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* Chris has [[Praetor|a group of local friends]] which he will meet again soon. He considers one of these local friends for a potential relationship, but is more certain that Magi-Chan will be coming sooner than that. | * Chris has [[Praetor|a group of local friends]] which he will meet again soon. He considers one of these local friends for a potential relationship, but is more certain that Magi-Chan will be coming sooner than that. | ||
* Chris appears to be seeking [[validation]] that Magi-Chan is coming. | * Chris appears to be seeking [[validation]] that Magi-Chan is coming. | ||
==Call 5== | ==Call 5== | ||
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| Delusion disclosure: This article or section takes place during Chris's phase of role-playing as Sonichu. He may refer to his Christine Chandler personality and physical body in the third person by using terms such as "mama". |
| “ | So basically I watched the genosamuels documentary and was like, wouldn't it be cool if I talked to chris-chan? so i reached out via instagram dms claiming to be a psychic and she believed me. Next thing I know im helping coax her "back to reality" and get "sonichu" out of chris chans body. Enjoy I guess. | ” |
| KwaiiSandbag's introduction.[1] | ||
KwaiiSandbag is an enabler who pretended to be a psychic to influence Chris. KwaiiSandbag initially reached out to Chris through Instagram after watching Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History just for fun, but this effort resulted in a series of conversations that would convince Chris to stop LARPing as Sonichu. KwaiiSandbag, upon being confronted by outside parties explaining why Chris should not be directly contacted, eventually expressed remorse for his actions. Around the same time, he came clean with Chris by revealing that he was not actually a psychic as he had claimed, which Chris acted like he knew all along (when he very clearly did not, as otherwise he wouldn't have been tricked into giving up his pretense of being a fictional character).
On one hand, this intervention was a somewhat positive experience for Chris in that it unwittingly allowed him to overcome one of his many maladaptive coping mechanisms, but on the other, it demonstrated how easy it is for someone to reach out to him to manipulate him further, even with groups of white knights like the Watchmen trying to "protect" Chris from this kind of thing, and may inspire future weening as a result. It also demonstrates how bringing more attention to Chris, even with good intentions for doing so, can lead to an increase in these sorts of interactions.
Multiple voice chats were released by KwaiiSandbag on 20 March 2021.[2]
Highlights
- During his role-play of body swapping with imaginary friend Sonichu, Chris believed he used Sonichu's body to have sex with his spouses Magi-Chan, Cryzel, Sylvana, and Mewtwo.
- While under that body swap delusion, Chris felt more fulfilled in his imaginary relationships.
- Chris is lonely in the real-world dimension and expects Magi-Chan to cross over to this dimension soon so they can physically be together.
- Chris has a group of local friends which he will meet again soon. He considers one of these local friends for a potential relationship, but is more certain that Magi-Chan will be coming sooner than that.
- Chris appears to be seeking validation that Magi-Chan is coming.
Call 5
| Chris Chan Psychic Chat #5 | |
| Stardate | 9 March 2021 |
| Audio Recordings | |
| previous Chris Chan Psychic Chat #4 |
next N/A |
Call 5 transcript
| Transcript |
| KwaiiSandbag: Oh hello, um, sorry about that, uh little bit of a communication issue, uh Lily's- getting out of the shower right now so it'll be a second for her, but I'm here.
Chris: OK. How are you doing? KwaiiSandbag: I'm great, how are you? Chris: I feel pretty good. KwaiiSandbag: Had a good week? Chris: Well, improving, things have been improving I feel better. KwaiiSandbag: Well it's good to hear. Chris: I'm starting to figure out my powers, um, working, i'm working, my conscious brain is starting to figure out these powers for real, at least for, in terms of this universe. KwaiiSandbag: I see. Chris: And, uh... And uh essentially pretty much I was told that, i was told by you know everybody in from C-197 just you know Magi-Chan, MewTwo, and what not, they tell me i need to definitely meditate and search within myself a whole bunch. KwaiiSandbag: And have you done that? Chris: Yeah, I'm doing that I still have a lot more soul- a lot more in depth work to do but making good progress. And I also went out today, I went to the uh, I went down to Ivy Creek Nature Area and walked a lap around and uh stopped by the creek, had a meditate, sit on the big ol rock and put my feet in the water. KwaiiSandbag: And how did that feel? Chris: It was cold, but it was good. Felt alive. KwaiiSandbag: That's good to hear. Chris: So yeah, uh among that's also a part of, aspect of reconnecting with nature. KwaiiSandbag: Yes. KwaiiSandbag: So... What have you been thinking about over the past week? Chris: [sighs] Hard, it's hard to say off hand but just thinking about everything and of course the dimension merge, everybody and real, and, just reanalyzing the situation in myself, and present, and so on so forth. [loud hoot] Chris: It's a lot of brain work. KwaiiSandbag: Yes, I can definitely understand that. Chris: But yeah, I mean it's- it's not as much brain work as y'know projecting myself so much and being in another universe a lot of the time. And doing all that work. KwaiiSandbag: Yes. So, speaking of doing a lot of work, so while you were in C-197 I understand you caught up on comic book pages and uh, stuff like that. When do you think that's gonna be released? Chris: Well considering all those books are in C-197, I'd say... post-dimension merge? In the very near future. [pause] KwaiiSandbag: So... Chris: Because i'm still unlocking my- I'm still unlocking my powers for this universe, which will shortly- shortly enough be fully tangible and work, well to where I can barely do a show for everybody, be like hey I can do this I can do that. [unintelligible] KwaiiSandbag: Yeah have you thought about like uploading a youtube video or something on Twitter? Chris: Hmm, yes I have thought about it, but- but the way my powers manifest in my universe at this point? It's like they're- they're more tangible in feeling so it's like you'd have to be right here in person to feel it or you'd have to be so sensitive that you had to view it and actually see it if I were to record a video. KwaiiSandbag: Well... I would know what you're doing and I'm sure other psychics out there if they watched it would be able to feel the energy coming from it so I don't really see the harm in uploading a video of you trying to manifest something. Chris: We'll take that under consideration and think about that further. KwaiiSandbag: Yeah. Chris: I'm also figuring out my other self mental blocks, so I can dispose of them and get them out of the way. KwaiiSandbag: Well why don't you tell me about those? Chris: Well, the obvious one the fact that I was born high functioning autistic, I mostly got over that. KwaiiSandbag: And how did you get over that? Chris: Just, pretty much... Lily: Sorry- sorry I'm late, I just got out of the shower. Uh hello? Chris: Hey there. Lily: Hey there Christine, sorry about that. KwaiiSandbag: We're talking about uh, kind of roadblocks in Christine's life, and how she's gotten over them. Lily: I see ok, sorry sorry. Chris: Well not, it's not- it's mostly various and whatnot but it's really about um, trying to think. Right here I have the term written down, it's essentially- oh yeah, essentially just trying to clear away any remaining self judgements and self criticisms... Chris: So there's that. Anyways, just been doing- anyway to catch you up I've been doing a lot of further self-examining and uh... certain... meditating looking more into myself as opposed to outward. Lily: Mhmm. Chris: And I also took a nature walk today and meditated on a big ol rock, dipped my feet in the flowing river. It's cold! But it felt alive and it felt great. Lily: That's really wonderful. I understand the uh- was this- this involved the gazebo? Is that part of your nature walk? It's kinda an interdimensional rift? Is that what it is, I'm sorry. Chris: Well the gazebo in the backyard is uh, it's kinda- it's kinda like a beacon or a kind of a link between the two universes as well, but, in reference to earlier I was talking about today I went to a nature area. Lily: Oh, alright. Chris: I walked a big ol lap around there, down and up hills. Lily: That's great, that's really great I feel like, I mean like uh, I think it's the same for you, kinda your psychic energy, spiritual energy really gets awakened when you're in these kinda nature settings. Chris: Yeah, but it's also, I've realized and learned recently that my uh, both my root and sacral chakras, they need a heavy amount of recharging, cause all my energy is just in between my third and crown and soul star chakra points. So those are like overcharged. KwaiiSandbag: Mhmm. Chris: So i've taken, conscious ability to redirect energy from the higher chakra points down to the lower one, the excess energy. KwaiiSandbag: So, I saw on Twitter today that you posted about the amount of willpower it takes to manifest something in this dimension. Chris: And it's not brainpower, it's not willpower but... KwaiiSandbag: Yeah, physical power. Chris: Yeah. KwaiiSandbag: Do you mind telling us, like, exactly how much power that takes? Chris: Uh... Well, you're psychics, you should know! KwaiiSandbag: That is very true, but... sometimes it's good to hear a second opinion. Chris: It is good to hear a second opinion, anyways. Um, anyway yeah, just, well it takes massive amounts and obviously my brain is overpowered along with all my other abilities, along with the rest of my body and everything. But it still gets very tiring. KwaiiSandbag: Mhmm. KwaiiSandbag: So... Lily do you have anything to ask? Lily: Uh, sorry I'm just still kind of uh, kind of spaced out from the- just got out of the shower, was just doing my evening routine, uh let me think. Hmm. Chris: Yeah, I'm kinda feeling in spacing, zoning, in and out myself right now. Lily: Very interesting, maybe it's, uh something connecting all of us in our spacing. Chris: Yeah, the... it's definitely connected with the dimension merge or as I heard somebody else call it, um... Darn it, that word stayed there but...eh. Lily: Yeah I definitely think it's probably like a- a mind merge, like the dimensions haven't fully merged yet but our consciousness might be uh- kinda phasing in and out of between in the dimensions. Chris: Yeah that's what we're doing it uh... [pause] KwaiiSandbag: Hmm, so... [pause] KwaiiSandbag: I'm sorry I'm like a little tired. Chris: I'm a little tired too. I'm just... I'm trying to think of this word, but anyway yeah dimension merge, EVERYBODY who is psychic um, magic, or just at least that level- that high level sensitive, they're, i mean we all are feeling this, so yeah. And we're all in this together so everybody's at least doing their, at least a little bit, if not a massive amount. Among, the levels I've done, jeeze. Lily: Good to know that we're not alone. Good. Chris: Yeah. It's a shame that we can't actually show this to some- some regular mental... uh neurotypical type of person who's like, hey come on manifest something in front of us. But then it's like, I'm SO difficulty doing it in this universe. Lily: Did you find in the um, C-197, it came- manifesting came with a lot greater ease due to the magic that was lost? Chris: Yeah, it's a lot easier there. Lily: Can even uh... sorry that was uh- I was gonna say could even non-magical people do it, but everyone's magical there, my bad. Chris: Eh. I think it's uh, mostly psychics and magic types, and then also creative types who write, draw, and so forth, that have explored C-197, at least in their imaginations and whatnot. It's like in essence ___ vs. sonichu, where the- where [unclear, timestamp 11:50] and Courtney end up writing things into effect while they were in dimension, I mean universe N641 with essence to get out of that massive dimension merge which mistakenly did that to allllllll of the other universes, as opposed to just the two, the two neighbouring. Lily: Right, and there's- there's an infinite number of universes, according to the multiverse and all that. Chris: Yes. Lily: So is it just C-137's merging or is it every universe that's merging? Chris: It's just, it's just 1218 and C-197. Lily: Gotcha, I'm sorry, mixing em up. Um... So will the rest join at one time, or are these the only two that are fated to join? Chris: Uh, most of the other pairs of universes within all the other dimensions, they have merged. Lily: Mmm. So we're behind- Chris: So this pair, our pair of universes here is amongst the last- amongst of the last to be. Lily: Right. So we're kinda behind the trends, everyone else is already merging and we're behind all of them. Chris: Yeah, but in a sense it's a good thing because all the- cause like Magi-Chan and MewTwo they were able to observe into the other dimensions and universes, those that were- did merge and were able to see and witness it as it happened, what events happened that led to that eventuality in there so they could make that- so we could get that in similar effect to what we have here within this timeline between our pair of universes. Lily: Right, right. And that'll- you know we can kinda be more prepared and not um... Chris: That's the deal! Lily: Repeat mistakes that maybe other, other pairs have made. Chris: Yeah like for an obvious example, one time in a- in a distant dimension uh essentially, Sonichu Prime there uh just usurped the powers and abilities from his respective Chris-Chan and took over a Chris, that Chris-Chan's world. And that did not work out at all. And then obviously another one where that Chris-Chan was just all dark magic, dark powers as opposed to light magic and light powered and that didn't work out either. Lily: Was that- did that Chris-Chan turn evil or just uh? Chris: That's, yep, yeah. Lily: Wow, have you had any- obviously not physical, but spiritual encounters with this version? Chris: Uh, I've, yeah, I've encountered uh, just pretty much nearly all of my other self counterparts between all the other dimensions and universes and timelines. And of course I have a bunch of self counterparts in C-197. Lily: Are you friends with any of them? I understand- no- they can't all be bad. Chris: Yeah, I'm friends and acquaintances and uh, you know neutral relationships on uh, with the majority of them, so we kind of have uhh, neutral to good vibes for the most part between each other, as a group. Lily: Right. [pause] Chris: Anyways, so what have y'all been feeling lately? Seeing... KwaiiSandbag: I've been seeing a lot of energy in Virginia, and I'm pretty sure that's you. Uhh, just generally like manifesting and um, kind of bringing together, you know? And... I don't know, I remember we talked last week about relationships and um, stuff like that, has anything happened with that? Chris: Um, yeah a bit of a- bit of progress on that um... KwaiiSandbag: Oh really? Chris: Yeah I managed to get a little bit of a further understanding in that from uh, my further internal self exploration I still need to uh, estab... things like when I would be desired... for such satisfaction from a part... from a partner if not Magi-Chan that would manifest herself within this universe. Lily: And you're looking for a girl, a female so not... Chris: Well my body is yeah, but also on that note I've learned that the important key is self love. Because if i love myself the way I would want my partner to love me so I can have all that figured out then that would attract... that aspect would attract the other person. It's like uh, you're programming a magnet to, with these certain qualities to attract this type of individual and then eventually when you get all the details sorted out then [Chris whoops] Lily: You know what you want it's easier to manifest it. You gotta know exactly what you're looking for, um. Lily: So I understand um, Magi-Chan is polyamorous, in a polyamourous relationship correct? Chris: Yeah, I'm there uh, yeah between me, Magi-Chan, Cryzel Rosechu, Silvana Rosechu and the one and only MewTwo that was cloned in Giovanni's lab, we're all married together, the 5 of us. Lily: It's not um, it's not those are just Magi-Chan's partners and you all share each other? Chris: Yeah, we all share each other and uh, yeah it's a very good and it's also open relationships for any other explorations to... cause considering heavy psychic power types this particular arrangement and extradimensional at least in Cryzel's case, so yeah there's all that. So yeah it's polyamourous and I just feel like this is a good fit for me and it allows me room to still... I mean especially in this universe if not Magi-Chan finds somebody who can actually satisfy my body's physical needs so with- my realization that I need self love I managed to find within my abilities the healing energy to where I could actually instill the positive feelings of that particular type of satisfactory love upon myself so that I could make my body feel better. Lily: Right, that's great and then the [clears throat] that's also great to hear about polyamourous relationship works, cause I understand that with a lot of people who are in poly relationships, uh if it's kind of you're not sharing all the partners there can be a lot of jealousy and self-resentment so that's a good way to avoid that. Chris: Yeah. Lily: Have you had any difficulties with that, with the uh, polyamory, or uh, I understood a lot of people need counselling, go to support groups for that, or have you been fine with it? Chris: Uh, we've met- we've gotten along for the most part, and we've adapted- and I mean considering you're in a group, considering we're a group of psychic types pretty much, it's like we... Lily: Much deeper connection. Chris: We have a deeper connection yes. And we work to get a little better, you know if you look on Amazon Prime there's a kinda like a psuedo, hang on, okay there's a psuedo softcore porn documentary type of show called Polyamory, and it explores couples in polyamorous relationships, there's two seasons. I believe it aired on Cinemax or HBO but it's on Amazon Prime. Lily: Right, OK, I might check that out, honestly- personally I'm, I suppose my psyche abilities have not developed to the point where I could be ok with the polyamourous relationship, I feel like I have too many insecurities and stuff like that, but I do suspect that once I kind of ascend further I might be able to engage in that sort of thing. Chris: Well, at least you're interested so that's a good- so that's good. Lily: Yeah, it's uh, I think it's very important for... Um, what's it called, you know kind of strengthening psychic bonds, you know the more love you have in your life the more powerful it becomes. Chris: Yeah. I agree. KwaiiSandbag: Now, I unfortunately... will have to cut it short very soon because I have to schedule something for tomorrow, but um, is there anything else that we wanna talk about before... Chris: Well I guess I'm mostly good for now, but yeah, both of y'all keep your, keep opening you know thoughts as much as you both see or feel over the next, over the next week until our, the next time we get together and talk. Lily: Course, yes, that's our bad, we need to, we'll have more prepared for next time. KwaiiSandbag: I'm sorry, this was kinda uh, I was not prepared, this was not our A Game. Chris: It's alright, it's alright I'm just, I'm somewhat on A game but I'm not totally perfect either. Whoop de doo it's all good. Lily: Yeah cancel that. Well Christine, you have a good night. Chris: Yeah well y'all have a good night too, take care.
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Interview with KwaiiSandbag
On the same day that the calls were released, KwaiiSandbag was interviewed over Discord by Anaxis, the owner of the Official CWCki Server, about his interactions with Chris and his manipulation tactics. This interview was released a few days later, along with screenshots of KwaiiSandbag's chats with Chris, on 23 March 2021. KwaiiSandbag's messages are color-coded blue, and Anaxis's messages are color-coded orange.
Contacting Chris
| So, when did you first get into contact with Chris, and how? |
| on february 6th she posted a picture asking for psychic help on instagram. I thought maybe I could do some good by posing as a psychic and nudging her into a normal life. |
| on february 9th to my surprise she responded to my instagram dm |
| if you want I can also send screenshots of all discord and insta chats |
| Sure, that'd be helpful |
| [KwaiiSandbag sends numerous screenshots] |
| a friend of mine who also felt bad about chrischan, helped out on 3 of the calls. her name is lily. |
| I mean this when I say this, I had no foul intentions, I just want chris chan to have as normal as a life as possible, and if there was something that I could do, I think i did it |
| I see |
| This is a lot of stuff |
| yes ik how meticulous the cwcki is when it comes to this stuff |
| For sure |
Influencing Chris
| Did you influence Chris to do anything particular during this period in which you were talking? |
| Did Chris add any lore that you suggested? |
| Well for starters, I helped get chris back into her body |
| she kept talking about merlin and how she was born hundreds of years ago. |
| and i dont fully remember but there was some talk about how she became barbs child |
| i also tried to make sure that she and barb were going to get the covid vaccine |
| Yeah, that all lines up with some of the stuff Chris shared over the last few weeks |
| yeah |
KwaiiSandbag's Goals
| You said your end goal was to try and help Chris towards a normal life, right? |
| yes |
| What were you doing to try and achieve that goal? |
| try and make it seem like maybe seeing a therapist or saving money might be good and using fake psychic powers to make it like I knew what I was talking about |
| And did Chris listen to any of your advice on that front? |
| unfortunately i dont think so, but I think it was my push that helped her stop the sonichu delusion |
Ending the Sonichu Roleplay
| What did you do that you think ended the Sonichu roleplay? |
| I just said maybe christine should be in her body for her birthday, and sure enough, she was |
| she made a public annoucement the next day as well so it lines up |
| Interesting. Is this in the voice call collection? |
| yeas |
| Cool |
Chris's Drinking and Smoking Habits
| Did Chris share any interesting information with you that was new, or previously unknown to the public? Regarding her life, or merge lore, etc? |
| She confirmed that she drinks heavily sometimes and has smoked weed before idk if that was confirmed but i asked a question about psychedelics and she said "like weed" |
| Lol, gotcha |
| Drinks heavily, huh? Did she specify what kind of drinks? And how often? |
| like a lot of beers and she said like once every few weeks but like for someone who denounced alcohol in the past that seems like often |
| For sure |
| Don't suppose Chris specified the brand? |
| no she just claimed to have a very high alcohol tolerance and that was that no branding unfortunately |
| Interesting, okay. |
End of KwaiiSandbag's Involvement
| I'm assuming that you posting all this info means that you and your friend (Lily) are no longer in contact with Chris? |
| yes she stopped responding last week and unadded lily on discord |
| What caused the relationship to end? |
| I have no idea, it just kind of ended. I tried to make another call session and she never responded, and frankly i did not think I could help anymore |
| And when was that? |
| march 11th |
| Gotcha. |
| Alright, those are all the questions I have for now. I'll listen to the audio recordings. |
| Thanks for chatting. |
Coming Clean
| I needed to come clean |
| before this officially ends |
| i dont think what she said is true but here it is |
Confirming the Call Dates
Upon being asked on 21 March, KwaiiSandbag also confirmed the dates that each call took place on.
| Interview Screenshots |
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KwaiiSandbag's DMs with Chris
The Discord DMs center around KwaiiSandbag, Lily and Chris trying to schedule their calls, with KwaiiSandbag getting annoyed at Chris's flakiness at times.
The Instagram DMs show KwaiiSandbag's bait to lure Chris, in the form of a tale on how he acquired psychic powers, which Chris fell for. At the conclusion, KwaiiSandbag admitted he made up his claims to be psychic, and Chris acts like he had known the whole time to save face.
| KwaiiSandbag's Chats with Chris |
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Interview with Lily
On 26 March 2021, Anaxis interviewed Lily, the person who participated in the last 3 calls, and was part of the group chat with KwaiiSandbag and Chris, about their involvement in the affair. This interview would be released a few days later, on 29 March. Lily's messages are color-coded magenta, and Anaxis's are color-coded orange.
Lily's Role
| What was your role when talking to Chris? Who or what did you present yourself as? |
| My role was essentially sandbag’s “psychic understudy” of sorts |
| His apprentice I guess, I presented myself as if I had recently discovered my innate psychic powers but was inexperienced with them |
Coordination (or lack thereof)
| Did you and Sandbag ever coordinate what you were going to say to or talk with Chris about before beginning your calls? |
| Not really, we kind of just winged it. Sometimes I would text him to see if I could/should ask something, and we had a couple things to ask/“psychic” stunts to pull that never came to fruition |
Lily's Aims
| What were your personal aims in talking to Chris? What did you hope to accomplish? |
| To be honest, it was pure curiosity. I had no ill intentions towards Chris, but I wouldn’t say it was out of wanting to help. I realize now it was probably not the best thing to do, but I don’t really feel guilty about it |
| I had no idea how bad chris’ mental state was |
| I hadn’t paid attention to Chris for a few years prior |
| So you were basically just along for the ride that Sandbag had set up? Because he explicitly stated that he wanted to help Chris. |
| Essentially yes. I can’t speak for Sandbag’s intentions but there was definitely an element of us just thinking it was kind of funny |
| Ultimately though I think we did help her get out of the sonichu bs |
| But it definitely wasn’t just pure wanting to help her on either of our part |
How the Relationship Ended
| What do you think caused the relationship with Chris to end? |
| I’m not sure. It might have been us not entirely being prepared for the fifth call, and Chris getting suspicious because of that |
| I noticed Chris started to become more flakey and unresponsive after she “returned” to her body |
| Sandbag said that one day, it just "ended" and that Chris unadded you on Discord. |
| I also noticed Chris started becoming more flakey and unresponsive to us after she “returned” to her body |
| Yes. We had the fifth call and then a few days later asked to schedule another one |
| We got no response and then I checked and saw Chris unadded me |
| Do you think it was because of Chris's suspicion of you guys? |
| Either that or she got whatever she wanted from us and lost interest |
| I definitely don’t think Chris knew the whole time. That’s total nonsense |
| Interview Screenshots |
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References
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/m8yt8t/my_personal_chrischan_interactions_over_the_past/grk34bn/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/m8yt8t/my_personal_chrischan_interactions_over_the_past/ (Archive: https://archive.fo/BCzTh)
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