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{{Protip|Once again, it is advised that you do not contact Chris in any way. The users of [[Kiwi Farms]] monitor Chris's current situation and regularly target [[Enablers]] and [[Weens]], so it is a very bad idea to seek out an audience with him on your own.}}


{{quote|So basically I watched the [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History|genosamuels documentary]] and was like, wouldn't it be cool if I talked to [[Christian Weston Chandler|chris-chan]]? so i reached out via [[instagram]] dms claiming to be a psychic and she believed me. Next thing I know im helping coax her "back to [[reality]]" and [[Spirit possession|get "sonichu" out of chris chans body]]. Enjoy I guess.|KwaiiSandbag's introduction.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/m8yt8t/my_personal_chrischan_interactions_over_the_past/grk34bn/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>}}
{{quote|So basically I watched the [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History|genosamuels documentary]] and was like, wouldn't it be cool if I talked to [[Christian Weston Chandler|chris-chan]]? so i reached out via [[instagram]] dms claiming to be a psychic and she believed me. Next thing I know im helping coax her "back to [[reality]]" and [[Spirit possession|get "sonichu" out of chris chans body]]. Enjoy I guess.|KwaiiSandbag's introduction.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/m8yt8t/my_personal_chrischan_interactions_over_the_past/grk34bn/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>}}


'''KwaiiSandbag''' is an [[enabler]] who pretended to be a psychic to [[Chris and manipulation|influence]] Chris. KwaiiSandbag initially reached out to Chris through Instagram after watching ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'', and this effort resulted in a series of conversations that would convince Chris to stop LARPing as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]. On one hand, this allowed Chris to overcome one of his many [[Chris and coping|maladaptive coping mechanisms]], but on the other, it demonstrated how easy it is for someone to reach out to him to manipulate him further, even with groups of [[white knight]]s like the [[Watchmen]] trying to "protect" Chris from this kind of thing. It also demonstrates how bringing more attention to Chris can lead to an increase in these sorts of interactions.
'''KwaiiSandbag''' is an [[enabler]] who pretended to be a psychic to [[Chris and manipulation|influence]] Chris. KwaiiSandbag initially reached out to Chris through Instagram after watching ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'' just for fun, but this effort resulted in a series of conversations that would convince Chris to stop LARPing as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]. KwaiiSandbag, upon being confronted by outside parties explaining why Chris should not be directly contacted, eventually expressed remorse for his actions. Around the same time, he came clean with Chris by revealing that he was not actually a psychic as he had claimed, which Chris acted like he knew all along (when he very clearly did not, as otherwise he wouldn't have been tricked into giving up his pretense of being a fictional character).
 
On one hand, this intervention was a somewhat positive experience for Chris in that it unwittingly allowed him to overcome one of his many [[Chris and coping|maladaptive coping mechanisms]], but on the other, it demonstrated how easy it is for someone to reach out to him to manipulate him further, even with groups of [[white knight]]s like the [[Watchmen]] trying to "protect" Chris from this kind of thing, and may inspire future [[weening]] as a result. It also demonstrates how bringing more attention to Chris, even with good intentions for doing so, can lead to an increase in these sorts of interactions.


Multiple voice chats were released by KwaiiSandbag on 20 March 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/m8yt8t/my_personal_chrischan_interactions_over_the_past/ (Archive: https://archive.fo/BCzTh)</ref>
Multiple voice chats were released by KwaiiSandbag on 20 March 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/m8yt8t/my_personal_chrischan_interactions_over_the_past/ (Archive: https://archive.fo/BCzTh)</ref>


==Highlights==
==Highlights==
* During his role-play of [[body swap]]ping with [[imaginary friend]] Sonichu, Chris believed he used Sonichu's body to have sex with his spouses [[Polyamorous marriage|Magichan, Cryzel, Sylvana, and Mewtew]].
* During his role-play of [[body swap]]ping with [[imaginary friend]] Sonichu, Chris believed he used Sonichu's body to have sex with his spouses [[Polyamorous marriage|Magi-Chan, Cryzel, Sylvana, and Mewtwo]].
 
* While under that body swap delusion, Chris felt more fulfilled in his imaginary relationships.
* While under that body swap delusion, Chris felt more fulfilled in his imaginary relationships.
 
* Chris is lonely in the real-world dimension and expects [[Magi-Chan]] to cross over to this dimension soon so they can physically be together.
* Chris is lonely in the real-world dimension and expects [[Magi-chan]] to cross over to this dimension soon so they can physically be together.
* Chris has [[Praetor|a group of local friends]] which he will meet again soon. He considers one of these local friends for a potential relationship, but is more certain that Magi-Chan will be coming sooner than that.
 
* Chris appears to be seeking [[validation]] that Magi-Chan is coming.
* Chris has [[Praetor|a group of local friends]] which he will meet again soon. He considers one of these local friends for a potential relationship, but is more certain that Magi-chan will be coming soon than that.
 
* Chris appears to be seeking [[validation]] that Magichan is coming.


==Call 1==
==Call 1==
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| name          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #1
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|vyommm9EBFI}}
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|vyommm9EBFI}}
| Stardate      = 20 March 2021
| Stardate      = 10 February 2021
| Featuring      =
| Featuring      =
| previous      = N/A
| previous      = N/A
| next          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #2
| next          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #2
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===Call 1 transcript===
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<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> So, how can I help you?
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> So, how can I help you?


<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Eh, well, I'm trying to figure out answers to many questions like, you know, this body has a great amount of superpowers and overpowers and I've been meditating on everything and it's been meaning this body is destined to go literally physically fully safely hopefully into our sister dimension which has all... all the OCs and FCs, original characters, fictional characters including those the likes of Sonichu, Superman, Donald Duck, Iron Man, so on and so forth.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Eh, well, I'm trying to figure out answers to many questions like, you know, this body has a great amount of superpowers and overpowers and I've been meditating on everything and it's been meaning this body is destined to go literally physically fully safely hopefully into [[Dimensions#C-197|our sister dimension]] which has all... all the [[OC|OCs and FCs]], original characters, fictional characters including those the likes of Sonichu, Superman, Donald Duck, Iron Man, so on and so forth.


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes, um, so I think what would be very beneficial is if we did a meditation session together.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes, um, so I think what would be very beneficial is if we did a meditation session together.
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of this body for well over 10 months now
of this body for well over 10 months now


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And I believe this had something to do with the cancellation of BABScon, is that correct?
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And I believe this had something to do with the cancellation of [[BABSCon]], is that correct?


<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Uh, partially yeah. It's a whole long story I'm not sure how to shorten it out and summarize it.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Uh, partially yeah. It's a whole long story I'm not sure how to shorten it out and summarize it.
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<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, I'm sitting on the bed in the downstairs bedroom and um I have my ... I have my lovely wife Rosie Rosechu next to me and then the... and then the Chris in my body is sitting on the bed as well on one corner.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, I'm sitting on the bed in the downstairs bedroom and um I have my ... I have my lovely wife Rosie Rosechu next to me and then the... and then the Chris in my body is sitting on the bed as well on one corner.


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Ah, okay cool. So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to project myself into Virginia, into Ruckersville
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Ah, okay cool. So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to project myself into Virginia, into Ruckersville.


<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Ok, you wanna specify on 14 Branchland Court, there's a gazebo in the backyard that we believe is a dimensional vortex that we're still working on developing, but this essentially this house is a temple.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Ok, you wanna specify on [[14 Branchland Court]], there's a gazebo in the backyard that we believe is a dimensional vortex that we're still working on developing, but this essentially this house is a temple.


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes, I see, i can see it now, it's very um, I can see there's there's there's cars out front. I can see... you're... it's your mother is in the house.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes, I see, i can see it now, it's very um, I can see there's there's there's cars out front. I can see... you're... it's your mother is in the house.
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<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I see...
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I see...
   
   
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I've... I've never heard of this place before but it might mean something to you... Fashion Square?
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I've... I've never heard of this place before but it might mean something to you... [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|Fashion Square]]?


<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, that's shopping mall in Charlottesville
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, that's shopping mall in Charlottesville


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And the name Michael.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And the name [[Michael Snyder|Michael]].


<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Michael Snyder, yep. Uh, he that was a short... long story short... came into my place, Chris used to go there for Pokemon trading card games like Yu-Gi-Oh! and there were a bunch of disconcerns [''sic''] and disagreements between Snyder and Chris, so eventually he banned her and then there was the [''unintelligible''] and trespassing notices and yah de yah de ya wait for her to come back so a trap was set and then jail and then those lawsuits, and that didn't end well for either of... for any party within that.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Michael Snyder, yep. Uh, he that was a short... long story short... came into my place, Chris used to [[The GAMe PLACe|go there]] for Pokemon trading card games like Yu-Gi-Oh! and there were [[The_GAMe_PLACe#The_Charlottesville_Incident|a bunch of disconcerns [''sic''] and disagreements between Snyder and Chris]], so eventually he banned her and then there was the [''unintelligible''] and trespassing notices and yah de yah de ya wait for her to come back so a trap was set and then jail and then those lawsuits, and that didn't end well for either of... for any party within that.


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes.
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<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And what was Chris's past life?
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And what was Chris's past life?


<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font>: Well, long story short, back in uh... back shortly after the big bang, she was a resident of the planet Kiasuna within the Andromeda System, she was a princess and she was exiled, got transferred from over there to Earth, and uh, while she was still the same universe she ended up having powers that were well above anybody else that were in the norm at the time, and this was shortly after the meteor hit and made the dinosaurs extinct. And she was essentially immortal, so she ended up also making friends with the deities along the way and eventually she met Merlin during medieval times and then after... yeah after Merlin split the two universes. Eventually Chris changed the composition of her body and put herself into crystal and shot herself from within... later that year and went throughout various far reaches of space times and universes, and ended up also going through... flying herself to far chaotic rainbow of 2197 in 2003 thus giving her her Sonichu form and electrical resistance and fur and better abilities on that and then eventually going back in time to 1218 and then being born in 1982. Her birthday's on February 24th.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font>: Well, long story short, back in uh... back shortly after the big bang, she was a resident of the planet [[Kidasuna]] within the Andromeda System, she was a princess and she was exiled, got transferred from over there to Earth, and uh, while she was still the same universe she ended up having powers that were well above anybody else that were in the norm at the time, and this was shortly after the meteor hit and made the dinosaurs extinct. And she was essentially immortal, so she ended up also making friends with the deities along the way and eventually she met Merlin during medieval times and then after... yeah after Merlin split the two universes. Eventually Chris changed the composition of her body and put herself into crystal and shot herself from within... later that year and went throughout various far reaches of space times and universes, and ended up also going through... flying herself to far chaotic rainbow of 2197 in 2003 thus giving her her Sonichu form and electrical resistance and fur and better abilities on that and then eventually going back in time to 1218 and [[Chris's_birthday#.22Christian_Love_Day.22|then being born in 1982]]. Her birthday's on February 24th.


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Well happy early birthday!
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Well happy early birthday!
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<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Good night.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Good night.


[''Christine disconnects'']
[''Chris disconnects'']


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> You can unmute.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> You can unmute.
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| name          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #2
| name          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #2
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|7yt2PIvYI_8}}
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|7yt2PIvYI_8}}
| Stardate      = 20 March 2021
| Stardate      = 14 February 2021
| Featuring      =
| Featuring      =
| previous      = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #1
| previous      = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #1
| next          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #3
| next          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #3
}}  
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===Call 2 transcript===
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| <font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> C'mon, pick up, pick up, pick up, pick up. Can see you online... bruh.
 
[''Chris picks up the call'']
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Hello?
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Hey.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Hey, how are you doin'?
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Doin' alright, how about you?
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Umm, I'm good.
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> [''sigh''] So, I feel- I feel like I have energy, and uh- uh, and I can do this tonight, so...
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> That's great.
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> So we'll do the meditate session and- like we did last time, essept hopefully I'll find out some more answers about the powers and abilities that I can do from this thing that can be manifested on this side of the iron curtain, in this universe.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Mhm. [''pause''] Sooo, let's start again like last time; let's dim the lights.
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, the li- yep, I turned the lamp off.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Great. [''pause''] Okay, so let's start with some deep breathing... in through the nose, out through the mouth. [''pause''] Now, what is it, exactly, that we're trying to see here?
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well... obviously these hands are able to do- a whole number of things, they can ashully hea- help heal others.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> How so?
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I can put my hand- I can put my hand on somebody- the shoulder of somebody who's feeling pain, and I can ta- I can make- I can take the pain. But they're not feeling it, but them I feel- but this body feels a mild amount of that pain.
|}
 
==Call 3==
==Call 3==
{{Infobox/Audiofile
{{Infobox/Audiofile
| name          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #3
| name          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #3
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|MvCret3n10s}}
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|MvCret3n10s}}
| Stardate      = 20 March 2021
| Stardate      = 20 February 2021
| Featuring      =
| Featuring      =
| previous      = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #2
| previous      = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #2
| next          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #4
| next          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #4
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===Call 3 transcript===
 
==Call 4==
==Call 4==
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| name          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #4
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|_VYB5_7ZfXw}}
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|_VYB5_7ZfXw}}
| Stardate      = 20 March 2021
| Stardate      = 1 March 2021
| Featuring      =
| Featuring      =
| previous      = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #3
| previous      = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #3
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===Selected transcriptions===
===Call 4 Selected transcriptions===
'''1:05 timestamp'''
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Hello.


<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Aside from that… pretty much everything has been... I came back last Wednesday at 10:30 when [[Spirit possession|Sonichu and I fatedly return body swapped]] and I’m still resyncing with my body and having to deal with my body… and it’s been really bumming me out because it hardly… cause I was unable to get a satisfying relationship in this universe and then he’s jealous of me because while I was swapped in Sonichu’s body, I literally had sex with Magichan, Cryzel, Sylvana, even Mewtwo. So there’s all that and now it’s given me a bit of a pain in the heart like as if I’ve gotten a broken heart all over again and it’s affecting me in the heart and Solar Plexus chakra as well”.
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Hello!


<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I know it's a little hard right now because of [[COVID-19|Covid]]... have you tried going out into the world and trying to find a new relationship?
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Hi.
 
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Hello.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> How are- how are you doing?
 
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Can you hear me? Hold on.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Hello?
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> I can hear you.
 
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> There we go. I can hear you now. Sorry, I don’t know what was going on.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Sorry about that. Sometimes my Discord is weird. Hello.
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Hey.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Um. How are you?
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Well, I’m faring. I definitely could be better, but you know. Big plus today. I mean, really good birthday present.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Oh, what’d you get?
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Ah. Fitbit Blaze.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Very cool.
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Yeah. And it took me a little while to uh… to set it up and obviously swap out the old one. I’m giving it to a friend of mine who’s… can definitely use it. She started running recently.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Mmm. I see.
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Aside from that… pretty much everything has been... I came back last Wednesday about 7:30 when Sonichu and I fatedly return body swapped and I’m still resyncing with my body and having to deal with my body… and it’s been really bumming me out because it hardly… cause I was unable to get a satisfying relationship in this universe and then it’s jealous of me because while I was swapped in Sonichu’s body, I literally had sex with Magichan, Cryzel, Sylvana, even Mewtwo. So there’s all that and now it’s given me a bit of a pain in the heart like as if I’ve gotten a broken heart all over again and it’s affecting me in the heart and Solar Plexus chakra as well".
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I know it's a little hard right now because of Covid... but have you tried going out into the world and trying to find a relationship?
 
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, I don’t have much time to look for a new relationship… since we have everything going on with the merge going on so… unless something fated happens in the near future amongst my local friends who actually I will be seeing again in the near future... Unless that happens then… more likely Magichan will be coming here and becoming fully physical. He'll be coming here to this universe - and I've been guiding him here. My body is fully into this and I'm supporting it obviously because I want him with me as well.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes. Now, tell me about these friends you keep mentioning. I’m very curious.
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Uh… They are our allies at… at this company called [[Praetor]]. It's a small business. They've uh… they've been making the medallions on my behalf and we're working on getting the books and even the [[Shipfic|Shipfic Folder]] cards for Sonichu up and- up and available and printed and all that.
 
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Oh wow. That's really cool.
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> So business partners and friends with a bit of psyc- with a bit of psychic powers amongst them as well. But as… as my hubby says, uh… it's good to have multiple viewpoints, so it's good to have multiple psychics and we've been trying to get to round up as many psychics in this universe as possible to, uh… help figure these things out on this- on this side of the, uh, dimension rift and all that.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Mhm. Now, I have- I have a question about your time in C-197.
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Okay.
 
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Do you have any, uh, notable psychic experiences that happened? I'm- I'm a little bit curious, like, or just any experiences that are noteworthy from C-197.
 
<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Well, even though it was Sonichu's body, I had access to my abilities since I'm just- since I'm essentially the soul. I got the- I got everything within me in general so I was able to manifest that out through Sonichu’s body and hands easily enough. So I end up over the 10 months and 24 days time giving him a bit of psychic power of his own that he's been able to utilize lately that he's still getting used to and feeling pretty positive about that. So yeah just- I mean, what hasn't happened with the, uh, psychic powers over there with me?


<font color="blue">'''Chris:'''</font color> Yeah, I don’t have much time to look for a new relationship… since we have everything going on with the [[merge]] going on so… unless something fated happens in the near future amongst my local friends who actually I will be seeing again in the near future... Unless that happens then… more likely [[Magi-Chan|Magichan]] will be coming here and becoming fully physical. He'll be coming here to this universe - and I've been guiding him here. And I'm supporting it obviously because I want him with me as well.


'''10:52 timestamp'''
'''10:52 timestamp'''
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| name          = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #5
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| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|hL3wLJLVIgA}}
| Stardate      = 20 March 2021
| Stardate      = 9 March 2021
| Featuring      =
| Featuring      =
| previous      = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #4
| previous      = Chris Chan Psychic Chat #4
| next          = N/A
| next          = N/A
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===Call 5 transcript===
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|<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Oh hello, um, sorry about that, uh little bit of a communication issue, uh Lily's- getting out of the shower right now so it'll be a second for her, but I'm here.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> OK. How are you doing?
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I'm great, how are you?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I feel pretty good.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Had a good week?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well, improving, things have been improving I feel better.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Well it's good to hear.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I'm starting to figure out my powers, um, working, i'm working, my conscious brain is starting to figure out these powers for real, at least for, in terms of this universe.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I see.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> And, uh... And uh essentially pretty much I was told that, i was told by you know everybody in from C-197 just you know Magi-Chan, MewTwo, and what not, they tell me i need to definitely meditate and search within myself a whole bunch.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And have you done that?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, I'm doing that I still have a lot more soul- a lot more in depth work to do but making good progress. And I also went out today, I went to the uh, I went down to Ivy Creek Nature Area and walked a lap around and uh stopped by the creek, had a meditate, sit on the big ol rock and put my feet in the water.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And how did that feel?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> It was cold, but it was good. Felt alive.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> That's good to hear.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> So yeah, uh among that's also a part of, aspect of reconnecting with nature.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> So... What have you been thinking about over the past week?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> [''sighs''] Hard, it's hard to say off hand but just thinking about everything and of course the dimension merge, everybody and real, and, just reanalyzing the situation in myself, and present, and so on so forth. [''loud hoot'']
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> It's a lot of brain work.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes, I can definitely understand that.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> But yeah, I mean it's- it's not as much brain work as y'know projecting myself so much and being in another universe a lot of the time. And doing all that work.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yes. So, speaking of doing a lot of work, so while you were in C-197 I understand you caught up on comic book pages and uh, stuff like that. When do you think that's gonna be released?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well considering all those books are in C-197, I'd say... post-dimension merge? In the very near future.
[''pause'']
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> So...
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Because i'm still unlocking my- I'm still unlocking my powers for this universe, which will shortly- shortly enough be fully tangible and work, well to where I can barely do a show for everybody, be like hey I can do this I can do that. [''unintelligible'']
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yeah have you thought about like uploading a youtube video or something on Twitter?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Hmm, yes I have thought about it, but- but the way my powers manifest in my universe at this point? It's like they're- they're more tangible in feeling so it's like you'd have to be right here in person to feel it or you'd have to be so sensitive that you had to view it and actually see it if I were to record a video.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Well... I would know what you're doing and I'm sure other psychics out there if they watched it would be able to feel the energy coming from it so I don't really see the harm in uploading a video of you trying to manifest something.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> We'll take that under consideration and think about that further.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yeah.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I'm also figuring out my other self mental blocks, so I can dispose of them and get them out of the way.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Well why don't you tell me about those?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well, the obvious one the fact that I was born high functioning autistic, I mostly got over that.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> And how did you get over that?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Just, pretty much...
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Sorry- sorry I'm late, I just got out of the shower. Uh hello?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Hey there.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Hey there Christine, sorry about that.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> We're talking about uh, kind of roadblocks in Christine's life, and how she's gotten over them.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> I see ok, sorry sorry.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well not, it's not- it's mostly various and whatnot but it's really about um, trying to think. Right here I have the term written down, it's essentially- oh yeah, essentially just trying to clear away any remaining self judgements and self criticisms...
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> So there's that. Anyways, just been doing- anyway to catch you up I've been doing a lot of further self-examining and uh... certain... meditating looking more into myself as opposed to outward.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Mhmm.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> And I also took a nature walk today and meditated on a big ol rock, dipped my feet in the flowing river. It's cold! But it felt alive and it felt great.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> That's really wonderful. I understand the uh- was this- this involved the gazebo? Is that part of your nature walk? It's kinda an interdimensional rift? Is that what it is, I'm sorry.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well the gazebo in the backyard is uh, it's kinda- it's kinda like a beacon or a kind of a link between the two universes as well, but, in reference to earlier I was talking about today I went to a nature area.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Oh, alright.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I walked a big ol lap around there, down and up hills.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> That's great, that's really great I feel like, I mean like uh, I think it's the same for you, kinda your psychic energy, spiritual energy really gets awakened when you're in these kinda nature settings.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, but it's also, I've realized and learned recently that my uh, both my root and sacral chakras, they need a heavy amount of recharging, cause all my energy is just in between my third and crown and soul star chakra points. So those are like overcharged.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Mhmm.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> So i've taken, conscious ability to redirect energy from the higher chakra points down to the lower one, the excess energy.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> So, I saw on Twitter today that you posted about the amount of willpower it takes to manifest something in this dimension.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> And it's not brainpower, it's not willpower but...
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Yeah, physical power.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Do you mind telling us, like, exactly how much power that takes?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Uh... Well, you're psychics, you should know!
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> That is very true, but... sometimes it's good to hear a second opinion.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> It is good to hear a second opinion, anyways. Um, anyway yeah, just, well it takes massive amounts and obviously my brain is overpowered along with all my other abilities, along with the rest of my body and everything. But it still gets very tiring.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Mhmm.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> So... Lily do you have anything to ask?
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Uh, sorry I'm just still kind of uh, kind of spaced out from the- just got out of the shower, was just doing my evening routine, uh let me think. Hmm.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, I'm kinda feeling in spacing, zoning, in and out myself right now.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Very interesting, maybe it's, uh something connecting all of us in our spacing.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, the... it's definitely connected with the dimension merge or as I heard somebody else call it, um... Darn it, that word stayed there but...eh.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Yeah I definitely think it's probably like a- a mind merge, like the dimensions haven't fully merged yet but our consciousness might be uh- kinda phasing in and out of between in the dimensions.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah that's what we're doing it uh...
[''pause'']
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Hmm, so...
[''pause'']
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I'm sorry I'm like a little tired.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> I'm a little tired too. I'm just... I'm trying to think of this word, but anyway yeah dimension merge, EVERYBODY who is psychic um, magic, or just at least that level- that high level sensitive, they're, i mean we all are feeling this, so yeah. And we're all in this together so everybody's at least doing their, at least a little bit, if not a massive amount. Among, the levels I've done, jeeze.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Good to know that we're not alone. Good.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah. It's a shame that we can't actually show this to some- some regular mental... uh neurotypical type of person who's like, hey come on manifest something in front of us. But then it's like, I'm SO difficulty doing it in this universe.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Did you find in the um, C-197, it came- manifesting came with a lot greater ease due to the magic that was lost?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, it's a lot easier there.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Can even uh... sorry that was uh- I was gonna say could even non-magical people do it, but everyone's magical there, my bad.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Eh. I think it's uh, mostly psychics and magic types, and then also creative types who write, draw, and so forth, that have explored C-197, at least in their imaginations and whatnot. It's like in essence ___ vs. sonichu, where the- where [''unclear, timestamp 11:50''] and Courtney end up writing things into effect while they were in dimension, I mean universe N641 with essence to get out of that massive dimension merge which mistakenly did that to allllllll of the other universes, as opposed to just the two, the two neighbouring.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Right, and there's- there's an infinite number of universes, according to the multiverse and all that.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yes.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> So is it just C-137's merging or is it every universe that's merging?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> It's just, it's just 1218 and C-197.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Gotcha, I'm sorry, mixing em up. Um... So will the rest join at one time, or are these the only two that are fated to join?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Uh, most of the other pairs of universes within all the other dimensions, they have merged.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Mmm. So we're behind-
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> So this pair, our pair of universes here is amongst the last- amongst of the last to be.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Right. So we're kinda behind the trends, everyone else is already merging and we're behind all of them.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, but in a sense it's a good thing because all the- cause like Magi-Chan and MewTwo they were able to observe into the other dimensions and universes, those that were- did merge and were able to see and witness it as it happened, what events happened that led to that eventuality in there so they could make that- so we could get that in similar effect to what we have here within this timeline between our pair of universes.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Right, right. And that'll- you know we can kinda be more prepared and not um...
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> That's the deal!
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Repeat mistakes that maybe other, other pairs have made.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah like for an obvious example, one time in a- in a distant dimension uh essentially, Sonichu Prime there uh just usurped the powers and abilities from his respective Chris-Chan and took over a Chris, that Chris-Chan's world. And that did not work out at all. And then obviously another one where that Chris-Chan was just all dark magic, dark powers as opposed to light magic and light powered and that didn't work out either.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Was that- did that Chris-Chan turn evil or just uh?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> That's, yep, yeah.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Wow, have you had any- obviously not physical, but spiritual encounters with this version?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Uh, I've, yeah, I've encountered uh, just pretty much nearly all of my other self counterparts between all the other dimensions and universes and timelines. And of course I have a bunch of self counterparts in C-197.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Are you friends with any of them? I understand- no- they can't all be bad.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, I'm friends and acquaintances and uh, you know neutral relationships on uh, with the majority of them, so we kind of have uhh, neutral to good vibes for the most part between each other, as a group.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Right.
[''pause'']
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Anyways, so what have y'all been feeling lately? Seeing...
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I've been seeing a lot of energy in Virginia, and I'm pretty sure that's you. Uhh, just generally like manifesting and um, kind of bringing together, you know? And... I don't know, I remember we talked last week about relationships and um, stuff like that, has anything happened with that?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Um, yeah a bit of a- bit of progress on that um...
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Oh really?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah I managed to get a little bit of a further understanding in that from uh, my further internal self exploration I still need to uh, estab... things like when I would be desired... for such satisfaction from a part... from a partner if not Magi-Chan that would manifest herself within this universe.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> And you're looking for a girl, a female so not...
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well my body is yeah, but also on that note I've learned that the important key is self love. Because if i love myself the way I would want my partner to love me so I can have all that figured out then that would attract... that aspect would attract the other person. It's like uh, you're programming a magnet to, with these certain qualities to attract this type of individual and then eventually when you get all the details sorted out then [''Chris whoops'']
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> You know what you want it's easier to manifest it. You gotta know exactly what you're looking for, um.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> So I understand um, Magi-Chan is polyamorous, in a polyamourous relationship correct?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, I'm there uh, yeah between me, Magi-Chan, Cryzel Rosechu, Silvana Rosechu and the one and only MewTwo that was cloned in Giovanni's lab, we're all married together, the 5 of us.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> It's not um, it's not those are just Magi-Chan's partners and you all share each other?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah, we all share each other and uh, yeah it's a very good and it's also open relationships for any other explorations to... cause considering heavy psychic power types this particular arrangement and extradimensional at least in Cryzel's case, so yeah there's all that. So yeah it's polyamourous and I just feel like this is a good fit for me and it allows me room to still... I mean especially in this universe if not Magi-Chan finds somebody who can actually satisfy my body's physical needs so with- my realization that I need self love I managed to find within my abilities the healing energy to where I could actually instill the positive feelings of that particular type of satisfactory love upon myself so that I could make my body feel better.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Right, that's great and then the [''clears throat''] that's also great to hear about polyamourous relationship works, cause I understand that with a lot of people who are in poly relationships, uh if it's kind of you're not sharing all the partners there can be a lot of jealousy and self-resentment so that's a good way to avoid that.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Have you had any difficulties with that, with the uh, polyamory, or uh, I understood a lot of people need counselling, go to support groups for that, or have you been fine with it?
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Uh, we've met- we've gotten along for the most part, and we've adapted- and I mean considering you're in a group, considering we're a group of psychic types pretty much, it's like we...
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Much deeper connection.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> We have a deeper connection yes. And we work to get a little better, you know if you look on Amazon Prime there's a kinda like a psuedo, hang on, okay there's a psuedo softcore porn documentary type of show called Polyamory, and it explores couples in polyamorous relationships, there's two seasons. I believe it aired on Cinemax or HBO but it's on Amazon Prime.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Right, OK, I might check that out, honestly- personally I'm, I suppose my psyche abilities have not developed to the point where I could be ok with the polyamourous relationship, I feel like I have too many insecurities and stuff like that, but I do suspect that once I kind of ascend further I might be able to engage in that sort of thing.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well, at least you're interested so that's a good- so that's good.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Yeah, it's uh, I think it's very important for... Um, what's it called, you know kind of strengthening psychic bonds, you know the more love you have in your life the more powerful it becomes.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah. I agree.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> Now, I unfortunately... will have to cut it short very soon because I have to schedule something for tomorrow, but um, is there anything else that we wanna talk about before...
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Well I guess I'm mostly good for now, but yeah, both of y'all keep your, keep opening you know thoughts as much as you both see or feel over the next, over the next week until our, the next time we get together and talk.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Course, yes, that's our bad, we need to, we'll have more prepared for next time.
<font color="green">'''KwaiiSandbag:'''</font color> I'm sorry, this was kinda uh, I was not prepared, this was not our A Game.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> It's alright, it's alright I'm just, I'm somewhat on A game but I'm not totally perfect either. Whoop de doo it's all good.
<font color="#FF1493">'''Lily:'''</font> Yeah cancel that. Well Christine, you have a good night.
<font color="#0033FF">'''Chris:'''</font> Yeah well y'all have a good night too, take care.
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==Interview with KwaiiSandbag==
On the same day that the calls were released, KwaiiSandbag was interviewed over [[Discord]] by [[User:Anaxis|Anaxis]], the owner of the Official CWCki Server, about his interactions with Chris and his manipulation tactics. This interview was released a few days later, along with screenshots of KwaiiSandbag's chats with Chris, on 23 March 2021. KwaiiSandbag's messages are color-coded blue, and Anaxis's messages are color-coded orange.
===Contacting Chris===
{{quoteboxorange|So, when did you first get into contact with Chris, and how?}}
{{quotebox|on february 6th she posted a picture asking for psychic help on [[Instagram|instagram]]. I thought maybe I could do some good by posing as a psychic and nudging her into a normal life.}}
{{quotebox|on february 9th to my surprise she responded to my instagram dm}}
{{quotebox|if you want I can also send screenshots of all discord and insta chats}}
{{quoteboxorange|Sure, that'd be helpful}}
{{quotebox|''[KwaiiSandbag sends numerous screenshots]''}}
{{quotebox|a friend of mine who also felt bad about chrischan, helped out on 3 of the calls. her name is lily.}}
{{quotebox|I mean this when I say this, I had no foul intentions, I just want chris chan to have as normal as a life as possible, and if there was something that I could do, I think i did it}}
{{quoteboxorange|I see}}
{{quoteboxorange|This is a lot of stuff}}
{{quotebox|yes ik how meticulous the cwcki is when it comes to this stuff}}
{{quoteboxorange|For sure}}
===Influencing Chris===
{{quoteboxorange|Did you influence Chris to do anything particular during this period in which you were talking?}}
{{quoteboxorange|Did Chris add any lore that you suggested?}}
{{quotebox|Well for starters, I helped [[Spirit possession|get chris back into her body]]}}
{{quotebox|she kept talking about merlin and how she was born hundreds of years ago.}}
{{quotebox|and i dont fully remember but there was some talk about how she became barbs child}}
{{quotebox|i also tried to make sure that she and barb were going to get the [[COVID-19|covid]] vaccine}}
{{quoteboxorange|Yeah, that all lines up with [[Thinking with Portals|some of the stuff Chris shared over the last few weeks]]}}
{{quotebox|yeah}}
===KwaiiSandbag's Goals===
{{quoteboxorange|You said your end goal was to try and help Chris towards a normal life, right?}}
{{quotebox|yes}}
{{quoteboxorange|What were you doing to try and achieve that goal?}}
{{quotebox|try and make it seem like maybe seeing a therapist or saving money might be good and using fake psychic powers to make it like I knew what I was talking about}}
{{quoteboxorange|And did Chris listen to any of your advice on that front?}}
{{quotebox|unfortunately i dont think so, but I think it was my push that helped her stop the sonichu delusion}}
===Ending the Sonichu Roleplay===
{{quoteboxorange|What did you do that you think ended the Sonichu roleplay?}}
{{quotebox|I just said maybe christine should be in her body for her [[Chris's birthday|birthday]], and sure enough, she was}}
{{quotebox|she made a public annoucement the next day as well so it lines up}}
{{quoteboxorange|Interesting. Is this in the voice call collection?}}
{{quotebox|yeas}}
{{quoteboxorange|Cool}}
===Chris's Drinking and Smoking Habits===
{{quoteboxorange|Did Chris share any interesting information with you that was new, or previously unknown to the public? Regarding her life, or merge lore, etc?}}
{{quotebox|She confirmed that she drinks heavily sometimes and has smoked [[Weed|weed]] before idk if that was confirmed but i asked a question about psychedelics and she said "like weed"}}
{{quoteboxorange|Lol, gotcha}}
{{quoteboxorange|Drinks heavily, huh? Did she specify what kind of drinks? And how often?}}
{{quotebox|like a lot of [[Reeb|beers]] and she said like once every few weeks but like for someone who denounced alcohol in the past that seems like often}}
{{quoteboxorange|For sure}}
{{quoteboxorange|Don't suppose Chris specified the brand?}}
{{quotebox|no she just claimed to have a very high alcohol tolerance and that was that no branding unfortunately}}
{{quoteboxorange|Interesting, okay.}}
===End of KwaiiSandbag's Involvement===
{{quoteboxorange|I'm assuming that you posting all this info means that you and your friend (Lily) are no longer in contact with Chris?}}
{{quotebox|yes she stopped responding last week and unadded lily on discord}}
{{quoteboxorange|What caused the relationship to end?}}
{{quotebox|I have no idea, it just kind of ended. I tried to make another call session and she never responded, and frankly i did not think I could help anymore}}
{{quoteboxorange|And when was that?}}
{{quotebox|march 11th}}
{{quoteboxorange|Gotcha.}}
{{quoteboxorange|Alright, those are all the questions I have for now. I'll listen to the audio recordings.}}
{{quoteboxorange|Thanks for chatting.}}
===Coming Clean===
{{quotebox|I needed to come clean
[[File:KwaiiSandbagChrisInstagramConvo12.jpg|200px]]}}
{{quotebox|before this officially ends}}
{{quotebox|i dont think what she said is true but here it is
[[File:KwaiiSandbagChrisInstagramConvo13.jpg|200px]]}}
===Confirming the Call Dates===
Upon being asked on 21 March, KwaiiSandbag also confirmed the dates that each call took place on.
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===KwaiiSandbag's DMs with Chris===
[[File:KwaiiSandbag annoyed-min.png|thumb|150px|An excerpt from the Discord DMs.]]
The Discord DMs center around KwaiiSandbag, Lily and Chris trying to schedule their calls, with KwaiiSandbag getting annoyed at Chris's flakiness at times.
The Instagram DMs show KwaiiSandbag's bait to lure Chris, in the form of a tale on how he acquired psychic powers, which Chris fell for. At the conclusion, KwaiiSandbag admitted he made up his claims to be psychic, and Chris acts like he had known the whole time to save face.
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==Interview with Lily==
On 26 March 2021, Anaxis interviewed Lily, the person who participated in the last 3 calls, and was part of the group chat with KwaiiSandbag and Chris, about their involvement in the affair. This interview would be released a few days later, on 29 March. Lily's messages are color-coded magenta, and Anaxis's are color-coded orange.
===Lily's Role===
{{quoteboxorange|What was your role when talking to Chris? Who or what did you present yourself as?}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|My role was essentially sandbag’s “psychic understudy” of sorts}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|His apprentice I guess, I presented myself as if I had recently discovered my innate psychic powers but was inexperienced with them}}
===Coordination (or lack thereof)===
{{quoteboxorange|Did you and Sandbag ever coordinate what you were going to say to or talk with Chris about before beginning your calls?}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|Not really, we kind of just winged it. Sometimes I would text him to see if I could/should ask something, and we had a couple things to ask/“psychic” stunts to pull that never came to fruition}}
===Lily's Aims===
{{quoteboxorange|What were your personal aims in talking to Chris? What did you hope to accomplish?}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|To be honest, it was pure curiosity. I had no ill intentions towards Chris, but I wouldn’t say it was out of wanting to help. I realize now it was probably not the best thing to do, but I don’t really feel guilty about it}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|I had no idea how bad chris’ mental state was}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|I hadn’t paid attention to Chris for a few years prior}}
{{quoteboxorange|So you were basically just along for the ride that Sandbag had set up? Because he explicitly stated that he wanted to help Chris.}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|Essentially yes. I can’t speak for Sandbag’s intentions but there was definitely an element of us just thinking it was kind of funny}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|Ultimately though I think we did help her get out of the sonichu bs}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|But it definitely wasn’t just pure wanting to help her on either of our part}}
===How the Relationship Ended===
{{quoteboxorange|What do you think caused the relationship with Chris to end?}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|I’m not sure. It might have been us not entirely being prepared for the fifth call, and Chris getting suspicious because of that}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|I noticed Chris started to become more flakey and unresponsive after she “returned” to her body}}
{{quoteboxorange|Sandbag said that one day, it just "ended" and that Chris unadded you on Discord.}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|I also noticed Chris started becoming more flakey and unresponsive to us after she “returned” to her body}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|Yes. We had the fifth call and then a few days later asked to schedule another one}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|We got no response and then I checked and saw Chris unadded me}}
{{quoteboxorange|Do you think it was because of Chris's suspicion of you guys?}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|Either that or she got whatever she wanted from us and lost interest}}
{{quoteboxmagenta|I definitely don’t think Chris knew the whole time. That’s total nonsense}}
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January18SonichuBodyswapArt.jpg Delusion disclosure: This article or section takes place during Chris's phase of role-playing as Sonichu. He may refer to his Christine Chandler personality and physical body in the third person by using terms such as "mama".
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PROTIP:

Once again, it is advised that you do not contact Chris in any way. The users of Kiwi Farms monitor Chris's current situation and regularly target Enablers and Weens, so it is a very bad idea to seek out an audience with him on your own.
So basically I watched the genosamuels documentary and was like, wouldn't it be cool if I talked to chris-chan? so i reached out via instagram dms claiming to be a psychic and she believed me. Next thing I know im helping coax her "back to reality" and get "sonichu" out of chris chans body. Enjoy I guess.
KwaiiSandbag's introduction.[1]

KwaiiSandbag is an enabler who pretended to be a psychic to influence Chris. KwaiiSandbag initially reached out to Chris through Instagram after watching Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History just for fun, but this effort resulted in a series of conversations that would convince Chris to stop LARPing as Sonichu. KwaiiSandbag, upon being confronted by outside parties explaining why Chris should not be directly contacted, eventually expressed remorse for his actions. Around the same time, he came clean with Chris by revealing that he was not actually a psychic as he had claimed, which Chris acted like he knew all along (when he very clearly did not, as otherwise he wouldn't have been tricked into giving up his pretense of being a fictional character).

On one hand, this intervention was a somewhat positive experience for Chris in that it unwittingly allowed him to overcome one of his many maladaptive coping mechanisms, but on the other, it demonstrated how easy it is for someone to reach out to him to manipulate him further, even with groups of white knights like the Watchmen trying to "protect" Chris from this kind of thing, and may inspire future weening as a result. It also demonstrates how bringing more attention to Chris, even with good intentions for doing so, can lead to an increase in these sorts of interactions.

Multiple voice chats were released by KwaiiSandbag on 20 March 2021.[2]

Highlights

  • During his role-play of body swapping with imaginary friend Sonichu, Chris believed he used Sonichu's body to have sex with his spouses Magi-Chan, Cryzel, Sylvana, and Mewtwo.
  • While under that body swap delusion, Chris felt more fulfilled in his imaginary relationships.
  • Chris is lonely in the real-world dimension and expects Magi-Chan to cross over to this dimension soon so they can physically be together.
  • Chris has a group of local friends which he will meet again soon. He considers one of these local friends for a potential relationship, but is more certain that Magi-Chan will be coming sooner than that.
  • Chris appears to be seeking validation that Magi-Chan is coming.

Call 1

Chris Chan Psychic Chat #1
Stardate 10 February 2021
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Call 2

Chris Chan Psychic Chat #2
Stardate 14 February 2021
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Chris Chan Psychic Chat #3


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Call 3

Chris Chan Psychic Chat #3
Stardate 20 February 2021
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Chris Chan Psychic Chat #4


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Call 4

Chris Chan Psychic Chat #4
Stardate 1 March 2021
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Call 4 Selected transcriptions

KwaiiSandbag: Hello.

Chris: Hello!

KwaiiSandbag: Hi.

Lily: Hello.

KwaiiSandbag: How are- how are you doing?

Lily: Can you hear me? Hold on.

KwaiiSandbag: Hello?

Chris: I can hear you.

Lily: There we go. I can hear you now. Sorry, I don’t know what was going on.

KwaiiSandbag: Sorry about that. Sometimes my Discord is weird. Hello.

Chris: Hey.

KwaiiSandbag: Um. How are you?

Chris: Well, I’m faring. I definitely could be better, but you know. Big plus today. I mean, really good birthday present.

KwaiiSandbag: Oh, what’d you get?

Chris: Ah. Fitbit Blaze.

KwaiiSandbag: Very cool.

Chris: Yeah. And it took me a little while to uh… to set it up and obviously swap out the old one. I’m giving it to a friend of mine who’s… can definitely use it. She started running recently.

KwaiiSandbag: Mmm. I see.

Chris: Aside from that… pretty much everything has been... I came back last Wednesday about 7:30 when Sonichu and I fatedly return body swapped and I’m still resyncing with my body and having to deal with my body… and it’s been really bumming me out because it hardly… cause I was unable to get a satisfying relationship in this universe and then it’s jealous of me because while I was swapped in Sonichu’s body, I literally had sex with Magichan, Cryzel, Sylvana, even Mewtwo. So there’s all that and now it’s given me a bit of a pain in the heart like as if I’ve gotten a broken heart all over again and it’s affecting me in the heart and Solar Plexus chakra as well".

KwaiiSandbag: I know it's a little hard right now because of Covid... but have you tried going out into the world and trying to find a relationship?

Chris: Yeah, I don’t have much time to look for a new relationship… since we have everything going on with the merge going on so… unless something fated happens in the near future amongst my local friends who actually I will be seeing again in the near future... Unless that happens then… more likely Magichan will be coming here and becoming fully physical. He'll be coming here to this universe - and I've been guiding him here. My body is fully into this and I'm supporting it obviously because I want him with me as well.

KwaiiSandbag: Yes. Now, tell me about these friends you keep mentioning. I’m very curious.

Chris: Uh… They are our allies at… at this company called Praetor. It's a small business. They've uh… they've been making the medallions on my behalf and we're working on getting the books and even the Shipfic Folder cards for Sonichu up and- up and available and printed and all that.

Lily: Oh wow. That's really cool.

Chris: So business partners and friends with a bit of psyc- with a bit of psychic powers amongst them as well. But as… as my hubby says, uh… it's good to have multiple viewpoints, so it's good to have multiple psychics and we've been trying to get to round up as many psychics in this universe as possible to, uh… help figure these things out on this- on this side of the, uh, dimension rift and all that.

KwaiiSandbag: Mhm. Now, I have- I have a question about your time in C-197.

Chris: Okay.

KwaiiSandbag: Do you have any, uh, notable psychic experiences that happened? I'm- I'm a little bit curious, like, or just any experiences that are noteworthy from C-197.

Chris: Well, even though it was Sonichu's body, I had access to my abilities since I'm just- since I'm essentially the soul. I got the- I got everything within me in general so I was able to manifest that out through Sonichu’s body and hands easily enough. So I end up over the 10 months and 24 days time giving him a bit of psychic power of his own that he's been able to utilize lately that he's still getting used to and feeling pretty positive about that. So yeah just- I mean, what hasn't happened with the, uh, psychic powers over there with me?


10:52 timestamp

Chris: So yeah… Caleb, you have psychic powers… you’ve obviously put some thought into me and my situations recently – I mean, you could have gotten a glimpse of what’s going on I just confirmed it and told you more so… um from your perspective, what do you see in the near future for satisfying my body's need for cuddling and all that?

KwaiiSandbag: It’s very hazy, I would say, um… it has to be proactive. [...] However I definitely see you getting your needs met. [...]

Chris: Alright well I mean, if you all foresee any other more clear details on that, please let me know...

Call 5

Chris Chan Psychic Chat #5
Stardate 9 March 2021
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Interview with KwaiiSandbag

On the same day that the calls were released, KwaiiSandbag was interviewed over Discord by Anaxis, the owner of the Official CWCki Server, about his interactions with Chris and his manipulation tactics. This interview was released a few days later, along with screenshots of KwaiiSandbag's chats with Chris, on 23 March 2021. KwaiiSandbag's messages are color-coded blue, and Anaxis's messages are color-coded orange.

Contacting Chris

So, when did you first get into contact with Chris, and how?
on february 6th she posted a picture asking for psychic help on instagram. I thought maybe I could do some good by posing as a psychic and nudging her into a normal life.
on february 9th to my surprise she responded to my instagram dm
if you want I can also send screenshots of all discord and insta chats
Sure, that'd be helpful
[KwaiiSandbag sends numerous screenshots]
a friend of mine who also felt bad about chrischan, helped out on 3 of the calls. her name is lily.
I mean this when I say this, I had no foul intentions, I just want chris chan to have as normal as a life as possible, and if there was something that I could do, I think i did it
I see
This is a lot of stuff
yes ik how meticulous the cwcki is when it comes to this stuff
For sure

Influencing Chris

Did you influence Chris to do anything particular during this period in which you were talking?
Did Chris add any lore that you suggested?
Well for starters, I helped get chris back into her body
she kept talking about merlin and how she was born hundreds of years ago.
and i dont fully remember but there was some talk about how she became barbs child
i also tried to make sure that she and barb were going to get the covid vaccine
Yeah, that all lines up with some of the stuff Chris shared over the last few weeks
yeah

KwaiiSandbag's Goals

You said your end goal was to try and help Chris towards a normal life, right?
yes
What were you doing to try and achieve that goal?
try and make it seem like maybe seeing a therapist or saving money might be good and using fake psychic powers to make it like I knew what I was talking about
And did Chris listen to any of your advice on that front?
unfortunately i dont think so, but I think it was my push that helped her stop the sonichu delusion

Ending the Sonichu Roleplay

What did you do that you think ended the Sonichu roleplay?
I just said maybe christine should be in her body for her birthday, and sure enough, she was
she made a public annoucement the next day as well so it lines up
Interesting. Is this in the voice call collection?
yeas
Cool

Chris's Drinking and Smoking Habits

Did Chris share any interesting information with you that was new, or previously unknown to the public? Regarding her life, or merge lore, etc?
She confirmed that she drinks heavily sometimes and has smoked weed before idk if that was confirmed but i asked a question about psychedelics and she said "like weed"
Lol, gotcha
Drinks heavily, huh? Did she specify what kind of drinks? And how often?
like a lot of beers and she said like once every few weeks but like for someone who denounced alcohol in the past that seems like often
For sure
Don't suppose Chris specified the brand?
no she just claimed to have a very high alcohol tolerance and that was that no branding unfortunately
Interesting, okay.

End of KwaiiSandbag's Involvement

I'm assuming that you posting all this info means that you and your friend (Lily) are no longer in contact with Chris?
yes she stopped responding last week and unadded lily on discord
What caused the relationship to end?
I have no idea, it just kind of ended. I tried to make another call session and she never responded, and frankly i did not think I could help anymore
And when was that?
march 11th
Gotcha.
Alright, those are all the questions I have for now. I'll listen to the audio recordings.
Thanks for chatting.

Coming Clean

I needed to come clean

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before this officially ends
i dont think what she said is true but here it is

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Confirming the Call Dates

Upon being asked on 21 March, KwaiiSandbag also confirmed the dates that each call took place on.

Interview Screenshots

KwaiiSandbag's DMs with Chris

An excerpt from the Discord DMs.

The Discord DMs center around KwaiiSandbag, Lily and Chris trying to schedule their calls, with KwaiiSandbag getting annoyed at Chris's flakiness at times.

The Instagram DMs show KwaiiSandbag's bait to lure Chris, in the form of a tale on how he acquired psychic powers, which Chris fell for. At the conclusion, KwaiiSandbag admitted he made up his claims to be psychic, and Chris acts like he had known the whole time to save face.

KwaiiSandbag's Chats with Chris

Interview with Lily

On 26 March 2021, Anaxis interviewed Lily, the person who participated in the last 3 calls, and was part of the group chat with KwaiiSandbag and Chris, about their involvement in the affair. This interview would be released a few days later, on 29 March. Lily's messages are color-coded magenta, and Anaxis's are color-coded orange.

Lily's Role

What was your role when talking to Chris? Who or what did you present yourself as?
My role was essentially sandbag’s “psychic understudy” of sorts
His apprentice I guess, I presented myself as if I had recently discovered my innate psychic powers but was inexperienced with them

Coordination (or lack thereof)

Did you and Sandbag ever coordinate what you were going to say to or talk with Chris about before beginning your calls?
Not really, we kind of just winged it. Sometimes I would text him to see if I could/should ask something, and we had a couple things to ask/“psychic” stunts to pull that never came to fruition

Lily's Aims

What were your personal aims in talking to Chris? What did you hope to accomplish?
To be honest, it was pure curiosity. I had no ill intentions towards Chris, but I wouldn’t say it was out of wanting to help. I realize now it was probably not the best thing to do, but I don’t really feel guilty about it
I had no idea how bad chris’ mental state was
I hadn’t paid attention to Chris for a few years prior
So you were basically just along for the ride that Sandbag had set up? Because he explicitly stated that he wanted to help Chris.
Essentially yes. I can’t speak for Sandbag’s intentions but there was definitely an element of us just thinking it was kind of funny
Ultimately though I think we did help her get out of the sonichu bs
But it definitely wasn’t just pure wanting to help her on either of our part

How the Relationship Ended

What do you think caused the relationship with Chris to end?
I’m not sure. It might have been us not entirely being prepared for the fifth call, and Chris getting suspicious because of that
I noticed Chris started to become more flakey and unresponsive after she “returned” to her body
Sandbag said that one day, it just "ended" and that Chris unadded you on Discord.
I also noticed Chris started becoming more flakey and unresponsive to us after she “returned” to her body
Yes. We had the fifth call and then a few days later asked to schedule another one
We got no response and then I checked and saw Chris unadded me
Do you think it was because of Chris's suspicion of you guys?
Either that or she got whatever she wanted from us and lost interest
I definitely don’t think Chris knew the whole time. That’s total nonsense
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