissions]] that Chris drew for the [[Everfree Northwest]] fundraiser in [[2021]] | ||
Revision as of 16:11, 22 November 2023
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Note on Credibility:
Praetor has been deemed to be an unreliable narrator for the following reasons: |
Praetor LLC (sometimes referred to as "The Praetors") is a group of edgy college-aged businesspeople led by Caden Peck (born September 27, 2002), also known as tinyhorse01. They have claimed to exist for 3 years before coming in contact with Chris, working with creative types, supposedly including working in order to officiate the Republic of Molossia as an official nation. However, the truth of this is unknown, and the business is known to be incredibly unprofessional.
They came in contact with Chris to produce and sell Sonichu and CWC themed products on their Etsy store OfficialCWCmart, with Chris's permission, giving him a cut of the profits in exchange. In mid-December 2020, Praetor began offering Sonichu medallions for sale, which were produced by the group and approved of by Chris. As of 2023, they have made around $150,000 out of OfficialCWCmart.
During the Jail Saga, Chris continued communicating with them, mailing them art from jail, which they added to OfficialCWCmart. They began coming up with plans to help Chris, one of which included brainstorming a $150,000 fundraiser to buy out Barb from 14 Branchland Court. Praetor has since expanded to other products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. Chris's income split for products made by him is unknown.
Upon Chris getting released from jail, they have become even more involved, as seen in the highly edited new videos and new photos of Chris added to OfficialCWCmart. In November 2023, evidence hinting at Chris living with Caden - or at the very least using his house as a studio - emerged on Kiwi Farms
Members
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“ | In the group, Annie is very much psychically able. Owen is like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs. Cabell is also psychically inclined, but she's the artist. Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business. | ” |
Chris[2] |
Whilst Caden leads the group, and presumably does most of the heavy lifting, there are numerous other members in the group.
Annibelle Ikenberry
Annibelle "Annie" Ikenberry (annirenee) is an erocosplayer and OnlyFans camgirl. According to Chris, she is "psychically able". In a 17 February 2021 discussion with the Watchmen, Chris confessed that he had considered her for a possible relationship.[3]
Owen Sundstrom
Owen Scott Sundstrom (owen_sundstrom) is a co-founder of Praetor, according to Larry Vaughn. He was present at the Goochland Library Sermon, where he was photographed posing with Chris. He also appears to be the photographer who took the picture of Chris and Praetor at the Chinese restaurant. According to Chris, Owen is "like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs". Owen, along with Caden, suggested a link between the Mayan calendar and Chris's dream about a golden disc.[2]
Cabell
Cabell, according to Chris is 'psychically inclined, but she's the artist'. Unlike the other members of Praetor, the least is known about her. There has been speculation that Cabell was a nickname for Bella, however at the time of Chris mentioning Cabell he had not met Bella. Cabell is most likely the blonde woman featured in the picture of Praetor at a Chinese restaurant. Initially, Praetor mistagged the blonde woman on Instagram, linking a completely separate account to her.
Given that Chris has referred to Cabell as the artist, it can be assumed that she creates the medallions, as Chris has mentioned that the artist of the group was the one to create them.
Isabella Loretta Janke
- Main article: Isabella Loretta Janke
Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke, a troll most infamous for her horrid actions and revealing Chris's incestuous affair with his mother, had relations with Praetor. They commissioned her to animate Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation, an animation of Chris and the Sonichu characters, which Chris uploaded to his YouTube channel.
The Beginning
“ | I've always known about Christine. She always struck me as unique in the sense that she is probably one of the most famous people ever who has profited the least from her fame.
When I heard that she had tried to launch a store before, but been overwhelmed, I knew that there was a chance at profit. I run almost everything I do privately, so I reached out to Christine myself. |
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Caden[4] |
On 21 September 2020, a "trio of fans" came to Chris's door with a golden Sonichu medallion, crafted by "the young lady of the group, with paint that had a mixture of 24K gold in it". The "tall boys" had a business proposition for Chris, that with their mold press, they could mass produce and sell Sonichu medallions.[5] Chris accepted, deeming them as trustworthy, and noted that he had a vision earlier where an artist crafted medallions for him.
“ | They have their business based in Goochland.
And I could tell by soul-reading them that their intentions were legit, honest and true. |
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Chris[5] |
On 22 September 2020, Chris made a post on The Place Discord server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates".[5] He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.
On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the Watchmen again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC.
“ | Our new peeps are good and genuine; they’re setting up the new Etsy shop as well, and making the first wave of medallions molded from the one they made for me that was 24K gold-mix painted.
Although, Confidentially, while they do have their business connections, they do not yet have a website; I did a Google search for their name of “Praetor LLC”. But everything remains valid, and they do check in with me and talk, plus soul-sense from the lot of them. |
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Chris[6] |
On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible".[7]
On the 15th, Praetor's Discord account, run by Caden Peck, joined the The Place Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.[8]
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After being asked if they sold merch for Molossia:
On another brand named 'Praetor LLC':
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On 16 October, they arranged for Chris to give a sermon at Goochland library, where he spewed his Dimensional Merge delusions. This spiel was done in front of a large screen displaying the Praetor logo. When it was eventually released on YouTube, it started with a loud dramatic opening, commissioned from an unknown source. They also added sarcastic captions, mocking Chris. The Praetor members took photos with Chris after the sermon.
On 19 October, Praetor's presence was made known to the public, when they released multiple photos of Chris and the members of Praetor at a Chinese restaurant. One of these images included the members' Instagram handles, making it very easy for them to get doxxed.
With Instagram handles
On 13 November 2020, Chris uploaded Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation, an animation that Praetor had commissioned from Isabella Loretta Janke. After this, Bella began regularly chatting with Chris, eventually becoming rather infamous for unrelated reasons.
Etsy Shop
“ | (Editor's Note: All descriptions, titles, and product designs come directly from Chris Chan. These are hand done, and will therefore reflect the "Chris Chan Style." Expect defects, burns, and a general lapse in quality.) | ” |
Praetor's Etsy account, confirming that the products being shipped will be dogshit, even by Chris's standards |
Praetor created an Etsy shop for Chris, OfficialCWCmart, where they sell Sonichu medallions and other merchandise. As of 2023, it has accumulated more than 3000 sales. The medallions sold by them manage to look much worse than any medallions made by Chris, and are completely inconsistent in how they look.
In mid-December 2020, Praetor began offering Sonichu medallions for sale, which were produced by the group and approved of by Chris. A month later, they had made $5,900 worth of sales on their medallion product,[9] though information such as their operating costs is unknown, as is how much profit the group members had after expenses. In mid-January 2021, Chris confirmed having received nearly $400 in small cash amounts for his share.[10]
Praetor also created a Discord server, Golden Church of Sonichu, which was created for anyone who bought their Golden Medallions on their Etsy shop. The server served as another outlet for Chris to rant about his delusions. Caden often posted in there too, giving insight into Praetor's bizarre plans.
“ | -Christine has fully greenlit [REDACTED]'s video game. Please message Chris directly as soon as possible, as Christine would like to provide some direction with the game's storyline.
-The Praetor Flamethrower will be stress-tested this upcoming week at a local firing range sponsoring us. Please standby for future details. -Christine has approved the future sale of Potions blessed by her. These are to be sold for less than $17 apiece, but a fixed price has not yet been decided. We need help finding cheaply shipped glassware in bulk. As cheap as possible is best, as we are going to be selling 3-4 kinds of potions stocked at at least 12 each. Bottles must be at very least 4oz, at most 16oz. -Christine's Golden Medallions have already sold out. Expect more members soon. -Test footage for [REDACTED] has been filmed in order to see if she can cgi a Sonichu next to Chris, allowing us to feature a Sonichu in the upcoming Chris Chan Movie. Please complete this as soon as possible, and we will kiss you on the mouth. |
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Caden[11] |
Upon hacking into Isabella Loretta Janke's account, a short clip showing the behind-the-scenes process of the Chris Chan Movie was leaked. It shows Chris posing as a Praetor member commentates, telling him specific poses to do, while he's supposedly standing next to Rosechu, who would be added in post as a CGI character.
Taser Controversy
“ | we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea. | ” |
Caden, one of Praetor's members, trying to talk Chris out of tazing himself.[12] |
On 15 November 2020, Praetor posted a screenshot of an online shopping service's shopping cart - in the cart was a Pikachu mask and a VIPERTEK VTS-989 560 BV stun gun. Praetor stated:
“ | As Praetor, we always work hard to produce the best videos we can. Good works are in progress! | ” |
Praetor on an Instagram post featuring a Pikachu mask and stun gun.[13] |
Praetor later claimed this was for promotion of sales of autographed tasers.
In February 2021, Chris stated that he wanted to borrow one of Praetor's tasers to stun his Gate Crystal and Celestial Key quartz crystals in an attempt to activate the Dimensional Merge.[14]
The Watchmen confronted Caden Peck about this, saying that it was dangerous for Praetor to be allowing Chris to use it and that Chris could hurt himself. In response, Caden insisted that Chris would be safe and that the group would act with safety in mind, that he would not permanently possess one of their tasers, and that the version Chris would use is a lower-powered one than the items Praetor would be selling.[14] Eventually, both parties began insulting each other on Discord. They eventually agreed to have a call about the issue, in which the Watchmen berate Caden about the issue.
Near the end of the call, Watchmen member Val jokingly asked if Praetor could get Chris to tase himself on video, to which Chris responded saying that he'd be willing too. Everyone is shocked by this, and Caden attempts to dissuade Chris from tazing himself.
Watchmen member Naught then released that portion of the audio clip, but twisted the context to make it seem like Praetor wanted Chris to tase himself. This rumor was perpetuated by other Watchmen members, and eventually reached GiBi, who made a video claiming it was fact.
Naught then doxxed Caden on the forum, which led to Larry Vaughn making multiple posts sharing his experiences with Praetor. While many were skeptical of Vaughn's claims, due to him arguably being an unreliable narrator, his DMs with Chris reveal that he did in fact have a phone call with Caden, meaning his post is most likely true[15].
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In 2022, Praetor began selling tasers previously autographed by Chris on their Etsy shop, supposedly for the purpose of simulating "zapping to the extreme" for buyers. Etsy quickly removed this listing. Eventually, Praetor created a listing titled 'The Secret Listing', a listing that had no information on what it was. It was later revealed through emails that The Secret Listing was a taser, with the fact hidden in order to bypass Etsy guidelines.
One of the people who bought the taser would mail it to the channel SuperMega, where they would unbox it on video[19].
Jail Saga
Caden had plans to assemble a posse to protect Chris from Jacob Sockness at Everfree Northwest[20], and to buy Chris a PC so he could do more streams[21], however both of these plans were cut short by Chris's arrest after he fucked his mother. After Chris got kicked out of his house for this, he contacted Caden to try and get his assistance in finding a hotel, though it is unknown how Caden responded to this[22].
While most cut ties with Chris after this, Praetor continued to talk to Chris. At one point, Chris mentioned that Caden was working on publishing the "Goddess Log", his jail diary[23].
In May 2022, Praetor began selling art that Chris made in jail, making their contact with Chris much more obvious. They also added audio clips of Chris promoting their medallions from jail to their Etsy. Aside from these, the products sold on OfficialCWCmart became increasingly strange, including arrowheads, cult robes, and signed g-fuel.
In June 2022, Chris started mentioning Caden in his letters, expressing his desire to have Helena Fiorenza collaborate with him[24], though Caden did not respond when Helena attempted to do so[25]. Chris also generally praised him, stating:
“ | Caden (Praetor) is genuinely one who is able to speak on my behalf when appropriate, and is in friendship and business association with I in mutual agreements; Include Him on the Fan Project Website, period, please. | ” |
Chris[26] |
“ | He's not flawless, but he is more Perfect of himself and at what and how he does as a legit Friend and in working on my behalf; He actually works well with his flaws and limits | ” |
Chris[27] |
In July 2022, Chris began writing in letters about his newfound hatred of Barb. He told Caden to check if Barb was still at 14 Branchland Court, which he did. Caden told Chris that she was still there and refused to leave, after which Chris instructed Caden to call the police on her.
“ | By Caden’s confirmation, Barbara was still at the Sonichu Temple; Redneck and Stubborn. So, giving him the list of her charable crimes, including pet negigance/mistreatment, suicide threats, emotional manipulation and abuse upon I, and ADA’s law of using someone else’s SSI, I have instructed Caden alone, to call the police on her. | ” |
Chris[28]. |
The two decided on starting a $150,000 fundraiser to pay off Chris's mortgages and debts, and to put Barb in an Elderly Care Home, with the help of Kenneth Engelhardt and Helena Fiorenza[29][30]. This fundraiser predictably failed, and ended with Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt, Helena Fiorenza and Eels and the Egg-man cutting ties with Chris[31].
Interview
- Main article: March 2023 Praetor Interview
In March 2023, Praetor had an interview with a Kiwi Farms user. In this interview, they claim that Chris calls them twice about the Etsy store. They also claim that the store has earned Chris a lot of money, despite him still being in jail.
“ | Chris calls twice a week to deal with the store, as no listings are made with out his express oversight. As for the cease and desists, we'd just advise that folk stay out of any trouble. Chris's cash has been accumulating, as the money he gets from both the store and monthly disability hasn't been touched while incarcerated. | ” |
They claim that the reason Chris hasn't sent any letters or had any visitors is because David Heilberg, Chris's lawyer, advised them to not let any "ill-meaning folk" near Chris.
“ | Both the lack of recent letters and having no visitors is intentional, as Heilberg advised us to close any way for ill-meaning folk to get close. | ” |
They offer more insider knowledge on Chris, such as the fact that he has grown a beard in prison, and that he has plans to return, with strange aspirations as well. None of these claims have been confirmed true, so it's ideal to take them with a grain of salt, however, Chris did in fact return, as foretold by Praetor.
The Second Coming
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After plenty of sightings online and offline, Chris finally made his grand return in October 2023. Along with Chris's return, OfficialCWCmart returned as well, stocked with a plethora of new items. This included new Sonichu medallions, with brand new pictures of Chris in front of a green screen, new promotions of Neo Spiritual Christianity, and dozens upon dozens of lost commissions that Chris drew for the Everfree Northwest fundraiser in 2021
Chris's new videos from this point forward were incredibly high quality (for Chris's standards), best seen in Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime Resurrected and Returned, in which Chris not only sings in front of a green screen, but numerous green screened versions of him dance in front of the screen as well. The trend of high-quality videos continued after this, with all of them containing Chris in front of a green screen.
It is very likely that Praetor is behind these videos, as they have previous experience with high-quality editing and Chris uses the same green screen which is used in the Etsy store. Chris also consistently promotes OfficialCWCmart in the description of these videos. These suspicions are once again validated in The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime, in which Chris turns off the stream in order to respond to a phone call from Caden Peck.
In late November 2023, users on Kiwi Farms managed to gather evidence that hinted towards Chris living in a house which was purchased by Caden in June 2023.
External links
References
- ↑ File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Naught DMs#Praetor
- ↑ Lonely feelings
- ↑ Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)
- ↑ Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed
- ↑ Lore Bible Discussion
- ↑ Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion
- ↑ The Place chats (January 2021)#The Watchmen Think Chris Should Get All of Praetor's Sales Money
- ↑ The Place chats (January 2021)#Cash from Praetor
- ↑ Golden Church of Sonichu
- ↑ Taser Discussion
- ↑ https://www.instagram.com/p/CHms9kGlhc3/ (archive: https://archive.ph/K6ojQ)
- ↑ 14.0 14.1 Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser
- ↑ Larry Vaughn DMs#Coded Message for Twitter Users
- ↑ Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Info Dump
- ↑ Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Info Dump
- ↑ Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Praetor
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW5OaHIfMdY&ab_channel=SuperMega
- ↑ WCT DMs#Sockness alert
- ↑ Older Lady Friend Call
- ↑ WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak
- ↑ Jail Call - 1 November 2021
- ↑ Jail Letter - 25 June 2022
- ↑ Jail Letter - 21 July 2022
- ↑ Jail Letter - 14 July 2022
- ↑ Jail Letter - 22 July 2022
- ↑ Jail Letter - 4 July 2022
- ↑ Jail Letter - 21 July 2022
- ↑ Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)
- ↑ Excommunication letter
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People: Chris • Praetor • Naught • MKRNightVee • Larry Vaughn • Isabella Janke • The WCT • Kyle • GiBi • Val | |||
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People: Chris • David Heilberg • Praetor • Kenneth Engelhardt • Barbara Chandler • Helena Fiorenza • Eels and the Egg-man • Flutter • Spamton G. Spamton • Zombo • Cory Allison • The Crusader • Bizarre Bazaar • Celestia • Michael Afghani • Jacob Sockness | ||||
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