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During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, mailing them art from jail, which they added to [[OfficialCWCmart]]. They began coming up with plans to help Chris, one of which included brainstorming a $150,000 fundraiser to buy out [[Barb]] from [[14 Branchland Court]]. Praetor has since expanded to other products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. Chris's income split for products made by him is unknown.  
During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, mailing them art from jail, which they added to [[OfficialCWCmart]]. They began coming up with plans to help Chris, one of which included brainstorming a $150,000 fundraiser to buy out [[Barb]] from [[14 Branchland Court]]. Praetor has since expanded to other products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. Chris's income split for products made by him is unknown.  


Upon Chris getting released from jail, they have become even more involved, as seen in the highly edited new videos and new photos of Chris added to [[OfficialCWCmart]]. In [[November 2023]], evidence hinting at Chris living with Caden - or at the very least using his house as a studio - emerged on [[Kiwi Farms]]
Upon Chris getting released from jail, they have become even more involved, as seen in the highly edited new videos and new photos of Chris added to [[OfficialCWCmart]]. In [[November 2023]], evidence hinting at Chris living at a house purchased by Caden - or at the very least using that house as a studio - emerged on [[Kiwi Farms]].


==Members==
==Members==
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Chris's new videos from this point forward were incredibly high quality (for Chris's standards), making itvery likely that Praetor is behind these videos, as they have previous experience with high-quality editing and Chris uses the same green screen which is used in the Etsy store. Chris also consistently promotes [[OfficialCWCmart]] in the description of these videos. These suspicions are once again validated in [[The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime]], in which Chris turns off the stream in order to respond to a phone call from Caden Peck.
Chris's new videos from this point forward were incredibly high quality (for Chris's standards), making itvery likely that Praetor is behind these videos, as they have previous experience with high-quality editing and Chris uses the same green screen which is used in the Etsy store. Chris also consistently promotes [[OfficialCWCmart]] in the description of these videos. These suspicions are once again validated in [[The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime]], in which Chris turns off the stream in order to respond to a phone call from Caden Peck.


In [[June 2023]], Caden bought a house in Big Island for $200,000. In [[November 2023]], [[Kiwi Farms]] users managed to find evidence hinting at Chris living with Caden, or at the very least uses it as a studio. Firstly, Chris's [[November 2023 social media posts|P.O Box]] is only 22 minutes from the house. Chris has been [[Post-jail sightings (2023)|previously sighted in Big Island]]. On an October 23 streetview, a car covered by a sheet can be seen outside the house, with a tire suspiciously similar to Chris's car. Lastly, in Chris's recent streams, we have occasionally gotten glimpses of his house, with one of the doors appearing in the streams perfectly matching up with a listing for Caden's house.
In [[June 2023]], Caden bought a property in Big Island for $250,000. In [[November 2023]], [[Kiwi Farms]] users managed to find evidence hinting at Chris living at the property Caden had purchased, or at the very least uses it as a studio. Firstly, Chris's [[November 2023 social media posts|P.O Box]] is only 22 minutes from the house. Chris has been [[Post-jail sightings (2023)|previously sighted in Big Island]]. On an October 23 streetview, a car covered by a sheet can be seen outside the house, with a tire suspiciously similar to Chris's car. Lastly, in Chris's recent streams, we have occasionally gotten glimpses of his house, with one of the doors appearing in the streams perfectly matching up with a listing for the property.


==External links==
==External links==

Revision as of 15:59, 22 November 2023

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Note on Credibility:

Praetor has been deemed to be an unreliable narrator for the following reasons:
The members are all infamous attention seekers, and merely got in touch with Chris with the sole intent of piggybacking off his notoriety on the internet.
The members will occasionally say edgy and disgusting things purely for shock value.[1]
Bear this in mind, and use healthy skepticism when taking statements from the subject being discussed.

Praetor's logo
Caden Peck, leader of Praetor

Praetor LLC (sometimes referred to as "The Praetors") is a group of edgy college-aged businesspeople led by Caden Peck (born September 27, 2002), also known as tinyhorse01. They have claimed to exist for 3 years before coming in contact with Chris, working with creative types, supposedly including working in order to officiate the Republic of Molossia as an official nation. However, the truth of this is unknown, and the business is known to be incredibly unprofessional.

They came in contact with Chris to produce and sell Sonichu and CWC themed products on their Etsy store OfficialCWCmart, with Chris's permission, giving him a cut of the profits in exchange. In mid-December 2020, Praetor began offering Sonichu medallions for sale, which were produced by the group and approved of by Chris. As of 2023, they have made around $150,000 out of OfficialCWCmart.

During the Jail Saga, Chris continued communicating with them, mailing them art from jail, which they added to OfficialCWCmart. They began coming up with plans to help Chris, one of which included brainstorming a $150,000 fundraiser to buy out Barb from 14 Branchland Court. Praetor has since expanded to other products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. Chris's income split for products made by him is unknown.

Upon Chris getting released from jail, they have become even more involved, as seen in the highly edited new videos and new photos of Chris added to OfficialCWCmart. In November 2023, evidence hinting at Chris living at a house purchased by Caden - or at the very least using that house as a studio - emerged on Kiwi Farms.

Members

From left to right, Annie Ikenberry, most likely Cabell, Caden Peck, and Christine Chandler. Not pictured are Owen Sundstrom and Isabella Loretta Janke
In the group, Annie is very much psychically able. Owen is like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs. Cabell is also psychically inclined, but she's the artist. Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business.
Chris[2]

Whilst Caden leads the group, and presumably does most of the heavy lifting, there are numerous other members in the group.

Annibelle Ikenberry

Annibelle "Annie" Ikenberry (annirenee) is an erocosplayer and OnlyFans camgirl. According to Chris, she is "psychically able". In a 17 February 2021 discussion with the Watchmen, Chris confessed that he had considered her for a possible relationship.[3]

Owen Sundstrom

Owen Scott Sundstrom (owen_sundstrom) is a co-founder of Praetor, according to Larry Vaughn. He was present at the Goochland Library Sermon, where he was photographed posing with Chris. He also appears to be the photographer who took the picture of Chris and Praetor at the Chinese restaurant. According to Chris, Owen is "like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs". Owen, along with Caden, suggested a link between the Mayan calendar and Chris's dream about a golden disc.[2]

Cabell

Cabell, according to Chris is 'psychically inclined, but she's the artist'. Unlike the other members of Praetor, the least is known about her. There has been speculation that Cabell was a nickname for Bella, however at the time of Chris mentioning Cabell he had not met Bella. Cabell is most likely the blonde woman featured in the picture of Praetor at a Chinese restaurant. Initially, Praetor mistagged the blonde woman on Instagram, linking a completely separate account to her.

Given that Chris has referred to Cabell as the artist, it can be assumed that she creates the medallions, as Chris has mentioned that the artist of the group was the one to create them.

Isabella Loretta Janke

Main article: Isabella Loretta Janke

Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke, a troll most infamous for her horrid actions and revealing Chris's incestuous affair with his mother, had relations with Praetor. They commissioned her to animate Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation, an animation of Chris and the Sonichu characters, which Chris uploaded to his YouTube channel.

The Beginning

The golden medallion Praetor gave to Chris
Chris in a meeting with Caden
I've always known about Christine. She always struck me as unique in the sense that she is probably one of the most famous people ever who has profited the least from her fame.

When I heard that she had tried to launch a store before, but been overwhelmed, I knew that there was a chance at profit. I run almost everything I do privately, so I reached out to Christine myself.

Caden[4]

On 21 September 2020, a "trio of fans" came to Chris's door with a golden Sonichu medallion, crafted by "the young lady of the group, with paint that had a mixture of 24K gold in it". The "tall boys" had a business proposition for Chris, that with their mold press, they could mass produce and sell Sonichu medallions.[5] Chris accepted, deeming them as trustworthy, and noted that he had a vision earlier where an artist crafted medallions for him.

They have their business based in Goochland.

And I could tell by soul-reading them that their intentions were legit, honest and true.

Chris[5]

On 22 September 2020, Chris made a post on The Place Discord server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates".[5] He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.

On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the Watchmen again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC.

Our new peeps are good and genuine; they’re setting up the new Etsy shop as well, and making the first wave of medallions molded from the one they made for me that was 24K gold-mix painted.

Although, Confidentially, while they do have their business connections, they do not yet have a website; I did a Google search for their name of “Praetor LLC”. But everything remains valid, and they do check in with me and talk, plus soul-sense from the lot of them.

Chris[6]

On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible".[7]

On the 15th, Praetor's Discord account, run by Caden Peck, joined the The Place Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.[8]

Chat Excerpts
We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.
It costs about 3 dollars per medallion. We sell them for 25 apiece, as to match our competitors. Etsy brand imposters are selling Medallions for 25-30. To uproot them, we must match or go below their prices.

If business is good, we'll increase sales by discounting them, selling them for 15-20

In order to emulate Sonichu's original medallion, they are stamped in a mold we made and baked. Then, painted. We mail them from our own company pocket for a while, as it is cheaper then registration with a mailing company. When we get big enough, we can afford to register and get discounted shipping services
We've not shipped any yet, so we only have estimates. It won't be more then a few dollars.

The medallions are not large not heavy.

We signed a confidentiality agreement with Sonichu, as we are a company. If Sonichu gives her consent, I can disclose profit splits and profit estimates.
We've worked with creative types for about 3 years now. You may recognize a few of my more eccentric clients!

Have any of you ever heard of Molossia?

After being asked if they sold merch for Molossia:

We don't only do merch. We helped him find someone to write a dissertation on the micronation's sovereignty.

He's using that to try and officiate his territory as a nation.

More power to him, I suppose.

What do y'all do? I'm excited to be working with this team.

I used to have a website, but due to domain costs I took it down. When it comes to clients, I find that it's easier to find eccentric people then to have them find you. If you're interested in partnership or a meeting, I've been transitioning us to social media. We have a new twitter and an Instagram.

Our email is llcpraetor@gmail.com.

@praetor_llc and the Twitter is @praetor

With social media, I can find my own clientele. Considering that I'm here, seems like things are working out!

On another brand named 'Praetor LLC':

Oh no, we know about Praetor LLC. They're actually not trademarked, we've talked to them. Their site is a homedone project. The only internationally trademarked Praetor brand is Praetor Technologies.

On 16 October, they arranged for Chris to give a sermon at Goochland library, where he spewed his Dimensional Merge delusions. This spiel was done in front of a large screen displaying the Praetor logo. When it was eventually released on YouTube, it started with a loud dramatic opening, commissioned from an unknown source. They also added sarcastic captions, mocking Chris. The Praetor members took photos with Chris after the sermon.

On 19 October, Praetor's presence was made known to the public, when they released multiple photos of Chris and the members of Praetor at a Chinese restaurant. One of these images included the members' Instagram handles, making it very easy for them to get doxxed.

On 13 November 2020, Chris uploaded Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation, an animation that Praetor had commissioned from Isabella Loretta Janke. After this, Bella began regularly chatting with Chris, eventually becoming rather infamous for unrelated reasons.

Etsy Shop

(Editor's Note: All descriptions, titles, and product designs come directly from Chris Chan. These are hand done, and will therefore reflect the "Chris Chan Style." Expect defects, burns, and a general lapse in quality.)
Praetor's Etsy account, confirming that the products being shipped will be dogshit, even by Chris's standards
Praetor somehow manages to make the medallion look worse

Praetor created an Etsy shop for Chris, OfficialCWCmart, where they sell Sonichu medallions and other merchandise. As of 2023, it has accumulated more than 3000 sales. The medallions sold by them manage to look much worse than any medallions made by Chris, and are completely inconsistent in how they look.

In mid-December 2020, Praetor began offering Sonichu medallions for sale, which were produced by the group and approved of by Chris. A month later, they had made $5,900 worth of sales on their medallion product,[9] though information such as their operating costs is unknown, as is how much profit the group members had after expenses. In mid-January 2021, Chris confirmed having received nearly $400 in small cash amounts for his share.[10]

Golden Church of Sonichu Cult Robe, sold an year after the server died out

Praetor also created a Discord server, Golden Church of Sonichu, which was created for anyone who bought their Golden Medallions on their Etsy shop. The server served as another outlet for Chris to rant about his delusions. Caden often posted in there too, giving insight into Praetor's bizarre plans.

-Christine has fully greenlit [REDACTED]'s video game. Please message Chris directly as soon as possible, as Christine would like to provide some direction with the game's storyline.

-The Praetor Flamethrower will be stress-tested this upcoming week at a local firing range sponsoring us. Please standby for future details.

-Christine has approved the future sale of Potions blessed by her. These are to be sold for less than $17 apiece, but a fixed price has not yet been decided. We need help finding cheaply shipped glassware in bulk. As cheap as possible is best, as we are going to be selling 3-4 kinds of potions stocked at at least 12 each. Bottles must be at very least 4oz, at most 16oz.

-Christine's Golden Medallions have already sold out. Expect more members soon.

-Test footage for [REDACTED] has been filmed in order to see if she can cgi a Sonichu next to Chris, allowing us to feature a Sonichu in the upcoming Chris Chan Movie. Please complete this as soon as possible, and we will kiss you on the mouth.

Caden[11]

Upon hacking into Isabella Loretta Janke's account, a short clip showing the behind-the-scenes process of the Chris Chan Movie was leaked. It shows Chris posing as a Praetor member commentates, telling him specific poses to do, while he's supposedly standing next to Rosechu, who would be added in post as a CGI character.

Taser Controversy

The Taser
we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea.
Caden, one of Praetor's members, trying to talk Chris out of tazing himself.[12]

On 15 November 2020, Praetor posted a screenshot of an online shopping service's shopping cart - in the cart was a Pikachu mask and a VIPERTEK VTS-989 560 BV stun gun. Praetor stated:

As Praetor, we always work hard to produce the best videos we can. Good works are in progress!
Praetor on an Instagram post featuring a Pikachu mask and stun gun.[13]
The image featured in the instagram post

Praetor later claimed this was for promotion of sales of autographed tasers.

In February 2021, Chris stated that he wanted to borrow one of Praetor's tasers to stun his Gate Crystal and Celestial Key quartz crystals in an attempt to activate the Dimensional Merge.[14]

The Watchmen confronted Caden Peck about this, saying that it was dangerous for Praetor to be allowing Chris to use it and that Chris could hurt himself. In response, Caden insisted that Chris would be safe and that the group would act with safety in mind, that he would not permanently possess one of their tasers, and that the version Chris would use is a lower-powered one than the items Praetor would be selling.[14] Eventually, both parties began insulting each other on Discord. They eventually agreed to have a call about the issue, in which the Watchmen berate Caden about the issue.

Near the end of the call, Watchmen member Val jokingly asked if Praetor could get Chris to tase himself on video, to which Chris responded saying that he'd be willing too. Everyone is shocked by this, and Caden attempts to dissuade Chris from tazing himself.

Watchmen member Naught then released that portion of the audio clip, but twisted the context to make it seem like Praetor wanted Chris to tase himself. This rumor was perpetuated by other Watchmen members, and eventually reached GiBi, who made a video claiming it was fact.

Naught then doxxed Caden on the forum, which led to Larry Vaughn making multiple posts sharing his experiences with Praetor. While many were skeptical of Vaughn's claims, due to him arguably being an unreliable narrator, his DMs with Chris reveal that he did in fact have a phone call with Caden, meaning his post is most likely true[15].

Larry Vaughn's Posts
Still hard to believe that [Caden Peck] legit thought that I was the representative of a group of rich folks that would buy shitty medallions so we could roleplay with Chris in a private Discord server.
Larry Vaughn[16]
So my initial contact with them was when Christine sent me Caden's phone number and asked me to call him. I initially thought that he was going to tell me to fuck off, but he at the time at least entertained the idea of bringing 'us' (LAnon) on board. He pitched the idea of 'golden sonichu medallions' to me, which were basically regular Sonichu medallions with a code or something on them that would grant people access to a discord group to talk with Chris directly. He said that Christine "was a very busy woman with everything going on, and that Praetor basically served to screen out trolls from legitimate business dealings so she could have time to focus on her tasks." I said that I would entertain their offer, and I would just need to take a headcount of who would be interested in one.

[...]

-Praetor was the brainchild of Caden, and was initially just like the Teen Troon Squad before they had the idea to make a cult around Christine, and eventually even this devolved into them basically becoming a slightly less shitty version of the idea guys 2.0

-They work in a nasty basement painting Sonichu medallions to sell. Now people seem to think that they just give Chris the money. They don't, they basically hold it from him unless he does what they want

-The amount of money they make is apparently enough that Christine could have hired a private investigator to come after me, and this person contacted me after Chris threatened to call the cops on me

-My 'big plan' (Sending Chris to Florida) was apparently liked by Caden, to the point that he would pay for a ticket for Chris

-Chris claimed that Null was on Praetor's side, and was working with them to hunt me down (whether this is real or a delusion of Chris' is yet to be determined)

Larry Vaughn[17]
To be honest Praetor just wants to further enable Chris at this point because doing so makes them money. Like they thought that I put mushrooms in the wine to poison Chris, they thought that they could get money from me, and they also thought that I was like 30 people.
Larry Vaughn[18]
A message left for a customer who bought a taser

In 2022, Praetor began selling tasers previously autographed by Chris on their Etsy shop, supposedly for the purpose of simulating "zapping to the extreme" for buyers. Etsy quickly removed this listing. Eventually, Praetor created a listing titled 'The Secret Listing', a listing that had no information on what it was. It was later revealed through emails that The Secret Listing was a taser, with the fact hidden in order to bypass Etsy guidelines.

One of the people who bought the taser would mail it to the channel SuperMega, where they would unbox it on video[19].

Jail Saga

Caden had plans to assemble a posse to protect Chris from Jacob Sockness at Everfree Northwest[20], and to buy Chris a PC so he could do more streams[21], however both of these plans were cut short by Chris's arrest after he fucked his mother. After Chris got kicked out of his house for this, he contacted Caden to try and get his assistance in finding a hotel, though it is unknown how Caden responded to this[22].

While most cut ties with Chris after this, Praetor continued to talk to Chris. At one point, Chris mentioned that Caden was working on publishing the "Goddess Log", his jail diary[23].

In May 2022, Praetor began selling art that Chris made in jail, making their contact with Chris much more obvious. They also added audio clips of Chris promoting their medallions from jail to their Etsy. Aside from these, the products sold on OfficialCWCmart became increasingly strange, including arrowheads, cult robes, and signed g-fuel.

In June 2022, Chris started mentioning Caden in his letters, expressing his desire to have Helena Fiorenza collaborate with him[24], though Caden did not respond when Helena attempted to do so[25]. Chris also generally praised him, stating:

Caden (Praetor) is genuinely one who is able to speak on my behalf when appropriate, and is in friendship and business association with I in mutual agreements; Include Him on the Fan Project Website, period, please.
Chris[26]
He's not flawless, but he is more Perfect of himself and at what and how he does as a legit Friend and in working on my behalf; He actually works well with his flaws and limits
Chris[27]

In July 2022, Chris began writing in letters about his newfound hatred of Barb. He told Caden to check if Barb was still at 14 Branchland Court, which he did. Caden told Chris that she was still there and refused to leave, after which Chris instructed Caden to call the police on her.

By Caden’s confirmation, Barbara was still at the Sonichu Temple; Redneck and Stubborn. So, giving him the list of her charable crimes, including pet negigance/mistreatment, suicide threats, emotional manipulation and abuse upon I, and ADA’s law of using someone else’s SSI, I have instructed Caden alone, to call the police on her.
Chris[28].

The two decided on starting a $150,000 fundraiser to pay off Chris's mortgages and debts, and to put Barb in an Elderly Care Home, with the help of Kenneth Engelhardt and Helena Fiorenza[29][30]. This fundraiser predictably failed, and ended with Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt, Helena Fiorenza and Eels and the Egg-man cutting ties with Chris[31].

Interview

Main article: March 2023 Praetor Interview

In March 2023, Praetor had an interview with a Kiwi Farms user. In this interview, they claim that Chris calls them twice about the Etsy store. They also claim that the store has earned Chris a lot of money, despite him still being in jail.

Chris calls twice a week to deal with the store, as no listings are made with out his express oversight. As for the cease and desists, we'd just advise that folk stay out of any trouble. Chris's cash has been accumulating, as the money he gets from both the store and monthly disability hasn't been touched while incarcerated.

They claim that the reason Chris hasn't sent any letters or had any visitors is because David Heilberg, Chris's lawyer, advised them to not let any "ill-meaning folk" near Chris.

Both the lack of recent letters and having no visitors is intentional, as Heilberg advised us to close any way for ill-meaning folk to get close.

They offer more insider knowledge on Chris, such as the fact that he has grown a beard in prison, and that he has plans to return, with strange aspirations as well. None of these claims have been confirmed true, so it's ideal to take them with a grain of salt, however, Chris did in fact return, as foretold by Praetor.

The Second Coming

What appears to be Son-Chu, covered up so trolls wouldn't spot it, spotted on a Google Maps view of Caden's house

After plenty of sightings online and offline, Chris finally made his grand return in October 2023. Along with Chris's return, OfficialCWCmart returned as well, stocked with a plethora of new items. This included new Sonichu medallions, with brand new pictures of Chris in front of a green screen, new promotions of Neo Spiritual Christianity, and dozens upon dozens of lost commissions that Chris drew for the Everfree Northwest fundraiser in 2021

Chris's new videos from this point forward were incredibly high quality (for Chris's standards), making itvery likely that Praetor is behind these videos, as they have previous experience with high-quality editing and Chris uses the same green screen which is used in the Etsy store. Chris also consistently promotes OfficialCWCmart in the description of these videos. These suspicions are once again validated in The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime, in which Chris turns off the stream in order to respond to a phone call from Caden Peck.

In June 2023, Caden bought a property in Big Island for $250,000. In November 2023, Kiwi Farms users managed to find evidence hinting at Chris living at the property Caden had purchased, or at the very least uses it as a studio. Firstly, Chris's P.O Box is only 22 minutes from the house. Chris has been previously sighted in Big Island. On an October 23 streetview, a car covered by a sheet can be seen outside the house, with a tire suspiciously similar to Chris's car. Lastly, in Chris's recent streams, we have occasionally gotten glimpses of his house, with one of the doors appearing in the streams perfectly matching up with a listing for the property.

External links

References

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The Players

People: ChrisPraetorNaughtMKRNightVeeLarry VaughnIsabella JankeThe WCTKyleGiBiVal


Tasers: Business:
Coinciding Sagas: Watchmen, Jail, Revelations
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The Players

People: ChrisDavid HeilbergPraetorKenneth EngelhardtBarbara ChandlerHelena FiorenzaEels and the Egg-manFlutterSpamton G. SpamtonZomboCory AllisonThe CrusaderBizarre BazaarCelestiaMichael AfghaniJacob Sockness


Places Misc Jail Communications:
Coinciding Sagas: Praetor
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Places: Gateway HomesBig Island HouseMal-WartBattlegrounds Game ShopChesterfield Towne CenterEarthbound Trading Co.Modern Table Top GamingWilliamsburg Premium OutletsDragon Fire Games14 Branchland Court
Platforms: RedditTwitter4chanDiscord

The Players: The Prizes:
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Platforms: DeviantARTYouTubeRedditTwitter4chanDiscord

The Players: The Prizes:
Coinciding Sagas: Praetor, GOPony
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